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the truth
16-12-2013, 11:36 PM
will the beeb back her or drop her?

Livia
16-12-2013, 11:39 PM
Nigella wasn't on trial.

jackc1806
16-12-2013, 11:47 PM
She was on Tv tonight so I guess

the truth
16-12-2013, 11:49 PM
She was on Tv tonight so I guess

be interesting to see if she gets a new series after this cocaine fiasco

MTVN
16-12-2013, 11:50 PM
Yes she is still doing that Nigellisima show or whatever and she was on James Martins Christmas food program so I guess she will be fine, silly cokehead

joeysteele
16-12-2013, 11:53 PM
I find this whole thing a disgrace the way the trial is being reported by the media.

The Sun for instance had the headline at the weekend, 'Nigella gave her children drugs'.
Nigella has already given an account of herself in the trial and that headline was a total disgrace.
It was one of the accused who are on trial for allegedly stealing from her and her husband who said she had done that, it is neither likely truth or proven fact.

I hope Nigella goes from strength to strength in her career and I feel it is shocking that she is the one being plastered all over the front pages and 'not' the 2 miserable people who are the ones actually on trial and the ones 'charged' with offences.

user104658
16-12-2013, 11:56 PM
It's OK, if the BBC drop her, Channel 4 will still take her. Remember Richard Bacon? The Blue Peter presenter who was caught doing lines of cocaine out of a hooker's crack (or something like that)? Channel 4 snapped him up!

Besides, she's worth her weight in gold now. She must have... like... the best special brownies recipe ever.

MTVN
16-12-2013, 11:58 PM
It's OK, if the BBC drop her, Channel 4 will still take her. Remember Richard Bacon? The Blue Peter presenter who was caught doing lines of cocaine out of a hooker's crack (or something like that)? Channel 4 snapped him up!

Besides, she's worth her weight in gold now. She must have... like... the best special brownies recipe ever.

He's been doing BBC radio for years as well, come out the other side quite well

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:01 AM
I find this whole thing a disgrace the way the trial is being reported by the media.

The Sun for instance had the headline at the weekend, 'Nigella gave her children drugs'.
Nigella has already given an account of herself in the trial and that headline was a total disgrace.
It was one of the accused who are on trial for allegedly stealing from her and her husband who said she had done that, it is neither likely truth or proven fact.

I hope Nigella goes from strength to strength in her career and I feel it is a shocking that she is the one being plastered all over the front pages and 'not' the 2 miserable people who are the ones actually on trial and the ones 'charged' with offences.

I 100% disagree
she is a cocaine user and is a disgusting example to the kids and viewers
she tried to cover it up and was it her money they were spending or her husbands?
whats also a disgrace is the bias towards nigella by her employers the bbc, who have hopelessly yet again to be objective , which is supposedly what they claim to be...disgraceful organization displaying yet more double standards and no doubt more cover ups again

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:03 AM
Once again, Nigella was not on trial. She hasn't been found guilty of anything, the accusations have been made against her by people who are on trial for theft. The BBC would find it hard to get rid of her on the say-so of people accused of stealing from her.

Josy
17-12-2013, 12:04 AM
I removed a few posts in here.

Don't accuse other members of trolling for no reason, it's baiting.

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:05 AM
I removed a few posts in here.

Don't accuse other members of trolling for no reason, it's baiting.

she didn't follow the thread with her first post and tried to derail it. I suggest you have a word with livia she does this a lot

michael21
17-12-2013, 12:06 AM
will the beeb back her or drop her?

well that a good question

the way i see it is if bbc parted company with every one that taken drugs or been in some sorts of trouble there be no one on bbc

joeysteele
17-12-2013, 12:06 AM
I 100% disagree
she is a cocaine user and is a disgusting example to the kids and viewers
she tried to cover it up and was it her money they were spending or her husbands?
whats also a disgrace is the bias towards nigella by her employers the bbc, who have hopelessly yet again to be objective , which is supposedly what they claim to be...disgraceful organization displaying yet more double standards and no doubt more cover ups again

Well the Truth this is one of those occasions where you and I will have to unfortunately totally disagree.

