Ian Watkins (Lostprophets): Sentenced To 35 Years

[james130]

A high-profile trial alleging rock singer Ian Watkins committed sexual offences, including raping a baby, is due to start on Tuesday.

On Tuesday, jurors will be chosen from a panel of 22 at Cardiff Crown Court.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-25093832

Thoughts?
Is it okay to still listen to their music?

[King Gizzard]

(have listened to start something since) try to block out what he did when I did tbh

the whole thing still feels really, really weird

[james130]

Yeah, I think I feel the same.

I know that 'innocent until proven guilty' should stand but the evidence seems stacked pretty high.
Plus, I haven't read evidence so shocking since the Bulger case tbh.

Still, I find myself listening to their songs sometimes and find myself feeling bad for doing so.
But then one person shouldn't be able to taint the career of five people I guess...

[King Gizzard]

yeah. and the band wouldn't have immediately quit the band if there wasn't something in it, they would have been behind him

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I've stopped listening. I wrote in the "irritate thread" once that I was going through my old cd's, heard their song and remembered what he did. I hate peados with a passion so it's best to stop listening if you don't want to think about it everytime. They made some good tunes but they weren't THAT good.


I still don't understand how you rape a baby, especially a guy that was as great looking as him and could get any woman he wanted. (not saying how you look determines anything). Paedophilia, mental issue 100 %.

[King Gizzard]

It was conspire to wasn't it? He didn't actually do it (don't know)

[james130]

yeah. and the band wouldn't have immediately quit the band if there wasn't something in it, they would have been behind him
Exactly. When they announced the break-up, I think that pretty much sealed the nail in the coffin.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Exactly. When they announced the break-up, I think that pretty much sealed the nail in the coffin.

yup

[james130]

It was conspire to wasn't it? He didn't actually do it (don't know)

"Mr Watkins is accused of two separate counts of baby rape and conspiracy to rape another child.

He is also charged with one count of sexual assault, one of aiding and abetting sexual assault by penetration and conspiracy to sexually assault a child.

In addition he faces 17 counts of making, taking and possessing indecent images and one of possessing extreme pornographic image involving an animal.

He denies all 24 charges."

[King Gizzard]

Jaayyyyysus

[james130]

Jaayyyyysus

Tell me about it :shocked:

[arista]

Is he Guilty
or was he set up

Thats a lot of charges

raping a baby - thats Evil
if he is Guilty.


[This case involves allegations
of sexual abuse of very young children
Judge Justice Royce]


do they have proof?

[Shaun]

What evidence is floating about on tinternet? I know nothing about the case, really. I feel awful for the other bandmates having to ditch this stigma though... will never happen, most likely.

[Verbal]

If there was one or even two charges you could probably make a case for him being innocent, with 24 charges against him there is no way he was not involved on some level. Throw the book at him.

[HD]

I remember when this first came out and H from Steps got a **** load of abuse... :blush2:

[Black Dagger]

He's pleaded guilty...

Disgusted, I used to love his work, Rooftops and Last Train Home are two of my all time favourite songs.

I don't get what goes through people's mind sets to do such things :mad:

[Iceman]

Ex-Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins has pleaded guilty to a number of sex offences, including two counts of attempting to rape an 11-month old baby.

The 36-year-old, from Pontypridd, had been charged with 24 sex offences and the trial began today (November 26) at Cardiff Crown Court. He appeared in court alongside two female co-defendants, who cannot be named for legal reasons.



Watkins denied two counts of raping an 11-month-old baby but admitted two counts of attempting to rape the child. This was accepted by the prosecution.

He also pleaded guilty to conspiracy to rape a child aged under 13, and conspiring to sexually assault a child under the age of 13.

The musician also admitted several charges of possessing indecent photographs of children and two counts of taking indecent photographs of children dating back to 2007 and 2008. Watkins also pleaded guilty to possession of extreme pornography of a person engaged in a sex act with an animal.

He also admitted aiding and abetting one of the female co-defendants sexually assault a child under the age of 13.

The initial charges included two separate counts of raping a baby, as well as conspiracy to rape another child, one count of sexual assault, one of aiding and abetting sexual assault by penetration and conspiracy to sexually assault a child.

The trial started this morning and Watkins initially denied all 24 charges.

After a panel of 22 jurors was picked from a pool of 72, proceedings were adjourned until 12.30pm, and then 2pm.

One of Watkins's co-defendants, a 21-year-old woman, pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting an attempted rape, aiding and abetting rape, two counts of sexually assaulting a child aged under 13 years, taking indecent photographs of children and distributing indecent photographs

His second co-defendant, a 24-year-old woman, pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a child aged under 13 by penetration.

She also pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a child under 13 by touching, conspiracy to rape a child under 13, conspiracy to sexually assault a girl under 13, two counts of indecent photographs of a child and a charge of distributing indecent photographs of children.

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Ughh...just sick

[Verbal]

By Ciaran Jones

Live updates: Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins on trial on sex offence charges
26 Nov 2013 14:33

Live updates from Cardiff Crown Court where the rock singer denies 24 sexual offences, including the rape of a baby and conspiring to rape a child
A court sketch of Ian Watkins in the dock at Cardiff Crown Court A court sketch of Ian Watkins in the dock at Cardiff Crown Court
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The court is now hearing details about the case relating to Ian Watkins that are too graphic to be published.
2.49pm

The court has been hearing how Watkins recorded the attempted rape of a very young child in a hotel room in Shepherds Bush, London, in April 2012. He also filmed himself abusing the child with alongside the child's mother inside a hotel where the band were staying.

Watkins message to child's mother talked of wanting "to cross the line". mother "a summer of incest and child porn" watkins "hell yes baby"

Live updates here http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/live-lostprophets-ian-watkins-trial-6341204

[Livia]

I hope the child's mother is spayed like the dog she is.

[Niamh.]

Raping an 11 month old baby, jesus christ.

[Niamh.]

I hope the child's mother is spayed like the dog she is.

This.

[Iceman]

This is actually so horrific....what a ******

[Verbal]

I was going to say that he should get the death penatly, along with his friends that are involved, but that would be too good for them. I hope they all live until they're 90 and suffer for every single second of it.

[arista]

He admitts doing the baby


Send him away

[Jack_]

There's some weird people about

For anyone that has knowledge of law, I take it the difference between sexual assault and rape is that the latter involves penetration? Also, how come he can be named but the co-defendants are to remain anonymous for 'legal reasons'? Seems a bit unfair. And I read yesterday that jurors can't search the internet for details about the co-defendants, do they not know them by name either?

[Drew.]

Wooh..

[Iceman]

There's some weird people about

For anyone that has knowledge of law, I take it the difference between sexual assault and rape is that the latter involves penetration? Also, how come he can be named but the co-defendants are to remain anonymous for 'legal reasons'? Seems a bit unfair. And I read yesterday that jurors can't search the internet for details about the co-defendants, do they not know them by name either?

I think its because the co-defendants are the Mother(s)?

[Jack_]

405349374253080576

:yuk:

[Niamh.]

I think its because the co-defendants are the Mother(s)?

wow, some people really don't have a chance in this life at all.

[Iceman]

I cant even read anymore it's vile....

[Verbal]

sky news now

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

someboy get "shouting from the rooftops every scream your heart out" of my head

[Verbal]

I didnt realise he had been involved with Fearne Cotton

[Tom4784]

Eurgh, I hate people.

[Verbal]

Live police statement on sky news now

[Lee.]

This is horrific. What the **** is wrong with some people??

