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[Jessica.]

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[Josy]

This has been asked before, it would mean even less posting on the forum than there is now.

[Z]

I miss the karma system. It was essentially a thanks button - I'd love to see it brought back but with an additional feature that you could see which posts you'd been plussed or minused for. It would be anonymous, so you wouldn't know who had done it (although you might be able to guess) but you would see what people liked and disliked about your posts

[Shaun]

After all the so-called problems with karma (quite tame by today's, or 2010's, standards :laugh:) maybe it'd be better to reintroduce it without the minussing option? (Since that's the only one that could feasibly be abused). Positive karma for posts and so on.

[Benjamin]

After all the so-called problems with karma (quite tame by today's, or 2010's, standards :laugh:) maybe it'd be better to reintroduce it without the minussing option? (Since that's the only one that could feasibly be abused). Positive karma for posts and so on.

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[Josy]

After all the so-called problems with karma (quite tame by today's, or 2010's, standards :laugh:) maybe it'd be better to reintroduce it without the minussing option? (Since that's the only one that could feasibly be abused). Positive karma for posts and so on.

James was thinking of bringing it back a while ago I think, not sure if he still is or not.

[Kate!]

Yes to karma, just positive though as Shaun says. Negging would just cause aggro lol.

[T*]

Can we call it something othe than karma tho

[Jack_]

The option to 'like' posts should have been added a long time ago, so yeah, positive karma only but on a post-by-post basis

And I really disagree with the notion that it would make people post less? :conf: just because I agree with a particular post now it doesn't mean I'll not add my own bits to the discussion

[Jessica.]

Does it really matter if someone clicks "thanks" on a post instead of saying "[2}", not a huge loss. :laugh3:

[Shaun]

Can we call it something othe than karma tho

I'm trying to think of a word like "appreciation" or "value" or "prestige" without it sounding a bit elitist... I'm sure whatever it's called some might moan about that but oh well.

Maybe call it something harmless like 'Post Points' (PP).

[Kate!]

Kudos?

[Jessica.]

This is just a random post from another forum that I spotted while googling something recently.
This is how it works there: Each post has a thank you button as seen on the bottom right, if you click thanks then the button disappears and your name appears underneath the post. Thanks count as the only way to receive karma and there are no negatives. They add to the stars under the names.

http://puu.sh/6jMkW.png

[Jesus.]

Terrible idea. A reputation system should be a reputation system, but setting it up for rep-whoring won't add anything to the forum, especially when the same old faces, are ploughing rep into each other.

[Shaun]

Oh, that could be quite nice I suppose then (Jess.)

[Marc]

The Karma system had it's pros but it could essentially lead to people just targeting certain members and minusing them

[Ramsay]

The thanks system works great on another forum i use

[MTVN]

Don't really like the idea, feel it sorta puts pressure on posting making it more of a contest to see who can get the most 'thanks', would be endlessly abused in any arguments and stuff as well

[Josy]

Don't really like the idea, feel it sorta puts pressure on posting making it more of a contest to see who can get the most 'thanks', would be endlessly abused in any arguments and stuff as well

I agree with that and also don't see that many posts on here that would need a thanks tbh, what would it be used for someone posting a news article, or a video :shrug:

And even at that if you want to say thanks then just post a reply saying that and who knows maybe add a few other words that could lead to worthwhile discussion.

[Jack_]

'Thanks' is definitely the wrong word, it would be a feature used to acknowledge good posts made in threads, so say there's a debate ongoing and someone enters with a post which would usually receive a few '[2]' or 'this' or 'good post', you could + it and show your appreciation. If anything I think it'd encourage people to make better posts and put more thought and effort into them

And if people really did just abuse it by plussing random posts or gifs or whatever idk (not that it would really matter anyway it's just a forum who cares) then get rid of it? It's worth a go, it's only a positive system

[reece(:]

I think it's a great idea, can let people know they're appreciated more

[Me. I Am Salman]

We should have + rating and - rating. don't keep it anonymous and that'll stop people abusing it, and don't make it count towards anything which will further deter people from abusing it

[Jordan.]

I don't really care but I'd use it if it was added.

[Shaun]

Don't really like the idea, feel it sorta puts pressure on posting making it more of a contest to see who can get the most 'thanks', would be endlessly abused in any arguments and stuff as well

isn't it...kind of...your job... to deal with that then...?

also who on earth would really get wound up about it?

[Amy Jade]

Don't see the point, it would probably just turn into just another a popularity thing

[michael21]

So then we don't have to quote a post and say "this" or "[2]" if we don't have anything to add to what was said, I think it would make threads a lot cleaner and it's fun too. :smug:

[2]

[Z]

TiBB was a much calmer place when we had the karma system, we only lost it because of the server change I believe? It wasn't removed because it was causing any problems. There was an hourly limit on it I think, you could only plus or minus one post per hour. The site's fine without it but I think it encouraged people to make better posts when the karma system was around. Would be glad to see it return.

