Luisa and Lionel kick off vid

[erinp5]

4.30pm: Oh. Luisa and Lionel had a brief but intense stand up row. Lionel is furious and Jim's trying to calm him in the garden

[erinp5]

4.36pm: @LeeRyanMusic warns @thelionelblair that @TheLuluLife is getting angrier and he shouldn't upset himself

[Jake.]

Amazing, can't wait to see it.

[erinp5]

4.50pm: The moment @thelionelblair blew his top at @TheLuluLife. Clip coming soon! #bbuklive #LionelBLAAARGH pic.twitter.com/nhwUl4x1YG


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[Ammi]

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...Luisa..:fist:...

[smeagol]

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...Luisa..:fist:...

is that doctor who

[erinp5]

5.08pm: The inquest into Lionel and Luisa's row continues apace. The HMs have split into two groups to discuss what happened

[Josy]

Lionel must be arguing with Luisa because he envies her businesses and her strong willed honest attitude.

It couldn't possibly be anything else right?

[MTVN]

Lionel must be arguing with Luisa because he envies her businesses and her strong willed honest attitude.

It couldn't possibly be anything else right?

:joker:

[erinp5]

Lionel must be arguing with Luisa because he envies her businesses and her strong willed honest attitude.

It couldn't possibly be anything else right?

Touche :joker:

[erinp5]

5.15pm: "Luisa won't have any guilt or remorse at all" says Lionel. He's right, you know

[chuff me dizzy]

Gone right off Lionel, what a 2 faced swine he is ? slags girls of to Jim then sit slagging Jim off to them ,then nominates Jim TWICE ,sly old gett him !!

[seanraff07]

Not a big fan of Lionel but more drama

[Niamh.]

5.15pm: "Luisa won't have any guilt or remorse at all" says Lionel. He's right, you know

I don't like Luisa at all but I bet it's something ****ing stupid that he's gotten annoyed over, like Jasmines crude talking (but it's ok for him or other men to do it) or saying he's old (which quite clearly he is)

[Pink Pegasus]

Lionel must be arguing with Luisa because he envies her businesses and her strong willed honest attitude.

It couldn't possibly be anything else right?

:joker: That has to be it alright.

[erinp5]

5.37pm: Lionel just described Jasmine and Luisa as "evil, the sort of people you only see in American movies." Ouch

[jet]

5.37pm: Lionel just described Jasmine and Luisa as "evil, the sort of people you only see in American movies." Ouch

That should please the Jim fans. :joker:

[Vanessa]

Louisa needs to be careful or she'll be evicted.

[Censored]

5.37pm: Lionel just described Jasmine and Luisa as "evil, the sort of people you only see in American movies." Ouch

What a stupid thing to say. I've never liked him, but he's even worse than I imagined.

At first I actually thought he might be a laugh, having seen him in Extras. Wrong. Too boring, too up himself and too old. Go Louisa - you mad bint!

[Cherie]

I wonder if they lost the task and Lionel is upset. If Luisa rumbled that it was Jim and convinced the rest then they are on basic rations for the week.

[erinp5]

I wonder if they lost the task and Lionel is upset. If Luisa rumbled that it was Jim and convinced the rest then they are on basic rations for the week.

I am thinking the same .

[jet]

I am thinking the same .

I was too.

[Gstar]

video please

[erinp5]

video please

waiting on it :hugesmile:

[Samm]

Luisa >

[erinp5]

The whole house punished because of Luisa


UNYracGn1Ps

[Gstar]

Luisa must stay

[Ammi]

..did we know that Jim was making all the decisions..(I didn't..:laugh:..)...?..

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb_dAVKRbeE

cb_dAVKRbeE

[Ammi]

...hmmmm, so Lionel asked her to get the chocolates and then said 'but you didn't have to do it, I'm not your boss..'...it'll be interesting to see the whole thing...

[chuff me dizzy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb_dAVKRbeE

cb_dAVKRbeE

Glad he told her !! I think I could start liking Lionel again now

[Cherie]

..did we know that Jim was making all the decisions..(I didn't..:laugh:..)...?..

Yes! :joker:

[Vanessa]

Glad he told her !! I think I could start liking Lionel again now

Lionel is very straight talking. Love him!