The children's mother helped?! I'm absolutely sickened. Hope they all go to jail and have the **** kicked out of them every day.

[arista]

This is horrific. What the **** is wrong with some people??

The children's mother helped?! I'm absolutely sickened. Hope they all go to jail and have the **** kicked out of them every day.


it just gets worse

[Nedusa]

Wtf........He has pleaded guilty to raping an 11 month old baby ????

This man needs help and punishment in equal measure........Can't believe anyone could get any sort of gratification from inflicting such terrible physical abuse/torture on a small Baby...!!!!

I think this man needs to seriously think about Chemical or actual Castration or Incarceration in a secure establishment until he is in his 80's or 90's

[james130]

Hearing the two women are the mothers and were groupie style fans that would do anything to sleep with him, so went along with his sick game. Just speculation but sounds about right. :idc:

[james130]

http://i3.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article6343692.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/ian-watkins-6343692.jpg

Ian Watkins: A committed paedophile who dreamed of 'crossing the line'

Eugh. Disgusting.

[Nedusa]

http://i3.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article6343692.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/ian-watkins-6343692.jpg



Eugh. Disgusting.

The only "line" he should be crossing is the firing line in front of his execution squad

[Samuel.]

Absolutely crazy

One of my friends knows one of the mothers, from there it was easy to find her fb page... curiosity got the better of me - even more horrific seeing said child's picture's on her page.

Not a fan of the band, but it does make me wonder what it'd be like having one of my favourite artists committing something as vile as this, and whether I could go on listening to their music...

[T*]

:o

[Marc]

I'm in shock at this.

What sort of person would attempt that? Or even want to?

Creepy mother ****er

[Benjamin]

I have never heard anything about this until now. This is truly horrific. :(

[arista]

I have never heard anything about this until now. This is truly horrific. :(


Many will be chucking his CDs in the Bin ,now


and MP3's Deleted

[Jack_]

Hearing the two women are the mothers and were groupie style fans that would do anything to sleep with him, so went along with his sick game. Just speculation but sounds about right. :idc:

This obsessive infatuation some fans have with their idols is something I think that perhaps needs to be looked into, I mean if people are willing to go along with such abhorrent acts like this in order to please the lead singer of a band they like, then what's to say the impressionable teenage girls that support the likes of One Direction and Bieber won't follow through with their threats of death on those who either dislike said acts, or those who have been associated with them. I mean of course these kind of things are going to be rare occurrences, but still, this celebrity obsessed culture we're living in now has its downfalls. Some fans of artists are truly psychotic, and it would only take a trigger like this to provoke someone with existing serious mental health issues into doing something dangerous.

[james130]

I agree Jack.
I'd also like to pick up on the mental health point. Paedophilia is most definitely a mental health issue and (bare with me on this) is it right to send one away to prison for years upon years and leaving it at that?
I agree that the crimes he has committed are absolutely disgusting and a part of me thinks he should rot in a pit. But there is a small part of me that thinks a Psycho-logic review/rehabilitation would also be beneficial. If not for him but to lawmakers trying to understand what makes someone commit these kind of acts and the general public. It can never take-away the acts he's committed and an extremely long prison sentence would still be essential. But I always think that it is better to attempt to solve an issue than lock it away for a period of time until it gets out again...

[Jack_]

No, you are right. Paedophiles need some kind of rehabilitation, but the problem is I don't really believe you can cure someone of being sexually attracted to children. That's akin to saying you can cure people of being gay, which we all know isn't true. The thing I think is perhaps possible to change is people's likelihood of actually acting on their urges and sexually attacking someone. And that goes for all sex offenders, not just those who abuse children.

You've got to have some mental disorder to actually rape someone IMO, and that worsens if it's a child. I also think the same largely for murder too but that's a different debate.

The problem we have is that people see the word 'paedophile' and start screaming and wailing assuming it's about someone that has actually abused a child, when that's not the case at all. There are plenty of paedophiles that I'm sure wish they could be attracted to adults much like the majority of the population, and would never dream of acting on any of their urges. It's these people I actually feel sorry for, because having to live a life of abstinence because your attraction is perverse must be incredibly difficult to deal with, both physically and emotionally. I think if we had a more open approach to this and encouraged those who felt they had perverse and potentially dangerous attractions to speak out and seek help, we could possibly prevent some actual sex offences on minors from happening, but raising this issue and wanting to discuss it makes you look like a bit of a weirdo and so it's unlikely to ever happen.

[Lee.]

I've just been listening to this on the news again.. He's a perverted bastard for sure, but how can a mother let a depraved animal like that near the most precious thing she'll ever have ? I honestly can't take it in! Sick sick ****s!

[james130]

No, you are right. Paedophiles need some kind of rehabilitation, but the problem is I don't really believe you can cure someone of being sexually attracted to children. That's akin to saying you can cure people of being gay, which we all know isn't true. The thing I think is perhaps possible to change is people's likelihood of actually acting on their urges and sexually attacking someone. And that goes for all sex offenders, not just those who abuse children.

You've got to have some mental disorder to actually rape someone IMO, and that worsens if it's a child. I also think the same largely for murder too but that's a different debate.

The problem we have is that people see the word 'paedophile' and start screaming and wailing assuming it's about someone that has actually abused a child, when that's not the case at all. There are plenty of paedophiles that I'm sure wish they could be attracted to adults much like the majority of the population, and would never dream of acting on any of their urges. It's these people I actually feel sorry for, because having to live a life of abstinence because your attraction is perverse must be incredibly difficult to deal with, both physically and emotionally. I think if we had a more open approach to this and encouraged those who felt they had perverse and potentially dangerous attractions to speak out and seek help, we could possibly prevent some actual sex offences on minors from happening, but raising this issue and wanting to discuss it makes you look like a bit of a weirdo and so it's unlikely to ever happen.

I agree with all of this completely. Like you said, it's similar to homosexuality in the fact that a lot of people can't help their feelings and would much rather be heterosexual. Many lesbians and gay men never act on their emotions for fear of persecution. So it is similar in that sense.

His acts seem incredibly depraved, yet in some countries, this would be considered 'common-place'. Obviously not to such an extent but take for instance the 8 year old who got married to the 61 year old in South Africa. Similarly homosexuality is punishable by death in such countries.

I am not and will never condone what he has done in any sense but it is clear that he has been born with a chemical in-balance in his brain and can we blame him for that?
I'm not sure. I just find the whole debate quite interesting.

What we can blame him for is acting upon that urge. Yet I feel the mothers as facilitators to this are much more to blame.

[Lee.]

I honestly don't give a **** whether it's a mental imbalance or not.. Acting upon it is evil and wrong and they ****ing well know it.

I genuinely wish nothing but badness and despair on him for the rest if his sorry life.

I can't even bring myself to enter into discussion regarding the "mothers"

[Jack_]

The drug-crazed former lead singer with multi-million selling band Lostprophets plotted the abuse with two mothers in a series of text and internet messages in which he spoke of his desire for "a summer of filthy child porn".

On another occasion he described wanting to "cross the line" and to intoxicate one of his victims by blowing crystal-meth smoke into the child's face.

Mr Clee read aloud to the court a series of text and internet messages between Watkins and two female co-defendants.

Watkins and Woman A swapped messages where the frontman spoke of his sick desire to "make him mine" and to "cross the line".

And on March 23, Watkins sent the woman a message saying he wanted a "summer of filthy child porn" and how he wanted to take things "to the next level".

Mr Clee also gave details of a sickening 17-minute video involving Watkins and Woman A.

Mr Clee said camcorder footage was shot in a London hotel room which showed Watkins perform a sex act on the child.

