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Videostar
11-01-2014, 09:11 PM
It was actually Luisa who carried it on by talking about Dappy and his comments later on in the kitchen, that was the thing that flared it all up again.

reece(:
11-01-2014, 09:12 PM
When she was wanting him to leave her alone...

Benjamin
11-01-2014, 09:13 PM
He did keep following her around :laugh:

Videostar
11-01-2014, 09:17 PM
When she was wanting him to leave her alone...

Yep, it was a funny way of going about it. :joker:

Northern Monkey
11-01-2014, 09:17 PM
It was actually Luisa who carried it on by talking about Dappy and his comments later on in the kitchen, that was the thing that flared it all up again.

Yep,She started going on about "the chauvanists"(sorry for the spelling on that) in the house deliberately so Dappy would hear it.Then has the cheek to say "leave me alone now" when it got too much for her.If she can't take it back she should've kept her mouth shut instead of flaring it back up again.

Donovan.
11-01-2014, 09:20 PM
Well I mean you're hardly going to stay quiet when somebody's following you around the house. It would just make the situation more uncomfortable.

Videostar
11-01-2014, 09:24 PM
Well I mean you're hardly going to stay quiet when somebody's following you around the house. It would just make the situation more uncomfortable.

But he wasn't following her around then, things had calmed down, before she started the whole thing up again, yes Dappy went on and on in the end, but she lit the blue touch paper earlier when it would have been forgotten.

Videostar
11-01-2014, 09:24 PM
Yep,She started going on about "the chauvanists"(sorry for the spelling on that) in the house deliberately so Dappy would hear it.Then has the cheek to say "leave me alone now" when it got too much for her.If she can't take it back she should've kept her mouth shut instead of flaring it back up again.

She would be a nightmare to argue with, she must have the last word. :nono:

Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2014, 09:26 PM
do you always have the absolute worst opinions ever or what

reece(:
11-01-2014, 09:27 PM
do you always have the absolute worst opinions ever or what
You better stan

GiRTh
11-01-2014, 09:30 PM
How dare she speak to Lionel like that. She's just too familiar.

Kizzy
11-01-2014, 09:31 PM
Yep,She started going on about "the chauvanists"(sorry for the spelling on that) in the house deliberately so Dappy would hear it.Then has the cheek to say "leave me alone now" when it got too much for her.If she can't take it back she should've kept her mouth shut instead of flaring it back up again.

Yep.

Northern Monkey
11-01-2014, 09:32 PM
She would be a nightmare to argue with, she must have the last word. :nono:

Yes,Me and her would'nt last very long,She loves a good old barney.I am finding her quite entertaining though now.

Pete.
11-01-2014, 09:36 PM
We're you even watching? Dappy was ****ing stalking her into the bedroom and being a nosey bastard and listening to her DR conversation to find fault to argue about

LaLaLand
11-01-2014, 09:36 PM
Not at all, he was clearly harassing her!

Jemal
11-01-2014, 09:37 PM
When she was washing the plates she originally brought it up lol

Northern Monkey
11-01-2014, 09:40 PM
When she was washing the plates she originally brought it up lol

Yes,There was no need to bring it back up.

Pete.
11-01-2014, 09:41 PM
When she was washing the plates she originally brought it up lol
No Dappy said something about IQ. I'm sorry jemal you can't justify him this time

Jemal
11-01-2014, 09:46 PM
No Dappy said something about IQ. I'm sorry jemal you can't justify him this time

Justify who?
When dappy and evander were eating, luisa tried to whisper that dappy is a chauvinistic pig... And dappy heard it which is what sparked up the arguement.
Just saying facts lol

Ammi
11-01-2014, 09:48 PM
..yeah, I would say that it was definitely Luisa who caused it to be enflamed the way it was but they both acted like idiots..

letmein
11-01-2014, 09:51 PM
How many warnings has Dappy received? How many warnings has Luisa received?

Case closed.

Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2014, 09:53 PM
Justify who?
When dappy and evander were eating, luisa tried to whisper that dappy is a chauvinistic pig... And dappy heard it which is what sparked up the arguement.
Just saying facts lol

and he is a chauvinistic pig so,

Josy
11-01-2014, 09:55 PM
He did keep following her around :laugh:

He wasn't following her around when she started it back up he was eating his dinner and overheard her bitching about him, that's when he said 'what did you say there repeat that' and then it all started again.

Can see right through people like her, bitch and argue then accuse someone of harassing, bullying her then look for sympathy from others like she did when Jim said it takes two to clap and then when all else fails run off crying.

Drew.
11-01-2014, 09:57 PM
He wasn't following her around when she started it back up he was eating his dinner and overheard her bitching about him, that's when he said 'what did you say there repeat that' and then it all started again.

Can see right through people like her, bitch and argue then accuse someone of harassing, bullying her then look for sympathy from others like she did when Jim said it takes two to clap and then when all else fails run off crying.

great post

Z
11-01-2014, 09:58 PM
He wasn't following her around when she started it back up he was eating his dinner and overheard her bitching about him, that's when he said 'what did you say there repeat that' and then it all started again.

Can see right through people like her, bitch and argue then accuse someone of harassing, bullying her then look for sympathy from others like she did when Jim said it takes two to clap and then when all else fails run off crying.

Yep. Dappy was definitely following her around looking to finish the argument off with her and she kept taking it a step further and then attempting to wash her hands of it. She should have just calmly either apologised or explained herself when he was pressing her for why she brought his mum or his IQ into it instead of moaning about how he was harassing her. No self awareness - Dappy just wanted closure on it. But ignoring the argument; Dappy was in the wrong and I don't think Luisa could let that go, which is why she didn't deal with the conflict well.

Videostar
11-01-2014, 09:58 PM
and he is a chauvinistic pig so,

But why randomly bring it up when they are eating dinner then be annoyed that Dappy didn't like the comment? that's like murdering someone in front of the police and being p*ssed off when they arrest you.

Jemal
11-01-2014, 10:00 PM
But why randomly bring it up when they are eating dinner then be annoyed that Dappy didn't like the comment? that's like murdering someone in front of the police and being p*ssed off when they arrest you.

THISSSS

sassysocks
11-01-2014, 10:03 PM
How many warnings has Dappy received? How many warnings has Luisa received?

Case closed.

Dappy should have been warned about his offensive sexist remarks, what century is the little wee moron living in?

Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2014, 10:04 PM
But why randomly bring it up when they are eating dinner then be annoyed that Dappy didn't like the comment? that's like murdering someone in front of the police and being p*ssed off when they arrest you.

That's actually nothing like that but nice try

Josy
11-01-2014, 10:05 PM
Dappy should have been warned about his offensive sexist remarks, what century is the little wee moron living in?

Luisa should have been given a warning for going to throw the water at him, that's an act of aggression, or was that ok for her to do because she's a woman and Dappy's a guy?

Videostar
11-01-2014, 10:10 PM
That's actually nothing like that but nice try

But im sure you see the point im making, if she didn't want anymore of that argument then why whisper or bitch about that person within earshot? it's a rather silly and sh*t stirring thing to do.

Videostar
11-01-2014, 10:12 PM
Then Luisa says that Dappy shouldn't talk to a woman like that, I thought she was all about men and women being equal.

Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2014, 10:13 PM
But im sure you see the point im making, if she didn't want anymore of that argument then why whisper or bitch about that person within earshot? it's a rather silly and sh*t stirring thing to do.

You have Speidi as your favorites for CBB11 and all they did is whisper and bitch :joker:

Videostar
11-01-2014, 10:17 PM
You have Speidi as your favorites for CBB11 and all they did is whisper and bitch :joker:

Yes, but not within earshot of the person they were bitching about, at least they weren't hypocrites,.

Luisa can't then claim that she wanted Dappy to leave her alone after she kept bitching about him near enough for him to hear her, that's the point.