As to this issue, Nigella is not on trial,these so called servants are and I hope the right verdict and judgement comes at the end of the trial and that Nigella can get on with her life and career.

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:06 AM
Nigella wasn't on trial.

This was not the question asked. I think this is a reply deliberately designed to derail the topic.

joeysteele
17-12-2013, 12:07 AM
Once again, Nigella was not on trial. She hasn't been found guilty of anything, the accusations have been made against her by people who are on trial for theft. The BBC would find it hard to get rid of her on the say-so of people accused of stealing from her.

Exactly,I 100% agree.

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:08 AM
well that a good question

the way i see it is if bbc parted company with every one that taken drugs or been in some sorts of trouble there be no one on bbc

there is more to this case than that as you surely must be aware....the lies, the cover ups, the kids being involved allegendly, the masses of money? whose money? the husbands? this is a pretty lurid tale. hardly the stuff of a family entertainer paid a fortune by the tax payers

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:09 AM
This was not the question asked. I think this is a reply deliberately designed to derail the topic.

My reply was in answer to you question. She was not on trial. On what grounds would you suggest the BBC try to get rid of her? On the say so of some people accused of stealing from her?

joeysteele
17-12-2013, 12:10 AM
I will still watch her no matter what channel she may be on and I would love to be at one of her dinners,she is the best chef on TV for me.

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:11 AM
My reply was in answer to you question. She was not on trial. On what grounds would you suggest the BBC try to get rid of her? On the say so of some people accused of stealing from her?

Its not just on their say so as you well know

MTVN
17-12-2013, 12:12 AM
Once again, Nigella was not on trial. She hasn't been found guilty of anything, the accusations have been made against her by people who are on trial for theft. The BBC would find it hard to get rid of her on the say-so of people accused of stealing from her.

Well she has also admitted taking cocaine under oath, even if it's not to the extent that the defendants have accused her of

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:12 AM
My reply was in answer to you question. She was not on trial. On what grounds would you suggest the BBC try to get rid of her? On the say so of some people accused of stealing from her?

people have been sacked before who are not on trial....sullied by the vile crimes and misbehaviours. Heck Russell brand was bombed for a crass joke that backfired

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:12 AM
Its not just on their say so as you well know

What evidence are you referring to then?

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:13 AM
Well she has also admitted taking cocaine under oath, even if it's not to the extent that the defendants have accused her of

a fact livia seems to have deliberately ignored? am I allowed to say that moderators as you seem to be protecting livia here?

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:14 AM
What evidence are you referring to then?
don't you know? Im amazed you don't know when you have derailed the thread as though you seem to know all the answers? clearly you dont

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:14 AM
a fact livia seems to have deliberately ignored? am I allowed to say that moderators as you seem to be protecting livia here?

You seem to have a bit of a problem with me. Put me on ignore if I upset you so much.

Alf
17-12-2013, 12:16 AM
I'd imaging most people who work in show business have had a cheeky line or a toke on a spliff at some point.

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:16 AM
Well she has also admitted taking cocaine under oath, even if it's not to the extent that the defendants have accused her of

But she wasn't on trial. If the BBC are going to out everyone who's taken cocaine, the corporation will be half-empty.

joeysteele
17-12-2013, 12:18 AM
I'd imaging most people who work in show business have had a cheeky line or a toke on a spliff at some point.

I would dare bet you are 100% correct in that too.Well said.

fingers
17-12-2013, 12:18 AM
What part of "Nigella Lawson is NOT on trial" is it so bloody difficult to understand?

MTVN
17-12-2013, 12:20 AM
But she wasn't on trial. If the BBC are going to out everyone who's taken cocaine, the corporation will be half-empty.

