View Full Version : East London: Muslim protestors demand restaurants and shops stop selling 'evil' drink
arista
14-12-2013, 05:52 PM
Muslim protestors demand restaurants and shops stop selling 'evil' alcohol warning them they face 40 lashes if they carry on
Dozens of men and women gathered on Brick Lane, East London
Delayed as English Defence League members staged counter-protest
Among protestors was Anjem Choudhary, former leader of Al-Muhajiroun
Organisers said protest was held yesterday to coincide with large numbers of office workers expected to be celebrating Christmas in the area
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html#ixzz2nTLyIZNX
They are having a laugh
Leave the UK or Shut It.
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If that was my Store
I would hire my own Security
and move them well away.
Jesus.
14-12-2013, 05:54 PM
This picture will do a better job of dissuading people to drink than the whole protest.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A16804200000578-831_634x423.jpg
fingers
14-12-2013, 05:58 PM
All these arseholes who don't like living in "decadent" Britain should just piss off to Saudi Arabia or Qatar, I'm sure they'd be much happier there.
AnnieK
14-12-2013, 05:59 PM
This picture will do a better job of dissuading people to drink than the whole protest.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A16804200000578-831_634x423.jpg
I thought exactly that too :laugh:
arista
14-12-2013, 05:59 PM
All these arseholes who don't like living in "decadent" Britain should just piss off to Saudi Arabia or Qatar, I'm sure they'd be much happier there.
Yes
arista
14-12-2013, 06:00 PM
This picture will do a better job of dissuading people to drink than the whole protest.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A16804200000578-831_634x423.jpg
He was near those Nutters
I don't know what they think they'll achieve by doing this. All they're doing is creating bad feelings towards themselves as I'm fairly sure shops and restaurants will not stop selling alcohol!
King Gizzard
14-12-2013, 06:08 PM
Drunk guy looks like he is having a great time
arista
14-12-2013, 06:11 PM
Drunk guy looks like he is having a great time
Yes just another Day to him
But if you had a Drinks Store
you would be angry - as that keeps the Public with Cash
Away.
arista
14-12-2013, 06:15 PM
I don't know what they think they'll achieve by doing this. All they're doing is creating bad feelings towards themselves as I'm fairly sure shops and restaurants will not stop selling alcohol!
East London
gets shoppers with money.
Now if I drove up there
to save some money on gear
and help them stay trading
and I viewed those punks
I would leave.
Do The Math
smudgie
14-12-2013, 06:52 PM
When in Rome......
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
14-12-2013, 06:58 PM
why can't these muslims just be thankful the British have allowed them to stay in their country and stop trying to take over. You're not doing anyone any favors and this will only make things worst. Racism won't stop between whites and muslims but will broaden overall.
Just stop you have enough business you own and control in the uk don't you jeesh :bawling: Can't go anywhere without them owning something but that's not enough :bawling:
arista
14-12-2013, 07:01 PM
why can't these muslims just be thankful the British have allowed them to stay in their country and stop trying to take over. You're not doing anyone any favors and this will only make things worst. Racism won't stop between whites and muslims but will broaden overall.
Just stop you have enough business you own and control in the uk don't you jeesh :bawling: Can't go anywhere without them owning something but that's not enough :bawling:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A1687F900000578-910_634x423.jpg
Many also want Gays
killed
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
14-12-2013, 07:03 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A1687F900000578-910_634x423.jpg
Many also want Gays
killed
I saw a video where a gay guy passed through a muslim area at night and they were like what are you doing here, you're not welcome here, don't come back etc
arista
14-12-2013, 07:05 PM
I saw a video where a gay guy passed through a muslim area at night and they were like what are you doing here, you're not welcome here, don't come back etc
Yes
UKIP get more votes due to this mess.
Nedusa
15-12-2013, 10:42 AM
Muslim protestors demand restaurants and shops stop selling 'evil' alcohol warning them they face 40 lashes if they carry on
Dozens of men and women gathered on Brick Lane, East London
Delayed as English Defence League members staged counter-protest
Among protestors was Anjem Choudhary, former leader of Al-Muhajiroun
Organisers said protest was held yesterday to coincide with large numbers of office workers expected to be celebrating Christmas in the area
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html#ixzz2nTLyIZNX
They are having a laugh
Leave the UK or Shut It.
