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Nemo123
13-12-2013, 10:02 PM
It's going to be legalised soon. The weight and tone of news reports, including the one I've just seen on Newsnight, convince me it is so. And Great!
We can buy it and be informed about what we're buying.

Z
13-12-2013, 11:02 PM
It wouldn't affect me if it were legalised in my country, never been interested in the stuff.

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 12:13 AM
I'm interested in it. I've had good experiences with it and bad. I don't know what I took in either case. I'd like to take the nice stuff. Therefore I need to know what I'm taking, and that requires regulation.

swinearefine
14-12-2013, 12:28 AM
The largest city in my state (Portland, Maine) actually legalized it a few weeks back, but it it conflicted with state and national law and the police were still going to crackdown on it, and I think it was eventually overturned. But I firmly believe Maine will be the third state to legalize it, as long as the inbreds in my county and other rural areas don't **** things up. We already have really lenient laws compared to other states (You can get away with having 2.5oz on you whereas in nearby Massachusetts you can only have 1oz) and we have a few medical dispensaries. Won't be long.

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 12:32 AM
A nation of brain dead zombies. :laugh:

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 12:37 AM
A nation of brain dead zombies. :laugh:

You know the Nazis weren't brain dead zombies. They were brainwashed zombies, who didn't take weed.

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 12:44 AM
And your point is? :suspect:

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 12:46 AM
And your point is? :suspect:

Maybe you should explain by "A nation of zombies".

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 12:48 AM
Stoned people. Jeez.

Kizzy
14-12-2013, 12:50 AM
It's a half baked idea this legalisation........ boom boom

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 12:54 AM
Stoned people. Jeez.
So are drunk people zombies too?

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 12:56 AM
So are drunk people zombies too?

Yes.

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 01:08 AM
Yes.

Well cool, yeah. I don't disagree. But I'd like the choice to choose between boose and weed, and see which one is more agreable to me.

Josy
14-12-2013, 01:10 AM
Yes fantastic news. Enjoy the massive tax addition on top of the normal price. :)

Josy
14-12-2013, 01:12 AM
A nation of brain dead zombies. :laugh:

We already have a nation of brain dead zombies as it is most people can't even lift their face away from a mobile phone to cross the street.

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 01:12 AM
We already have a nation of brain dead zombies as it is most people can't even lift their face away from a mobile phone to cross the street.

Well exactly Josy, well said.

King Gizzard
14-12-2013, 01:13 AM
Might try a cannabis truffle

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 01:14 AM
Yes fantastic news. Enjoy the massive tax addition on top of the normal price. :)

It would be nice to know what you're buying, whoever you're buying it from. I'm not against a little private enterprise.

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 01:16 AM
Might try a cannabis truffle

I'd eat it rather than smoke it.

swinearefine
14-12-2013, 01:41 AM
A nation of brain dead zombies. :laugh:

Weed makes me smarter actually. Much more enthusiastic, creative, and inquisitive.

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 01:46 AM
http://www.tinygif.com/data/media/19/stoned-ice-cube.gif

swinearefine
14-12-2013, 02:25 AM
speaking of marijuana i'm dry for a few days thus my life is in turmoil but i had a bunch of torched roach paper ends and i found this thing which i thought might be a ball of roach weed, so i smoked it but idk it was like very hard for weed but i was in no position to question it. i think it did something whatever it was but idk what but whateva

mizzy25
14-12-2013, 08:29 AM
I really couldn't care less. I smoked it when I was younger on the odd occasion I also smoked. These days Id rather take care of myself that take drugs. I rarely drink either.

Jesus.
14-12-2013, 08:38 AM
People automatically have a poor opinion of drugs, but I don't think that's necessarily fair. Weed especially. It only has the stereotypical media publicised effects, if that's how you use it.

People have a glass of wine at the end of the day, without anyone telling them that they'll eventually become addicted to turps, yet people who indulge in foliage are either told they're like zombies, or they'll become heroin addicts before the end of the week. It's crazy.

Redway
14-12-2013, 09:53 AM
People automatically have a poor opinion of drugs, but I don't think that's necessarily fair. Weed especially. It only has the stereotypical media publicised effects, if that's how you use it.

People have a glass of wine at the end of the day, without anyone telling them that they'll eventually become addicted to turps, yet people who indulge in foliage are either told they're like zombies, or they'll become heroin addicts before the end of the week. It's crazy.

Absolutely. I also don't like this 'brain-dead zombie' attitude that most ascribe to cannabis users. Certainly when I've had it I was still in complete control and could walk and talk fine. It just turns even the most trivial matters hilarious and everything in general feels so much better.

