Will a group ever win again?

[Apple202]

Even with this series horrendously low calibre, and with all the pimping that the judges could pile on top of them, Rough Copy flopped out in 4th, similar to Union J the year before them.

Do you think a group can ever win again? Obviously Little Mix were the only group to pull it off, going from 80/1 rank outsiders at the start of the live shows, then surpassing early favourites like Amelia (twice), Janet, Craig, The Risk and Misha to the eventual winners, but will a group ever do it again????

i don't think so

[Niamh.]

I think so, Rough Copy weren't that good tbqh, only the skinny guy could sing and he carried the other two

[Apple202]

no but seriously Little Mix gloating aside I dont know how a group could win it, unless they were truly amazing and not just all hype with little substance, and in a relatively poor series. i think they'd have to be pretty unique too - the first girlgroup to do well definitely helped Little Mix

thinking about it I could imagine a duo winning, not sure about a boyband, think they're destined to come 3rd/4th if they're just another copy of 1D or JLS, dont know about a girlgroup cos they've only got LM to compare to and if they were obviously different then maybe

[Marc]

Yeah; I think bands are pretty popular at the moment. Any OneD type band or funky Littlemix type band would do well, maybe win.

[Niamh.]

no but seriously Little Mix gloating aside I dont know how a group could win it, unless they were truly amazing and not just all hype with little substance, and in a relatively poor series. i think they'd have to be pretty unique too - the first girlgroup to do well definitely helped Little Mix

thinking about it I could imagine a duo winning, not sure about a boyband, think they're destined to come 3rd/4th if they're just another copy of 1D or JLS, dont know about a girlgroup cos they've only got LM to compare to and if they were obviously different then maybe

well, they'd have to be something special, I think in all the years the groups just weren't better then the other acts, a part from Little Mix's year and they won.

[Gstar]

I don't know. They'll have to be pretty amazing to top LM

[Marc]

G4 should have won tbh

[Jordan.]

Not another girl group cause they'll always get compared to LM. A boy group or duo could though I suppose.

[Marc]

A blind and wheelchair double act pls

[Mystic Mock]

No because unless they pull the fan favourite out of the live shows for half the series again they are gonna find it hard to beat them as groups are playing catch up all the way through the lives as they won't sound brilliant in the Audition rounds due to lack of vocal coaching on how to harmonize, and if you're a boyband then not many guys will vote for them so they are doomed before they've even sung.

[Shaun]

2 Up 2 Down pls

[Apple202]

Amelia wasn't the fan favourite tho, that was Janet

[Mystic Mock]

Amelia wasn't the fan favourite tho, that was Janet

Amelia beat Janet in every vote except for 1 when she came back.:joker:

And Amelia was the favourite to win in the bookies until Kelly Rowland removed her.

[reece(:]

If they put together a proper girl group (not one full of rejects that aren't good enough) and market them R&B like Destiny's Child (not faily electro&B/Miss Dynaflop) and make you relate to them I could see them having a shot...

[Apple202]

Amelia beat Janet in every vote except for 1 when she came back.:joker:

And Amelia was the favourite to win in the bookies until Kelly Rowland removed her.

Janet topped the first four weeks, Amelia only managed to top week 6 because it was her comeback, and then week 8 was helped by her falling into bottom two week 7. I doubt amelia would have done as well in the votes as Janet had she been there from week one (and not had all the deramping janet had from the judges/producers)

[Mystic Mock]

Janet topped the first four weeks, Amelia only managed to top week 6 because it was her comeback, and then week 8 was helped by her falling into bottom two week 7. I doubt amelia would have done as well in the votes as Janet had she been there from week one (and not had all the deramping janet had from the judges/producers)

Amelia nearly won the final despite missing half the series, if she was there all the way through she probably would've walked it.

[Apple202]

nearly won the final? she came third and like 10% below marcus and 15 behind little mix :s

[reece(:]

Amelia nearly won the final despite missing half the series, if she was there all the way through she probably would've walked it.
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[Apple202]

it's not even true though, she was nowhere near little mix or even marcus in round 1 of the final

[Jordan.]

Mockinator putting camel202 in his place

[Apple202]

reported http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar16878_18.gif

[Mystic Mock]

nearly won the final? she came third and like 10% below marcus and 15 behind little mix :s

Considering they was in there for much longer that was very poor to not be like 25 to 30% ahead of her, especially considering she got the death slot in the final as they shut the phone lines down after the act has performed.

