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Lee.
13-01-2014, 10:21 PM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

MTVN
13-01-2014, 10:22 PM
:worship:

Kazanne
13-01-2014, 10:23 PM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

If only we could send that to her Lee :joker:

Josy
13-01-2014, 10:23 PM
True story.

:worship:

Benjamin
13-01-2014, 10:23 PM
These Jim fans staying pressed at Luisa hitting the truth. :pipe:

GiRTh
13-01-2014, 10:23 PM
Preach it :worship:

Jake.
13-01-2014, 10:26 PM
Yet if it was a bloke with those qualities I reckon that he wouldn't have half the issue which he does

Jake.
13-01-2014, 10:27 PM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

And these are pretty much Jim's and Luisa's traits rolled into one, they say that people with similar personalities can repel

Kazanne
13-01-2014, 10:32 PM
These Jim fans staying pressed at Luisa hitting the truth. :pipe:

Look Ben anyone with Linda Nolan and gobby on their backs needs all the support they can get :hugesmile:

King Gizzard
13-01-2014, 10:33 PM
Good ol Jim

What a horrible woman she is

Benjamin
13-01-2014, 10:34 PM
Look Ben anyone with Linda Nolan and gobby on their backs needs all the support they can get :hugesmile:

He'll thank you later by punching his wife in the face. :pipe:

Z
13-01-2014, 11:07 PM
Yet if it was a bloke with those qualities I reckon that he wouldn't have half the issue which he does

You're quite probably right but I also agree with the OP. She's nasty on so many levels but my God is she entertaining!

GiRTh
13-01-2014, 11:11 PM
I think there is a certain amount of truth in her theory on why Jim dislikes her but its not just to confined to him. I have to say, IMO for a nobody - she admitted tonight that she's not even a millionaire in her business ventures so what exactly has she done in her life? - she has an amazing amount of self confidence or is it self delusion?

Kazanne
13-01-2014, 11:13 PM
He'll thank you later by punching his wife in the face. :pipe:

Or maybe Jasmine will do it!!! she's a puncher too:dance:

rionablue
13-01-2014, 11:16 PM
Jim is an old fuddy duddy who has probably forgotten he was young once. I have not even seen him crack a smile since he entered the house. Luisa is brazen, in your face, of loose morals, and never shuts up. Sorry but I would rather watch her than Jim even if she is annoying

joeysteele
13-01-2014, 11:18 PM
Great opening post Lee, I really wish it could be read out to her actually.

sampvt
13-01-2014, 11:22 PM
When are these people going to be themselves. Can you see Louisa going into a meeting trying to sell something and say ....ok guys, I love sex, I swear all the time, I cant stand grumpy old people and I sleep with 5 men at a time. I guess she would close the deal quickly eh, NOT. She is trying to play a game and wants to be the next bitch on the telly and its just making her look like a foul mouthed and unstable numpty. God only knows what her business on the outside will be like when she comes out.

Kazanne
13-01-2014, 11:24 PM
Jim is an old fuddy duddy who has probably forgotten he was young once. I have not even seen him crack a smile since he entered the house. Luisa is brazen, in your face, of loose morals, and never shuts up. Sorry but I would rather watch her than Jim even if she is annoying

You have not seen him smile!!!! blimey you must have watched all of 10 mins of the show

Mystic Mock
13-01-2014, 11:57 PM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

All three of these Jim is also guilty for.

michael21
14-01-2014, 12:00 AM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

i like slutty bitch and i can not lie :laugh:

Mystic Mock
14-01-2014, 12:02 AM
Pick up your phone and vote Michael, that "slutty bitch" needs your votes and she might be grateful afterwards.

Me. I Am Salman
14-01-2014, 12:30 AM
idhtt

Z
14-01-2014, 12:32 AM
idhtt

I don't have the time? You kids and your new acronyms :fist:

Mystic Mock
14-01-2014, 12:34 AM
I don't have the time? You kids and your new acronyms :fist:

I'm feeling old too Zee.:bawling:

Me. I Am Salman
14-01-2014, 12:39 AM
I don't have the time? You kids and your new acronyms :fist:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/e5ec4b9cd059d7d7d2efe5f512e61a62/tumblr_mnsdcf0QxN1qdxhroo1_500.gif

Z
14-01-2014, 12:50 AM
Tell me your code Salman! :laugh:

Black Dagger
14-01-2014, 01:03 AM
Drag her Lee :love:

Kizzy
14-01-2014, 03:04 AM
Or maybe Jasmine will do it!!! she's a puncher too:dance:

Nah, she'd prob just fingerbang her in the face :joker:

Ammi
14-01-2014, 05:26 AM
..I think that Jim is sexist/a male chauvinist, which whether that be a product of his era etc or whatever, I still think is true and I think that Luisa/her personality goes against everything that he believes a female should be, so there was always going to be a clash...

thesheriff443
14-01-2014, 06:57 AM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

I don't think jim despises her.

reece(:
14-01-2014, 07:06 AM
Luisa > your faves.