That can't be said for alcohol, so the anti-weed attitude is hypocritical considering what many will be doing tonight (myself included).

Kizzy
14-12-2013, 12:04 PM
Ok it turns some people into brain dead zombies.... and others into laughing fools.
It doesn't make you smarter either you just think it does, in reality you just babble the same shiz you always have :laugh:

Josy
14-12-2013, 12:16 PM
Ok it turns some people into brain dead zombies.... and others into laughing fools.
It doesn't make you smarter either you just think it does, in reality you just babble the same shiz you always have :laugh:

Well that's not exactly true, it heightens the imagination and so then can be responsible for improving creativity.

Redway
14-12-2013, 12:46 PM
Ok it turns some people into brain dead zombies.... and others into laughing fools.
It doesn't make you smarter either you just think it does, in reality you just babble the same shiz you always have :laugh:

Well, it's one of those things you won't fully understand unless you actually experience it for yourself. I agree with Josy.

Ramsay
14-12-2013, 01:03 PM
It's a widely known and proven fact that injecting marijuanas kills

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Kizzy
14-12-2013, 01:09 PM
Well that's not exactly true, it heightens the imagination and so then can be responsible for improving creativity.

Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music :idc:

swinearefine
14-12-2013, 01:42 PM
Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music :idc:

Please rejoin this thread once you've actually sampled the devil's lettuce.

Ramsay
14-12-2013, 01:44 PM
Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music :idc:

Steady on Kizzy, that's enough LSD for you

Brother Leon
14-12-2013, 01:46 PM
Nothing wrong with it and it isn't addictive either. I decided to give it up simply as I was pleaded to and I did easily lol. Alcohol is a lot more dangerous tbh.

Kizzy
14-12-2013, 01:49 PM
:joker:
It's well known that laudanum was a fave of literary greats but cannabis .... I don't think so.
Should we all start taking opiates to expand our minds?
( this question is not open to stu) ;)

swinearefine
14-12-2013, 02:03 PM
:joker:
It's well known that laudanum was a fave of literary greats but cannabis .... I don't think so.
Should we all start taking opiates to expand our minds?
( this question is not open to stu) ;)

bc weed = opiates. Educate yourself. Maybe if you smoked you'd be more open-minded and informed about drugs. We're all on drugs in one form or another, some are just more beneficial and others harmful. Weed can be fantastic for some people, others hates it. For example my friend and I each have anxiety and it makes hers worse but it alleviates mine and is a much safer alternative to getting addicted to the one class of drugs that actually makes people zombie-like and is one of the few drugs that can kill you from withdrawals, benzodiazepines. I'll stick to my weed as everyone gets on with their caffeine, nicotine, asprin, alcohol, whatever is socially acceptable.

bwoty
14-12-2013, 02:29 PM
I'll stick to a gin and tonic thank you very much

Josy
14-12-2013, 03:16 PM
Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music :idc:

Go read up on some of the most famous authors, song writers and poets in the world, I'm sure you will find the biggest majority of them disagree with you and I would say most of them are what would be described as pretty creative.

Ninastar
14-12-2013, 03:40 PM
I'm one of the very few (it seems) who disagree with it. There's so many side effects...

Cannabis can cause feelings of anxiety, suspicion, panic and paranoia.

For people with illnesses such as schizophrenia, cannabis can cause a serious relapse.

Regular cannabis use is known to be associated with an increase in the risk of later developing psychotic illnesses including schizophrenia; and if you have a family background of mental illness, you may also have an increased risk.

Cannabis can affect the way the brain works. Regular, heavy use makes it difficult to learn and concentrate and research has linked cannabis use to poor exam results.

It can increase the heart rate and affect blood pressure, which can be especially harmful for those with heart disease.

It is reported that frequent use of cannabis may affect fertility. It can cut a man's sperm count and can suppress ovulation in women.

If you’re pregnant, smoking cannabis may increase the risk of your baby being born smaller than expected. (Kinda obvious that one...)

(Just a few up there^^^) and I think it will affect teenagers the worst out of any age group.

I hate to sound patronizing here, lol but I just think there are far more cons than pros

Stu
14-12-2013, 03:52 PM
Meh. Mushrooms are where it's at. I think leisure park type centers should exist where people can go in and enjoy a psychedelic experience. For an added fiver you can get Leo Sayer music in your head man. In your head man. In your head man. In your head man. Man head. Man head. Head man. Language is meaningless.

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 04:29 PM
:laugh: Some people took my comment to heart.