[Mystic Mock]

Mockinator putting camel202 in his place

It's what I do.:cool::joker:

[Black Dagger]

Janet :lovedup:

And no, I can't see it, the success of Little Mix and One Direction ensures it, girl-groups will be out early again and the boybands can't even come close.

Alex and Sierra will win X Factor US, but over here, their novelty would wear thin and they'd come about 7th.

[Black Dagger]

Even though, Kingsland > 1D. idec.

[Apple202]

no, "poor" is coming bottom two one week after your return with only Biscuit Boy beating you to the bottom

[Mystic Mock]

no, "poor" is coming bottom two one week after your return with only Biscuit Boy beating you to the bottom

The fact that she wasn't bottom despite being on early with a ropey performance showed that she had support unlike Marcus in particular who was on late practically every week, and Little Mix needed every modern song known to mankind just to even stand a chance.:joker:

[Black Dagger]

lets stop arguing and appreciate this.

B0nUwBBrJn8

[Jordan.]

-pRBqrWVVIE

when will little mix tho

[Mystic Mock]

Two types of groups I would like to see on The X Factor though is a Rock Band that are like Oasis, Stereophonics, Linkin Park, or a group like Destiny's Child or TLC.

[reece(:]

-pRBqrWVVIE

when will little mix tho
Clocked, debate over http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar16878_18.gif

[Apple202]

The fact that she wasn't bottom despite being on early with a ropey performance showed that she had support unlike Marcus in particular who was on late practically every week, and Little Mix needed every modern song known to mankind just to even stand a chance.:joker:

Hardly seen as it was even considered ropey, and how could Marcus not have support if he placed above Amelia despite the hype around her return? oh and Little Mix's moment was Don't Let Go so :/

[Apple202]

-pRBqrWVVIE

when will little mix tho

yass, when will little mix get that #2 flash in the pan smash then follow it on with a 'scraping the top 40' second single and a mysterious disappearance of any signs of an album http://a.mod-site.net/s/appl.gif

[reece(:]

yass, when will little mix get that #2 flash in the pan smash then follow it on with a 'scraping the top 40' second single and a mysterious disappearance of any signs of an album http://a.mod-site.net/s/appl.gif
The album is confirmed for Feb 2014, be ready http://a.mod-site.net/s/appl.gif

[Mystic Mock]

Hardly seen as it was even considered ropey, and how could Marcus not have support if he placed above Amelia despite the hype around her return? oh and Little Mix's moment was Don't Let Go so :/

Marcus had a lot of hype as well, he arguably had more than even Little Mix on the show.

[Mystic Mock]

Also girls was less threatened by Little Mix as well as Tulisa marketed them as the "girls next door" while Amelia was seen as the "rough and sexy type of girl" and we all know that the female audience especially the teenage girl audience would not like Amelia for that.

[Jordan.]

yass, when will little mix get that #2 flash in the pan smash then follow it on with a 'scraping the top 40' second single and a mysterious disappearance of any signs of an album http://a.mod-site.net/s/appl.gif

only Amelia making music ahead of it's time http://a.mod-site.net/s/appl.gif

[BBfanUSA]

lets stop arguing and appreciate this.

B0nUwBBrJn8

Alex and Sierra <3

I think a group does have a chance to win the X Factor UK again but they gotta be more unique than anyone else before them.

[Mystic Mock]

Also if we're gonna have boybands we need to have Busted and Blue type of ones, or 5ive lol.

[kresslia]

lets stop arguing and appreciate this.

B0nUwBBrJn8Now there's a group that's going to win the whole thing.

[Jemal]

Union J shudda won last year pls.
Dont @ me

[newsbb]

if theres another worthy group like little mix, sure a group can win again, but as long as we are stuck with rough copys(pun intended).. Never.

[newsbb]

Alex and cierra for example :D

[reece(:]

Union J shudda won last year pls.
Dont @ me
This is so many kinds of wrong.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf Union J was better than half the top 6 lol.

