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Jake.
11-01-2014, 11:53 AM
'Big Brother was forced to break up a fight in the Celebrity Big Brother house last night as Dappy and Luisa Zissman went head to head.
The drama all happened before yesterday’s live eviction, starting in the early evening with Dappy clashing with Luisa and Jasmine Waltz over apparently sexist comments he made against women.
Luisa and Dappy had a slanging match but things calmed down and seemed to be over.
However, Dappy wasn’t happy with one thing in particular Luisa said in their earlier argument.
The Apprentice star had remarked: “Your mum should be ashamed with your attitude to women, I bet she’d be absolutely disgusted and I think the nation watching this now would be in complete agreement with me.”
Dappy went back to Luisa to try and bring her up on the comments about his mum, but she brushed him and his “low IQ” off.
Challenging Luisa to an IQ test, Dappy bragged: “I’d beat you, I got an A+ in English, an A+ in Maths and a B in music, what did you get, an A in stuck up?”
Luisa complained to Linda in the bedroom that Dappy was “harassing” her, claiming that he was “following” her around the house and being intimidating.
In the kitchen and as Luisa waited to enter the Diary Room things got very heated with Luisa screaming at the N-Dubz star: “If you come near me one more time… ”
Holding a bottle in her hand and threatening to throw it at Dappy, Luisa added: “Quit following me around the house… ****** off!”
She later confided in some of the other housemates: “I really hope that I get evicted tonight, I can’t stay in the same space as someone like that.”
Big Brother stepped in to try and split the warring pair up but an upset Luisa rushed to the bathroom to sob about the argument which by now had got the whole house involved in some way.
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Can't wait for tonights show :laugh:
Jemal
11-01-2014, 11:58 AM
Lmao
Livia
11-01-2014, 11:58 AM
Luisa described herself as having "a brain like Einstein". Hilarious... she's just a big gob packed inside a bundle of self-confidence, and before she starts claiming others have a low IQ she ought to take a good, long, hard look at herself.
Tonight's show is going to be brilliant
MeMyselfAndI
11-01-2014, 12:07 PM
Luisa clearly does not have a low IQ, shes well spoken & fully literate, unlike Dappy.
She also has good instincts, ideas, a very good under pressure & is a fast, logical thinker, aswell as being good at public speaking. She was very good on the apprentice, I actually disliked her for being so bold & controlling, but she proved herself too Lord Sugar too come 2nd out of thousands of applicants
coolface
11-01-2014, 12:09 PM
nice, proper drama, pls no more of the showmance crap
Scream
11-01-2014, 12:10 PM
BB is so good this year :D
And we are in to the rowing! :dance:
Luisa described herself as having "a brain like Einstein". Hilarious... she's just a big gob packed inside a bundle of self-confidence, and before she starts claiming others have a low IQ she ought to take a good, long, hard look at herself.
She's got such a superiority complex. I keep saying it but that's because I keep seeing it in the things she says. She tells Dappy “your mum should be ashamed with your attitude to women, I bet she’d be absolutely disgusted and I think the nation watching this now would be in complete agreement with me.” She tries to put him down by talking about intelligence. She doesn't admit she's been offensive when she uses the term OAPs in front of Lionel and Jim who were pissed off with what she said. Nasty woman, but a really interesting housemate, hope we get to see her melt down a few more times, it's great watching someone so unaware of how their actions are perceived continue to make an arse of herself!