No but I kinda take the view that if you're going to prosecute two of your most personal attendants for serious fraud then you shouldn't be too surprised when they start airing your dirty laundry in their defence

Just as she is not on trial they are also innocent until proven guilty. She says they've essentially stolen hundreds of thousands of pounds from her, they say she allowed them to spend that to cover up her cocaine addiction. Which of them is telling the truth is not for me to say, it's up to the jury, but they are perfectly entitled to use that in their defence IMO

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:26 AM
No but I kinda take the view that if you're going to prosecute two of your most personal attendants for serious fraud then you shouldn't be too surprised when they start airing your dirty laundry in their defence

Just as she is not on trial they are also innocent until proven guilty. She says they've essentially stolen hundreds of thousands of pounds from her, they say she allowed them to spend that to cover up her cocaine addiction. Which of them is telling the truth is not for me to say, it's up to the jury, but they are perfectly entitled to use that in their defence IMO

You're right. They are perfectly entitled to use that in their defence and if I was their lawyer I'd have advised them to do the same. So long as it's true. But the question is, can Nigella's career survive the drugs affair. My view is, yes, of course... because she is not on trial for taking drugs. And if the BBC - or anyone else - is going to get rid of her because of evidence she gave admitting retrospectively to taking cocaine, then they will probably have a lawsuit on their hands.

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:30 AM
some posters here seem to deliberately ignore the FACT , Lawson admitted to cocaine abuse in the court....there were other allegations too from her husband. she is a cocaine user, employed by the bbc , via tax payers money and generally her shows are family shows.... the question too is to what extent the kids were involved in the drugs? even the under age smoking allegations are bad? lets hope Lawson is grilled under oath on all allegations to see what else she confesses to...her whole sexy cooking on mainstream tv has come across as tacky for a while too...but this cocaine abuse takes it to a lower level....Russell brand and many others have been sacked for much less....heck many big shots have been sacked for being accused of something yet even when found 100% innocent have still lost their jobs. they were all men though so who cares

michael21
17-12-2013, 12:35 AM
there is more to this case than that as you surely must be aware....the lies, the cover ups, the kids being involved allegendly, the masses of money? whose money? the husbands? this is a pretty lurid tale. hardly the stuff of a family entertainer paid a fortune by the tax payers

is she a family entertainer?

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:36 AM
some posters here seem to deliberately ignore the FACT , Lawson admitted to cocaine abuse in the court....there were other allegations too from her husband. she is a cocaine user, employed by the bbc , via tax payers money and generally her shows are family shows.... the question too is to what extent the kids were involved in the drugs? even the under age smoking allegations are bad? lets hope Lawson is grilled under oath on all allegations to see what else she confesses to...her whole sexy cooking on mainstream tv has come across as tacky for a while too...but this cocaine abuse takes it to a lower level....Russell brand and many others have been sacked for much less....heck many big shots have been sacked for being accused of something yet even when found 100% innocent have still lost their jobs. they were all men though so who cares

Who has been sacked after being found 100% not guilty (you can't be found innocent)?

Richard Bacon. He's a man. He admitted to taking cocaine. He's still on telly and doing okay.

MTVN
17-12-2013, 12:36 AM
You're right. They are perfectly entitled to use that in their defence and if I was their lawyer I'd have advised them to do the same. So long as it's true. But the question is, can Nigella's career survive the drugs affair. My view is, yes, of course... because she is not on trial for taking drugs. And if the BBC - or anyone else - is going to get rid of her because of evidence she gave admitting retrospectively to taking cocaine, then they will probably have a lawsuit on their hands.