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A16804200000578-831_634x423.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A16756700000578-785_634x408.jpg
If that was my Store
I would hire my own Security
and move them well away.
Someone shoot these fcuking people.... Shoot them all NOW !!!
arista
15-12-2013, 11:03 AM
Someone shoot these fcuking people.... Shoot them all NOW !!!
It needs to be made illegal
and lock them up for a day.
Jesus.
15-12-2013, 11:06 AM
It needs to be made illegal
and lock them up for a day.
Arista you can't lock people up for protesting. I sometimes wonder whether you are a time traveler, sent forward from the middle ages to make sense of modern day issues.
Wait a minute.. Have they actually got a point? I didn't even consider this! Would our country be a better place if the sale of alcohol became illegal?
Jesus.
15-12-2013, 11:14 AM
Wait a minute.. Have they actually got a point? I didn't even consider this! Would our country be a better place if the sale of alcohol became illegal?
No, because then it would go straight on the black market and make it more dangerous.
fingers
15-12-2013, 11:15 AM
Wait a minute.. Have they actually got a point? I didn't even consider this! Would our country be a better place if the sale of alcohol became illegal?
America tried that, remember, it was called Prohibition. It failed miserably, and America became a much more lawless country as a result.
No, because then it would go straight on the black market and make it more dangerous.
What about just making it illegal to drink in public places?
Cherie
15-12-2013, 11:17 AM
In the UK any group has a right to peaceful protest, I wouldn't like to try doing the reverse of this in the Middle East though. But isn't that part of what makes this Country great? and what people died in World Wars for, freedom of speech?
fingers
15-12-2013, 11:19 AM
What about just making it illegal to drink in public places?
I think it already is, in many parts of the country.
arista
15-12-2013, 11:19 AM
Wait a minute.. Have they actually got a point? I didn't even consider this! Would our country be a better place if the sale of alcohol became illegal?
Yes they may have a Point but Wrong Place to stand outside of
as a Store selling Booze will get no customers
while that mob is there
Jesus.
15-12-2013, 11:22 AM
What about just making it illegal to drink in public places?
Then it would more than likely seriously damage the local economies of most of the big cities in the UK, that rely on people coming in and out of the city.
It would also really affect the communities in villages, and "the local" would disappear. That's a terrible thing to happen in itself.
Yeah, lets ban alcohol and replace it with stoning people to death.
arista
15-12-2013, 01:10 PM
Yeah, lets ban alcohol and replace it with stoning people to death.
Yes the Mob are Crazy
Benjamin
15-12-2013, 01:19 PM
This picture will do a better job of dissuading people to drink than the whole protest.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/14/article-2523658-1A16804200000578-831_634x423.jpg
I thought exactly the same.
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 01:25 PM
All these arseholes who don't like living in "decadent" Britain should just piss off to Saudi Arabia or Qatar, I'm sure they'd be much happier there.
Who is exactly is going to give Brits 40 lashes for drinking in Britain? I'd like to see them try - bunch of controlling idiots.
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 01:33 PM
Arista you can't lock people up for protesting. I sometimes wonder whether you are a time traveler, sent forward from the middle ages to make sense of modern day issues.
You can lock them up for threats of violence though - they can't threaten people in Britain with the whip - it may work in their own countries, but it won't work here.
I cannot abide how so called followers of Islam seek power through manipulation, threats and violence, and they have the gaul to condemn others.
user104658
15-12-2013, 02:22 PM
Dilemma for me here... I personally believe the world would be a better place without alcohol (that is to say, if it just didn't exist, and never existed in the first place.. it's so ingrained now that prohibition would cause all sorts of problems) but then... I also think the world would be a better place without organised religion.
I guess if I was to attend this demonstration, I'd just have to stand in the middle screaming "STOOOOOOOOOPPPPPP", aimlessly into the void. :(
Livia
15-12-2013, 07:07 PM
Yeah, lets ban alcohol and replace it with stoning people to death.
Post of the thread so far.
fingers
15-12-2013, 07:13 PM
Post of the thread so far.
Here's another:
Let's adopt the Saudi practice of beheading people in public!
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 07:18 PM
Why should we adopt to their practices?
If they don't like the laws and way of life in this country then they are as free to leave it as they were to enter it.
LOL at the sign saying Islam is the perfect system for Mankind.
fingers
15-12-2013, 07:23 PM
LOL at the sign saying Islam is the perfect system for Mankind.