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 01:44 PM
She's got such a superiority complex. I keep saying it but that's because I keep seeing it in the things she says. She tells Dappy “your mum should be ashamed with your attitude to women, I bet she’d be absolutely disgusted and I think the nation watching this now would be in complete agreement with me.” She tries to put him down by talking about intelligence. She doesn't admit she's been offensive when she uses the term OAPs in front of Lionel and Jim who were pissed off with what she said. Nasty woman, but a really interesting housemate, hope we get to see her melt down a few more times, it's great watching someone so unaware of how their actions are perceived continue to make an arse of herself!:joker: Agree. I want people to call her out and watch her squirm
Jemal
11-01-2014, 01:49 PM
She's got such a superiority complex. I keep saying it but that's because I keep seeing it in the things she says. She tells Dappy “your mum should be ashamed with your attitude to women, I bet she’d be absolutely disgusted and I think the nation watching this now would be in complete agreement with me.” She tries to put him down by talking about intelligence. She doesn't admit she's been offensive when she uses the term OAPs in front of Lionel and Jim who were pissed off with what she said. Nasty woman, but a really interesting housemate, hope we get to see her melt down a few more times, it's great watching someone so unaware of how their actions are perceived continue to make an arse of herself!
Ah greg your upping your game:laugh:
Good post in all seriousness.
That's because Luisa got aggressive :idc:
Kazanne
11-01-2014, 02:00 PM
If Dappy had lunged at her with a kettle or whatever it was,he'de have got slaughtered on here.
Luisa's family must be so proud of her too!
And they better show this on the hl's rather than the full show about this daft love triangle.
And they better show this on the hl's rather than the full show about this daft love triangle.
I'll be livid if they don't show this in favour of that lot!
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 02:09 PM
I hope they edit it properly and dont just show Dappy being aggressive. From what I saw Luisa was probably more threatening of the two.
I hope they edit it properly and dont just show Dappy being aggressive. From what I saw Luisa was probably more threatening of the two.
Yeah I don't want the edit to just show him causing an argument, I want to see her meltdown too!
Northern Monkey
11-01-2014, 02:59 PM
I'm actually finding her entertaining now,I think she started on Dappy deliberately though to get her own story line since she could'nt get much air time with the love triangle,God knows she kept trying to get involved.
I'm actually finding her entertaining now,I think she started on Dappy deliberately though to get her own story line since she could'nt get much air time with the love triangle,God knows she kept trying to get involved.
Quite possibly, but in all honesty I don't think any of the housemates are actively playing a game other than Linda who is clearly trying to provoke Jim, think the rest of them are being quite genuine in their bratty behaviour. Could maybe argue that Sam and Ollie are choosing to sit back and keep quiet as a game plan too.
Brother Leon
11-01-2014, 03:03 PM
Good stuff. The least we see of Lee and Casey, the better.
alex_front2
11-01-2014, 03:04 PM
Luisa described herself as having "a brain like Einstein". Hilarious... she's just a big gob packed inside a bundle of self-confidence, and before she starts claiming others have a low IQ she ought to take a good, long, hard look at herself.
Ah, yes you and your female solidarity you love to go on about. #feministsolidarity. :joker:
Scream
11-01-2014, 03:10 PM
Would Luisa have got kicked out/got a warning if she threw water over Dappy?
Luisa clearly does not have a low IQ, shes well spoken & fully literate, unlike Dappy.
She also has good instincts, ideas, a very good under pressure & is a fast, logical thinker, aswell as being good at public speaking. She was very good on the apprentice, I actually disliked her for being so bold & controlling, but she proved herself too Lord Sugar too come 2nd out of thousands of applicants
I agree. I don't like her much but she's a smart cookie. Dappy on the other hand showed how lacking in the brain department he is, not least because he didn't know when he was beaten. He was like a little boy having a tantrum.
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 03:15 PM
I agree. I don't like her much but she's a smart cookie. Dappy on the other hand showed how lacking in the brain department he is, not least because he didn't know when he was beaten. He was like a little boy having a tantrum.BEaten? When did that happen? I saw her try and pour water over him, I saw her try to play the victim and claim he was harassing her, I saw her try to make him feel bad about being voted fakest HM even though she was totally unaware that was a made up poll. When did she beat him?