Put the spliff down and lighten up. :laugh:

Marsh.
14-12-2013, 04:31 PM
Go read up on some of the most famous authors, song writers and poets in the world, I'm sure you will find the biggest majority of them disagree with you and I would say most of them are what would be described as pretty creative.

So we're attributing their achievements/creations to weed?

swinearefine
14-12-2013, 09:37 PM
Let's debunk some of those side effects, shall we...

Cannabis can cause feelings of anxiety, suspicion, panic and paranoia.
It certainly can in some people, mostly if they are already experiencing those feelings or are in a negative or frightening environment. Like I said I use it both recreationally but also medicinally as an anxiolytic, and the only times I ever experienced increased anxiety were minimal and fleeting and only happened when I first started smoking. EVERYONE I know uses it to calm them down, aside from one friend with anxiety who I mentioned who says it slightly worsens their anxiety but they smoke it anyway because it doesn't deter from the enjoyable effects. Everyone's different, and if it's not enjoyable to you, don't smoke it, but I've come across very few people who would object to a nice blunt.

For people with illnesses such as schizophrenia, cannabis can cause a serious relapse. Regular cannabis use is known to be associated with an increase in the risk of later developing psychotic illnesses including schizophrenia; and if you have a family background of mental illness, you may also have an increased risk.

This was actually just recently debunked! Check out this link:http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12/10/harvard-marijuana-doesnt-cause-schizophrenia/63148.html

Cannabis can affect the way the brain works. Regular, heavy use makes it difficult to learn and concentrate and research has linked cannabis use to poor exam results.

People with higher IQs are actually more prone to drug use. My friend was actually a straight-A student who was like ranked #8 in our class when she was expelled for possession :crazy: and from personal experience I consistently achieve perfect/near-perfect results on standardized tests and consider myself highly intelligent.

It can increase the heart rate and affect blood pressure, which can be especially harmful for those with heart disease.
If you have heart problems you definitely shouldn't be smoking anything, but there are a number of ways to consume marijuana. As for the weed itself causing heart problems, there is debate and conflicting reports, but like I said earlier, if you're afraid it will harm your heart, do your research and make a judgement call. It of course raises heart rate but not to danger levels.

It is reported that frequent use of cannabis may affect fertility. It can cut a man's sperm count and can suppress ovulation in women.

Like I said, so many benefits.

If you’re pregnant, smoking cannabis may increase the risk of your baby being born smaller than expected. (Kinda obvious that one...)

Smoking anything when you're pregnant can lower birth weight. Try vaporizing or edibles instead, or just not having kids bc wtf there are enough as it is, adopt if you must.

-Signed the Marijuana lobby omg

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 09:42 PM
Great response swinearefine. I've had good and bad experiences with marijuana. Because I was taking hugely different strengths.

Redway
14-12-2013, 09:49 PM
So we're attributing their achievements/creations to weed?

That's not what she said, merely stated the fact that marijuana can enhance creativity, not create it. The two terms are worlds apart. A failing writer obviously won't become a nationally-respected author because he had a joint the night before. It just encourages productivity in those who already have the ability, knowingly or otherwise.

I know it all sounds far-fetched and ridiculous but that's what it is, pretty much.

Nemo123
14-12-2013, 09:58 PM
That's not what she said, merely stated the fact that marijuana can enhance creativity, not create it. The two terms are worlds apart. A failing writer obviously won't become a nationally-respected author because he had a joint the night before. It just encourages productivity in those who already have the ability, knowingly or otherwise.

I know it all sounds far-fetched and ridiculous but that's what it is, pretty much.

I'm a He, but I do agree with you.
I'm just looking to attract intellectual conversation.

Kizzy
15-12-2013, 01:48 AM
Go read up on some of the most famous authors, song writers and poets in the world, I'm sure you will find the biggest majority of them disagree with you and I would say most of them are what would be described as pretty creative.

If you read my last post you'll see I mentioned that some literary giants relied on 'tinctures' to aid them. I doubt any one of these famous creative minds put their success soley down to cannabis though, it has no magical quality that make mundane minds brilliant.

Benjamin
15-12-2013, 01:49 AM
I miss smoking weed :(

Roy Mars III
15-12-2013, 01:52 AM
I am already lazy enough, if I start smoking weed again I don't think i would get anything done

Jesus.
15-12-2013, 10:00 AM
I think we should take Ninastar to Amsterdam for her next birthday.

Ninastar
15-12-2013, 10:03 AM
Let's debunk some of those side effects, shall we...


