Dappy calls Jasmine a slut

[Kazanne]

LOLing at Dappy on BBBOTS clip calling Jasmine a slut and arguing with Luisa and Jasmine.Will be a good show tomorrow if they show it

[Kazanne]

even better Luisa and him having a row,lol

[Z]

I'm watching :amazed: and at first I was wondering wtf he was playing at but I think he's making good points the more of this I see.

[Benjamin]

The hypocrisy from Dappy. :laugh:

[Jordan.]

Dappy is being a complete moron

[Kate!]

Dappy with the double standards :fist:

[Jordan.]

The dragging and clocking from Luisa :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Dappy is great! :D

[Doogle]

They will show it, look at this never-ending argument.

Dappy is disgusting for saying that though.

[Drew.]

Luisa has just dealt a killer blow

[Livia]

Typical hysterical argument. None of them can remember the original point.

[Kazanne]

I'm watching :amazed: and at first I was wondering wtf he was playing at but I think he's making good points the more of this I see.

he is making good points to be fair

[Samm]

Dappy is a complete dick head

[Jemal]

Dappy just finished luisa

[Vanessa]

Dappy just finished luisa

:pipe2:

[Doogle]

Dappy just finished luisa

Not when she was the one who completely and utterly destroyed him and put him down 10 pegs. What a vile man talking about women like that

[reece(:]

Luisa served him some boiling hot spillage, the clockage of Dappy Contostavlos was undeniable

[Z]

I know it is sexist on the face of it, but she's a parent and he isn't, I think he thinks she should have more self respect because she's a mother, that's how I interpreted it

[Jemal]

Luisa is a prick for bringing up dappys mother.
I would flip out at her.

[Brother Leon]

Luisa made it personal and then Dappy completely destroyed her life.

[Kazanne]

Linda just stood in the middle of them,she only goes for Jim

[Jemal]

Not when she was the one who completely and utterly destroyed him and put him down 10 pegs. What a vile man talking about women like that

So a woman who sleeps with ten men in a night is known as what then?

[Samm]

Luisa won the argument, dappy is just going off topic

[Jemal]

She had no right bringing his mother into it. #fact

[smudgie]

Hmmmm.well, sleep with however many people you want..just be careful and above all, discreet.
Especially when your poor kid can see it all over the Internet for years to come.

[Jordan.]

Luisa made it personal and then Dappy completely destroyed her life.

The delusion, I hope this is just trolling

[Doogle]

So a woman who sleeps with ten men in a night is known as what then?

...A woman who slept with ten men in a night...

That situation is not what most people think is okay but that gives no one a right to label a woman and degrade her for that

[GiRTh]

I know it is sexist on the face of it, but she's a parent and he isn't, I think he thinks she should have more self respect because she's a mother, that's how I interpreted it
Agree. Both are as bad as each other in the argument and no one really won but Dappy's point made more sense than her name calling. Luisa showed her colours more than Dappy.

[Livia]

Agree. Both are as bad as each other in the argument and no one really won but Dappy's point made more sense than her name calling. Luisa showed her colours more than Dappy.

Completely agree.

[reece(:]

The delusion, I hope this is just trolling
It is called viewing the show wearing rose tinted glasses

[Amy Jade]

How can people actually think Dappy won? :laugh2:

[Kazanne]

I think I'm leaning more with Dappy on this one

[Jemal]

Also the way luisa decided to start shouting:joker:
Shes funny ill give her that.
SHe got destroyed, im not gonna lie.

[Z]

Agree. Both are as bad as each other in the argument and no one really won but Dappy's point made more sense than her name calling. Luisa showed her colours more than Dappy.

Yep. I mean calling a woman a slut is bad but he wasn't just saying it to be horrible, he was trying to make the point that she has a child at home and she ought to be acting a bit more responsibly; what kind of message is that sending to her daughter? Dappy doesn't have any dependents, he doesn't have to be a role model to anyone. She made herself look bad by trying to be condescending about intelligence and avoided answering his question and then started shouting abuse at him.

[reece(:]

How can people actually think Dappy won? :laugh2:
My comment above explains it

[Brother Leon]

Luisa won the argument, dappy is just going off topic

#Fail

She was the first one to mention his mother. She made it personal and then couldn't handle it when he done so.

