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Josy
17-12-2013, 12:16 PM
For decades fans have debated whether Marilyn Monroe went under the knife to jump-start her film career. Now, never-before-seen documents reveal the beauty icon did get medical help in her transition from Norma Jean Baker to Marilyn Monroe.

These medical records were put up for sale.

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/wp-content/uploads/Marilyn-Monroe-Before-After.jpg

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Young-Marilyn-Monroe-with-Brown-Hair-for-Yank-Army-Weekly-490x588.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/28/article-2180241-14431DDF000005DC-23_306x737.jpg

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Young-Marilyn-Monroe-William-Carroll-490x531.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/28/article-2180241-117D3246000005DC-739_306x386.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/28/article-2180241-0A0BBF6D000005DC-912_634x757.jpg

A quote from Marilyn

“I want to grow old without facelifts. I want to have the courage to be loyal to the face I have made.”

So can you tell she had plastic surgery (Cartilage removed in her nose and a chin implant)

Discuss...

Niamh.
17-12-2013, 12:19 PM
she does look better after it and it did make her career. It was a pretty decent job, not too much

Jessica.
17-12-2013, 12:30 PM
I don't get why people are so obsessed with her though, she was a dodgy woman and wasn't a good role model for anyone. I just saw someone sharing this (https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/1507671_337487179755498_1757357255_n.jpg) on facebook yesterday and I couldn't help myself but comment about the plastic surgery, someone else had already commented about the drugs. :joker: I think she is too overrated.

Niamh.
17-12-2013, 12:31 PM
I don't get why people are so obsessed with her though, she was a dodgy woman and wasn't a good role model for anyone. I just saw someone sharing this (https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/1507671_337487179755498_1757357255_n.jpg) on facebook yesterday and I couldn't help myself but comment about the plastic surgery, someone else had already commented about the drugs. :joker: I think she is too overrated.

I don't think people ever considered her to be a role model, more like the biggest sex symbol of her time, which she was tbf

Natalie.
17-12-2013, 12:33 PM
Yes I can tell and she does look better after it.Didn't need it but guess it did her good

Kizzy
17-12-2013, 12:50 PM
I thought it was common knowledge Diana Dors was better looking and a better actress too?

Josy
17-12-2013, 01:10 PM
I don't think people ever considered her to be a role model, more like the biggest sex symbol of her time, which she was tbf

She is widely known as the all American natural beauty icon though.

Just like that image Jess posted shows, when she really wasn't all that natural at all :laugh:

I don't think she actually needed to have any work done and think the plastic surgery would have been kept under wraps back then because of the reason I posted above and also because it was all still relatively new back then.

I do also think it was wrong and in bad taste to sell her medical records.

Z
17-12-2013, 02:49 PM
I thought it was common knowledge she had had work done? I don't think it made her very happy, I think it's why she had such a tragic life really, she might have been the greatest sex symbol of her time but I don't think she really felt like a sex symbol, she seemed very insecure and got caught up in a lot of stupid stuff. Find it more interesting to discuss whether or not she died of an overdose or if she was murdered by a Kennedy or Kennedy associate.

King Gizzard
17-12-2013, 02:54 PM
don't get the fuss over her

Smithy
17-12-2013, 03:01 PM
Don't really see the problem, if someone is (or she was) insecure about the way they look, change it :shrug:

Z
17-12-2013, 03:03 PM
don't get the fuss over her

I think it's a combination of her being the first international sex symbol of the media age - yes you had beautiful and more talented actresses before her, but she was packaged as this bottle blonde sexy woman who socialised with the most powerful men in America; and the fact she died relatively young and seemed quite wise for someone who was pigeon holed into this sex symbol status. Her quotes have endured over the years which helps.

Z
17-12-2013, 03:04 PM
Don't really see the problem, if someone is (or she was) insecure about the way they look, change it :shrug:

She wasn't insecure about the way she looked; she was told she had to change her appearance in order to achieve success - which then became true because changing her appearance turned her into a star; but whether or not she could have managed that without surgery isn't clear and obviously we'll never know. I think she became insecure because her self worth and her value as an actress was based solely on her appearance, which wasn't even natural and she didn't feel that she matched up to the persona that the media had given her. That's my understanding of her life anyway.

arista
17-12-2013, 04:10 PM
"Marilyn Monroe went under the knife to jump-start"


Of Course her Film Company
that owned her (yes they were shocking days )
paid for it.

GypsyGoth
17-12-2013, 05:09 PM
I didn't think they did surgery like that back then.

Z
17-12-2013, 05:13 PM
I didn't think they did surgery like that back then.

I think it's where the obsession with plastic surgery began really. She must have been one of the first.

Lee.
17-12-2013, 05:14 PM
This wasn't a secret was it? .. I'm positive I watched a documentary about her a few years ago where it spoke about her surgery :)

Z
17-12-2013, 05:14 PM
This wasn't a secret was it? .. I'm positive I watched a documentary about her a few years ago where it spoke about her surgery :)

Yeah that's what I thought, I've definitely heard she had surgery before

Jesus.
17-12-2013, 05:15 PM
I'm sure she's naturally thinner these days.

Z
17-12-2013, 05:15 PM
I'm sure she's naturally thinner these days.

Griiiiiim, hahaha

Me. I Am Salman
17-12-2013, 05:17 PM
I am this generation's Marilyn Monroe

Ammi
17-12-2013, 05:44 PM
..I found the movie My Week With Marilyn quite interesting because I think maybe she was quite a manipulative person in some ways...but still quite childlike, quite complex, I think...

AnnieK
17-12-2013, 05:49 PM
Some Like it Hot is such a great Sunday afternoon film....it's my favourite of hers. I have seen some documentaries and she seemed a nightmare to work with

arista
17-12-2013, 06:02 PM
I didn't think they did surgery like that back then.


Big Film Company's
did do it

Due to Mega Films Making Dosh

arista
17-12-2013, 06:04 PM
I'm sure she's naturally thinner these days.


Yes due the maggots
6 feet under

Lee.
17-12-2013, 06:06 PM
..I found the movie My Week With Marilyn quite interesting because I think maybe she was quite a manipulative person in some ways...but still quite childlike, quite complex, I think...

I think she was bonkers :)

Z
17-12-2013, 06:12 PM
I think she was bonkers :)

Yeah

Nemo123
17-12-2013, 10:50 PM
I've seen a hardcore film with her in it. It's quite tame hardcore, but it contains the essential elements, a BJ and intercourse.
It's not conclusive, but there's a couple or so of frames where she exudes Marilyn, facially. I have a link to it on my other computer.

Nemo123
18-12-2013, 04:39 AM
She's still beautiful, and way ahead of her time in making a porn video, when you consider all the nobodies like that Kardashian woman whose only claim to fame is being rogered by a big black guy.