It certainly can in some people, mostly if they are already experiencing those feelings or are in a negative or frightening environment. Like I said I use it both recreationally but also medicinally as an anxiolytic, and the only times I ever experienced increased anxiety were minimal and fleeting and only happened when I first started smoking. EVERYONE I know uses it to calm them down, aside from one friend with anxiety who I mentioned who says it slightly worsens their anxiety but they smoke it anyway because it doesn't deter from the enjoyable effects. Everyone's different, and if it's not enjoyable to you, don't smoke it, but I've come across very few people who would object to a nice blunt.



This was actually just recently debunked! Check out this link:http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12/10/harvard-marijuana-doesnt-cause-schizophrenia/63148.html



People with higher IQs are actually more prone to drug use. My friend was actually a straight-A student who was like ranked #8 in our class when she was expelled for possession :crazy: and from personal experience I consistently achieve perfect/near-perfect results on standardized tests and consider myself highly intelligent.


If you have heart problems you definitely shouldn't be smoking anything, but there are a number of ways to consume marijuana. As for the weed itself causing heart problems, there is debate and conflicting reports, but like I said earlier, if you're afraid it will harm your heart, do your research and make a judgement call. It of course raises heart rate but not to danger levels.



Like I said, so many benefits.



Smoking anything when you're pregnant can lower birth weight. Try vaporizing or edibles instead, or just not having kids bc wtf there are enough as it is, adopt if you must.

-Signed the Marijuana lobby omg

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

Ninastar
15-12-2013, 10:10 AM
can't wait!!!! im going to have sex with a prostitute

Stu
15-12-2013, 12:22 PM
you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already
Likewise you can copy and paste school journal arguments all you like but it's not exactly a game changer. The benefits of legalization far outweigh the comparatively thin side effects that a very small percentage of users may or may not face.

Lee.
15-12-2013, 01:52 PM
I really don't know how I feel about legalisation... I know I have very negative feelings towards cannabis, but that's just a personal thing. I do think there are a few advantages to it being legalised but I really don't know. :shrug:

Redway
15-12-2013, 02:42 PM
I miss smoking weed :(

Get back to smoking it again then LOL. :tongue:

swinearefine
15-12-2013, 02:52 PM
you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

lmao no it's not. You can be ignorant to the facts all you want, but it's you who is missing out. What makes me really ill is the constant dissemination of prohibition dreck such as this.

EDIT: bee tee dubz thanks for such a well-thought out and thorough answer!

waterhog
15-12-2013, 06:22 PM
It's going to be legalised soon. The weight and tone of news reports, including the one I've just seen on Newsnight, convince me it is so. And Great!
We can buy it and be informed about what we're buying.



and most important - take tax from it and concentrate on the far more dangerous drugs out there.


i hope the legalization in my life time. but i have my reservations.

Ninastar
15-12-2013, 06:39 PM
lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

swinearefine
15-12-2013, 06:55 PM
lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

I believe the term is "propaganda" not "science." And no, not only on TiBB, I think you'll find some intelligence in other places as well.

Lee.
15-12-2013, 06:57 PM
lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

This pisses me off too Caitlin. Putting the science reports to one side, I've seen the negative effects of serious cannabis use. ..

smeagol
15-12-2013, 07:01 PM
they will never ever legalize it. you cant even drink smoke or fart these days. you think anybody is going to legalize that . no chance

fingers
15-12-2013, 07:05 PM
they will never ever legalize it. you cant even drink smoke or fart these days. you think anybody is going to legalize that . no chance

smeagol not speak with forked tongue!:cat:

Ninastar
15-12-2013, 07:17 PM
This pisses me off too Caitlin. Putting the science reports to one side, I've seen the negative effects of serious cannabis use. ..

So have i.. I've known a number of people to say that is messed with their minds.

smeagol
15-12-2013, 08:27 PM
smeagol not speak with forked tongue!:cat:

how, smeg no speak forked tongue
we smoke peace pipe now talk of buffalo and little big bum who ride with wind in hair and dances with chickens and wolves

GypsyGoth
15-12-2013, 10:45 PM
you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

:worship:


It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

Z
15-12-2013, 11:17 PM
The only negative side effect of smoking weed is how much you then have to talk about how you smoke weed

(totally stole this off Smithy)

swinearefine
16-12-2013, 01:48 AM
:worship:


It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.

GypsyGoth
16-12-2013, 03:05 AM
Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.



Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

swinearefine
16-12-2013, 03:38 AM
Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function :rolleyes:

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.

GypsyGoth
16-12-2013, 09:24 PM
Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function :rolleyes:

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.


You mentioned your life experience earlier, meaning it should give your points of view extra value, well perhaps you should treat your grandmother's words the same way, it seems to me like she's pretty wise.