What that suggests is that she doesn't want to argue with anyone unless it's on her terms, and she must at all times have to have the last word, and she seems to think she has the right to bitch about others even if they can hear her and they have no right to be rather displeased with her. :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2014, 10:19 PM
Right, they just clap in front of someone when they don't get their letter from home and retreat back to their bedroom to bitch about everyone being mad at them, my bad :joker: bye

Videostar
11-01-2014, 10:21 PM
Right, they just clap in front of someone when they don't get their letter from home and retreat back to their bedroom to bitch about everyone being mad at them, my bad :joker: bye

If you can't see the difference between Speidi's bitching and Luisa's rather bizarre behaviour then we'll never come to an agreement. :xyxwave:

Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2014, 10:23 PM
So bizarre for someone to be complaining about someone they just had an argument with. Bizarre indeed.

Videostar
11-01-2014, 10:29 PM
So bizarre for someone to be complaining about someone they just had an argument with. Bizarre indeed.

If you are going to bitch ABOUT someone but don't want that argument to continue wouldn't it be better to do it away from that person so that they can't overhear you, like Speidi did?

Northern Monkey
11-01-2014, 10:36 PM
But im sure you see the point im making, if she didn't want anymore of that argument then why whisper or bitch about that person within earshot? it's a rather silly and sh*t stirring thing to do.

Exactly,Then when she stirred it up she says she does'nt want to argue anymore.lol,Don't talk sh*t then if you don't wanna argue.If i went up to Evander and called him a ***** i could'nt exactly complain when he turned me inside out.lol

MarcusMel
11-01-2014, 11:36 PM
The edit makes it look like Luisa started it by using the word Chauvinist but given the way Dappy behaved following the remark I suspect that he had also been doing background comments before she used the word. Given that Dappy has status issues it probably annoyed Dappy more that he did not know the meaning of the word Chauvinist and felt he had to hit back somehow.

With BB one should never believe what they show the public as being truth just their BB truth.

daniel-lewis-1985
12-01-2014, 12:12 AM
But he wasn't following her around then, things had calmed down, before she started the whole thing up again, yes Dappy went on and on in the end, but she lit the blue touch paper earlier when it would have been forgotten.

He had been following her before that. The edit was bad.

He was also shouting insults from the table first.

Go to the sticky CBB clips for confirmation.

jet
12-01-2014, 12:27 AM
We're you even watching? Dappy was ****ing stalking her into the bedroom and being a nosey bastard and listening to her DR conversation to find fault to argue about

They like their own version better. :hugesmile:

Redway
12-01-2014, 12:39 AM
Dappy was the one stalking her and listening in on her diary room entry. She only told him to piss off after a while.

newsbb
12-01-2014, 12:58 AM
he got an A+ on English thou

daniel-lewis-1985
12-01-2014, 01:18 AM
Luisa should have been given a warning for going to throw the water at him, that's an act of aggression, or was that ok for her to do because she's a woman and Dappy's a guy?

But she didn't do it so....

Case closed

Jake.
12-01-2014, 01:20 AM
Actually had he of taken her advice and left her alone, it probably would have been left to defuse long before.. not that I'm complaining though :laugh:

Jake.
12-01-2014, 01:21 AM
If you are going to bitch ABOUT someone but don't want that argument to continue wouldn't it be better to do it away from that person so that they can't overhear you, like Speidi did?

In the diary room you mean? Because she wasn't even safe in there lol :laugh:

daniel-lewis-1985
12-01-2014, 01:23 AM
Then Luisa says that Dappy shouldn't talk to a woman like that, I thought she was all about men and women being equal.

She was talking about his views on women.

Him saying its ok for men to sleep around but it makes the woman a ***** if she did the same.

When Jasmine confronted him and asked why he said women are supposed to be and act a certain way....He then butted in because they are supposed to.....Jasmine stops him in his tracks.

How can anyone deny hes a sexist little bigot.

Videostar
12-01-2014, 01:29 AM
She was talking about his views on women.

Him saying its ok for men to sleep around but it makes the woman a ***** if she did the same.

When Jasmine confronted him and asked why he said women are supposed to be and act a certain way....He then butted in because they are supposed to.....Jasmine stops him in his tracks.

How can anyone deny he isn't a sexist little bigot.