Jemal
11-01-2014, 03:16 PM
BEaten? When did that happen? I saw her try and pour water over him, I saw her try to play the victim and claim he was harassing her, I saw her try to make him feel bad about being voted fakest HM even though she was totally unaware that was a made up poll. When did she beat him?
!
Pete.
11-01-2014, 03:17 PM
luisa > dappy anyday
Gonnorhoea>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dappy/Luisa
Pete.
11-01-2014, 03:21 PM
Gonnorhoea>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dappy/Luisa
:suspect:
BEaten? When did that happen? I saw her try and pour water over him, I saw her try to play the victim and claim he was harassing her, I saw her try to make him feel bad about being voted fakest HM even though she was totally unaware that was a made up poll. When did she beat him?
She beat him with her superior powers of debate and argument.
Celebrity Fight Night I! :amazed:
Gonnorhoea>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dappy/Luisa
You would know :smug:
im joking don't hurt me
She beat him with her superior powers of debate and argument.
She avoided answering his questions and instead tried to belittle him and then turned into a screaming wreck because she couldn't handle him whatsoever.
She avoided answering his questions and instead tried to belittle him and then turned into a screaming wreck because she couldn't handle him whatsoever.
It's funny how we all perceive things differently. I seen Dappy trying to wriggle out of what he said and then having a tantrum because she didn't want to discuss it anymore. He kept harassing her and that made her lose her temper.
I actually prefer Dappy to Luisa, I'm just saying what I seen happening in this instance.
Oh I saw that too - Dappy backtracked and then kept pushing her into arguing with him; but I wouldn't say she beat him at all... she tried to avoid engaging in conversation with him to show some kind of superiority (comments about his IQ and his mother) and then completely lost control and was screaming at him; not the actions of someone who wanted to avoid a conflict and considered herself above it, but rather someone trying to be better than someone else and failing because she isn't.
You would know :smug:
im joking don't hurt me
So would yer maw
this is a light hearted scottish jibe meaning "so does your mum" take no offence please
Oh I saw that too - Dappy backtracked and then kept pushing her into arguing with him; but I wouldn't say she beat him at all... she tried to avoid engaging in conversation with him to show some kind of superiority (comments about his IQ and his mother) and then completely lost control and was screaming at him; not the actions of someone who wanted to avoid a conflict and considered herself above it, but rather someone trying to be better than someone else and failing because she isn't.
Well, he was showing a limited ability to debate intelligently...
MrWong
11-01-2014, 04:11 PM
BEaten? When did that happen? I saw her try and pour water over him, I saw her try to play the victim and claim he was harassing her, I saw her try to make him feel bad about being voted fakest HM even though she was totally unaware that was a made up poll. When did she beat him?
When he backtracked. Then when that was pointed out he lied and said he hadn't backtracked at all. Game over at that point I'm afraid.
daniel-lewis-1985
11-01-2014, 04:14 PM
Why are all the online newspapers only showing part 2 of the argument and not the part where Dappy calls women slags.
This just makes Luisa look like a stuck up cow for no reason.
Well, he was showing a limited ability to debate intelligently...
And she didn't show any ability to debate at all, she avoided it, used insults and then lost her temper. :shrug:
MrWong
11-01-2014, 04:37 PM
Why are all the online newspapers only showing part 2 of the argument and not the part where Dappy calls women slags.
This just makes Luisa look like a stuck up cow for no reason.
That doesn't bode well for the editing of tonights highlights.
And she didn't show any ability to debate at all, she avoided it, used insults and then lost her temper. :shrug:
She did at first, but quickly sussed out that Dappy wasn't up to it so she tried to avoid any further argument.
Kazanne
11-01-2014, 04:47 PM
Gonnorhoea>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dappy/Luisa
:shocked::joker:
She did at first, but quickly sussed out that Dappy wasn't up to it so she tried to avoid any further argument.
I didn't interpret it like that at all... intrigued to see more :hugesmile:!
I didn't interpret it like that at all... intrigued to see more :hugesmile:!