Computer analysts found the footage uploaded to an online storage facility.

Mr Clee said that following this meeting, the pair exchanged emails about how they would not go "easy" on the child next time.

Horrific :yuk:

But you're not gonna believe this...

He also said that a laptop seized from Watkins's home was password protected and was later sent to GCHQ to have it "cracked."

When it eventually was the password was discovered to be "I*******kids."

...is this real life...

[Lee.]

It's just so horrible.. The whole thing! :(
Depravity at it's very worst!

[Scarlett.]

Jesus ****ing Christ, what the actual ****.

[james130]

Also found out that in 2010 he had an 'adultworks' escort profile.
Going under the name of 'Trent', images were uploaded of him giving a man 'oral sex' and 'inserting a baseball bat into his anus.
The images were all leaked online.

Probably should have clocked he was a weird one...

[Jords]

There is just absolute no understanding to it, disgusting.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Instagrram: caitlin_frain
Ian you silly man. I hate not seeing this face on my telly :( I will always be your fan sweetheart! If only you admit it you saved my life with your voice and i will always love you. Once this is all over and you get home(granted it might br 30 years) you can see these messages and realise not everyone hates you xx
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I don't know what I am doing on his instagram and twitter. I suppose I am looking for signs of what evil looks like. I am trying to process it but all that's happening is that I literally was about to throw up my tea and blueberry muffin looking at his face.

[Niamh.]

I agree with all of this completely. Like you said, it's similar to homosexuality in the fact that a lot of people can't help their feelings and would much rather be heterosexual. Many lesbians and gay men never act on their emotions for fear of persecution. So it is similar in that sense.

His acts seem incredibly depraved, yet in some countries, this would be considered 'common-place'. Obviously not to such an extent but take for instance the 8 year old who got married to the 61 year old in South Africa. Similarly homosexuality is punishable by death in such countries.

I am not and will never condone what he has done in any sense but it is clear that he has been born with a chemical in-balance in his brain and can we blame him for that?
I'm not sure. I just find the whole debate quite interesting.

What we can blame him for is acting upon that urge. Yet I feel the mothers as facilitators to this are much more to blame.

It's comparable in the sense that maybe these people can't control who they're attracted to, the major difference between the two is one is having a consenting relationship with another adult and the other is rape and abuse of an unwilling participant.

[Z]

This is just so appalling. I can't believe people were willingly letting him abuse their children!?!?!?

[james130]

This is just so appalling. I can't believe people were willingly letting him abuse their children!?!?!?

Not just letting him, but partaking in incestuous rape also.

[Jake.]

This is beyond horrific, I honestly don't know who to be more shocked by.. Watkins or the mothers. I hope all three rot in hell, if only we had other means of punishment because prison simply isn't enough.

[Josy]

It sickens me that there are people like this in the world.

The police were supposedly told about him a few years ago

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-watkins-ex-girlfriend-warned-cops-2854744

[arista]

It sickens me that there are people like this in the world.

The police were supposedly told about him a few years ago

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-watkins-ex-girlfriend-warned-cops-2854744


Yes some Police need to tell us why they left him alone

[james130]

Apparently the womens names were put on the courts website yesterday and are all over twitter.
I've yet to find them though.

But they need to be named and shamed. The child victims will already have new names no doubt, because of the leak.

[arista]

Apparently the womens names were put on the courts website yesterday and are all over twitter.
I've yet to find them though.

But they need to be named and shamed. The child victims will already have new names no doubt, because of the leak.


do not post them on here
its illegal to do that

[Niamh.]

Apparently the womens names were put on the courts website yesterday and are all over twitter.
I've yet to find them though.

But they need to be named and shamed. The child victims will already have new names no doubt, because of the leak.

and sterlised

[james130]

do not post them on here
its illegal to do that

Obviously I wont. :shocked:

[Z]

In defense of the police, they probably can't do very much if someone's coming in claiming that another person is a paedophile without any proof that they've committed a crime. Still... all the warning signs were there, shocking that this happened.

I've been reading that the rest of Lostprophets decided to call it a day because they couldn't carry on knowing what he did. Bit of a crap situation for them, I know that's not what this thread is about, but still.

[james130]

In defense of the police, they probably can't do very much if someone's coming in claiming that another person is a paedophile without any proof that they've committed a crime. Still... all the warning signs were there, shocking that this happened.

I've been reading that the rest of Lostprophets decided to call the band a day because they couldn't carry on knowing what he did. Bit of a crap situation for them, I know that's not what this thread is about, but still.

Absolutely. Lots of abuse has been heading their way and people need to remember that the other five members of that band are victims too.
They probably thought that they'd always be known as a member of a reasonably good rock band and will now go down in history as being part of 'that paedo band'.
They can't continue to make music and so he has effectively ended the professional careers of five other people and tainted their life's work.

[mizzy25]

I read this yesterday and it sickened me to the bone. I actually cant believe someone is so evil to do that. What I think should happen to paedos is they should all have their dicks ripped off and something should be done to the mothers that helped then they should all be shipped off to somewhere fookin horrible and be left there to die a long slow painful death!

[Jack_]

I read this yesterday and it sickened me to the bone. I actually cant believe someone is so evil to do that. What I think should happen to paedos is they should all have their dicks ripped off and something should be done to the mothers that helped then they should all be shipped off to somewhere fookin horrible and be left there to die a long slow painful death!

:joker: :joker:

[Z]

Absolutely. Lots of abuse has been heading their way and people need to remember that the other five members of that band are victims too.
They probably thought that they'd always be known as a member of a reasonably good rock band and will now go down in history as being part of 'that paedo band'.
They can't continue to make music and so he has effectively ended the professional careers of five other people and tainted their life's work.

I know, I was reading some of the abuse the band was getting on their official Facebook page - people demanding that they turn their profits over to charity... one member of the band is a twisted paedophile, the other five are not as far as we're all aware, and they had nothing to do with his crimes.

[GiRTh]

mcnWEJ_CNyc
Very spooky moment at 15.45. then a close up of Watkins. Its almost like a prophecy.

[Drew.]

jesus, i doubt he was up to anything bad back then though but it's still creepy

[GiRTh]

The close up is just spooky. A very strange cut just at the right moment.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Poor Holly Willoughby. She was in tears on this morning as they discussed this. Like most of us she doesn't understand this. She cried as she asked how does this happen. It must be even more confusing for her as she's probably met him, had dinners with him since he used to date her best friend :yuk:

[Jordan.]

this is too much

http://i.imgur.com/TjZgeuB.png

http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif

[Kazanne]

this is too much

http://i.imgur.com/TjZgeuB.png

http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif

That's bloody awful tbh,that poor guy getting tarnished with this,you just know some people will take this as fact,poor bloke:hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

awww poor H, he'll get a fortune if he sues them, I heard he's been getting tonnes of abuse since that article

[Kazanne]

Not heard much about this until I saw this thread,I have no words,except dirty, deprived, perverted ,bastard,theres 4,that'll do.

[arista]

[Very spooky moment at 15.45. then a close up of Watkins.
Its almost like a prophecy. ]


Yes Girth

[joeysteele]

That's bloody awful tbh,that poor guy getting tarnished with this,you just know some people will take this as fact,poor bloke:hugesmile:

It is really awful Kazanne, in fact I have put people right on this who I heard talking about it.
One of them said, ''that singer from Steps,Ian Watkins'', was the person accused, I pointed out he wasn't and that he was known as Ian 'H' Watkins,usually just 'H' from Steps.

They had until then really believed he was the one being talked about in the press.