Confirm Ben.

Northern Monkey
14-01-2014, 07:52 AM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

Love it!:thumbs:

iRyan
14-01-2014, 07:59 AM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

I do agree that Jim does not dislike Louisa for being successful, smart, etc. But he does need to get over the fact that she has every right to speak her mind when and where she wishes without being disregarded. He just needs to get the stick up out of his ass over her.

But what's wrong with a woman being outspoken? If Louisa was a man, would you would have used outspoken among your list of her negative attributes? Loud-mouthed? Not really. Having an opinion does not make you a loudmouth - Louisa really does not shout unless shouted at. She normally talks quite quietly. Labeling her a slutty bitch is just a demeaning way of categorizing a woman open with her sexuality, when a guy who did such a thing i'm sure would be championed as a hero. Attention seeking? Maybe. Crude? Maybe. But the rest, I disagree.

rusticgal
14-01-2014, 09:20 AM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox


LOVE IT!!! :dance:

optimisticcynic
14-01-2014, 10:09 AM
I do agree that Jim does not dislike Louisa for being successful, smart, etc. But he does need to get over the fact that she has every right to speak her mind when and where she wishes without being disregarded. He just needs to get the stick up out of his ass over her.

But what's wrong with a woman being outspoken? If Louisa was a man, would you would have used outspoken among your list of her negative attributes? Loud-mouthed? Not really. Having an opinion does not make you a loudmouth - Louisa really does not shout unless shouted at. She normally talks quite quietly. Labeling her a slutty bitch is just a demeaning way of categorizing a woman open with her sexuality, when a guy who did such a thing i'm sure would be championed as a hero. Attention seeking? Maybe. Crude? Maybe. But the rest, I disagree.

Some fair points there iRyan, and I suppose that I can't stand Luisa because I am unable to identify any redeeming qualities on an interpersonal level. She is attractive as hell and puts out, which in my more shallow moments would make me drool, but that is only on a physical short-term level. With regards aspects of her behaviour or personality that would make me want to be friends with or like her, I see a rude, insensitive, egotistical, snide, bitchy woman who by her own admission deems people of no consequence if her involvement with them will not better her own situation. I wish for friends, not guardian angels/surrogate parents, but I also hope that if poop ever hit the fan, said friends would move heaven and earth to help me, as I would them.

Her humour is often at someone else's expense as she hides under the covers with her "beautiful-enough" ally Jasmine bitching about everybody else, and likely alienating those around her as she did through school. She assessed the terrain and strangely chose to attach herself to the other good-looking, sexually disinhibited Mean Girl of the group, thus introducing Barney Stinson's Cheerleader Effect" aka "The Bridesmaid Paradox".

People question whether Jim has changed, but I fear there is little difference between 15yr old bitchy Luisa, and the CBB version.

coolface
14-01-2014, 10:45 AM
awful woman

flamingGalah!
14-01-2014, 10:53 AM
OP speaketh the truth :worship:

HBB1508
14-01-2014, 11:07 AM
Spot on Lee. well said!!!

Josy
14-01-2014, 11:30 AM
I do agree that Jim does not dislike Louisa for being successful, smart, etc. But he does need to get over the fact that she has every right to speak her mind when and where she wishes without being disregarded. He just needs to get the stick up out of his ass over her.

But what's wrong with a woman being outspoken? If Louisa was a man, would you would have used outspoken among your list of her negative attributes? Loud-mouthed? Not really. Having an opinion does not make you a loudmouth - Louisa really does not shout unless shouted at. She normally talks quite quietly. Labeling her a slutty bitch is just a demeaning way of categorizing a woman open with her sexuality, when a guy who did such a thing i'm sure would be championed as a hero. Attention seeking? Maybe. Crude? Maybe. But the rest, I disagree.

Jim let her speak her mind fine whilst she was doing her nominations which was a nasty little speech about him also but when the tables where turned and it was Jim's turn to speak Luisa had to butt in, she couldn't let him have his say about her without itching at the bit to say something in retaliation.