[Josy]

isn't it...kind of...your job... to deal with that then...?

also who on earth would really get wound up about it?

Well no it's not really not if the issue can be avoided in the first place, it's just another good reason why there doesn't need to be a thanks button tbh

For example someone posts a sarcy, condescending comment to another member, others that don't get on with said member likes the post just to bait then when it descends into an argument it's us left to deal with it.

[Jordan.]

Well no it's not really not if the issue can be avoided in the first place, it's just another good reason why there doesn't need to be a thanks button tbh

For example someone posts a sarcy, condescending comment to another member, others that don't get on with said member likes the post just to bait then when it descends into an argument it's us left to deal with it.

I think you're looking at it from a negative point to be honest. That example can just as easily happen without a like system.

[Jessica.]

:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

[Jessica.]

For example someone posts a sarcy, condescending comment to another member, others that don't get on with said member likes the post just to bait then when it descends into an argument it's us left to deal with it.

That happens already with people posting "[2]" or some kind of sassy gif.

[Withano]

This has been asked before, it would mean even less posting on the forum than there is now.

More people would join the forum though.. cos it would be rad

[Jordan.]

:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

-likes-

One of the main problems with this forum is the members hardly ever get listened to. The mods opinion is always correct and final. Chances are this thread will be getting locked soon despite it being a fair debate.

[Ammi]

..I think they have something similar on another forum I'm on...it's a 'reputation system'...I don't think that it's abused in that it's not for any negative/sarcastic etc posts anyway...mind you I think most people forget to use it anyway..well, I do...

[Jessica.]

..I think they have something similar on another forum I'm on...it's a 'reputation system'...I don't think that it's abused in that it's not for any negative/sarcastic etc posts anyway...mind you I think most people forget to use it anyway..well, I do...

Yeah, it works on countless other forums, I don't see why it wouldn't work here.

[Jesus.]

Doesn't really make any sense why it's necessary. Can't people just appreciate good posts without the need for a thumbs up?

It will just become meaningless, and here's why: Stu or Jack or someone could write a really long, well thought out post in serious debates, whereas someone desperately trying to fit the word weave into their post will be in for far more reputation than the good post. It just adds to the dilution of quality.

You'll probably end up with a situation where posters are asking for reputation from others offsite, like they have done for votes in the popularity games on TIBB.

More importantly, it actually sets out a false hierarchy for any new members joining, which won't encourage participation or dissenting opinions.

[Josy]

:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

No need for the first comment in your post Jessica because tbqh that comes across as you getting childish because you can't get your own way.

The fact is a lot of the suggestions from members do get added, the twitter add on, new skins, smileys are a few of the top of my head but there's always something else being requested and just because it works elsewhere and you think it's a great idea for the forum doesn't mean we all have to agree.

I think you're looking at it from a negative point to be honest. That example can just as easily happen without a like system.

That's probably true actually Jordan I just can't think of any real threads/ situations that it would be put to good use on tbh.

And I know some think well we could just remove it again but most don't seem to realise it's not as easy as pressing a butting in the control panel, the thanks button is an addon for vbulletin that would need to be installed by James then tweaked to run on the forum along with all the other addons then if it was to be named something else other than 'thanks' like someone else suggested then it would be the code that would have to be edited.

Atm I just don't see it being something we need on here.

[Niamh.]

:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

Yes, we definitely know that Jess ............. ;)

[Niamh.]

Doesn't really make any sense why it's necessary. Can't people just appreciate good posts without the need for a thumbs up?

It will just become meaningless, and here's why: Stu or Jack or someone could write a really long, well thought out post in serious debates, whereas someone desperately trying to fit the word weave into their post will be in for far more reputation than the good post. It just adds to the dilution of quality.

You'll probably end up with a situation where posters are asking for reputation from others offsite, like they have done for votes in the popularity games on TIBB.

More importantly, it actually sets out a false hierarchy for any new members joining, which won't encourage participation or dissenting opinions.


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[Z]

Doesn't really make any sense why it's necessary. Can't people just appreciate good posts without the need for a thumbs up?

It will just become meaningless, and here's why: Stu or Jack or someone could write a really long, well thought out post in serious debates, whereas someone desperately trying to fit the word weave into their post will be in for far more reputation than the good post. It just adds to the dilution of quality.

You'll probably end up with a situation where posters are asking for reputation from others offsite, like they have done for votes in the popularity games on TIBB.

More importantly, it actually sets out a false hierarchy for any new members joining, which won't encourage participation or dissenting opinions.