It isn't only awful but worrying too, you get daft people who get a snippet of the info and then act on it.

[Black Dagger]

mcnWEJ_CNyc
Very spooky moment at 15.45. then a close up of Watkins. Its almost like a prophecy.

That is eerie. Urgh.

I just can't come to terms with this scenario at all, it's disgusting, I always loved Ian (obviously not now, he's a ****ing monster and can rot in his cell) and his music in my younger teen years and some of the Prophets work are my favourite songs of all time (obviously they are now tainted) such an odd guy, you can never tell with people at all. Sad for the victims involved, and I can't even comprehend the mother's actions, diabolical woman, you are supposed to protect your children.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I saw the H thing a few days ago, I think he's left twitter but not sure if it's because of this.

[Black Dagger]

And yes poor H. Sue the bastards!

[Kazanne]

It is really awful Kazanne, in fact I have put people right on this who I heard talking about it.
One of them said, ''that singer from Steps,Ian Watkins'', was the person accused, I pointed out he wasn't and that he was known as Ian 'H' Watkins,usually just 'H' from Steps.

They had until then really believed he was the one being talked about in the press.

It isn't only awful but worrying too, you get daft people who get a snippet of the info and then act on it.

Agree Joey,it could ruin him and If I was him I'de be suing everyone sullying my name with such filth.Good for you putting those people right,it's posting his picture that has made it worse imo.

[T*]

I feel sick

[Vicky.]

He should be locked up for life

I'm not against castrating disgusting freaks like him either tbh.

[GiRTh]

this is too much

http://i.imgur.com/TjZgeuB.png

http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gifThey've now apologised but this is hilarious. :joker:

[Niamh.]

They've now apologised but this is hilarious. :joker:

ah it's not though, the poor guy that's probably the worst crime to be accused of and you just know some people will probably always think it was him now :/

[Kazanne]

They've now apologised but this is hilarious. :joker:

I'de want more than an apology:hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

mcnWEJ_CNyc
Very spooky moment at 15.45. then a close up of Watkins. Its almost like a prophecy.

creepy :/

[GiRTh]

ah it's not though, the poor guy that's probably the worst crime to be accused of and you just know some people will probably always think it was him now :/
You are 100% right but it made me laugh. Poor 'H'. :joker:

[GiRTh]

Someone posted. 'I hope H is locked up for a long time for his crimes'

How is that not funny? :laugh2:

[Jack_]

this is too much

http://i.imgur.com/TjZgeuB.png

http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif

What shoddy, lazy, piss poor, offensive journalism. The same kind the Mail employs that spell people's names wrong, prints incorrect facts and tags wrong pictures to the wrong people. How do these people have careers?

I hope he sues :joker:

[Kazanne]

Someone posted. 'I hope H is locked up for a long time for his crimes'

How is that not funny? :laugh2:

It would be funny Girth if the crime wasn't so heinous,imagine being tagged with that.

[GiRTh]

It would be funny Girth if the crime wasn't so heinous,imagine being tagged with that.You too are 100% right but it still makes me laugh. Poor H. :laugh3:

[MTVN]

Always did have a funny feeling about that H

[Nedusa]

I wonder if he will get Attacked ,have two blokes jump on his skull and then set have his body set on fire like that other man in Bristol who was also wrongly identified as being a Paedophile .

Newspapers need to check their facts a bit more before destroying some poor innocent persons life...

I hope he sues for millions....!!!

[Z]

Seriously hope H sues them for damages, that's ridiculously bad journalism. Misprints are to be expected but that's horrific, there are thousands of people who now think that bloody H from Steps went on to front a rock band and is a child molester. Like, what? Why are people so thick? Bloody hell.

[King Gizzard]

the amount of stuff he's done/they've done as a band that can now be looked at in a different light is frightening

8ZzgN7efCoE

[Z]

Out of respect for the other members of the band I don't think I want to watch anything that might taint my view of their discography or achievements, I watched the Never Mind The Buzzcocks clip and it weirded me out.

[King Gizzard]

Last Train Home/pretty much most of Start Something (the album) was my one of my favourite songs/albums so it's ****ty that I can't bring myself to listen to it, still fill really weird about it all

[Z]

I think it'll take most fans of their work a long time to be able to listen to their music again. Hopefully in a few years the other guys can reunite and there will be good will and support for them.

[GiRTh]

the amount of stuff he's done/they've done as a band that can now be looked at in a different light is frightening

8ZzgN7efCoEDIdnt know they did this. Loved this tune when it came out.

[T*]

A spokeswoman for the Attorney General's Office said it was a "police matter" but added: "We understand that the names of the co-defendants in the Ian Watkins case were posted online but have now been removed.

"As has been previously reported, the co-defendants were the mothers of the victims."

Detective Chief Inspector Peter Doyle, of South Wales Police, which is investigating the allegations against Watkins, said the force was in "consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service and will take action if appropriate".

On Wednesday, he warned: "There is a very real danger that some of the detail being posted will lead to the identification of victims which will cause a great deal of distress to them and their families."

Earlier this week, the Attorney General brought the first contempt of court proceedings involving the use of social media, after a man tweeted images allegedly showing James Bulger's killer Jon Venables.


Detectives are continuing their investigation into the Welsh rock singer
He was given a 14-month suspended prison sentence by a High Court judge.

A number of people have also been fined for breaking the law on Facebook or Twitter.

Nine people were ordered to pay compensation to the woman raped by footballer Ched Evans after naming her online, while Sally Bercow, the wife of Commons Speaker John Bercow, paid former Tory peer Lord McAlpine £15,000 in damages for a libellous tweet last year.

Ms Geldof, who has written for several newspapers and magazines, presented a number of TV shows and worked as a model, has more than 160,000 followers on Twitter.

Watkins, 36, from Pontypridd, South Wales, pleaded guilty to offences he had previously denied in a last-minute change of plea.

The charges included sexually touching a one-year-old and encouraging a mother to abuse her own child during a webcam chat.

Watkins also admitted possessing and making child abuse images as well as being behind the plot to rape the child.

Meanwhile, former Steps singer Ian H Watkins was said to be "deeply upset" after he was mistaken for the Lostprophets frontman.


He decided to leave Twitter after he was subjected to online abuse, while the entertainment website E! Online accidentally used his picture to illustrate a story about the case involving his namesake.

In a statement, Mr Watkins' lawyer said: "This is an extremely serious and damaging mistake to have made and this matter been referred to our lawyers."

http://news.sky.com/story/1175068/peaches-geldof-may-face-watkins-tweet-probe

[arista]

[Peaches Geldof faces criminal probe
after tweeting names of mothers
who helped Lostprophets paedophile
abuse their babies]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515054/Peaches-Geldof-tweets-names-mothers-helped-Ian-Watkins-abuse-babies.html#ixzz2lxseNj9V

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/28/article-2515054-197C09B200000578-843_634x501.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/28/article-2515054-19B33ABC00000578-883_634x973.jpg

[MTVN]

Stupid woman

[arista]

Stupid woman

who the feck does she think she is?

[Natalie.]

I feel sick reading this, why would their mothers do this? disgusting creatures. I can't believe a mother would do this

[Shaun]

Stupid timing (since the trial is ongoing) but I don't really care that she tweeted their names.

[james130]

the amount of stuff he's done/they've done as a band that can now be looked at in a different light is frightening

8ZzgN7efCoE

I loved this song and the whole album. :bawling:
Very hard to listen to now, even though I feel I should be able to listen to their music without that feeling.
Perhaps someone should leak instrumental versions?