I know! Things like this are more interesting than a stupid showmance. :hugesmile:
So would yer maw
this is a light hearted scottish jibe meaning "so does your mum" take no offence please
Umm can you stop speaking scottish and speak english?! :smug:
This is also a joke, I love scotland and i'm quarter scottish!
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 06:10 PM
She beat him with her superior powers of debate and argument.
I see. Are those the superior powers that made her come close to throwing water over him. She was far more rattled than him in the argument so I dont see where she showed any superiority.
EDIt: And what was all that bollox about his agent telling him to keep his mouth shut? She was struggling, scratching and clawing in order to get the upper hand. I didnt see any superiority.
MrWong
11-01-2014, 06:23 PM
When someone backtracks and lies during an argument it's infuriating.
Nearly throwing water on someone who does that is understandable, especially when that someone continues to lie and backtrack whilst stalking you around the house.
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 06:28 PM
When someone backtracks and lies during an argument it's infuriating.
Nearly throwing water on someone who does that is understandable, especially when that someone continues to lie and backtrack whilst stalking you around the house.
WHen someone brings up a poll saying you're the fakest HM but that person doesn't realize it a fake poll, that infuriating but lets be honest its also very desperate. When someone escalates a simple discussion between the double standard of men and women sleeping around and start claiming that a HM's mum would be ashamed, again infuriating but also desperate.
Livia
11-01-2014, 06:41 PM
Ah, yes you and your female solidarity you love to go on about. #feministsolidarity. :joker:
I'd really appreciate a link to where I've ever gone on about 'female solidarity'. Go on... one link to where I've said females should stick together regardless. One link where I've backed someone who's clearly an idiot just because she's female.
Waiting....
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2014, 06:45 PM
Watched it last night, Im no fan of Luisas but got to agree with her Dappy was following her from room to room shouting down at her, he was bullying her, I know shes got a mouth like the Mersey Tunnel, but he was intimidating her, and hes so bright, his A levels changed everytime he shouted out what he had got ,Horrid little man
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:00 PM
WHen someone brings up a poll saying you're the fakest HM but that person doesn't realize it a fake poll, that infuriating but lets be honest its also very desperate. When someone escalates a simple discussion between the double standard of men and women sleeping around and start claiming that a HM's mum would be ashamed, again infuriating but also desperate.
It escalated because he backtracked and when she called him out on that he lied.
He then started asking Luisa how many men she'd slept with in one night (which is irrelevant) then repeated the pig/***** thing that still sounds sexist because he seems to think being a pig is better than being a *****.
It might help to watch the clips again.
Livia
11-01-2014, 07:05 PM
WHen someone brings up a poll saying you're the fakest HM but that person doesn't realize it a fake poll, that infuriating but lets be honest its also very desperate. When someone escalates a simple discussion between the double standard of men and women sleeping around and start claiming that a HM's mum would be ashamed, again infuriating but also desperate.
I'm with you on this one.
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 07:09 PM
It escalated because he backtracked and when she called him out on that he lied.
He then started asking Luisa how many men she'd slept with in one night (which is irrelevant) then repeated the pig/***** thing that still sounds sexist because he seems to think being a pig is better than being a *****.
It might help to watch the clips again.Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.
The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.
Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.
The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.
:worship:
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:16 PM
Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.
The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.
The discussion was fine until he backtracked.
btw I wasn't being patronizing. I viewed the clips again myself just to be sure.
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 07:16 PM
The discussion was fine until he backtracked.
The discussion was fine until Luisa stuck her big nose in. We can do this all night if you want.
Livia
11-01-2014, 07:16 PM
The discussion was fine until he backtracked.
GiRTh is the only one of the two of you who seems to have watched it right through.
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:18 PM
The discussion was fine until Luisa stuck her big nose in. We can do this all night if you want.
She can't join in a discussion now?
It ended briefly with them having a laugh.
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:19 PM
GiRTh is the only one of the two of you who seems to have watched it right through.
It was a brief overview.
What bit was wrong?
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 07:20 PM
She can't join in a discussion now?
It ended briefly with them having a laugh.Of course she can join n a discussion but if she want to make accusations and try and look good then she must be called on those actions.
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:21 PM
Of course she can join n a discussion but if she want to make accusations and try and look good then she must be called on those actions.
Not sure what you mean here. Called on what actions?
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 07:22 PM
Not sure what you mean here. Called on what actions? I think its clear from the vid but would you like me to enlighten you?
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:26 PM
I think its clear from the vid but would you like me to enlighten you?
Yes it would help to further the discussion.
It seems like you're saying Dappy called her out on something and i was trying to remember if that even happened.
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 07:30 PM
Yes it would help to further the discussion.
It seems like you're saying Dappy called her out on something and i was trying to remember if that even happened.I think you're well aware of what I'm saying due to your limited view of the situation.
MrWong
11-01-2014, 07:35 PM
I think you're well aware of what I'm saying due to your limited view of the situation.
Repeating the words "ho, ho, ho, ho, ho" probably didn't help the situation either.
Brother Leon
11-01-2014, 07:40 PM
The debate was fine between Jasmine and Dappy. Jasmine told him he couldn't say that as a fact and Dappy even apologised if Jasmine was offended in anyway and they were pretty much over it. It was Luisa that needlessly made it aggressive and personal only for her to cry about Harassment when he bit back.
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 07:42 PM
Repeating the words "ho, ho, ho, ho, ho" probably didn't help the situation either.I thought they were as bad as each other and both should be ashamed.
Luisa is amazing :lovedup:
Jemal
11-01-2014, 07:57 PM
Im not defending dappy at all.
Im still tryna wonder how people are defending luisa....
When shes the one that went personal.
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2014, 08:23 PM
Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.
The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.
I agree ,she escalated it ,and pardon me if Im wrong ,but I thought she had told him and Jasmine SHE had slept with 5 men in one night :conf: ,Shes told the world and its dog all about her seedy sex life, but when someone tells her its not big,and its not clever, she didnt like it ,He was following her around making himself look a total tw@ ,lieing about how brainy hes is (so brainy he couldnt even remember what A levels he got :huh::umm2: ) If you share your details with the world,you have to expect someone to comment on it
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2014, 08:24 PM
I thought they were as bad as each other and both should be ashamed.
EQUALLY as bad as each other
GiRTh
11-01-2014, 08:28 PM
EQUALLY as bad as each otherYes. I find it hard to pick as I cant stand either of them. Dappy's comments were indeed sexist but there was never any need for Luisa to bring his family in to the discussion. Thats when he became heated. The conversation IMO never had to go there unless of course Luisa saw it as an opportunity to score a few point with the public and make Dappy look bad. In the end I think they ended up looking as bad as each other.
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2014, 08:32 PM
Yes. I find it hard to pick as I cant stand either of them. Dappy's comments were indeed sexist but there was never any need for Luisa to bring his family in to the discussion. Thats when he became heated. The conversation IMO never had to go there unless of course Luisa saw it as an opportunity to score a few point with the public and make Dappy look bad. In the end I think they ended up looking as bad as each other.
Yes they did, I just wanted her to throw the water at him, she would have been removed if she had ,and no doubt little big man would have thrown something back ,so he would have gone too A* in English ,but he cannot even talk it !! Idiot
Jake.
11-01-2014, 11:42 PM
Thing is I know where Luisa is coming from. I don't agree with bringing in family members, but I know 100% that if I referred to a woman as a *****/slag and made the same sexist comments which he did to begin with... well, think it's fair to say that I'd be making my own dinners for a while. Whilst not being in the right, she was correct.. his female members would (and should) probably be appalled, because that just isn't how you speak to a woman. On the flip side, I completely agree that both were in the wrong, and neither came off looking good.
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