Yeah I do agree with that, and for the record I'm not too bothered either way about whether she has or not and don't really think she should be dropped the BBC tbh, as you say they would face a lawsuit if they dropped her solely over these allegations

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:40 AM
Yeah I do agree with that, and for the record I'm not too bothered either way about whether she has or not and don't really think she should be dropped the BBC tbh, as you say they would face a lawsuit if they dropped her solely over these allegations
Theyre not allegations, they are fact, she admitted it in court

the truth
17-12-2013, 12:42 AM
brand lost his job at the bbc over a gag that went awry...ross was suspended too
andy gray lost his job for one harmless joke about a female lineswoman?
hardly compares to confessing to cocaine abuse in court amongst other lurid allegations

Livia
17-12-2013, 12:47 AM
brand lost his job at the bbc over a gag that went awry...ross was suspended too
andy gray lost his job for one harmless joke about a female lineswoman?
hardly compares to confessing to cocaine abuse in court amongst other lurid allegations

Those are completely different issues to the drugsissue you raised in the first post. Stick to the topic please, you asked me to and I did.

smudgie
17-12-2013, 01:00 AM
I think it probably will.

She is very popular and very good at her job.
Unless she starts snorting off the worktops I will carry on watching her.:hugesmile:

Z
17-12-2013, 01:01 AM
Would they not just fire her for misconduct if they wanted to? That said, I'm sure another channel would snap her up because of the renewed media interest in her as a personality which has been lagging in recent years so I think in many ways all of this has really just done her career a favour.

BBfanUSA
17-12-2013, 02:21 AM
She's going to be fine, She's on this cooking competition in the US that's like the voice meets taste testing. No one watched the first season but it got a second round. This scandal might get viewers for the show tbh.

I think there's supposed to a brit version with her on it. Not sure.

Shaun
17-12-2013, 02:30 AM
Yes.

A celebrity taking drugs has never stopped me supporting them before and it's not going to in future.

Z
17-12-2013, 02:40 AM
Yes.

A celebrity taking drugs has never stopped me supporting them before and it's not going to in future.

Bet you'd throw the towel in with Len Goodman if it turned out he was addicted to speed

Shaun
17-12-2013, 02:43 AM
I guess, although I was completely fine when Martine McCutcheon told me she was on LSD when filming the Activia adverts.

BBfanUSA
17-12-2013, 03:47 AM
Bet you'd throw the towel in with Len Goodman if it turned out he was addicted to speed

Bet his dealer is Bruno, I swear sometimes Bruno either is on drugs or forgets that he's supposed to be on drugs.

arista
17-12-2013, 07:10 AM
I find this whole thing a disgrace the way the trial is being reported by the media.

The Sun for instance had the headline at the weekend, 'Nigella gave her children drugs'.
Nigella has already given an account of herself in the trial and that headline was a total disgrace.
It was one of the accused who are on trial for allegedly stealing from her and her husband who said she had done that, it is neither likely truth or proven fact.

I hope Nigella goes from strength to strength in her career and I feel it is shocking that she is the one being plastered all over the front pages and 'not' the 2 miserable people who are the ones actually on trial and the ones 'charged' with offences.



They should have never have taken the the workers to Court
She had a USA Contract
and loads of coke to buy

Cherie
17-12-2013, 07:57 AM
It really depends on how the trial ends I guess and who gets vindicated, though I can't imagine the BBC sacking her, her career in the states might take a nose dive though off the back of it. As to whose money it was Nigella is rich in her own right she wasn't living off her domestic abuser husband.

thesheriff443
17-12-2013, 08:17 AM
nigella always gave me the impression she was enjoying her cooking and preparation a little too much!
any moment I was thinking she was going to rub that golden syrup over her ample cleavage, well that's what was happening in my head.

she will be fine, even if she is dropped by the bbc.

Kizzy
17-12-2013, 09:39 AM
Saachi did say he would ruin her if she divorced him?....
Wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't put the sisters up to making the accusations.
Takes the heat of his throat grabbing antics suggesting she sprinkles cocaine on the kids cornflakes doesn't it?

Pete.
17-12-2013, 10:11 AM
Nigella will be fine. The BBC can't afford to lose her because the general feelin from the public is not anger towards her (although that is what the impression that the press give)

arista
17-12-2013, 10:56 AM
Saachi did say he would ruin her if she divorced him?....
Wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't put the sisters up to making the accusations.
Takes the heat of his throat grabbing antics suggesting she sprinkles cocaine on the kids cornflakes doesn't it?