Very true also... it worked in the past on TiBB but then perhaps I'm being too optimistic that it would work today - it was a feature that we lost quite a few years ago so it's hard to really remember if it was ever a bad thing, I just remember it being a good thing because you would + posts that you felt added to the discussion and in my mind it encouraged people to make more thoughtful posts... I don't remember any of the bad stuff, perhaps because I want to remember it as a good thing...

[Jordan.]

I can't at how serious some people are taking it, it'd just be fun feature to have on the forum not some sort of competition. People would really care enough to ask for likes offsite? Okay then :huh:

[Vicky.]

I can't at how serious some people are taking it, it'd just be fun feature to have on the forum not some sort of competition. People would really care enough to ask for likes offsite? Okay then :huh:

Yup, I think definitely. Some people are really that sad...

I dont care either way tbh if this happens. Though I can see it being abused Also its not quite as easy as to say 'if people abuse it then take it off' because if we did do that then it would be 'why is everyone losing out because of 3 members' etc etc.

But I dont much care. Dont really see how it would be more work for us. Personally if I see someone constantly using it to 'thank' random gifs or insults, I will just stick a ban on that person and be done with it :shrug:

But it might be a lot of work to be added in the first place..IDK

[Me. I Am Salman]

'Thanks' would be weird and cringey, there should just be a thumbs up sign and a thumbs down sign on the side and people would click either one based on if they agree with the post, or if they find it funny etc. if you find a post funny saying 'thanks' wouldn't make sense if you get what I mean.. a thumbs up and thumbs down system works for everything

It wouldn't count towards anything like points so there'd be no reason for anyone to beg people for likes. And it wouldn't be anonymous so that would stop it being abused.

[Z]

Yup, I think definitely. Some people are really that sad...

I dont care either way tbh if this happens. Though I can see it being abused Also its not quite as easy as to say 'if people abuse it then take it off' because if we did do that then it would be 'why is everyone losing out because of 3 members' etc etc.

But I dont much care. Dont really see how it would be more work for us. Personally if I see someone constantly using it to 'thank' random gifs or insults, I will just stick a ban on that person and be done with it :shrug:

But it might be a lot of work to be added in the first place..IDK

I think the karma +/- system is better than thumbs up/thumbs down or a thanks button... it's more open to interpretation - you might give someone karma because of a specific post, maybe it made you laugh or it made you think or you agreed with it, or because they made a good thread, or because you just like that person and felt like giving them a + point. Back in the day (I sound ridiculous) people with negative karma didn't seem to even take it particularly seriously, it was like a camp long running joke, panto villain stuff. I remember hannah (selfie hannah) had karma in the minus three digits area and it became a bit of a forum joke with people plussing and minusing her to keep it that way and she seemed to be the one cracking the most jokes about it...

It's not like the site would benefit from adding a karma system because it wouldn't improve anything and the site's fine as it is, it doesn't need a karma system added on, but it was a nice feature and despite all of the valid negative points people have brought up in this thread, the reality (or at least IMO) was that it was a light hearted feature that encouraged people to be better posters. If people wanna beg for + karma or people + each other all the time, so what? Even if someone had the highest karma on the forum for all the wrong reasons, it would be apparent to anyone reading their posts that perhaps it wasn't genuinely earned...

Plus, as always, a handful of people would want to opt out of it because they're averse to praise/criticism for their own personal reasons and would rather not be involved in "forum popularity contests" and there really is no need for a karma system to be added so might as well leave it be... but I miss it and I think it would be nice to have it back again.

[Vicky.]

Actually.I seem to remember mark promising to bring back karma if we got a certain amount of members..or something along those lines Or did I make that up? :suspect:

[Z]

Actually.I seem to remember mark promising to bring back karma if we got a certain amount of members..or something along those lines Or did I make that up? :suspect:

Can't remember that specifically but I do remember people asking if it would ever be brought back and the answer was 'maybe'... because it was never removed on purpose, it just wasn't a feature that was supported on the new server and it would be a lot of extra work to get it added, as far as I can remember?

[Vicky.]

I think he said something in the fb group about it...

Been trying to find it since I posted that but it was ages ago and my internet is slow :joker:

Bet it turns out have for some reason invented his in my head or something

[Z]

People also used to offer karma points as a prize for winning games which I thought was quite cool... like the host of the game would give the winner 10+ points and they'd do it one by one every two hours or whatever the limit was... I think custom forum awards kinda ended up replacing that in a way but it was the same idea, you get a forum reward for winning a game.