Yeah, "oh my, he's a thief - off with his ****ing hand" :conf:
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 07:24 PM
I wish these people would **** off because it always paints a bad picture of a Islam and fuels the stereotypes people believe as seen in this thread
fingers
15-12-2013, 07:26 PM
I wish these people would **** off because it always paints a bad picture of a Islam and fuels the stereotypes people believe as seen in this thread
...and what stereotypes would those be?
Yeah, "oh my, he's a thief - off with his ****ing hand" :conf:
I'd rather Darth Vader pitch up in the House of Commons Tommorow and declare the Galactic Empire were running British affairs than have this country run under the iron fist of Organised Religion.
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 07:26 PM
Someone shoot these fcuking people.... Shoot them all NOW !!!
Medusa running her mouth off as usual.
fingers
15-12-2013, 07:29 PM
I'd rather Darth Vader pitch up in the House of Commons Tommorow and declare the Galactic Empire were running British affairs than have this country run under the iron fist of Organised Religion.
One has to wonder, just who invented religion, and why? It certainly wasn't any of the "Deities" that are being blamed for it.
smeagol
15-12-2013, 07:50 PM
This country is in ruins. deport them
arista
15-12-2013, 08:18 PM
This country is in ruins. deport them
But some of the younger ones may be born in England
so deport them how?
Its was New Labour
who helped them.
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 08:23 PM
I wonder if Smeagol wanted all Christians deported from America when those fundamentalists assassinated abortion doctors
There are wackos in all religion, stop simply targeting one of them
user104658
15-12-2013, 08:25 PM
One has to wonder, just who invented religion, and why? It certainly wasn't any of the "Deities" that are being blamed for it.
It's pretty easy to understand, really. Before there were reasonable explanations available for completely day-to-day phenomena (e.g. the sun, thunder, lightning, sandstorms, tornadoes...) you can see why people believed that there were "powerful beings" behind it; the early gods such as the Egyptian and Greek gods were the only explanations people could come up with, and stories were conjured up and elaborated on over time. Later, it was simplified by some into one "all-powerful" God (in Judaism) which spawned the offshoots of Christianity and later Islam... because, basically, as numbers increase you will ALWAYS start to get people disagreeing and coming up with their own variations, on everything.
As for how it spread, that's fairly simple too. Control. The Romans adopted Christianity because it was taking hold in the region and the old "gods" were being abandonned, and they spread it across Europe (replacing mainly paganism) as they conquered. Later, countries such as Britain and Spain did the same, but globally through colonialism / missionaries.
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 08:27 PM
Oh and the country isn't in ruins so quit with that bull****, I doubt anyone would have even known about this hadn't the Mail reported. I live in East London and I noticed nothing
fingers
15-12-2013, 08:38 PM
It's pretty easy to understand, really. Before there were reasonable explanations available for completely day-to-day phenomena (e.g. the sun, thunder, lightning, sandstorms, tornadoes...) you can see why people believed that there were "powerful beings" behind it; the early gods such as the Egyptian and Greek gods were the only explanations people could come up with, and stories were conjured up and elaborated on over time. Later, it was simplified by some into one "all-powerful" God (in Judaism) which spawned the offshoots of Christianity and later Islam... because, basically, as numbers increase you will ALWAYS start to get people disagreeing and coming up with their own variations, on everything.
As for how it spread, that's fairly simple too. Control. The Romans adopted Christianity because it was taking hold in the region and the old "gods" were being abandonned, and they spread it across Europe (replacing mainly paganism) as they conquered. Later, countries such as Britain and Spain did the same, but globally through colonialism / missionaries.
Religion is the root cause of ALL the evil in the world today, in the past, and will still be the root cause in the future until people realise how they've been hoodwinked for the last 2000 odd yeas
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 08:42 PM
No, crazy extremists are the root of all evil.
Religion can do a lot of good for people. It's the greedy evil people who take religion amongst other things and twist it to their own ends.
Religion is the root cause of ALL the evil in the world today, in the past, and will still be the root cause in the future until people realise how they've been hoodwinked for the last 2000 odd yeas
I wouldn't go quite as far as that Fingers my lad. I think greed and lust for power has a lot to answer for the evils in the world. Religion often gets latched onto cos you can pretty much justify anything you want depending on your interpretation.
arista
15-12-2013, 08:44 PM
Oh and the country isn't in ruins so quit with that bull****, I doubt anyone would have even known about this hadn't the Mail reported. I live in East London and I noticed nothing
Fair Points
But I say its wrong what they did that
on that street as many walked away
from stores they wanted to go to.