[MrWong]

How did Dappy win?

He originally said that it was cool for guys to sleep with 5 girls in one night but a girl doing the same would be a *****.

Then he backtracked and lied about what he'd originally said.

[GiRTh]

How can people actually think Dappy won? :laugh2:
No one won but we saw a bit more of what Luisa is really like than we saw of what Dappy is really like. She almost threw water at him at one stage and made a comment about hin being the fakest HM when she's totally unaware that that poll was done by Casey and Lee. She was dragging up anything she could. Still think she won?

[Amy Jade]

His mum probably is ashamed.

[Jemal]

#Fail

She was the first one to mention his mother. She made it personal and then couldn't handle it when he done so.

!

[Kazanne]

Yep. I mean calling a woman a slut is bad but he wasn't just saying it to be horrible, he was trying to make the point that she has a child at home and she ought to be acting a bit more responsibly; what kind of message is that sending to her daughter? Dappy doesn't have any dependents, he doesn't have to be a role model to anyone. She made herself look bad by trying to be condescending about intelligence and avoided answering his question and then started shouting abuse at him.

Tbh,she did call him a pig first

[MrWong]

Yep. I mean calling a woman a slut is bad but he wasn't just saying it to be horrible, he was trying to make the point that she has a child at home and she ought to be acting a bit more responsibly; what kind of message is that sending to her daughter? Dappy doesn't have any dependents, he doesn't have to be a role model to anyone. She made herself look bad by trying to be condescending about intelligence and avoided answering his question and then started shouting abuse at him.

I think Dappy has two kids.

[reece(:]

Tbh,she did call him a pig first
And rightfully so, after these sexist views

[Amy Jade]

No one won but we saw a bit more of what Luisa is really like than we saw of what Dappy is really like. She almost threw water at him at one stage and made a comment about hin being the fakest HM when she's totally unaware that that poll was done by Casey and Lee. She was dragging up anything she could. Still think she won?

I didn't say she won, I think neither did but he looked an idiot calling Jasmine a slag, he was all over her a few days ago until she made it clear she's not interested.

[Lostie!]

The hypocrisy from Dappy. :laugh:

Luisa is just as much of a hypocrite. She always brings up how "rude" people are to her in arguments, as if she's never rude to anyone.

Not to mention she's ranting about Dappy's "bigotry". Her "she's just menopausal" line was a little ageist itself.

I'm not defending Dappy, I'm on neither side here.

[Drew.]

Dappy saying her kid wouldn't be impressed with her when he has a kid of his own and took a photo of his carrot and onions for the world to see to promote a single

[Z]

I think Dappy has two kids.

Just looked it up, so he does. :shrug: He's still making a good point regardless of whether he's a hypocrite or not, in my opinion.

[Amy Jade]

Dappy saying her kid wouldn't be impressed with her when he has a kid of his own and took a photo of his carrot and onions for the world to see to promote a single
This is what's laughable really.

[Jemal]

Dappy still makes a good point even if he has two kids.
lol.
If luisa didnt mention the mother bit i would probably not give a flying **** about this arguement as its so stupid.

But luisa is such a bitch.

[reece(:]

Drew has clocked everyone, time to close the thread

[lily.]

I know it is sexist on the face of it, but she's a parent and he isn't, I think he thinks she should have more self respect because she's a mother, that's how I interpreted it

I thought dappy had a kid too.. :/

[MrWong]

Dappy still makes a good point even if he has two kids.
lol.
If luisa didnt mention the mother bit i would probably not give a flying **** about this arguement as its so stupid.

But luisa is such a bitch.

That was the most stupid part of the argument.

Reminded me of school. "Did you just cuss my mum doeee?!"

[reece(:]

I thought dappy had a kid too.. :/
He has two

[jegmeister]

Dappy just finished luisa

er...yeah if you say so:conf2:

[waylander1973]

Well guess who up next time.

[sampvt]

Snow white slept with 7 and everyone loves her.

[Kazanne]

Snow white slept with 7 and everyone loves her.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Jemal]

That was the most stupid part of the argument.

Reminded me of school. "Did you just cuss my mum doeee?!"

Thas not what was said tho..

"Your mother would be ashamed of you" is what was Said.
Won't be shocked if you defend that aswell tbh.