That's the thing with people like Luisa they are adamant that they are being honest and upfront when in reality they are just plain rude and can't take it when they are treated the same way as as they treat others.

MTVN
14-01-2014, 11:32 AM
Very true Josy

GiRTh
14-01-2014, 11:40 AM
I do agree that Jim does not dislike Louisa for being successful, smart, etc. But he does need to get over the fact that she has every right to speak her mind when and where she wishes without being disregarded. He just needs to get the stick up out of his ass over her.

But what's wrong with a woman being outspoken? If Louisa was a man, would you would have used outspoken among your list of her negative attributes? Loud-mouthed? Not really. Having an opinion does not make you a loudmouth - Louisa really does not shout unless shouted at. She normally talks quite quietly. Labeling her a slutty bitch is just a demeaning way of categorizing a woman open with her sexuality, when a guy who did such a thing i'm sure would be championed as a hero. Attention seeking? Maybe. Crude? Maybe. But the rest, I disagree.Successful? She admitted she isnt even a millionaire in her business ventures so by my reckoning I have at least a couple of female friends who are probably MORE successful that she is. And if a man didnt like them Im. sure they wouldnt be trotting out their 'success' as the reason why. Luisa is not all that successful, thats not why people dont like her. It her, her attitude, her rudeness, her over familiaritly, her double standards, her manipulative nature. She's just an unpleasant character and people attitude toward her has absolutely nothing to do with her delusions regarding her 'success'

chuff me dizzy
14-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

:worship:

Suze
14-01-2014, 11:43 AM
Think you are spot on, Lee.

Livia
14-01-2014, 11:45 AM
I do agree that Jim does not dislike Louisa for being successful, smart, etc. But he does need to get over the fact that she has every right to speak her mind when and where she wishes without being disregarded. He just needs to get the stick up out of his ass over her.

But what's wrong with a woman being outspoken? If Louisa was a man, would you would have used outspoken among your list of her negative attributes? Loud-mouthed? Not really. Having an opinion does not make you a loudmouth - Louisa really does not shout unless shouted at. She normally talks quite quietly. Labeling her a slutty bitch is just a demeaning way of categorizing a woman open with her sexuality, when a guy who did such a thing i'm sure would be championed as a hero. Attention seeking? Maybe. Crude? Maybe. But the rest, I disagree.


Yeah, that's all well and good. But how come Luisa is all for standing up and loudly speaking her mind... but doesn't like it AT ALL when someone else does the same to her? I'm tired of seeing her trying to justify her own rudeness and bad manners my claiming she's honest and outspoken, but when someone calls her on it, she has a bit of a cry. She's an idiot... She tells everyone really loudly that she's intelligent and successful, and if she keeps saying it loudly enough, one day it might come true. Not holding my breath though.

jegmeister
14-01-2014, 09:44 PM
Jim does not dislike you because you are a successful woman. He is not intimidated by your confident femininity. He isn't threatened by your brains or your successful businesses.

He despises you for being a crude, loud mouthed, outspoken, attention seeking, slutty bitch.

Yours honestly
Lee xox

Change the words not and isn't in the first paragraph to "is" and it makes sense. "He does dislike her because she is a successful woman" etc.

Cherie
14-01-2014, 09:49 PM
I do agree that Jim does not dislike Louisa for being successful, smart, etc. But he does need to get over the fact that she has every right to speak her mind when and where she wishes without being disregarded. He just needs to get the stick up out of his ass over her.

.

Actually if you watch the noms again, when he started nominating her he said something along the lines of "it wasn't going to be like this, but lets have a bit of ping pong" . She threw down the gauntlet and he picked it up. If she had nominated him normally he wouldn't have responded how he did, so who needs to take the stick out of their ass?

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
14-01-2014, 10:10 PM
she's the only bb mother that hasn't been like "I miss my child :bawling::bawling:"

Z
14-01-2014, 10:31 PM
Someone should link this to Luisa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology

GiRTh
14-01-2014, 10:40 PM
Lionel Blair has summed up Luisa brilliantly on Big Mouth. She's self centered, she thinks she's the biggest star in there. She's so obvious I dont see how people cant see it.

Jake.
14-01-2014, 10:44 PM
Lionel Blair has summed up Luisa brilliantly on Big Mouth. She's self centered, she thinks she's the biggest star in there. She's so obvious I dont see how people cant see it.

Perhaps they do (like me) but they support her because they find her of some value as a housemate? I don't see why people she have to keep on explaining why they support housemates tbh

Z
14-01-2014, 10:44 PM
Lionel Blair has summed up Luisa brilliantly on Big Mouth. She's self centered, she thinks she's the biggest star in there. She's so obvious I dont see how people cant see it.

I think she has a lot of support because, to be fair to her, she has been attacked by others (whether rightly or wrongly) on multiple occasions and people do tend to support someone they perceive as an underdog; she's been crying a lot and whereas you and I see that as her being pathetic and not being able to take what she dishes out; others see it as a real display of emotion and her being attacked unfairly in the house... Still, having said that, I find it hard to believe so many people like her as a person after all of the **** she's slung in the house... I can understand people supporting her because she's been entertaining; I support her for that reason too; but I think she's a self centered, condescending woman who is completely unapologetic for who she is (gets her ahead in business; makes her awful as a person)...

GiRTh
14-01-2014, 10:49 PM
Perhaps they do (like me) but they support her because they find her of some value as a housemate? I don't see why people she have to keep on explaining why they support housemates tbh think she's entertaining but I think there is nothing about her that is likeable. Her self confidence borders on delusion, her attitude toward others is none existent unless she is in the ascendency, she is possibly one of the most obnoxious people I;ve ever seen in any kind of reality Tv show but she is entertaining but definitely not a worthy winner

Me. I Am Salman
14-01-2014, 10:49 PM
It's only the older forum members who are hating on Luisa :conf2:

Jake.
14-01-2014, 10:53 PM
think she's entertaining but I think there is nothing about her that is likeable. Her self confidence borders on delusion, her attitude toward others is none existent unless she is in the ascendency, she is possibly one of the most obnoxious people I;ve ever seen in any kind of reality Tv show but she is entertaining.

Yeah, I guess everybody is different but I don't watch CBB to find people to like, I watch to be entertained for 3 or so weeks. The Shannon Twins, Jasmine Lennard, Julie Goodyear, Speidi.. all unlikeable for example, yet all provided entertainment of some kind for me. Whilst I understand some dislike Luisa, I support her because of what she has brought to the series, which is more than can be said for some of the other housemates, A house full of loveable people would be all well and good for some, but watching people sip tea all day and talk about the weather wouldn't exactly be ground-breaking television by todays standards.

Z
14-01-2014, 10:54 PM
It's only the older forum members who are hating on Luisa :conf2:

I'm 22, I hope you're not calling me old Salman :o :laugh:

MeMyselfAndI
14-01-2014, 10:56 PM
Luisa is hilarious, I love her :lovedup:

Z
14-01-2014, 10:58 PM
Yeah, I guess everybody is different but I don't watch CBB to find people to like, I watch to be entertained for 3 or so weeks. The Shannon Twins, Jasmine Lennard, Julie Goodyear, Speidi.. all unlikeable for example, yet all provided entertainment of some kind for me. Whilst I understand some dislike Luisa, I support her because of what she has brought to the series, which is more than can be said for some of the other housemates, A house full of loveable people would be all well and good for some, but watching people sip tea all day and talk about the weather wouldn't exactly be ground-breaking television by todays standards.

Exactly. It's all good and well supporting Sam/Ollie for "being nice" but I just can't get behind the idea of wanting someone like one of them to win because they've been "nice" all series. People like that get called "nice" because there's nothing else to say about them. If there was anything more to say about them, it would be said, like "Jake's a nice guy, he always takes the time to get to know people and be an active listener and he has a great sense of humour." Sam and Ollie are just... there. We've even seen what it's like to have a house full of "nice" people - Big Brother 4, and that was a disaster for the show and it's exactly why Big Brother has since thrived on bitchiness, negativity and ridiculous housemates because they never want another series like BB4 to happen ever again, it's like pulling teeth trying to edit that into something exciting.

Luisa is somebody I would hate to know in real life and there are so many things about her personality and outlook that I despise but I would much rather see her walk away as the winner than somebody who just kept their head down for 4 weeks and did absolutely nothing to earn it.

GiRTh
14-01-2014, 10:59 PM
Yeah, I guess everybody is different but I don't watch CBB to find people to like, I watch to be entertained for 3 or so weeks. The Shannon Twins, Jasmine Lennard, Julie Goodyear, Speidi.. all unlikeable for example, yet all provided entertainment of some kind for me. Whilst I understand some dislike Luisa, I support her because of what she has brought to the series, which is more than can be said for some of the other housemates, A house full of loveable people would be all well and good for some, but watching people sip tea all day and talk about the weather wouldn't exactly be ground-breaking television by todays standards.I dont think a Hm needs to be as obnoxious as Luisa to be entertaining. Julie Goodyear was a huge star in her day, The Shannon Twins are internationally renowned models, Speidi have their onw TV show and are Reality TV veterans they all had excuses for their behavior Luisa has none other than her awful personality.