Of course not the piss head with the can
just another drunk day for him.
Life In The City.
smeagol
15-12-2013, 08:46 PM
But some of the younger ones may be born in England
so deport them how?
Its was New Labour
who helped them.
five them the option. comply or die
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 08:48 PM
oh dear..
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 08:50 PM
Religion is the root cause of ALL the evil in the world today
are you that simple?
fingers
15-12-2013, 08:51 PM
are you that simple?
No, but by that comment, you must be.
Livia
15-12-2013, 08:51 PM
oh dear..
Sadly, this is the price we pay for free speech, Salman. Some people have no clutch of tact between their half-baked thoughts and their gob.
Livia
15-12-2013, 08:52 PM
Fingers, religion used to be the cause of all the evils. Now it's money and oil.
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 08:53 PM
Preach
fingers
15-12-2013, 08:59 PM
Fingers, religion used to be the cause of all the evils. Now it's money and oil.
Money, Oil and Greed, but most of those greedy bastards will preach at you how deeply religious they are, like going to church every Sunday and getting back to the real business of manufacturing arms on Monday or just invading any oil rich country on any day of the week.
Edit: Sunday, Saturday or Friday and replace Church with any othe name you like!
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 09:00 PM
Money, Oil and Greed, but most of those greedy bastards will preach at you how deeply religious they are, like going to church every Sunday and getting back to the real business of manufacturing arms on Monday or just invading any oil rich country on any day of the week.
And most of those people don't go to church at all or completely twist that religion to suit their own agendas.
The evil doesn't come from that religion, the bastards use it as an excuse.
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 09:01 PM
Money, Oil and Greed, but most of those greedy bastards will preach at you how deeply religious they are, like going to church every Sunday and getting back to the real business of manufacturing arms on Monday or just invading any oil rich country on any day of the week.
that doesn't even make sense
Also your username is seriously creepy please explain it
fingers
15-12-2013, 09:03 PM
that doesn't even make sense
Also your username is seriously creepy please explain it
You'll understand when you get older.
My username is no concern of yours.
Me. I Am Salman
15-12-2013, 09:04 PM
Um I'm probably older than you so
fingers
15-12-2013, 09:06 PM
Um I'm probably older than you so
THAT I seriously doubt!
smeagol
15-12-2013, 09:10 PM
religion is the cause of all evil. its made by men to give a valid excuse to kill eachother in the name of a religion. just look at africa right now its sad.
as for these people there should be no tolerance on that subject. that's not freedom of speech thats trying to force their religion upon us.
There is no freedom of speech anyway its a myth
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 09:11 PM
Again, they latch onto religions as their excuse.
fingers
15-12-2013, 09:13 PM
Again, they latch onto religions as their excuse.
and they've been getting away with it for over 2000 years.
armand.kay
15-12-2013, 09:15 PM
A damn mess. I hate Muslims like this who give the rest of them a bad name. Exactly what do they think they are achieving smh.
I worship not that which you worship,
Nor will you worship that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.
Nor will you worship that which I worship.
To you be your religion, and to me my religion.
fingers
15-12-2013, 09:46 PM
Perhaps Salman could remind us all which country is most zealous in executing (murdering) anyone accused of "blasphemy"?
Nedusa
15-12-2013, 10:23 PM
Medusa running her mouth off as usual.
Firstly.... Who is Medusa
Secondly... Everyone on this thread is pretty much saying the same thing so stop having a go at me....!!!!
Livia
15-12-2013, 10:40 PM
and they've been getting away with it for over 2000 years.
Islam is only about 1400 years old, it's Christianity that's 2000 years old. In Judaism this is the year 5774. So we've been getting away with it the longest. Yay us... Not to be a pedant, or anything...
fingers
15-12-2013, 10:42 PM
Islam is only about 1400 years old, it's Christianity that's 2000 years old. In Judaism this is the year 5774. So we've been getting away with it the longest. Yay us... Not to be a pedant, or anything...
Of course!, Your lot started it all off. :wavey:
Edit: how many of your lot could write 5774 years ago, or read for that matter?