[Apple202]

the top 6 last year (out of those in it) should have gone

1. Ella
2. Rylan (that's how bad it was)
3. Union J
4. Christopher
5. Jahmene
6. James

wait i just realised that's the exact opposite order of what it was :laugh3: maybe that's why i hated it so much

[Brother Leon]

Can't see it. Little Mix were a girl group of normal girls that looked young and weren't over the top sexy/pretty. Tulisa done a good job marketing and pushing them as the girls "that won't steal your boyfriend". They covered many demographics inlcuding the all important young teen girls/older woman vote as a result. Despite the fact they weren't the best group the competition has seen, I Can't see another group where the main threat to them is Marcus Collins(JLS got really unlucky with Alex) or a group that ticks as many boxes as they did in terms of demographics.

Throw in the fact most celeb endorsements were for them and the fact there was the whole "can the group curse end?" hype and everything went well for them. That said...I wouldn't be too shocked if a new boygroup wins at some stage and takes 1Ds thunder.

[bwoty]

Two types of groups I would like to see on The X Factor though is a Rock Band that are like Oasis, Stereophonics, Linkin Park, or a group like Destiny's Child or TLC.

WTF? all 3 bands are very different!

[Vanessa]

It's very hard for groups to win. They'd have to be really special. Like Little Mix, for example. I love them.

[bwoty]

The only reason LM won was because Tulisa made a big campaign about girlbands not doing well on the XF, how they we different (not trying to steal your BF) and the b/s bullying she accused Misha of doing.

There were 2 strong girls that year, LM and Marcus were defiantly not the best 2 and didn't deserve to be in the final!

[reece(:]

Stay pressed bwoty

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[bwoty]

Stay pressed bwoty

http://i.minus.com/jZLZjVRATJU1h.png

I don't even know what that means:conf:

[Apple202]

ugh reece i was going to say that you mess

but anyway yes bwoty it's time for you to leave http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar16878_18.gif

[reece(:]

ugh reece i was going to say that you mess


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[bwoty]

ugh reece i was going to say that you mess

but anyway yes bwoty it's time for you to leave http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar16878_18.gif

Honey all I said is that LM weren't the best in their year and the reason why. If you disagree then say so and back it up. Just telling me to leave shows what a pathetic little girl you are!

I'm done with you :bored:

[Apple202]

I'm not a girl http://nfs.stvfiles.com/imagebase/205/410x230/205435-shelley-smith.jpg

[reece(:]

http://i.minus.com/iblHWZyjbJYl4J.gif

[bwoty]

I'm not a girl http://nfs.stvfiles.com/imagebase/205/410x230/205435-shelley-smith.jpg

Great Photo :spin:

[Mystic Mock]

the top 6 last year (out of those in it) should have gone

1. Ella
2. Rylan (that's how bad it was)
3. Union J
4. Christopher
5. Jahmene
6. James

wait i just realised that's the exact opposite order of what it was :laugh3: maybe that's why i hated it so much

If I'm being serious this is how it should've gone.

1. James
2. Christopher
3. Union J
4. Ella
5. Rylan
6. Jahmene

4th to 6th on my list couldn't sing a note if their lives depended on it.

[bwoty]

http://i.minus.com/iblHWZyjbJYl4J.gif

I'm ok with that :wavey:

[Mystic Mock]

WTF? all 3 bands are very different!

I know, maybe all three types of Rock acts to enter the lives next year, now what a Groups category that would be.

[reece(:]

I'm ok with that :wavey:
</3

[bwoty]

I know, maybe all three types of Rock acts to enter the lives next year, now what a Groups category that would be.

I'd still prefer to see Shell

[Mystic Mock]

Shelley can play the Drums for a band called Cursed Iris, would be a cool Metal Rock band.

[Mystic Mock]

These are group names we need to be hearing on TXF in the future.

1. Cursed Iris
2. Red Stones
3. Blue Darkness
4. Psycho-Pass
5. Immortal Soul
6. Diamond Rose
7. Fuk Yeah
8. Ice Diamonds
9. Darker Than Black
10. The Lights

[Mystic Mock]

These are group names we need to be hearing on TXF in the future.

1. Cursed Iris
2. Red Stones
3. Blue Darkness
4. Psycho-Pass
5. Immortal Soul
6. Diamond Rose
7. Fuk Yeah
8. Ice Diamonds
9. Darker Than Black
10. The Lights

[Apple202]

I'm only here for Diamond Rose and The Lights out of that list