She is better with out that ponce

Saph
17-12-2013, 10:59 AM
everyone loves a good scandal, if anything it will help Nigellas career now that newer younger chefs like Lorraine Pascal or w/e are becoming more famous

Nedusa
17-12-2013, 12:05 PM
I think Nigella's career will survive OK in fact with all the added publicity I think even more people who don't normally watch her will tune in. She is NOT on trial and any revelations regarding drug use are heresay and gossip so I think we have to take all of this with a large pinch of salt. she has done nothing wrong other than extricate herself from a violent sham of a marriage.

In fact if I was married to nasty controlling freak like that I would probably have to take drugs as well........!!!!

Kazanne
17-12-2013, 12:06 PM
I find this whole thing a disgrace the way the trial is being reported by the media.

The Sun for instance had the headline at the weekend, 'Nigella gave her children drugs'.
Nigella has already given an account of herself in the trial and that headline was a total disgrace.
It was one of the accused who are on trial for allegedly stealing from her and her husband who said she had done that, it is neither likely truth or proven fact.

I hope Nigella goes from strength to strength in her career and I feel it is shocking that she is the one being plastered all over the front pages and 'not' the 2 miserable people who are the ones actually on trial and the ones 'charged' with offences.

Exactamundo Joey agree with all that:hugesmile:the press are such plebs tbh.

erinp5
20-12-2013, 01:38 PM
Two sisters who worked as aides for Nigella Lawson and Charles Saatchi have been found not guilty of fraud.

Francesca Grillo, 35, and her sister Elisabetta, 41, were alleged to have used company credit cards to spend £685,000 on items for themselves including designer shoes and clothes.

The Italian sisters were employed as PAs by the TV cook and her multimillionaire art dealer ex-husband Charles Saatchi, who were divorced earlier this year.

A jury at Isleworth Crown Court took eight hours and 52 minutes to clear the pair of the charges against them.

The Grillo sisters were not in court to hear the verdicts but there was a cry of "yes" from someone in the public gallery.

Francesca was with her sister in another room in the court after Elisabetta, who suffers from claustrophobia and panic attacks, collapsed for the second time in 24 hours this morning.

After hearing the verdicts, Francesca could be seen smiling and talking excitedly in Italian on her phone as she was being hugged by a supporter.

Kizzy
20-12-2013, 02:01 PM
Oh well time to move on to the story that's been dominating the proceedings then?... *sigh*

Z
20-12-2013, 02:38 PM
Wonder what this will mean for Nigella now? I'm assuming they've been found not guilty because the court believes their story that Nigella allowed them to buy whatever they want so they wouldn't tell anyone about her drug habits? Does make you wonder if that's why Saatchi was strangling Nigella in public because it seemed out of character for a happily married couple, especially to do something so extreme so publicly.

sassysocks
21-12-2013, 01:08 PM
I 100% disagree
she is a cocaine user and is a disgusting example to the kids and viewers
she tried to cover it up and was it her money they were spending or her husbands?
whats also a disgrace is the bias towards nigella by her employers the bbc, who have hopelessly yet again to be objective , which is supposedly what they claim to be...disgraceful organization displaying yet more double standards and no doubt more cover ups again

Rubbish. As someone has already said, she was not on trial. The very occasional use of drugs does not a druggie make. Otherwise anyone who has ever touched a drop of alcohol is an alcoholic. You just want to smear the reputation of a respected, middle-class white woman, to in-turn smear the reputation of middle-class society. You are nothing if not totally transparent.

Livia
21-12-2013, 01:19 PM
Good luck to the Grillo sisters with ever finding another job anywhere.

Z
21-12-2013, 02:57 PM
Good luck to the Grillo sisters with ever finding another job anywhere.

God I know, they'll never be allowed access to company spending ever again, that's for sure.

Jesus.
21-12-2013, 03:07 PM
I'd take freedom and no job, over prison and then no job, any day of the week.