[Smithy]

omg @ ammi using another forum, I feel like i've been cheated on :(

[Z]

omg @ ammi using another forum, I feel like i've been cheated on :(

I bet she's the resident forum troll on this other forum, probably posting baiting .GIFs all the time and swearing at everyone

[Benjamin]

:joker:

[billy123]

Its cliquey enough on here without that adding to it.
Not a good idea it will just alienate people. (as much as a few would love that)

[billy123]

That happens already with people posting "[2]" or some kind of sassy gif.No it doesnt though those posts are pointless and just get scrolled past without a flicker of recognition they are nothing but a waste of page space. Nobody takes the slightest bit of notice of those stupid text talk [2] posts.

[Jessica.]

Is there still no hope for this?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is there still no hope for this?

no

[T*]

Is there still no hope for this?

Good luck with this because, unfortunately, there's more chance of it raining beavers than this getting added.

[Josy]

There isn't any plans for a thanks button to be added in the near future, no.

[T*]

See!
If it isn't an option to add your favourites of some reality show to your profile, it wont happen :laugh:

[Josy]

See!
If it isn't an option to add your favourites of some reality show to your profile, it wont happen :laugh:

Makes no sense at all in relation to the question I was answering.

[reece(:]

Still perched for it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good luck with this because, unfortunately, there's more chance of it raining beavers than this getting added.

:fist: My raining beavers suggestion was private

[Samm]

Like Button > Thanks Button

[Headie]

Like Button > Thanks Button

If there was a like button I would like this post :clap1:

[Jessica.]

Like Button > Thanks Button

I would want either tbh. :sad:

[T*]

Can we have this feature added? It's an essential part of other forums and it would eliminate the need to post things like 'This','[2],etc.

[Liam-]

[2]

No but seriously, i think this is actually a good idea.

[Ramsay]

^this

[Crimson Dynamo]

I say bad idea


it just leads to people trying to support their own views by fake praising others

[Drew.]

It's basically a lazier version of quoting someone to either agree with them or then give your own opinions. Threads will have a lot less posts.

[T*]

It's basically a lazier version of quoting someone to either agree with them or then give your own opinions. Threads will have a lot less posts.

Why do less posts matter?

[Drew.]

If you want threads with 2 or 3 replies in them then fair enough.

[LukeB]

I can see where Drew is coming from

[Shaun]

Threads with two or three posts are no less valid than ones with 10+ just saying ":clap1:" or "great point Niamh" tbf

[Drew.]

Well yeah when you give an example of a thread with 10+ emote replies then theres not much difference but that rarely happens anyway.

[Amy Jade]

Threads with two or three posts are no less valid than ones with 10+ just saying ":clap1:" or "great point Niamh" tbf

I agree.

[Ninastar]

i could see it being used as bullying, as people will just agree with their friends....

[Crimson Dynamo]

i could see it being used as bullying, as people will just agree with their friends....

+1

[LukeB]

i could see it being used as bullying, as people will just agree with their friends....

good point tbf

[MTVN]

Unnecessary imo, agree with the criticisms already made and I don't like the idea that it sorta turns posting into a contest with people always wanting to have the most 'likes/thanks', will just get used for one-upmanship in a lot of discussions as well

Not sure why this thread was made really when the last one on this topic got bumped only last month and it was said there were no plans for it to happen anytime soon

[Ramsay]

Karma was fun

[Ninastar]

+1

stop ****ing sexually harassing me

[Crimson Dynamo]

stop ****ing sexually harassing me

I want to Karma your Chameleon

:evilgrin:

[Kyle]

i could see it being used as bullying, as people will just agree with their friends....

It's a great tool for having a pop at somebody without actually saying anything and risking getting infracted. Just wait for your mate or someone with a backbone to have a dig at someone you don't like then slap a greenie/like to his/her post.

Can only see it getting abused on here in my opinion which is a shame cos I'm actually for it.

[Natalie.]

I'd like this, seems a good idea

[Josy]

There isn't any plans for a thanks button to be added in the near future, no.

..

[Ninastar]

It's a great tool for having a pop at somebody without actually saying anything and risking getting infracted. Just wait for your mate or someone with a backbone to have a dig at someone you don't like then slap a greenie/like to his/her post.

Can only see it getting abused on here in my opinion which is a shame cos I'm actually for it.

lol yep... pretty much!

sly comment which is used as an insult (and denied as one too...) and then getting your crew to 'like' it

would definitely be used in a bad way on here

[Vicky.]

It's a great tool for having a pop at somebody without actually saying anything and risking getting infracted. Just wait for your mate or someone with a backbone to have a dig at someone you don't like then slap a greenie/like to his/her post.

Can only see it getting abused on here in my opinion which is a shame cos I'm actually for it.

lol yep... pretty much!

sly comment which is used as an insult (and denied as one too...) and then getting your crew to 'like' it

would definitely be used in a bad way on here
Yup. Its a shame really

[Kizzy]

The way this is... :laugh: