View Full Version : Nicole outsings poor Sam, told ya
alex_front2
14-12-2013, 09:54 PM
I said Nicole would steal Sam's limelight in the duet and surprise surprise, she did. She did it last year to Jahmain and snatched the mic to make sure she was heard (James managed to out do her).
Don't get me wrong Nicole has a great vocal (I am shocked she is not as successful as some of the top US stars) but she showed Sam up, plus shehas the looks, charisma and sexiness Sam lacks.
Me. I Am Salman
14-12-2013, 10:14 PM
She stole the show for me, such an underrated singer her voice was always amazing when PCD used to perform live :love:
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but yeah her performance with Sam was mindblowing and gave me the same feeling when Alexandra and Beyonce performed, I truly believe Sam will win now because of that and I want her to as well.
Jordan.
14-12-2013, 10:15 PM
She made crusie ship Sam look weak
reece(:
14-12-2013, 10:23 PM
Nicole effortlessly slays lessors (sorry Sammy B)
mizzy25
14-12-2013, 10:33 PM
Am I the only person that thought Nicole and Sam singing together was horrible? It was like who can scream the loudest. It hurt my ears.
Mystic Mock
14-12-2013, 10:42 PM
Nicole did brilliant, but I felt that the limelight should have been on Sam B but Nicole took it away from her.
Mystic Mock
14-12-2013, 10:55 PM
Sam was really bland tonight for me, even Nicholas's Candy has stuck in my head more than any of Sam Bailey's performances.
Cherie
14-12-2013, 10:56 PM
tbf I thought Sam was great tonight, but Nicholas was pants, I blame Scotland for being tone deaf.
Mystic Mock
14-12-2013, 11:02 PM
Sam B and Nicholas are both really bland and they will flop really hard in the charts, it's two Karaoke singers at the top 2 imo, it's a farce.
Black Dagger
14-12-2013, 11:07 PM
They were both phenomenal together.
GiRTh
14-12-2013, 11:10 PM
Didnt see it but not surprised this happened.
Vicky.
14-12-2013, 11:11 PM
Yeah Nicole was fantastic, made Sam seem really plain for me :/
Vanessa
14-12-2013, 11:13 PM
Liked Luke/Ellie duet a lot. Nick was ok, Sam/Nicole voices don't really go well together.
alex_front2
14-12-2013, 11:16 PM
Nicole made Sam redundant.
Nicole is full package. If Sam was better than Nicole, then the fact that Sam is mumsy not conventionally attractive, unsexy, boringly married sweet but frumpy would not have mattered, but Nicole has looks, personality style sexiness AND is more talented. Why bother with Sam?
Female acts have to really market themselves now eg beyonce's sudden 17 videos, miley's naked wrecking ball, gaga's art pop nonsense. Male artists like jason derulo, pharell williams did less promo and succeeded. How the hell would Sam market herself?
Me. I Am Salman
14-12-2013, 11:17 PM
ap
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242217
Scream
14-12-2013, 11:57 PM
I couldn't even hear Sam in the performance...
joeysteele
15-12-2013, 12:05 AM
Sam was really bland tonight for me, even Nicholas's Candy has stuck in my head more than any of Sam Bailey's performances.
Same here, I wonder where Luke's votes will go now.
I still can see Nicholas winning this somehow.
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 12:13 AM
Same here, I wonder where Luke's votes will go now.
I still can see Nicholas winning this somehow.
Luke's votes won't go anywhere as he was an alternative to bland Sam and Nicholas. The two finalists probably OVERLAP the most. If you like Sam b you probably like Nicholas.
Likewise RC voters wll probably have stopped watching.
joeysteele
15-12-2013, 12:26 AM
Luke's votes won't go anywhere as he was an alternative to bland Sam and Nicholas. The two finalists probably OVERLAP the most. If you like Sam b you probably like Nicholas.
Likewise RC voters wll probably have stopped watching.
You are probably right there, I was voting for Luke and now won't be voting for either of the ones left.
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 12:40 AM
My favs have been RC, luke, miss dynamix and tamera (like hannah but I know she's not going to make it) so last few weeks have been awful.
However the XF audience is a broad ITV1 audience, grans, older mums make a high %. Which is why Sam B, Chris Malone, Steve Brookstein all did well (Sam b fanbase is similar to Malone). No bearing on music buyers who in 2013 liked Pharell, Daft Punk, Miley, Robin Thicke, Rudimental, John Newman and Taylor Swift.
Apple202
15-12-2013, 12:53 AM
she's boring
she can sing and she's good looking but just meh
Apple202
15-12-2013, 12:54 AM
and the whole point of a duo is their meant to perform together as one, nicole was clearly trying to make it about her
Mystic Mock
15-12-2013, 05:48 AM
she's boring
she can sing and she's good looking but just meh
Nicole's looks and singing ablity is why she's better than Sam B.
Nicole to win this X Factor final lol.
Mystic Mock
15-12-2013, 06:01 AM
Good old John Newman.
And I'm the same as Joey and a few others, I will not be voting tomorrow as it's got to be the dullest final 2 ever.
Mystic Mock
15-12-2013, 06:01 AM
Good old John Newman.
And I'm the same as Joey and a few others, I will not be voting tomorrow as it's got to be the dullest final 2 ever.
They should have sang poison
Typical Nicole. Stealing the limelight
Verbal
15-12-2013, 09:05 AM
As I was watching it all I was thinking was, yea this isnt 'A night with Nicole Shirt swinger', luv. Sit the **** down. Egotistical stupid cow.
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 01:02 PM
Typical Nicole. Stealing the limelight
Nope, Nicole was just being nicole showing her ability. Why should she dampen her talent down? The fact is she 100% showed up Sam and Sam's short comings.
Nicole has a vastly superior vocal range and ability plus Nicole oozes sexiness, stage presence and charisma, which Sam lacks. Why bother with Sam? Sam looked like a local kareoke competition winner who got the chance to sing with Nicole. Last year Jahmain was dominated but mic gate and the fact he's a guy so he was not shown up as much and James Arthur held his won. Nicole easily wiped the floor with Sam. :joker:
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 01:09 PM
Nicole did brilliant, but I felt that the limelight should have been on Sam B but Nicole took it away from her.
I totally agree - and it completely put me off Nicole. I find her very attention-seeking despite already being so successful. She was there to support Sam, not to attempt to out-sing her - it was very uncomfortable. With 'friends' like her - who needs enemies. Shame on Nicole and x-factor. I hope it doesn't cost Sam the final.
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 01:11 PM
Nope, Nicole was just being nicole showing her ability. Why should she dampen her talent down? The fact is she 100% showed up Sam and Sam's short comings.
Nicole has a vastly superior vocal range and ability plus Nicole oozes sexiness, stage presence and charisma, which Sam lacks. Why bother with Sam? Sam looked like a local kareoke competition winner who got the chance to sing with Nicole. Last year Jahmain was dominated but mic gate and the fact he's a guy so he was not shown up as much and James Arthur held his won. Nicole easily wiped the floor with Sam. :joker:
Nicole was supposed to be supporting Sam (and Sharon) - not wiping the floor with her. She put herself first, instead of doing her job. Selfish madam.
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 01:13 PM
Agreed. All i could hear was Nicole. :bored:
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 01:27 PM
Nicole was supposed to be supporting Sam (and Sharon) - not wiping the floor with her. She put herself first, instead of doing her job. Selfish madam.
Again, disagree Nicole was just singing. If Sam b was as good as her fans overhyped her she would have more than held her own, she failed totally and to reiterate all Nicole did was show why Sam has no career in the real world. Sam b was just so so, all the best bits came from Nicole.
Sam was like a Buckie Thistle Fc player trying to play for Nicole's Bayern Munich or Paris St Germain.
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 01:28 PM
Again, disagree Nicole was just singing. If Sam b was as good as her fans overhyped her she would have more than held her own, she failed totally and to reiterate all Nicole did was show why Sam has no career in the real world. Sam b was just so so, all the best bits came from Nicole.
Nicole could have pulled back a bit. I could hardly hear Sam at all. :(
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 01:35 PM
Nicole could have pulled back a bit. I could hardly hear Sam at all. :(
but why should she? Sam just isn't as good as people make out. You put Sam next to a world class talent like Nicole and she is totally exposed. All the duets were on paper matched up eg Shane same sort of ability as Nicholas and the other XF contestants held their own. The raw fact is Sam did the worst in the duets. To be a star you actually have to have star quality, against Nicole we ALL saw Sam doesn't have it. :joker:
MeMyselfAndI
15-12-2013, 01:36 PM
I hate that song & all of Dream girls songs, they're all so shouty D:
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 01:36 PM
but why should she? Sam just isn't as good as people make out. You put Sam next to a world class talent like Nicole and she is totally exposed. All the duets were on paper matched up eg Shane same sort of ability as Nicholas and the other XF contestants held their own. The raw fact is Sam did the worst in the duets. To be a star you actually have to have star quality, against Nicole we ALL saw Sam doesn't have it. :joker:
Well, it's a duet. We need to hear Sam as well. Nicole, as a professional, should have allowed Sam to shine. :)
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 01:44 PM
Nicole is a star.... Sam is not.
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 01:46 PM
Nicole is a star.... Sam is not.
Exactly. Why didn't she allow Sam her moment? She just made it about her. I think it's very selfish.
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 01:53 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2523862/Nicole-Scherzinger-steals-limelight-Sam-Bailey-duet-X-Factor-final--suffers-technical-hitch.html
Exactly. Why didn't she allow Sam her moment? She just made it about her. I think it's very selfish.
but what is nicole supppsed to do, put a bag over her head, a muzzle, wear a sack and not move? The simple fact is how do you know Nicole wasn't holding back to let Sam shine. The failure was 100% Sam's fault as she failed. For all we know Nicole might have tried to let Sam shine. :joker:
Sam must not worry though if people critique her performance. Nobody was noticing, her all eyes on Miss Scherzinger!
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 01:55 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2523862/Nicole-Scherzinger-steals-limelight-Sam-Bailey-duet-X-Factor-final--suffers-technical-hitch.html
but what is nicole supppsed to do, put a bag over her head, a muzzle, wear a sack and not move? The simple fact is how do you know Nicole wasn't holding back to let Sam shine. The failure was 100% Sam's fault as she failed. For all we know Nicole might have tried to let Sam shine. :joker:
I don't think their voices go well together and that's another problem.
joeysteele
15-12-2013, 01:56 PM
Exactly. Why didn't she allow Sam her moment? She just made it about her. I think it's very selfish.
I have to agree with you, Ellie and Luke were very much a partnership, Shane knew when to step back and let Nicholas lead but it seemed in the performance with Sam that Nicole and Sam were in a battle for who got the best of each other.
Nicole totally outperformed and outsang Sam,which left Sam seemingly coming across as in a way struggling with the song and peformance by playing catch up almost.
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 01:56 PM
I have to agree with you, Ellie and Luke were very much a partnership, Shane knew when to step back and let Nicholas lead but it seemed in the performance with Sam that Nicole and Sam were in a battle for who got the best of each other.
Nicole totally outperformed and out sang Sam,which left Sam seemingly coming across as in a way struggling with the song and peformance by playing catch up almost.
Exactly. I couldn't hear poor Sam at all. :sad:
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 01:59 PM
Don't worry about Sam, if she loses she will get work as Nicole's backing fourth singer.
erinp5
15-12-2013, 02:00 PM
At the end when Dermot finished speaking to Sam her face is like thunder. I so wish I could do a screenshot of it.
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 02:00 PM
Don't worry about Sam, if she loses she will get work as Nicole's backing fourth singer.
She better win. She's still miles better than nice, but dull Nick. :hugesmile:
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 02:02 PM
At the end when Dermot finished speaking to Sam her face is like thunder. I so wish I could do a screenshot of it.
Don't blame her. I'd be pissed off with Nicole as well. This is just like the Rebecca/Christina Agulera duet. She just made it all about her. :joker:
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 02:08 PM
Why should Sam be angry at Nicole. It's not Nicole's fault she is a better singer and has all other things going for her. SAM should have sung better.
If you are going to take on Nicole you need to give your "A - game".
It's actually ruined Sam's career whether she wins or loses as it's rendered her pointless.
Imagine Sam and Nicole are both finalists and you are a music exec wishing to sign a female diva, who would you sign Nicole or Sam? I think we knowthe answer. Case dismissed. :joker:
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 02:38 PM
Again, disagree Nicole was just singing. If Sam b was as good as her fans overhyped her she would have more than held her own, she failed totally and to reiterate all Nicole did was show why Sam has no career in the real world. Sam b was just so so, all the best bits came from Nicole.
Sam was like a Buckie Thistle Fc player trying to play for Nicole's Bayern Munich or Paris St Germain.
Rubbish - Sam was bound to feel insecure in that situation, she is the unknown contestant on the show, whilst Nicole is one of the judges and so-called star. Nicole was given the biggest part of the song to sing, probably at her insistence, and did not exercise any commonsense in realising that the song was about Sam, not her. Do you think Sharon would have been pleased with the way she made that song her's and not Sam's? It was embarrasing.
We are not all so influenced by a pretty face as others and do not expect all our female singers to look a certain way to be successful.
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 02:44 PM
Nicole is a star.... Sam is not.
It seems Nicole may be more insecure than she appears - with that attention-seeking performance. A fine demonstration of some tarnish appearing on your so-called star. All her 'shamazing' nonsence has become way beyond boring, just like her. Talk about 'over-kill'. She thinks she is x-factor anyway. Give me Simon any day.
alex_front2
15-12-2013, 03:05 PM
Rubbish - Sam was bound to feel insecure in that situation, she is the unknown contestant on the show, whilst Nicole is one of the judges and so-called star. Nicole was given the biggest part of the song to sing, probably at her insistence, and did not exercise any commonsense in realising that the song was about Sam, not her. Do you think Sharon would have been pleased with the way she made that song her's and not Sam's? It was embarrasing.
We are not all so influenced by a pretty face as others and do not expect all our female singers to look a certain way to be successful.
but that's it nicole fault she has the better marketing package and sings better. All eyes and ears were on nicole. Poor Sam. Shown up by a better singer who just happend to be prettier, slimmer and more charismatic. I'd hate her, too.:joker:
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 03:32 PM
but that's it nicole fault she has the better marketing package and sings better. All eyes and ears were on nicole. Poor Sam. Shown up by a better singer who just happend to be prettier, slimmer and more charismatic. I'd hate her, too.:joker:
You really do miss the point don't you. The song should have been about show-casing Sam's voice, not Nicole's. Can't you see how sad that was? I think they made a hugh error as it was incredibly insulting to the viewers and voters of the show - and was just another blatant attempt at selling Nicole. It was not the time or place. I was beginning to go off Nicole a little with all the 'drama's - but that took it one step too far. Sam was and is the bigger person, always will be.
Why are you so obsessed with looks. Nicole has an unfair advantage, she is younger, has no children and has the money to buy the best of everything including beauty treaments. So to keep making comparrisons is ludicrous. Who cares anyway, other than the shallow?
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 03:34 PM
You really do miss the point don't you. The song should have been about show-casing Sam's voice, not Nicole's. Can't you see how sad that was? I think they made a hugh error as it was incredibly insulting to the viewers and voters of the show - and was just another blatant attempt at selling Nicole. It was not the time or place. I was beginning to go off Nicole a little with all the 'drama's - but that took it one step too far. Sam was and is the bigger person, always will be.
Why are you so obsessed with looks. Nicole has an unfair advantage, she is younger, has no children and has the money to buy the best of everything including beauty treaments. So to keep making comparrisons is ludicrous. Who cares anyway, other than the shallow?
They should have got Elton John. That would have been amazing! :love:
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 04:04 PM
I said Nicole would steal Sam's limelight in the duet and surprise surprise, she did. She did it last year to Jahmain and snatched the mic to make sure she was heard (James managed to out do her).
Don't get me wrong Nicole has a great vocal (I am shocked she is not as successful as some of the top US stars) but she showed Sam up, plus shehas the looks, charisma and sexiness Sam lacks.
Her own mic wasn't working, she then shared his. Simple as that really.
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 04:10 PM
but that's it nicole fault she has the better marketing package and sings better. All eyes and ears were on nicole. Poor Sam. Shown up by a better singer who just happend to be prettier, slimmer and more charismatic. I'd hate her, too.:joker:
Just happened to be?
Has nothing to do with her younger age, no kids, money, botox, treatments and procedures, personal trainers, strict diets then?
:laugh2:
Vanessa
15-12-2013, 04:11 PM
Just happened to be?
Has nothing to do with her younger age, no kids, money, botox, treatments and procedures, personal trainers, strict diets then?
:laugh2:
:laugh:
mizzy25
15-12-2013, 04:16 PM
They didn't sing they shouted @ each other.
sassysocks
15-12-2013, 04:32 PM
They should have got Elton John. That would have been amazing! :love:
It would. I was gobsmacked when we discovered Sam was getting Nicole - but was certainly not prepared for the shamble of Nicole letting herdown so badly - and actually competing with her rather than supporting her.
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 04:33 PM
They didn't sing they shouted @ each other.
It's why I've never rated Mariah Carey.
I don't equate volume and screeching with singing.
I can squeal in many different tones but no one wants to buy an album of it. :laugh:
Mystic Mock
15-12-2013, 10:22 PM
Just happened to be?
Has nothing to do with her younger age, no kids, money, botox, treatments and procedures, personal trainers, strict diets then?
:laugh2:
Even if you took that all away from Nicole she would probably still be prettier than Sam B, and I really don't mean to cause offense here as my joint favourite wasn't very pretty either, but let's face it Nicole is a very pretty woman and not many women will compete with Nicole on looks.
Marsh.
15-12-2013, 10:24 PM
Even if you took that all away from Nicole she would probably still be prettier than Sam B, and I really don't mean to cause offense here as my joint favourite wasn't very pretty either, but let's face it Nicole is a very pretty woman and not many women will compete with Nicole on looks.
Beauty is subjective. Not to mention we can't know. Stick Nicole on a council estate without her personal trainers, her diets and LA lifestyle you might end up with an acne ridden witch. Who knows.
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