Jake.
14-01-2014, 11:06 PM
Exactly. It's all good and well supporting Sam/Ollie for "being nice" but I just can't get behind the idea of wanting someone like one of them to win because they've been "nice" all series. People like that get called "nice" because there's nothing else to say about them. If there was anything more to say about them, it would be said, like "Jake's a nice guy, he always takes the time to get to know people and be an active listener and he has a great sense of humour." Sam and Ollie are just... there. We've even seen what it's like to have a house full of "nice" people - Big Brother 4, and that was a disaster for the show and it's exactly why Big Brother has since thrived on bitchiness, negativity and ridiculous housemates because they never want another series like BB4 to happen ever again, it's like pulling teeth trying to edit that into something exciting.

Luisa is somebody I would hate to know in real life and there are so many things about her personality and outlook that I despise but I would much rather see her walk away as the winner than somebody who just kept their head down for 4 weeks and did absolutely nothing to earn it.

Agree with all of this (especially the bit about me) :worship:

The problem is, if a boring person does make it to the end and wins, what is proven? That being the nice-yet boring person who sits back and hides under the cover makes you a deserving winner over people who have actually contributed to give viewers varying talking points? I'm all for an underdog, but I would definetly say that people such as Luisa/Jim/Jasmine/Dappy deserve places in the final over the likes of Sam, because whilst being lovely, she hasn't offered nearly as much. That isn't exactly her fault mind, I mean she's stuck in a house with a huge amount of nasty attention seekers.

Z
14-01-2014, 11:15 PM
I was speculating the other night that Sam and Ollie haven't opened up in the house because their job (being reality TV stars) requires them to be filmed all the time and they know how to portray themselves in the best light possible on camera; which explains why they've not given anything away because they realise that everyone else in the house is horrible and they're only going to ruin their reputations if they join in with any argument in the house because everyone else is on a downwards spiral in terms of public perception.

Jake.
14-01-2014, 11:15 PM
Ooo Greg that's actually a pretty good thought, never looked at it in that light...

Mystic Mock
14-01-2014, 11:48 PM
It's only the older forum members who are hating on Luisa :conf2:

They've grown up on the Wife Beater perhaps?

Mystic Mock
14-01-2014, 11:49 PM
I'm 22, I hope you're not calling me old Salman :o :laugh:

Yeah but surely you don't want her to be evicted over Liz like some people are?:shocked:

reece(:
14-01-2014, 11:51 PM
Luisa is somebody I would hate to know in real life and there are so many things about her personality and outlook that I despise but I would much rather see her walk away as the winner than somebody who just kept their head down for 4 weeks and did absolutely nothing to earn it.

This is spot on, it often gets misconstrued that we're supporting the "dislikeables" because we love them as people and would love to hang with them irl. Most of the time, it's the opposite - I'd hate to be stuck in a room with Jasmine Lennard but love watching her stuck in a house winding a bunch of other celebs up. It's good television and is bringing talking points.

sampvt
14-01-2014, 11:58 PM
[QUOTE=The Mockinator;6618338]They've grown up on the Wife Beater perhaps?[/QUOTE

Or maybe our years have given us plenty of lifes experiences to choose from. We don't need to kiss ass and mirror everyones views just because we want to be cool. We have seen it all before.

Lee.
14-01-2014, 11:59 PM
It's only the older forum members who are hating on Luisa :conf2:

Define "older "

Do you mean older than Luisa? Older than you?

Mystic Mock
15-01-2014, 12:03 AM
[QUOTE=The Mockinator;6618338]They've grown up on the Wife Beater perhaps?[/QUOTE

Or maybe our years have given us plenty of lifes experiences to choose from. We don't need to kiss ass and mirror everyones views just because we want to be cool. We have seen it all before.

Well I don't who you're referring to there because Luisa has more haters than fans.

sampvt
15-01-2014, 12:05 AM
[QUOTE=sampvt;6618370]

Well I don't who you're referring to there because Luisa has more haters than fans.

I meant we older citizens have the power to think for ourselves instead of echoing ther views of the other cool kids just for Kudos

Mystic Mock
15-01-2014, 12:10 AM
Or perhaps the younger viewers like entertainers and not people that are afraid of saying anything like Sam and Ollie.