[MrWong]

Thas not what was said tho..

"Your mother would be ashamed of you" is what was Said.
Won't be shocked if you defend that aswell tbh.


Don't you think his mum would be ashamed of his sexist views?

He must have been ashamed of them himself as he backtracked.

[Jemal]

Don't you think his mum would be ashamed of his sexist views?

He must have been ashamed of them himself as he backtracked.

Ah there we go.

[Z]

Snow white slept with 7 and everyone loves her.

She was also fed a poisoned apple by a witch for her troubles. Better keep an eye on Linda and the fruit bowl.

[armand.kay]

How can you call anyone a slut when you release your nudes for promo....

[Jezzy]

They are both parents, I honestly feel sorry for their children. Hate to sound like an angry old woman, but whatever happened to setting an example?

[reece(:]

How cam you anyone a slut when you release your nudes for promo....
Because he is a hypocrite

[armand.kay]

Because he is a hypocrite

Sis you clicked quote before I edited the post.

[Cherie]

They are both parents, I honestly feel sorry for their children. Hate to sound like an angry old woman, but whatever happened to setting an example?

oh you and your old fashioned values :fist:

[Clangy]

How can you call anyone a slut when you release your nudes for promo....
his nudes were released nearly a month before his first single, he must have been lying in the task the other day.

[Jezzy]

oh you and your old fashioned values :fist:

:love:

[Jack_]

Hilarious argument but of course Dappy was wrong, I mean how can there be a discussion about this? That's if we're talking about the actual subject of the argument of course, as far as I'm concerned their respective conduct throughout is a bit irrelevant to the discussion. If we're talking about what the argument actually transpired from, then there's no debate to be had to be quite honest.

Thinking that it's alright for a man to sleep around but if a woman does it she's a 'slut' is exactly the kind of misogynistic and sexist drivel I was going on about the other night. Completely hypocritical, bullsh*t nonsense.

[MarcusMel]

Ok - I'm 57, Dappy and his opinion I disagree with. Women have every right to be and do what fits their needs just the same as men. Lee from Blue is as much a slut as Luisa. We are not all the same in terms of what we feel we need nor are we all the same in what we believe is right.

So the question is 'Why does Dappy feel so strongly about how many men a woman sleeps with?"

Perhaps behind this something else!

Perhaps Dappy was getting emotional about Luisa and now feels his affections have been betrayed because Luisa enjoys a less personal relationship with men but just likes to enjoy the bodily pleasure they can give her.

After all any exploration of what happens in the world would reveal that Dappy's opinions are irrelevant. People of the world will do as they like no matter what others think. So there is no argument outside of CBB whether what Luisa does is wrong or right.

Personally the stalking by Dappy to punish Luisa for lifestyle was unpleasant to see.

[Amy Jade]

Ok - I'm 57, Dappy and his opinion I disagree with. Women have every right to be and do what fits their needs just the same as men. Lee from Blue is as much a slut as Luisa. We are not all the same in terms of what we feel we need nor are we all the same in what we believe is right.

So the question is 'Why does Dappy feel so strongly about how many men a woman sleeps with?"

Perhaps behind this something else!

Perhaps Dappy was getting emotional about Luisa and now feels his affections have been betrayed because Luisa enjoys a less personal relationship with men but just likes to enjoy the bodily pleasure they can give her.

After all any exploration of what happens in the world would reveal that Dappy's opinions are irrelevant. People of the world will do as they like no matter what others think. So there is no argument outside of CBB whether what Luisa does is wrong or right.

Personally the stalking by Dappy to punish Luisa for lifestyle was unpleasant to see.
Welcome to the forum :love:

[Z]

What I find interesting about the topic of conversation Dappy brought up is that it's rarely looked at the other way round... as in, there's focus on why is it that when a woman does it she's a slut but a man does it and he's a pimp... but why is it never looked at from the point of view of why do men feel no shame about sleeping around whereas women, whether consciously or not, are really sensitive to being criticised for doing the same thing? Why do men not feel any guilt for doing it? It's an interesting debate, but I don't think Dappy OR Luisa have the mental capacity to discuss such a topic, at least not without it getting personal as shown by tonight!

[Jack_]

What I find interesting about the topic of conversation Dappy brought up is that it's rarely looked at the other way round... as in, there's focus on why is it that when a woman does it she's a slut but a man does it and he's a pimp... but why is it never looked at from the point of view of why do men feel no shame about sleeping around whereas women, whether consciously or not, are really sensitive to being criticised for doing the same thing? Why do men not feel any guilt for doing it? It's an interesting debate, but I don't think Dappy OR Luisa have the mental capacity to discuss such a topic, at least not without it getting personal as shown by tonight!

Because we live in a culture dominated by men and a belief system that perpetuates this idea that women must remain pure and only have sex within a relationship whilst men are celebrated and encouraged on a daily basis to look at women as objects and boast about how many they've slept with. Personally I couldn't care less regardless of gender as I addressed in the other thread, but it really pisses me off how sexist this idea is and how unfortunately prevalent it is.

I will say though is that women do go a long way as to perpetuating this belief themselves and it's sad, because it is mainly girls that you will hear every day discussing other 'sluts' and I find it so depressing to listen to, I just want to shake them and tell them to wake up and realise what's actually happening, how some men are doing exactly the same thing around them and yet no one's paying them any attention.

[Kate!]

Hilarious argument but of course Dappy was wrong, I mean how can there be a discussion about this? That's if we're talking about the actual subject of the argument of course, as far as I'm concerned their respective conduct throughout is a bit irrelevant to the discussion. If we're talking about what the argument actually transpired from, then there's no debate to be had to be quite honest.

Thinking that it's alright for a man to sleep around but if a woman does it she's a 'slut' is exactly the kind of misogynistic and sexist drivel I was going on about the other night. Completely hypocritical, bullsh*t nonsense.

Ok - I'm 57, Dappy and his opinion I disagree with. Women have every right to be and do what fits their needs just the same as men. Lee from Blue is as much a slut as Luisa. We are not all the same in terms of what we feel we need nor are we all the same in what we believe is right.

So the question is 'Why does Dappy feel so strongly about how many men a woman sleeps with?"

Perhaps behind this something else!

Perhaps Dappy was getting emotional about Luisa and now feels his affections have been betrayed because Luisa enjoys a less personal relationship with men but just likes to enjoy the bodily pleasure they can give her.

After all any exploration of what happens in the world would reveal that Dappy's opinions are irrelevant. People of the world will do as they like no matter what others think. So there is no argument outside of CBB whether what Luisa does is wrong or right.

Personally the stalking by Dappy to punish Luisa for lifestyle was unpleasant to see.

Because we live in a culture dominated by men and a belief system that perpetuates this idea that women must remain pure and only have sex within a relationship whilst men are celebrated and encouraged on a daily basis to look at women as objects and boast about how many they've slept with. Personally I couldn't care less regardless of gender as I addressed in the other thread, but it really pisses me off how sexist this idea is and how unfortunately prevalent it is.

I will say though is that women do go a long way as to perpetuating this belief themselves and it's sad, because it is mainly girls that you will hear every day discussing other 'sluts' and I find it so depressing to listen to, I just want to shake them and tell them to wake up and realise what's actually happening, how some men are doing exactly the same thing around them and yet no one's paying them any attention.

Okay, 'morally wrong'.
Making a sexist comment is morally wrong, and you have to be a misogynist to agree with what Dappy said.

Great posts, all of these.

[rionablue]

ok my opinion for what its worth is that neither of then won this argument and both actually did themselves no favours. Firstly both OF THEM said things in the heat of the argument that they shouldn't have. BOTH of them got personal her referring to his mother him referring to her daughter. Men sleeping with 5 women in a night is no different to Women sleeping with five men. Both are to be judged the same and not to be seen in any kind of good light at that. The one thing that I felt incriminated Dappy a very small bit more than Luisa is that he kept following her and continuing the argument and each time that happened it blew it up even more. it didn't look good for any of them and I don't think that either of their fans can really defend their personal favourite and say one was worse than the other cos in my eyes ( and I happen to like Luisa and moderately like Dappy) it was a stupid slanging match that should have finished in the first scene and not gone to scene 2 3 or 4

[Lowkey]

Luisa is crying all over the gaf. Poor girl. Dappy finished her.

[MarcusMel]

What I find interesting about the topic of conversation Dappy brought up is that it's rarely looked at the other way round... as in, there's focus on why is it that when a woman does it she's a slut but a man does it and he's a pimp... but why is it never looked at from the point of view of why do men feel no shame about sleeping around whereas women, whether consciously or not, are really sensitive to being criticised for doing the same thing? Why do men not feel any guilt for doing it? It's an interesting debate, but I don't think Dappy OR Luisa have the mental capacity to discuss such a topic, at least not without it getting personal as shown by tonight!

To discuss this subject reasonably we have to consider the knowledge required to be sure we know what we are talking about. Why do women select certain men over others? (Women think like eggs (scarce resource) and men like sperm -David DeAngelo) How do morals shape our society? Do people need to think themselves superior to others so that they know their place within a social group? All of which would delightfully lead us off topic!

[likeafire]

But hes right? None of these women in the house have any class or self respect. Maybe Sam, but dont even know she exists in the house

[smudgie]

So a woman who sleeps with ten men in a night is known as what then?

Energetic!

[Z]

To discuss this subject reasonably we have to consider the knowledge required to be sure we know what we are talking about. Why do women select certain men over others? (Women think like eggs (scarce resource) and men like sperm -David DeAngelo) How do morals shape our society? Do people need to think themselves superior to others so that they know their place within a social group? All of which would delightfully lead us off topic!

It really intrigues me!

[Colbert-Bump]

If you tell the world, you attend sex parties & have orgies then don't be surprised when people use it against you in arguments.

[MarcusMel]

If you tell the world, you attend sex parties & have orgies then don't be surprised when people use it against you in arguments.

Is that a rational way to argue? Perhaps you are saying 'I am right in what I say because I have the moral high ground'?

To be honest your statement makes no rational sense to me.

[Colbert-Bump]

Is that a rational way to argue? Perhaps you are saying 'I am right in what I say because I have the moral high ground'?

To be honest your statement makes no rational sense to me.

They are both as bad as each other in my opinion. Luisa has made her sexual past very public, Dappy has every right to question her on it.

[Jake.]

Yep. I mean calling a woman a slut is bad but he wasn't just saying it to be horrible, he was trying to make the point that she has a child at home and she ought to be acting a bit more responsibly; what kind of message is that sending to her daughter? Dappy doesn't have any dependents, he doesn't have to be a role model to anyone. She made herself look bad by trying to be condescending about intelligence and avoided answering his question and then started shouting abuse at him.

He has two kids? Hardly been a role model to them either tbh.

[Jemal]

They are both as bad as each other in my opinion. Luisa has made her sexual past very public, Dappy has every right to question her on it.

lol this.
People on this forum act like luisa is some saint.
when shes the instigator of arguements all the time.
The way she is so stuck up is unbelievable, and her hypocrisy is on a new level.
She brings dappys mum into it but cant handle when dappy brings her daughter into it.
She can dish it out but she can't take it.

Everything i hate in a woman, i swear.

[Ammi]

lol this.
People on this forum act like luisa is some saint.
when shes the instigator of arguements all the time.
The way she is so stuck up is unbelievable, and her hypocrisy is on a new level. She brings dappys mum into it but cant handle when dappy brings her daughter into it.
She can dish it out but she can't take it.

Everything i hate in a woman, i swear.



..the thing is though, is that they were both hypocrites in that neither one has the right to judge the other one and there is no doubt that what Dappy said about it being ok for males to be promiscuous but not females is a sexist thing to say, so Luisa was right to say so...but she then inferred that he was 'inferior' to her intellectually, which she had no right to do and of course he said, oh I've got academic qualifications etc and it all got a bit silly as these things do and she brought his mum into it/he brought her daughter into it etc...none of that had anything to do with the original comment from Dappy, which was meant to be the issue and the only person that was really 'in the right' was Jasmine, who said that it was all a matter of opinion/subjective..but even then, it doesn't mean that the original comment was any less sexist...but it's not an unusual opinion either, females are often judged more harshly than males in certain things...

[Jemal]

..the thing is though, is that they were both hypocrites in that neither one has the right to judge the other one and there is no doubt that what Dappy said about it being ok for males to be promiscuous but not females is a sexist thing to say, so Luisa was right to say so...but she then inferred that he was 'inferior' to her intellectually, which she had no right to do and of course he said, oh I've got academic qualifications etc and it all got a bit silly as these things do and she brought his mum into it/he brought her daughter into it etc...none of that had anything to do with the original comment from Dappy, which was meant to be the issue and the only person that was really 'in the right' was Jasmine, who said that it was all a matter of opinion/subjective..but even then, it doesn't mean that the original comment was any less sexist...but it's not an unusual opinion either, females are often judged more harshly than males in certain things...

The reason im not getting onto dappy for the "its ok for men" comment is because he had the dignity to apologise to jasmine when she said she was offended and say 'i was wrong, i ment pigs, im sorry'.

Luisa can only dream of doing that. She was blatenyly trying to make dappy look bad and failed with flying crayons. Dappy ended her.

[Ammi]

The reason im not getting onto dappy for the "its ok for men" comment is because he had the dignity to apologise to jasmine when she said she was offended and say 'i was wrong, i ment pigs, im sorry'.

Luisa can only dream of doing that. She was blatenyly trying to make dappy look bad and failed with flying crayons. Dappy ended her.

..I don't think he ended her..(whatever that means lol..)..neither of them looked really very good imo, but I'll be interested to see the whole thing in sequence on the highlight show if they do show it because in some ways it seemed like Luisa was pursuing it with her comments about him being less intelligent etc and her never having met 'anyone like that before..'..?..but she said that he was following her around and wouldn't let it drop....hmmmmm....

[Jemal]

..I don't think he ended her..(whatever that means lol..)..neither of them looked really very good imo, but I'll be interested to see the whole thing in sequence on the highlight show if they do show it because in some ways it seemed like Luisa was pursuing it with her comments about him being less intelligent etc and her never having met 'anyone like that before..'..?..but she said that he was following her around and wouldn't let it drop....hmmmmm....

Should be interesting.

[Pete.]

She had no right bringing his mother into it. #fact
he had no right to bring her daughter into it

[Jemal]

he had no right to bring her daughter into it

Why didnt he?
I know its abit childish but if she can bring up his mother why can he bring up her daughter. This double standards is amazing.

Your just posting from your hatred of dappy. Thats the truth, the whole truth and nuttin but the truth.

[Jordan.]

Wtf is with the 'Dappy ended her' comments, Is that supposed to make him look big and hard?

[Brother Leon]

It's just hilarious how people are calling Dappy a dick and all while championing Luisa. Maybe if she was able to debate like an adult ala Jasmine and Dappy then you could say she came out better than him. At the end if the day they both came out stupid and Jasmine should teach Luisa a few things.

[Jake.]

It's just hilarious how people are calling Dappy a dick and all while championing Luisa. Maybe if she was able to debate like an adult ala Jasmine and Dappy then you could say she came out better than him. At the end if the day they both came out stupid and Jasmine should teach Luisa a few things.

I'd say that Jasmine argued in a well manner, not Dappy/Luisa though :laugh: more than that, people should just enjoy it for what it is lol

[Livia]

They are all equally ridiculous.

[Brother Leon]

I'd say that Jasmine argued in a well manner, not Dappy/Luisa though :laugh: more than that, people should just enjoy it for what it is lol

Yeah. Dappy argued with Luisa like a tool, but when he was with Jasmine he was respectful towards her. It wasn't until Luisa got aggressive where he turned into an idiot :laugh:

[flamingGalah!]

They are both as vile as each other & equally sluttish, but Dopey does have a good point...

[Z]

He has two kids? Hardly been a role model to them either tbh.

Yeah I didn't realise that at the time of posting, changes my entire perspective of the argument. I think Dappy is a hypocrite. He thinks it's okay for men to be sleazy to some extent; he knows it's wrong but he thinks men are allowed to "get it out of their system" before they grow up. In his mind, women are supposed to be respectable and shouldn't be sleeping around - I think his comments to Luisa were intended to be a sort of wake up call that she has a daughter and she shouldn't be sleeping around, maybe because on some level he feels that he shouldn't be sleeping around and setting a good example to his boys... but whatever his reasons for shouting at her, I still think he made a good point, one that both he and Luisa should bear in mind in the future.