You also mentioned that I'm the one here who has a closed mind, well I beg to differ, I looked and the evidence plus my personal experience before forming my opinion on this subject. It seems to me that you're so gung ho about legalising this, you've ignored any evident that shows your drug in a bad light. I feel if you take off the weed tinted glasses and look at the subject again, you may come to a different conclusion, rather than just looking for evidence that supports your point of view, try look at it freshly from both sides.

Lastly the idea you have about most of the world is smoking marijuana, is wrong, I believe dope smokers, pot heads, stoners are a tiny minority.

Tregard
16-12-2013, 09:50 PM
I've been meaning to try it recently, but I'm not nearly proactive enough to go out and procure some. Should the occasion arise I'll do so then :P

Ninastar
17-12-2013, 11:45 PM
:worship: QUEEN GG

Jords
18-12-2013, 12:02 AM
I think its a bad idea. I have no problem with its use but legalising it will cause more interest in the substance with many becoming dependent paranoid idiots.

Nemo123
18-12-2013, 12:11 AM
I think its a bad idea. I have no problem with its use but legalising it will cause more interest in the substance with many becoming dependent paranoid idiots.

I totally agree.
But the thing about drugs is, it all comes down to subjective opinion. We're all different. What works for you won't necessarily work for me, and vice verse, and we cannot legislate on the basis of our own personal experience. There's no one cure for all.

And, what you take or do with your own body is your own business.

Kizzy
18-12-2013, 12:12 AM
Debunked?.... I would love to know who and how years of scientific study were 'recently debunked'?

Nemo123
18-12-2013, 12:17 AM
Debunked?.... I would love to know who and how years of scientific study were 'recently debunked'?

Explain, please.

Redway
18-12-2013, 12:17 AM
I think its a bad idea. I have no problem with its use but legalising it will cause more interest in the substance with many becoming dependent paranoid idiots.

At the risk of reiterating what's been accounted for a dozen times already, a lot of that paranoia will be as a result of the substance being grown by criminals. The government would ideally regulate it properly and even out the THC content, so the problem actually stems from illegality.

Not to mention the fact that dope clearly isn't for everyone and anecdotal evidence isn't really a useful barometer for measuring the effectiveness of this system. Person user experience differs from person to person and looking at the wider picture gives a clearer idea and chances are marijuana won't cause any mental health issues unless you already have them (in which case you should never have begun).

I just find it hard to justify ruining lives for millions because of a plant when ruining lives is exactly what these rules are meant to protect against. :shrug:

Nemo123
18-12-2013, 12:20 AM
Ideally, people would choose the drugs that best agree with them.
We're all rational beings, so we'd buy the best drug that suited us. We'd be educated, so that we didn't indulge in harmful drugs. Education seems to be the problem.

Redway
18-12-2013, 12:26 AM
Ideally, people would choose the drugs that best agree with them.
We're all rational beings, so we'd buy the best drug that suited us. We'd be educated, so that we didn't indulge in harmful drugs. Education seems to be the problem.

Agree. I certainly wouldn't be wasting time and money on cigarettes if weed were readily available.

Kizzy
18-12-2013, 12:30 AM
The problem begins when you build up a tolerance, what happens when the you no longer feel the nice buzz from the THC content of legal cannabis?

Me. I Am Salman
18-12-2013, 12:33 AM
only give it to people who need it for medical reasons
if you do it for fun then how about you stop trying to be hard and sort your ****ing life out
I don't want more druggies on my street and the absolutely FOUL stench of weed everywhere

Nemo123
18-12-2013, 12:35 AM
Agree. I certainly wouldn't be wasting time and money on cigarettes if weed were readily available.

I wouldn't even smoke weed. I'd eat it in brownies.

Redway
18-12-2013, 12:52 AM
only give it to people who need it for medical reasons
if you do it for fun then how about you stop trying to be hard and sort your ****ing life out
I don't want more druggies on my street and the absolutely FOUL stench of weed everywhere

Don't see who's trying to be hard by wanting to get high, though. No one even suggested it's a form of escapism for addicts, so why aren't you telling people who drink alcohol to get pissed to sort out their lives? They're both fun past-times for many people worldwide and to tell people to 'sort their lives out' because you don't like the smell is ridiculous.

I'd sooner solve the issue of alcoholics out on our streets causing total mayhem than this bizarre, ill-informed view you have of cannabis smokers being morphed-out zombies.

At least the likes of Claudia on this thread can give thorough, well thought-out posts that make me at least understand that point of view (even if I don't fully agree), rather than making sweeping 'oh I can't stand the smell!!' statements.

Nemo123
18-12-2013, 12:59 AM
I endorse you Redway.