Jordan.
15-01-2014, 12:12 AM
Thug Jim probably wants to beat her

Mystic Mock
15-01-2014, 12:14 AM
Thug Jim probably wants to beat her

She better not anger Sam as well.:joker:

Mac1978
15-01-2014, 12:14 AM
Really disliked Luisa 'til tonight.

I still don't believe all that superwoman BS, and her alpha female act bugs the hell out of me. But behind all the pointless bravado, it seems that there's a very witty and pleasant young woman. What a change a night makes.

Z
15-01-2014, 12:14 AM
Ooo Greg that's actually a pretty good thought, never looked at it in that light...

I mean I don't think Sam and Ollie are bitchy people who are pretending not to be, but they must at least be aware that the others are making fools of themselves by fighting all the time and can probably deduce that at worst people don't have opinions of them and at best people like them by default; I mean they're both from scripted reality shows so they've got plenty of experience and knowledge about what looks good, what looks bad...

HD
15-01-2014, 12:14 AM
It's only the older forum members who are hating on Luisa :conf2:

I've thought this over the last few days :umm2:

MarcusMel
15-01-2014, 12:25 AM
I think she has a lot of support because, to be fair to her, she has been attacked by others (whether rightly or wrongly) on multiple occasions and people do tend to support someone they perceive as an underdog; she's been crying a lot and whereas you and I see that as her being pathetic and not being able to take what she dishes out; others see it as a real display of emotion and her being attacked unfairly in the house... Still, having said that, I find it hard to believe so many people like her as a person after all of the **** she's slung in the house... I can understand people supporting her because she's been entertaining; I support her for that reason too; but I think she's a self centered, condescending woman who is completely unapologetic for who she is (gets her ahead in business; makes her awful as a person)...

Actually she is being the over enthusiastic child at the party who is very venerable to criticism. We are not seeing the organised business personality manipulating resources to achieve a goal.

Z
15-01-2014, 12:28 AM
Actually she is being the over enthusiastic child at the party who is very venerable to criticism. We are not seeing the organised business personality manipulating resources to achieve a goal.

I agree we're not seeing a composed woman capable of commanding a business empire; but we are seeing the qualities that give her the sort of drive and self confidence to achieve her goals. She speaks her mind and sticks to her guns, she doesn't pander to anyone as far as I can see, I can see how she'd get ahead of others in her chosen career path.

Me. I Am Salman
15-01-2014, 12:35 AM
Define "older "

Do you mean older than Luisa? Older than you?

The ones in their 30s/40s, with the odd exceptions like Zee
I don't mean it as an insult it's just something I've realised :shrug:

CaudleHalbard
15-01-2014, 12:45 AM
I agree we're not seeing a composed woman capable of commanding a business empire

Her empire is a shop which sells cupcakes! :D

Z
15-01-2014, 01:08 AM
Her empire is a shop which sells cupcakes! :D

I really don't know anything about most of the housemates :joker: I think it shows... hahah

MarcusMel
15-01-2014, 01:35 AM
The ones in their 30s/40s, with the odd exceptions like Zee
I don't mean it as an insult it's just something I've realised :shrug:

You can only give offence to people who take offence. People who take offence have beliefs of how people should behave and get angry when they don't.

Personally I see the voting public as really stupid and they would be better off investing their voting money or giving it to the Philippians rescue fund, cancer research, Macmillan nurses, etc. :shrug:

Lee.
15-01-2014, 08:26 AM
Her empire is a shop which sells cupcakes! :D

Yeah.. I googled which businesses she currently owns, and came up with nothing!

Slevin
15-01-2014, 09:45 AM
Perhaps they do (like me) but they support her because they find her of some value as a housemate? I don't see why people she have to keep on explaining why they support housemates tbh
no one has to. if asked they can if they want but all you have to do is think just a lil bit and its easy to see why a certain HM is loved/hated. "i dont get the appeal/i dont get the love/hate." i dont get why some people cant get why someone is liked or not. its not really that hard to figure out. can at least get in the ballpark if you think about it hard enough.

CaudleHalbard
15-01-2014, 11:36 AM
Yeah.. I googled which businesses she currently owns, and came up with nothing!

She has a few listings:

http://companycheck.co.uk/search/results?SearchCompaniesForm%5Bname%5D=louisa+zissm an&yt0.x=46&yt0.y=15

The spelling of the forename is Louisa rather than Luisa but the year of birth matches (1987).