And agreed, the NMTB clip was really creepy.

[GiRTh]

[Peaches Geldof faces criminal probe
after tweeting names of mothers
who helped Lostprophets paedophile
abuse their babies

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/28/article-2515054-19B33ABC00000578-883_634x973.jpgWTF Barack Obama follows Peaches Geldof?. I bet he doesn't.

[Livia]

I feel sick reading this, why would their mothers do this? disgusting creatures. I can't believe a mother would do this

Sadly, I can believe a mother would do this. Seeing some of the stuff just this year on the news, where mothers have beaten and/or starved their children to death endorses the fact that just giving birth doesn't produce some magical, mystical maternal force in every woman. Some people are just evil, and as I said earlier in the thread, I'd like to see these women spayed like dogs. In my mind they've given up forever the right to have a child.

[Shaun]

WTF Barack Obama follows Peaches Geldof?. I bet he doesn't.

His team seem to follow loads of people back... he's following me LOL

[GiRTh]

His team seem to follow loads of people back... he's following me LOLDoes he? :joker:. No wonder US foreign policy is so *****ed up.

[Natalie.]

Sadly, I can believe a mother would do this. Seeing some of the stuff just this year on the news, where mothers have beaten and/or starved their children to death endorses the fact that just giving birth doesn't produce some magical, mystical maternal force in every woman. Some people are just evil, and as I said earlier in the thread, I'd like to see these women spayed like dogs. In my mind they've given up forever the right to have a child.

Yeah that is true, just not something you want to believe I guess.I'd like to see that too

[Shaun]

Does he? :joker:. No wonder US foreign policy is so *****ed up.

My thoughts on Don't Tell the Bride are actually very important :hmph:

[james130]

Yeah, that's how I found out the names after Peaches tweeted them.
But in her defence, they were mistakenly tweeted; and made public knowledge, by the court houses twitter themselves.

The one looks so regular and normal and her facebook is still online with pictures of the poor child.
The other one looks typical 'goth' but still, both so young and you'd never suspect either of such a depraved crime.

[GiRTh]

My thoughts on Don't Tell the Bride are actually very important :hmph::joker:

[Nedusa]

This guy makes Jimmy Savile look almost normal... And that is saying something !!!

[Z]

Just watched the segment from today's This Morning, poor Holly Willoughby was in floods of tears, I'm assuming she must have met Ian Watkins at some stage, maybe multiple times, considering he went out with Fearne Cotton?

[Marsh.]

Bloody hell, did they just do a random google search for that image?

All these so called journalists get away with murder.

[Josy]

Just watched the segment from today's This Morning, poor Holly Willoughby was in floods of tears, I'm assuming she must have met Ian Watkins at some stage, maybe multiple times, considering he went out with Fearne Cotton?

Read earlier that they also dated a couple of times.

[Jordan.]

I don't see what Peaches has done wrong, she's exposed the women & the victim will obviously be given a new family and name anyway so it's not like they're gonna be forever known.

[Z]

Read earlier that they also dated a couple of times.

Aw **** really? No wonder she was in tears! You'd be disgusted if you found out your ex had done something so awful

[GypsyGoth]

I don't see what Peaches has done wrong, she's exposed the women & the victim will obviously be given a new family and name anyway so it's not like they're gonna be forever known.

I think sometimes there is a type of injunction from the courts in revealing the names of witnesses or suspects in certain cases. So anyone tweeting names they shouldn't be are breaking the law. I think that's the case here.

[GiRTh]

Watching This morning now. Poor Holly :hug:

This bloke is telling it straight. This is a real eye opener.

[Marsh.]

Read earlier that they also dated a couple of times.

Wasn't that Fearne Cotton?

[Kizzy]

I saw hollys reaction, I felt the same I just cried and felt so sick.

[Josy]

Wasn't that Fearne Cotton?

Yeah he had a relationship with fearne but some online articles were saying him and holly dated a few times :shrug:

Not sure if true or not...

[Gstar]

This is crazy -just read all the pages-

How could someone be so disgusting? I wish Salman's death threat to Louis Walsh on Ian and the two mothers

[GiRTh]

The Criminologist on This Morning said it was one of the worse cases he's ever seen. Wow. They need to lock this pervert up and throw away the key.

[Shaun]

Is there a video of the This Morning bit?

[GiRTh]

https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/this-morning/28-11-2013

The final segment.

[Z]

I watched the clip on YouTube, just search This Morning 28th November 2013

[GiRTh]

I watched the clip on YouTube, just search This Morning 28th November 2013Thats a better link. You have to trawl thru adverts if you use the itv website.

MZKnrbG2Fsk

[Z]

Thats a better link. You have to trawl thru adverts if you use the itv website.

MZKnrbG2Fsk

Yeah I hate having to use the ITV player, it has an insane number of adverts on it!

[Shaun]

Sounds horrific :( (just watched that)

It's just made me more angry that there are so many fans of the band out there trying to justify it... obviously loads of jokes floating around about it which is fine I guess, bit soon but oh well... but there're loads of "IW is innocent" pages on FB and so on.

[GiRTh]

Yeah I hate having to use the ITV player, it has an insane number of adverts on it!They dont let you use adblock on the itv website anymore. I have to disable it before it plays the vid. Dont like that at all.

[user104658]

Thats a better link. You have to trawl thru adverts if you use the itv website.

MZKnrbG2Fsk

Well done ITV; I've never heard such a load of exploitative drivel in my entire life. Where did they find these "professionals"?

[Z]

Sounds horrific :( (just watched that)

It's just made me more angry that there are so many fans of the band out there trying to justify it... obviously loads of jokes floating around about it which is fine I guess, bit soon but oh well... but there're loads of "IW is innocent" pages on FB and so on.

I know not everyone's the same and usually I'm all for dark humour but I feel like this is just too damn sad and twisted to be joked about :/

[Tom4784]

I have nothing but respect for the people who work in sectors such as prevention and child protection and such, I remember a few years back I wanted to work in Child Protection but I decided against it since I didn't think I could cope with it day in and day out. It takes an extraordinarily strong person to do that line of work.

[Niamh.]

I have nothing but respect for the people who work in sectors such as prevention and child protection and such, I remember a few years back I wanted to work in Child Protection but I decided against it since I didn't think I could cope with it day in and day out. It takes an extraordinarily strong person to do that line of work.

Absolutely, I know I wouldn't have the stomach for it either :(

[smudgie]

Sick bstds.

[GiRTh]

I have nothing but respect for the people who work in sectors such as prevention and child protection and such, I remember a few years back I wanted to work in Child Protection but I decided against it since I didn't think I could cope with it day in and day out. It takes an extraordinarily strong person to do that line of work.I'd love to work in this sector. I find this kind of sick stuff fascinating. Not sure if after doing it for twenty years I'd feel the same; I think seeing so many people suffer as a result of one persons actions may take it toll eventually but I'm always drawn to serial killers and particularly sick criminals.

[user104658]

I have nothing but respect for the people who work in sectors such as prevention and child protection and such, I remember a few years back I wanted to work in Child Protection but I decided against it since I didn't think I could cope with it day in and day out. It takes an extraordinarily strong person to do that line of work.

I'd end up killing someone.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Just watched the segment from today's This Morning, poor Holly Willoughby was in floods of tears, I'm assuming she must have met Ian Watkins at some stage, maybe multiple times, considering he went out with Fearne Cotton?

That's literally what I said as well a page earlier. I hope I can see that interview. I saw the interview yesterday when she asked "how does this happen" she genuinely wanted to find out. Me aswell. Imagine knowing someone for years and then finding out they're capable of this evil and you possibly shared cups, bottle of wines, same toilet...:bawling:

wonder how fearne feels. Maybe this is why they stopped being close.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Just seen that the videos were posted. Didn't load earlier.
I don't see what Peaches has done wrong, she's exposed the women & the victim will obviously be given a new family and name anyway so it's not like they're gonna be forever known.

I think the problem is that they want to protect the victims, (the children). If you know who their mothers are, you know who the children are and who knows, with sickos out there they could have motive for wanting to hurt them further because because of them, their hero is in prison, nevermind what he did. Even if it's not for that reason, victims need protecting for many other reasons.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I have nothing but respect for the people who work in sectors such as prevention and child protection and such, I remember a few years back I wanted to work in Child Protection but I decided against it since I didn't think I could cope with it day in and day out. It takes an extraordinarily strong person to do that line of work.

I imagine. I could not do this.

[Ammi]

I have nothing but respect for the people who work in sectors such as prevention and child protection and such, I remember a few years back I wanted to work in Child Protection but I decided against it since I didn't think I could cope with it day in and day out. It takes an extraordinarily strong person to do that line of work.


..I know, I could never do anything like that and see and hear the things that they do and not feel overcome by it all, it isn't something that everyone could do and also do it well, even in schools you know about stuff that's really quite disturbing/upsetting but it's not an everyday thing, at least you have a balance of all the good stuff with it..but they have to deal with all of the awful things every day....

[arista]

[Police force investigating new leads about
paedophile Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins
after he admitted child sex offences
Police have vowed to carry on
investigating singer Ian Watkins
He admitted two counts of attempted
rape on the baby of a female fan
Police have appealed for anyone
'affected' by Watkins case to
make contact
The force has 'received a number of calls'
as a result of appeal]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515561/Ian-Watkins-child-abuse-appeal-creates-new-leads-police.html#ixzz2m3yZ602M


The Daggers are out

[GiRTh]

Complaint claims police knew of Ian Watkins abuse from December 2008

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-11-27/complaint-claims-police-knew-of-ian-watkins-abuse-from-december-2008/

It looks like the police ignored complaints about Watkin in 2008.

[Stu]

I don't see what Peaches has done wrong, she's exposed the women & the victim will obviously be given a new family and name anyway so it's not like they're gonna be forever known.
Because she comes off as a boisterous suck job trying desperately to act as public vigilant number one for the regrettable number of people who could be bothered to follow her.

I don't have the words to express how I feel about this case. I couldn't make it through that NME report that detailed in full the stuff most of the press held back. I bet there are a lot of people regretting that Last Train Home tattoo, now.

[james130]

HMV has said that it will no longer sell any releases by Lostprophets in light of the Ian Watkins trial.

A spokesperson for the high street retailer, which currently operates 140 stores in the UK, confirmed to NME today (November 28) that it will not sell any of the band's music in stores and online, and that staff have been directed to remove stock from shelves.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/lostprophets/74110#Cp22zuoLqp741zjG.99

Inevitable I suppose.

[Z]

I just feel so sorry for the other members of Lostprophets because a lot of vitriol is being directed at them when not only have they done nothing wrong but now their livelihoods have been destroyed and they have no way of carrying on without him or replacing him because he was their singer. Sucks so much.

[Shaun]

to be fair, there's a lot of grey areas over the concern that it's been quite known-about for a while (as GiRTh said, 2008) and they didn't know anything...

[Z]

to be fair, there's a lot of grey areas over the concern that it's been quite known-about for a while (as GiRTh said, 2008) and they didn't know anything...

I mean I know it's a bit different because bands go on tour and probably spend more time together than people in most other jobs do; but I can't imagine he'd be telling them about his fantasies to rape children or openly doing it in front of them - obviously there was evidence going back to 2008 but does that not all stem from his contact with impressionable female fans? So I don't know, it's of course entirely possible they knew or had an inkling and chose to ignore it, but I don't think they would work with him if they knew he was so depraved. They've not done anything since this first came to light in the form of a police investigation like a year ago so...

[Stu]

They almost certainly had knowledge of some of the darker elements of his sexuality and may have turned a blind eye to his engagements with teenage groupies but when it comes to the more nefarious elements ... paedophiles can be obscenely effective when it comes to masking those aspects of their personality so I would give those band members the benefit of the doubt until fact says otherwise. Their careers are already ruined.

Personality? Pseudo journalist correspondent? Producer? Getting people to set up a new band? Their careers are knackered. They'll be doing HMV within months.

[Black Dagger]

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-12-18/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-sentenced/

He'll be dead within 2.

[Niamh.]

It's not ****ing long enough if you ask me, that animal should never be let out again, putting children and babies in danger

[Ammi]

..I had read the sentence was due and it says that he will have to serve at least two thirds of it as well...so he won't be back out in society for quite a long time...

[Kate!]

It's not ****ing long enough if you ask me, that animal should never be let out again, putting children and babies in danger

[2] throw away the key

[Josy]

Not long enough for the ****

[Niamh.]

[2] throw away the key

Not long enough for the ****

Did you read the article? this bit here

"Paedophile Ian Watkins spoke with a female fan from prison the day after he admitted two counts of attempting to rape a baby along with a string of other child sex abuse offences, and she he was going to issue a statement when he was sentenced saying it had all been "mega lolz."

There's no rehabilitating that. I really believe someone that sick, unremorseful and dangerous to the most innocent and vulnerable of society should never be put back in there again, it's so wrong

[james130]

Sentenced today to 35 years.

[Josy]

Did you read the article? this bit here

"Paedophile Ian Watkins spoke with a female fan from prison the day after he admitted two counts of attempting to rape a baby along with a string of other child sex abuse offences, and she he was going to issue a statement when he was sentenced saying it had all been "mega lolz."

There's no rehabilitating that. I really believe someone that sick, unremorseful and dangerous to the most innocent and vulnerable of society should never be put back in there again, it's so wrong

I agree.

It's clear that he has no remorse at all for his actions or pity for any of his victims and he should be left rotting in prison for the rest of life.

[Vanessa]

:eek:

[Kazanne]

Did you read the article? this bit here

"Paedophile Ian Watkins spoke with a female fan from prison the day after he admitted two counts of attempting to rape a baby along with a string of other child sex abuse offences, and she he was going to issue a statement when he was sentenced saying it had all been "mega lolz."

There's no rehabilitating that. I really believe someone that sick, unremorseful and dangerous to the most innocent and vulnerable of society should never be put back in there again, it's so wrong

I agree Niamh,what a perverted scumbag he is

[AnnieK]

The mothers only got 14 and 16 years....they should have got longer allowing that monster anywhere near the children

[Niamh.]

The mothers only got 14 and 16 years....they should have got longer allowing that monster anywhere near the children

Yep and they should be sterilized as well, disgusting monsters

[Kate!]

I read it Niamh, and he sickens me to my stomach, vile creature.

And the women involved are sick as well, truly monstrous.

[Kyle]

Start something was one of my favourite albums as a young teen.

Now I can't even listen to it anymore cos of that ******. Why couldn't it have been Rod Stewart instead.

[james130]

Think mothers should have got the same sentences.
Not only did they commit those disgusting crimes but also severely breached their duty of care. :idc:

[smudgie]

Start something was one of my favourite albums as a young teen.

Now I can't even listen to it anymore cos of that ******. Why couldn't it have been Rod Stewart instead.

Oi....leave Rod out of it...:hugesmile:


Seriously though, the likes of this scumbag, and the so called mothers, don't deserve to live let alone be released in the future.

[Livia]

The mothers only got 14 and 16 years....they should have got longer allowing that monster anywhere near the children

I really hope they're not segregated from the rest of the inmates. Can you imagine the reception from the other women in there? Sadly though, I suppose they will be separated for their own safety.

[Cherie]

35 years, should have been life really :shrug: he wanted to cross the line, and when he crossed that I assume he would want to cross a different line, no point letting him out.

[arista]

Watkins is still saying he did nothing wrong?


I hope in Jail
he admits he is Guilty


[The former prostitute, 38, said:
'I've always said to the police,
there's hundreds of victims out
there and you're never going
to find them because the mothers are in on it'.]


These Women are as bad as him

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525722/Lostprophets-paedophile-Ian-Watkins-described-child-sex-abuse-crimes-mega-lolz.html#ixzz2nqVMVwBv

[Kazanne]

Start something was one of my favourite albums as a young teen.

Now I can't even listen to it anymore cos of that ******. Why couldn't it have been Rod Stewart instead.

What have you got against Rod the sod SM?:hugesmile:

[Kyle]

What have you got against Rod the sod SM?:hugesmile:

His voice just grates on me lol. Nothing personal :hugesmile:

[Kazanne]

His voice just grates on me lol. Nothing personal :hugesmile:

Fair enough:hugesmile:

[Gstar]

He's gonna get bullied to death in prison lol shame.

[Iceman]

Dirty scumbag, hope he rots

[Z]

More than most murderers get, absolutely the right result, justice has been served. I hope that after some time, his former band mates are able to regroup and continue without him, without facing any backlash; and that the children he victimised are just too young to know what happened to them and are placed with loving families who will bring them up properly. This man has ruined so many lives with his horrible actions and I hope this sentence will allow the lives he affected to move on.

[Shaun]

I dunno, the claims that ex-partners of his went to the police as far back as 2008 (there was one woman on the BBC earlier)? And the band knew nothing? I smell BS.

[Z]

I dunno, the claims that ex-partners of his went to the police as far back as 2008 (there was one woman on the BBC earlier)? And the band knew nothing? I smell BS.

I doubt they knew he was a paedophile. Questionable liaisons with impressionable fans I'm sure they were aware of but I don't know anything about my best friends' online habits, so why would they know about their band mate's?

[Z]

Lol at me acting like I'm a yardstick for all people in the world. You know what I mean though, like you know what your friends get up to when you're around them in person but not when they're in the privacy of their own home.

[Shaun]

True, but I dunno, going to the police and making complaints would've been pretty... out there (as in public, not trippy), I'd have thought.

[Marc]

Good riddance

[Black Dagger]

Leave Rod out!! Baby Jane is a classic.

[Z]

True, but I dunno, going to the police and making complaints would've been pretty... out there (as in public, not trippy), I'd have thought.

Well it would surely be between the police, the person making the claims and the person accused - but if the police weren't taking the claimant seriously, as has been suggested, then Ian Watkins wouldn't have been visited by them so the band wouldn't have known anything about it. He'd have hardly been telling them he was being investigated by the police for allegations about abusing children casually at band practise. I just don't believe they would have known anything more than most of us. They probably knew he slept with fans. I doubt they knew how far it went.

[james130]

So, the sentencing file has been released.
I have to warn you, I had to stop reading as I found it way too disturbing.
Some of you; with a stronger stomach than I, may be interested.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

After the little I managed to read,
I hope he rots.

[Drew.]

Jesus christ, i don't even want to quote any of it it's that bad.

[Vicky.]

So, the sentencing file has been released.
I have to warn you, I had to stop reading as I found it way too disturbing.
Some of you; with a stronger stomach than I, may be interested.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

After the little I managed to read,
I hope he rots.

Am up to page 4 and I honestly feel physically sick

How the **** can anyone do that

[Marsh.]

I suppose it'll be years from now when some of these children are older that we'll here of some more of the victims. Absolutely horrifying.

[smudgie]

Sick bstds

[Jack_]

So, the sentencing file has been released.
I have to warn you, I had to stop reading as I found it way too disturbing.
Some of you; with a stronger stomach than I, may be interested.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

After the little I managed to read,
I hope he rots.

I'm truly disgusted. This is one of the worst parts

You spoke of whoring her out to fat old men who would pay thousands. You went on “she needs to know mummy and daddy don’t love her she is just there to make us cum”. You spoke of torturing her for fun.

Surprised but pleased that this sentence is so long though.

On a separate note however I am a little confused and do have a slight issue with the inclusion of the incidents of him taking some 16 year old girls virginities? What is the crime here...I'm assuming it's abuse of power, right? Because as strange as the description may sound that isn't actually illegal, and having seen this part of the evidence quoted in articles a couple of weeks ago I was getting somewhat irritated at the insinuation that it's on the same level as all the other stuff that involved infants when it definitely isn't. Reminds me a bit of the Jeremy Forrest case where he was labelled a 'paedophile' when it really wasn't fitting for his case

[Marsh.]

Absolutely horrible reading.

They should have gotten life. I don't care if one of the mum's was devastated and remorseful, there's just no excuse.

[Marsh.]

I'm truly disgusted. This is one of the worst parts



Surprised but pleased that this sentence is so long though.

On a separate note however I am a little confused and do have a slight issue with the inclusion of the incidents of him taking some 16 year old girls virginities? What is the crime here...I'm assuming it's abuse of power, right? Because as strange as the description may sound that isn't actually illegal, and having seen this part of the evidence quoted in articles a couple of weeks ago I was getting somewhat irritated at the insinuation that it's on the same level as all the other stuff that involved infants when it definitely isn't. Reminds me a bit of the Jeremy Forrest case where he was labelled a 'paedophile' when it really wasn't fitting for his case

Were those crimes he was sentenced for? I assumed those incidents were just used as evidence for his character, like you say, his love of power.

[Jack_]

Were those crimes he was sentenced for? I assumed those incidents were just used as evidence for his character, like you say, his love of power.

Well they're listed under counts 18 and 19 in that, and then:

In your case Watkins I have to consider the remaining counts in totality. On counts 13, 17, 18, 19, 30 and 31 there will be concurrent sentences of 12 months.

I'm not great at law so I assume that means he was sentenced in part for them? I don't really see a criminal offence with those...the girls consented and were of age

[Marsh.]

I don't know then, very strange. Unless there was more to those situations than what was said, which is unlikely.

Edit - with the second girl he videoed her taking cocaine, so that would be an offence, but then Watkins and the document refers to the first girl as underage. :shrug:

[Shaun]

I felt the life draining from my face when I read that.

[Black Dagger]

So, the sentencing file has been released.
I have to warn you, I had to stop reading as I found it way too disturbing.
Some of you; with a stronger stomach than I, may be interested.

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

After the little I managed to read,
I hope he rots.

I read 4 pages and gave up because I wanted to vomit all over his repulsive face.

[Cherie]

I read 4 pages and gave up because I wanted to vomit all over his repulsive face.

Me too, but in some ways I felt angrier at the Mothers who put their infatuation for him above their babies.

Can anyone explain to me how he was actually caught?

[Black Dagger]

Me too, but in some ways I felt angrier at the Mothers who put their infatuation for him above their babies.

Can anyone explain to me how he was actually caught?

Those women are disgraceful human-beings as well, there is nothing I want more than to be a parent when I'm older and to think that these people have the thought process to do such things to their own children.. disturbing and unforgivable.

[Niamh.]

I didn't get very far into tbh sick ****ing bastard and those "mothers" jesus christ

[Z]

I read that entire document, I've actually gone pale wtf

[arista]

sick Evil mothers as well

[Tom4784]

Ugh, hopefully none of them will last long in prison.

The sentencing report made for harrowing reading, such depravity hardly seems possible. Anyone that's capable of things like that must not have a shred of humanity in them.

[Z]

Thank GOD he was given such a lengthy sentence - total abuse of power, I'm shocked that one of the mothers is a similar age to me (the younger one, she must be 21 or 22 now) - you know right from wrong, how could anyone do that to their own child? How can you carry a baby for nine months, go through child birth and bring up a little baby and then do that to them? This upsets me so much.

[Cherie]

Anybody know how he got caught?

[Niamh.]

Anybody know how he got caught?

No but I would also be interested to know that

[Cherie]

Watkins was only stopped late last year after South Wales Police raided his home on a drugs tip and stumbled upon his hard drives containing images, videos and conversations about him attacking children.

Apparently female fans and his girlfriend had told the police of his obsession with child porn 4 years ago. :conf:

[reece(:]

Ian Watkins 'fan gets tattoo of paedophile's police mugshot and 'mega lolz' slogan'

The image - posted on social media site Reddit today - appears to show the vile child rapist's face and the phrase 'mega lolz'
http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2944300.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Ian-Watkins-tattoo-2944300.jpg

A fan of Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins appears to have had the paedophile's MUGSHOT tattooed on his leg.

The sick image - posted on social media site Reddit today - seemingly shows the vile child rapist's face and the phrase 'mega lolz'.

That was the term Watkins used to describe his evil crimes the day after he admitted a string of child sex offences including the attempted rape of a baby.

The 36-year-old - jailed for 35 years yesterday - phoned a friend from prison and said: "It was like either me go up there and say 'Come on, it wasn't that bad, nobody got hurt'.

"I do my charm or do I end up making things worse for myself or do I just say I was off my head and can't remember?"

"I'm going to put out a statement on the 18th now (the day of his sentencing) just to say it was mega lolz, I don't know what everyone is getting so freaked out about."

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2939274.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Ian-Watkins-centre-of-Lostprophets-performing-in-front-of-Megalolz-banner-2939274.jpg
Slogan: Ian Watkins (centre) of Lostprophets performing in front of Megalolz banner
PA
Lolz stands for "laugh out loud", and the phrase "mega lolz" was used by the Lostprophets on some of their t-shirts.

The group also performed in front of a back-drop saying MEGA LOLZ! on the main stage of the Reading Festival in 2010.

The user posted the image on to the 'cringe pics' section of Reddit - a place for images that 'embarrassment and shame just by looking at them'.

They claimed it was a 'friend of a friend' who had got the tattoo done.

Other users commented on the "utter stupidity" of the inking, while one called for the person to be "named and shamed".



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-watkins-fan-gets-tattoo-2944435#.UrM2hs51PxQ.twitter

[Lee.]

I honestly cannot put into words how I felt reading that report.

[arista]

Watkins was only stopped late last year after South Wales Police raided his home on a drugs tip and stumbled upon his hard drives containing images, videos and conversations about him attacking children.

Apparently female fans and his girlfriend had told the police of his obsession with child porn 4 years ago. :conf:


Who may have thought Junkies talking or something
sadly

[reece(:]

Fans Launch ‘We Support Ian Watkins’ Facebook Page

In a rather incredulous turn, there is apparently a Facebook page for supporters of newly convicted pedophile, ex-Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins. The page currently has 40 likes and launched on December 10th—well past Watkins‘ own guilty pleas to numerous child sex related crimes.
The page—which may very well be an elaborate troll—goes so far as to post messages of support for Watkins, with fans adorning their wrist with logos of “IW Forever”. If the comments are any indication, the site isn’t being well received by the general public.
http://www.theprp.com/2013/12/19/news/fans-launch-we-support-ian-watkins-facebook-page/

:bored::bored::bored:

[Anthonyone]

Yeah, that's how I found out the names after Peaches tweeted them.
But in her defence, they were mistakenly tweeted; and made public knowledge, by the court houses twitter themselves.

The one looks so regular and normal and her facebook is still online with pictures of the poor child.
The other one looks typical 'goth' but still, both so young and you'd never suspect either of such a depraved crime.

Do you have some link?

[MrWong]

Watkins was only stopped late last year after South Wales Police raided his home on a drugs tip and stumbled upon his hard drives containing images, videos and conversations about him attacking children.

Apparently female fans and his girlfriend had told the police of his obsession with child porn 4 years ago. :conf:


The weird and disgusting thing is, she carried on seeing him and having sex with him even after he admitted sexually abusing a 5 year old in the USA.

She claims that she carried on seeing him to 'gather evidence'.

[Z]

How long do we reckon he's going to last in prison? Either he'll kill himself or someone will beat him to it... do not see him lasting in there

[Black Dagger]

I said about 18 months.

[Cherie]

The weird and disgusting thing is, she carried on seeing him and having sex with him even after he admitted sexually abusing a 5 year old in the USA.

She claims that she carried on seeing him to 'gather evidence'.

urgh.

[james130]

How long do we reckon he's going to last in prison? Either he'll kill himself or someone will beat him to it... do not see him lasting in there

It'll be like Brady. He'll be kept separate from other inmates, constant suicide watch and force fed through a tube if they have to.

He doesn't deserve to die. That'd be too kind to him. :idc:

[Z]

It'll be like Brady. He'll be kept separate from other inmates, constant suicide watch and force fed through a tube if they have to.

He doesn't deserve to die. That'd be too kind to him. :idc:

But then plenty of notorious criminals have been stabbed in prison or have committed suicide, prison officers can only do so much for any one individual inmate, they have to be vigilant about all of the inmates, not just one celebrity inmate... I reckon he'll be gone within the year, personally.

[MTVN]

I dunno, plenty of equally monstrous inmates have got by one way or another in there, hard to actually carry out a killing or a suicide and whoever does it has to be prepared to then have another murder charge against them

[Z]

I dunno, plenty of equally monstrous inmates have got by one way or another in there, hard to actually carry out a killing or a suicide and whoever does it has to be prepared to then have another murder charge against them

Most violent offenders wouldn't bat an eyelid at extra years added to their sentence, plus these things tend to be really hushed up within the prison itself; inmates aren't going to grass on each other because they don't want to be attacked too. Paedophiles are the lowest of the low, of course they're going to be targeted. Ian Huntley's been seriously injured several times in prison and nearly managed to commit suicide for example, the guy who murdered those two girls in Soham...

[UserSince2005]

He was held hostages and tortured for 6 hours over the weekend. He was stabbed but it isnt life threatening.

[Cherie]

He was held hostages and tortured for 6 hours over the weekend. He was stabbed but not it isnt life threatening.

prison justice

[Zizu]

He was held hostages and tortured for 6 hours over the weekend. He was stabbed but not it isnt life threatening.


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[Mystic Mock]

He has got to be one of the most foul people to have been in the Music industry.

I get if people still like Lostprophets Music (after all the Music didn't harm anyone) but Ian Watkins the individual needs to be in Prison for the rest of his life.

[joeysteele]

I won't lose a second of sleep concerning myself with this creature.
He will be hated in prison.
Rightly so.

[Zizu]

He has got to be one of the most foul people to have been in the Music industry.

I get if people still like Lostprophets Music (after all the Music didn't harm anyone) but Ian Watkins the individual needs to be in Prison for the rest of his life.


I had all of their music but immediately deleted them all off my PC and threw their CDs out


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