Should Smoking Be Banned on BB?

[Nemo123]

TV advertising has clamped down on smoking, and even subliminal advertising, like showing characters smoke on soaps, has been all but cut out. So, should it be cut out of Big Brother?

[ChristmasNeeve]

alot of the best conversations happen at the smoking area so no

[Rob!]

No... BB is a reality show. People smoke, like people swear, people argue, people bitch. Plus, the cigs are usually used as some form of tension build at some point.

[Nemo123]

Smoking is possibly the most unhealthy thing you can do. So, should it be encouraged?
I think it shouldn't be allowed on BB, on reality TV, because the viewer is encouraged to feel a bond with the star, like in no other way, much stronger. It's reality TV, and if part of that reality is smoking, it's spreading an unhealthy consumer product, and encouraging the consumption of it.

[Josy]

No.

Drinking isn't exactly the healthiest thing you can do should they be stopped from doing that too?

[Good King Glennceslas]

People will always smoke. Ban it from television all you want. People were smoking long before TV was even invented.

[Jordan.]

no

[Nemo123]

No.

Drinking isn't exactly the healthiest thing you can do should they be stopped from doing that too?


Smoking is a random carcinogenic. Drinking is more of a compounded carcinogenic. In other words, no amount of tobacco is safe, whereas if you stay within health guidelines for alcohol, you'll be OK.

[Good King Glennceslas]

In extreme cases you can die from alcohol intoxication. You can't die from smoking a cigarette. Not immediately anyway.

[Nemo123]

People will always smoke. Ban it from television all you want. People were smoking long before TV was even invented.

Here in Ireland, we were the first country in Europe to ban smoking in the workplace. Now a store has to hide its cigarettes behind a screen, with no labelling. There's no advertising of tobacco here in Ireland, and it is making a difference. It's weaning people off fags. And Big Brother should do its bit too.

[Good King Glennceslas]

The hiding cigarettes behind a screen is here too. Doesn't stop people smoking.

[Ramsay]

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[In the Drunk Tank]

But smoking is cool

[Nemo123]

In extreme cases you can die from alcohol intoxication. You can't die from smoking a cigarette. Not immediately anyway.

It's copycat behaviour, and what's cool. BB is fairly responsible with the boose. It's beer or wine. And it's rationed.
Yet smoking is unrestricted. It's bizarre. It's sending out the wrong messages. Fags are goin' to kill you. Not boose!

[Nemo123]

The hiding cigarettes behind a screen is here too. Doesn't stop people smoking.

I do think it does. You wean people off. And the worse thing you can do is to put role models on telly smoking, and encouraging people to smoke. Do a service, Ch5, don't allow smokers.

[T*]

While we're at it we should stop them drinking booze and install chips in everyone's head so when they swear they get electrocuted. :idc:

No.

[joeysteele]

No, you cannot expect people to commit to 3 weeks or more of a programme that is filmed 24 hours a day and deny them the right to smoke if they so desire to do so.

[Nemo123]

No, you cannot expect people to commit to 3 weeks or more of a programme that is filmed 24 hours a day and deny them the right to smoke if they so desire to do so.


Yes you can. If someone promised you a hundred grand to give up cigarettes for a week, or 3, would you say no?

[joeysteele]

Yes you can. If someone promised you a hundred grand to give up cigarettes for a week, or 3, would you say no?

I don't smoke and never have, the point is if I did and I felt I could give it up then I would probably for a length of time but I still wouldn't really agree to such a decision being forced on me anyway,especially on a show like BB.

[Nemo123]

I don't smoke and never have, the point is if I did and I felt I could give it up then I would probably for a length of time but I still wouldn't really agree to such a decision being forced on me anyway,especially on a show like BB.


How can it be forced on you? It's a condition, take it or leave it!
The benefit is we don't have role models sucking gasps of poison into their lungs and encouraging everyone else to do so.

[joeysteele]

How can it be forced on you? It's a condition, take it or leave it!
The benefit is we don't have role models sucking gasps of poison into their lungs and encouraging everyone else to do so.

Right, as this may go on and on, I will now answer that if it was a condition that I had to not smoke for over 3 weeks on BB or any other simliar show or I don't get paid,then if I was a regular smoker I would have to decline going on it.

If it is a condition that cannot be negotiated in order to get the fee for going on such a show then it is, in all fact, a condition being forced on you.

[Nemo123]

Right, as this may go on and on, I will now answer that if it was a condition that I had to not smoke for over 3 weeks on BB or any other simliar show or I don't get paid,then if I was a regular smoker I would have to decline going on it.

If it is a condition that cannot be negotiated in order to get the fee for going on such a show then it is, in all fact, a condition being forced on you.

No it's not.

It's a condition. Take it or leave it. No coercion involved.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No for god sakes.

Producers cant say *No you cant be a housemate because you smoke.

[joeysteele]

No it's not.

It's a condition. Take it or leave it. No coercion involved.

Fair enough you think that.

However to me conditions that cannot be negotiated are forced conditions on the individual.
If you are saying to someone I will only give you this if you agree to totally stop this or that for the whole period you are connected then you are forcing a condition on someone.
If they don't accept that condition, then the only option open to them is to decline and then lose out.