Livia
15-12-2013, 10:53 PM
Of course!, Your lot started it all off. :wavey:
Edit: how many of anyone's lot could write 5774 years ago, or read for that matter?
How many of anyone's lot could read and right 5774 years ago?
fingers
15-12-2013, 10:56 PM
How many of anyone's lot could read and right 5774 years ago?
You edited me!
Livia
15-12-2013, 11:02 PM
You edited me!
I mistakenly started to write my answer in your post. Some Jews still haven't mastered reading and writing apparently.
fingers
15-12-2013, 11:04 PM
I mistakenly started to write my answer in your post. Some Jews still haven't mastered reading and writing apparently.
How many years did you say you'd been at it?
Livia
15-12-2013, 11:05 PM
How many years did you say you'd been at it?
Hey... we can count.
Niall
15-12-2013, 11:25 PM
It irritates me when fanatics of any religion attempt to ram their societal views down the throats of others.
As many problems as alcohol may cause, it's been a part of western culture for thousands of years. People need their vices sometimes, and to snatch that away due to the supposed teachings of some metaphysical being is preposterous.
And if these individuals disliked the liberal availability of alcohol so much, then surely Saudi Arabia with its hardline enforcement of Sharia would be a much more appropriate place for them to live in anyways.
fingers
15-12-2013, 11:46 PM
It irritates me when fanatics of any religion attempt to ram their societal views down the throats of others.
As many problems as alcohol may cause, it's been a part of western culture for thousands of years. People need their vices sometimes, and to snatch that away due to the supposed teachings of some metaphysical being is preposterous.
And if these individuals disliked the liberal availability of alcohol so much, then surely Saudi Arabia with its hardline enforcement of Sharia would be a much more appropriate place for them to live in anyways.
People had been brewing and fermenting, if not distilling, alcohol long before they invented their various Deities,
Nedusa
16-12-2013, 01:45 PM
It needs to be made illegal
and lock them up for a day.
No.......these people are religious fanatics/extremists there is only one way to deal with people like this and that is to send them away from this Country.
If they won't go and want to continue to preach their vile messages of Hatred then I think its time to follow the examples of some of our other European neighbours and just open fire...first with plastic/rubber bullets and if they STILL don't get the message then brake out the live ammo.......
I think a couple of rounds of live ammo and the message will finally hit home....!!!!
sassysocks
21-12-2013, 02:10 PM
It irritates me when fanatics of any religion attempt to ram their societal views down the throats of others.
As many problems as alcohol may cause, it's been a part of western culture for thousands of years. People need their vices sometimes, and to snatch that away due to the supposed teachings of some metaphysical being is preposterous.
And if these individuals disliked the liberal availability of alcohol so much, then surely Saudi Arabia with its hardline enforcement of Sharia would be a much more appropriate place for them to live in anyways.
Exactly - but some just want it all their way. They want to reap the benefits this country has to offer, but attempt to enforce their own religious crap on the rest of us. They think that if they push hard enough we will eventually give in. Well we aren't all scared, naive lefties and they will not get their way.
I can never take it seriously when I hear about Muslims raging over people drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes, having casual sex and taking drugs because I went to school with quite a few Muslim boys who were notorious for doing all of the aforementioned activities and then turning around and condemning other people for doing the same. I've just never taken such rants seriously ever since; people will do these things regardless of what their religion tells them to and anyone pretending otherwise is in denial.
Me. I Am Salman
21-12-2013, 03:27 PM
^You'd be shocked if you came to East London, the Muslims (particularly Bengali people) are even worse. Loads of the girls get their hair out and dye them blonde/brown and wear extensions and slap on so much make up that they don't even look like Muslims, they smoke/are SERIOUSLY bitchy and rowdy/sleep around (with other bengali boys) and they hide it from their parents. There was a muslim girl in my year who got pregnant at 15. And a lot of the boys take drugs and drink
It's not even a new thing my brother left secondary school ten years ago and he says it was the same, he's guilty with getting with a lot of girls himself including someone who was white. It's always been happening in secondary schools a lot of these people start to change once they reach their 20s
I'd say most young people in the UK break fundamental rules of their religion on a regular basis, whether they're Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs... I hate people trying to shove their views down your throats - whether they are religious views; people trying to mob you in the street to donate to charity... all of it annoys me. Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone.
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