His views are stupid (theres no doubt about that) and im not agreeing with him on his views, we are just talking about how the argument happened and that Luisa was foolish as well.

Shes the one banging on (excuse the expression) about how many men shes shagged in one night, shouldn't she really keep that to herself? it's not something to be proud of but she acts like it's a badge of honour...strong women don't behave like her.

Kizzy
12-01-2014, 01:30 AM
But she didn't do it so....

Case closed

So? Neil Ruddock got a warning for aggressive posturing to spiedi, she did intimate throwing the water?

Redway
12-01-2014, 01:30 AM
How can anyone deny he isn't a sexist little bigot.

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Videostar
12-01-2014, 01:30 AM
In the diary room you mean? Because she wasn't even safe in there lol :laugh:

No, in the kitchen earlier that evening, he didn't need to do much to overhear her slagging him off to all comers. :joker:

Jake.
12-01-2014, 01:32 AM
Deana actually chucked water in the direction of a housemate (Arron I think?) in BB13 and wasn't warned, so I don't see the problem. Let's have no warnings for stuff like that because it fizzles out the interesting stuff lol.

Jake.
12-01-2014, 01:34 AM
No, in the kitchen earlier that evening, he didn't need to do much to overhear her slagging him off to all comers. :joker:

Yeah, it was only what she had already called him tbf, I suppose where I'm not a woman I can't appreciate her view as much but being told that you will never be equal to a man would probably anger you.

Videostar
12-01-2014, 01:41 AM
Deana actually chucked water in the direction of a housemate (Arron I think?) in BB13 and wasn't warned, so I don't see the problem. Let's have no warnings for stuff like that because it fizzles out the interesting stuff lol.

The same could be said for what Evander said (about gays being "fixed") should he get a warning for that? should that HM (Emily) I think her name was, get thrown out for quoting a rap song where the N word was used? where does it stop...im not sure.

Videostar
12-01-2014, 01:44 AM
Yeah, it was only what she had already called him tbf, I suppose where I'm not a woman I can't appreciate her view as much but being told that you will never be equal to a man would probably anger you.

It was Evander who said that, but im not sure he meant that Women aren't equal to men in general, just that men and women aren't equal in everything in life...people in life male/male , /male/female, female/female aren't always equal in certain situations.

Oh this is getting deep now.

daniel-lewis-1985
12-01-2014, 01:45 AM
So? Neil Ruddock got a warning for aggressive posturing to spiedi, she did intimate throwing the water?

Going to throw a plastic cup over someone is not the same as threatening someone then jumping over the table towards them in aggression.

Seriously since last summer the Daley and Hazel situation all people do now is spout out stuff about aggression when they really don't know when that term applies to something.

Neil Rudock was also INTIMIDATING that's why he got the warning, then again little Dappy was probably intimidated by that big cup of water.

Jake.
12-01-2014, 01:48 AM
It was Evander who said that, but im not sure he meant that Women aren't equal to men in general, just that men and women aren't equal in everything in life...people in life male/male , /male/female, female/female aren't always equal in certain situations.

Oh this is getting deep now.

I know, she was referring to them both in the kitchen though, not just Dappy. I get what you mean but it does boil down to sexism, and as women I'm not suprised that they didn't take to the initial comments well, I wouldn't

daniel-lewis-1985
12-01-2014, 01:48 AM
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Edited

daniel-lewis-1985
12-01-2014, 01:50 AM
The same could be said for what Evander said (about gays being "fixed") should he get a warning for that? should that HM (Emily) I think her name was, get thrown out for quoting a rap song where the N word was used? where does it stop...im not sure.

That was pretty bad to be fair lol.

I don't believe in warnings though just let it roll.

Videostar
12-01-2014, 01:50 AM
I know, she was referring to them both in the kitchen though, not just Dappy. I get what you mean but it does boil down to sexism, and as women I'm not suprised that they didn't take to the initial comments well, I wouldn't

But Jasmine let it go and moved on, Luisa just wanted to carry it on.

Having said that, Evander let it go too while Nappy didn't.

Two very opinionated people who aren't very bright wouldn't let the thing drop. :joker:

Videostar
12-01-2014, 01:51 AM
That was pretty bad to be fair lol.

I don't believe in warnings though just let it roll.

Totally agree on both points. :thumbs:

Jake.
12-01-2014, 01:52 AM
It all boils down to a clash of personalities, Luisa and Dappy are probably a bit more alike than what they like to believe lol

Ammi
12-01-2014, 03:50 AM
..I think that although they were sexist comments, they were just having a conversation about them, until Luisa started to talk about Dappy and stir it all up so that it became an argument...

Jords
12-01-2014, 03:59 AM
Dont be ridiculous Dappy was following Luisa all over the place!

Anyhow, I thought it was really good on both behalves that they were able to make up on the same day. Entertaining argument.

Northern Monkey
12-01-2014, 09:05 AM
Lets be real!It all boils down to Luissa wanting her own story line instead of unsuccessfully piggy backing the love triangle like she was doing before.She turned a conversation into a shouting match in the first place and then deliberately flared it all back up in the kitchen when it was done with,Then she cowers off saying she does'nt want to argue to try and make Nappy look bad.She's a desperate fame ***** and anyone with half a brain can see straight through it #realtalk

wendywillow
12-01-2014, 12:17 PM
and dappy just couldn't take his (ever changing) grades being demeaned

muchadoaboutnothing
12-01-2014, 01:34 PM
Yep,She started going on about "the chauvanists"(sorry for the spelling on that) in the house deliberately so Dappy would hear it.Then has the cheek to say "leave me alone now" when it got too much for her.If she can't take it back she should've kept her mouth shut instead of flaring it back up again.

Absolutely spot on and then to bring his mother into it. She thinks she is a cut above Dappy and a few of the others. She is just a jumped up nobody.

sassysocks
12-01-2014, 01:44 PM
Absolutely spot on and then to bring his mother into it. She thinks she is a cut above Dappy and a few of the others. She is just a jumped up nobody.

And he thinks he is a cut above women, sit well with you does it, it certainly doesn't with me. He is a jumped up rapper with hypocritcal bigoted views about women, nothing more.

Niamh.
13-01-2014, 09:21 AM
Yep. Dappy was definitely following her around looking to finish the argument off with her and she kept taking it a step further and then attempting to wash her hands of it. She should have just calmly either apologised or explained herself when he was pressing her for why she brought his mum or his IQ into it instead of moaning about how he was harassing her. No self awareness - Dappy just wanted closure on it. But ignoring the argument; Dappy was in the wrong and I don't think Luisa could let that go, which is why she didn't deal with the conflict well.

Yeah, I'd empathize with her alot on this one because it's a bit of a pet peeve for me, the whole attitude of generalizing on gender and sexism/double standards. I would have been livid as well

Z
13-01-2014, 11:45 AM
Yeah, I'd empathize with her alot on this one because it's a bit of a pet peeve for me, the whole attitude of generalizing on gender and sexism/double standards. I would have been livid as well

Yeah I think she was enraged by his views, he was enraged by the fact she wouldn't answer his questions, she was refusing to answer them because she thought he was an idiot and then started belittling his intelligence, he got angrier because of that, she then started bringing his mum into it so he brought her daughter into it... It just escalated because they're both clearly people who aren't used to being told that they are wrong. I think that comes across with Luisa's response to Lionel later on in the evening; and Dappy's clearly never been challenged on his views before either.

Niamh.
13-01-2014, 11:48 AM
Yeah I think she was enraged by his views, he was enraged by the fact she wouldn't answer his questions, she was refusing to answer them because she thought he was an idiot and then started belittling his intelligence, he got angrier because of that, she then started bringing his mum into it so he brought her daughter into it... It just escalated because they're both clearly people who aren't used to being told that they are wrong. I think that comes across with Luisa's response to Lionel later on in the evening; and Dappy's clearly never been challenged on his views before either.

How he's not been challenged on such complete and utter sexism though is beyond me, i guess he surrounds himself with like minded idiots