I wouldn't agree with that.
I could on certain activities hold off doing something I enjoyed or even was sort of addicted to, if I was to anything.
On a show however like BB which is what the thread asks, then no,I would not agree to that and I don't think smoking should be banned during it too,especially since it is a legal activity in the UK anyway.

[Samm]

I don't smoke but it's there own choice. So no

[Northern Monkey]

No!Stop it!Soon this show will be nothing but a group people sitting around drinking decaff and talking about gardening(because we would'nt want to offend anyone anywhere with a controversial topic) if we don't stop being so sensitive to anything and everything that happens in real life.If smoking offends you that much then just close your eyes when the nasty bit in the garden comes on.Smh

[toronto_matt]

Smoking is possibly the most unhealthy thing you can do. So, should it be encouraged?
I think it shouldn't be allowed on BB, on reality TV, because the viewer is encouraged to feel a bond with the star, like in no other way, much stronger. It's reality TV, and if part of that reality is smoking, it's spreading an unhealthy consumer product, and encouraging the consumption of it.

why would they ban something inside the house that is completely legal in the outside world?

[Nemo123]

Fair enough you think that.

However to me conditions that cannot be negotiated are forced conditions on the individual.
If you are saying to someone I will only give you this if you agree to totally stop this or that for the whole period you are connected then you are forcing a condition on someone.
If they don't accept that condition, then the only option open to them is to decline and then lose out.

I wouldn't agree with that.
I could on certain activities hold off doing something I enjoyed or even was sort of addicted to, if I was to anything.
On a show however like BB which is what the thread asks, then no,I would not agree to that and I don't think smoking should be banned during it too,especially since it is a legal activity in the UK anyway.

Well, smoking is banned in the workplace. I would argue anywhere they are on camera, outdoors too, is the workplace. If they have to smoke it should be off camera.

[Alf]

Piss off Mary Whitehouse.

[toronto_matt]

Well, smoking is banned in the workplace. I would argue anywhere they are on camera, outdoors too, is the workplace. If they have to smoke it should be off camera.

your stretching there bud.

workplace? are you generally allowed to get drunk and consume alcohol while at work? what about a man almost humping a woman from behind and making sexual advances?

bad analogy!

[Nemo123]

why would they ban something inside the house that is completely legal in the outside world?
Well, it is illegal in the workplace, which arguably anytime they are on camera is the workplace
and they are advertising smoking, because they are celebrities indulging in that habit on TV

[joeysteele]

Well, smoking is banned in the workplace. I would argue anywhere they are on camera, outdoors too, is the workplace. If they have to smoke it should be off camera.

Sorry, I wouldn't and couldn't support that at all.
I respect it is your right to say that though if you feel it strongly enough.
It is not my way at all however.

[Nemo123]

I do actually feel very strongly about this, and I'm not just looking for an argument for argument's sake.
Role models smoking on television is tantamount to tobacco advertising, which is illegal on TV, and it's illegal for a very good reason. Smoking kills!

[Urban Cragou]

Yes, make smoking a ban-able offence because fighting, bitching, swearing and boozing are all so much better. Genius move.

[Urban Cragou]

I do actually feel very strongly about this, and I'm not just looking for an argument for argument's sake.
Role models smoking on television is tantamount to tobacco advertising, which is illegal on TV, and it's illegal for a very good reason. Smoking kills!

Alcohol kills as well and why should reality shoes that screen well past the watershed be a role model to protect innocent school kids and overly touchy souls?

Everything out there has the potential to offend somebody. Banning things on which Big Brother is built us absurd and soon we'll be left with a BB4-esque utopia where everybody gets along and we dare not promote unhealthy habits. Not that smoking is integral to these shows but no point stopping them because the idea personally doesn't tickle your fancy.

I'm sure all the housemates and matte viewers are very aware of the negative effects of smoking but - perish the thought - choose to take their chances and continue doing something they legitimately enjoy? That or they're trying to quit, in which case constant messages hammering the point about those lethal cancer sticks aren't helpful or needed.

Not fussed about the high amount of sex in the house right now but if anything I'd sooner tackle that than people lighting up.

[HD]

If smoking on Big Brother encourages its viewers to smoke then for Christ sake do not watch the Kinga Bottle episode...

[The Human Santapede]

No, it's a reality TV show. People smoke in reality.

[Ammi]

..no, I think it would be a bit silly to provide them with so much alcohol and then say they can't smoke...both are unhealthy ...

[Bojangles]

Smoking is possibly the most unhealthy thing you can do. So, should it be encouraged?
I think it shouldn't be allowed on BB, on reality TV, because the viewer is encouraged to feel a bond with the star, like in no other way, much stronger. It's reality TV, and if part of that reality is smoking, it's spreading an unhealthy consumer product, and encouraging the consumption of it.

Overeating is probably more unhealthy.Should they ration housemates.I don't think so.We still live in a free democracy.

[chuff me dizzy]

Of course not, they are all adults who have a choice to smoke ,theres too many places where smoking is banned by do gooders

[Bojangles]

So right Chuff.