[Cherie]

...hmmmm, so Lionel asked her to get the chocolates and then said 'but you didn't have to do it, I'm not your boss..'...it'll be interesting to see the whole thing...
I bet he encouraged her and is backtracking now

[joeysteele]

Louisa needs to be careful or she'll be evicted.

Taking Lionel on, that well could happen Vanessa. She really seeems to not be able to just think before she speaks and acts can she.

[Rob!]

Am I your boss now? :joker:

[Vanessa]

Taking Lionel on, that well could happen Vanessa. She really seeems to not be able to just think before she speaks and acts can she.

It's a shame if she goes. She's a great housemate.

[Gusto Brunt]

What the hell was wrong with Lionel?? Why didn't he nominate that &^$£ing %$£$ Luisa??? :mad:

He slags off Jim for complaining and yet Lionel agrees with everything Jim complains about.

Does that make any sense???!! :confused:

[Rob!]

From watching that video, Luissa seems to have a point :joker:

[erinp5]

7.45pm: Luisa is refusing to cook for Lionel and Jim. "I'm not their personal chef" she groans

[Vanessa]

7.45pm: Luisa is refusing to cook for Lionel and Jim. "I'm not their personal chef" she groans

She's digging her own grave. :shocked:

[Ammi]

Yes! :joker:


...dammit, no one told me..:fist:...

I bet he encouraged her and is backtracking now

..yeah, he didn't deny it, in fact he admitted it by saying that she didn't have to listen to him..:laugh:..what I love about this BB is how 'mature' their arguments are, it really is hilarious....

[thesheriff443]

I must say I enjoyed that a little too much.

[Josy]

7.45pm: Luisa is refusing to cook for Lionel and Jim. "I'm not their personal chef" she groans

Such a petty childish woman.

[erinp5]

From watching that video, Luissa seems to have a point :joker:

The argument was about make up ,you hear Jim tell them that Luisa wore lipstick that morning .Luisa being called out on it decided to bring up the chocs as a way to get the heat of her .
Luisa is a selfish self centred bitch .

[Moosething]

Go luisa :dance:

[thesheriff443]

Such a petty childish woman.

to fair, its not easy to let go!

[Rob!]

The argument was about make up ,you hear Jim tell them that Luisa wore lipstick that morning .Luisa being called out on it decided to bring up the chocs as a way to get the heat of her .
Luisa is a selfish self centred bitch .

I thought the argument was about Luissa stealing chocolates from the annoying room?

[Josy]

to fair, its not easy to let go!

What do you mean?

[erinp5]

I thought the argument was about Luissa stealing chocolates from the annoying room?

At the start of the vid you hear Jim say what Luisa did regarding the make up .If you watch the shopping task result BB punished the house for Luisa's rule breaks. I take it that all of this kicked off the argument .

[erinp5]

7.59pm: Jim is staying away from the kitchen. "I'm not going near Luisa while she's holding sharp implements" he says, dryly

[Suze]

Louisa needs to be careful or she'll be evicted.
If anything, it could have the opposite effect and save her :( what a silly git Lionel is.

[thesheriff443]

What do you mean?

if me and you had a row, would you then cook for me?
answer truthfully.

[Amy Jade]

Wait...so Lionel told Luisa to get some chocolates for him, which she did. They then got punished for it and now he's kicking off on here for doing what he asked her to do?

Sorry has dementia set in or something?

[Josy]

Wait...so Lionel told Luisa to get some chocolates for him, which she did. They then got punished for it and now he's kicking off on here for doing what he asked her to do?

Sorry has dementia set in or something?

No Luisa had already ignored what BB said and climbed to get the champagne, the chocs must have been sitting next to it.

So the punishment would still have been the same whether she took the chos or not.

[thesheriff443]

Wait...so Lionel told Luisa to get some chocolates for him, which she did. They then got punished for it and now he's kicking off on here for doing what he asked her to do?

Sorry has dementia set in or something?

that's part of it but she was also using beauty products when they should of been handed in.

[Josy]

if me and you had a row, would you then cook for me?
answer truthfully.

It's different in BB though? so I don't know how you can compare?

In BB one or two usually cooks for the group, Linda doesn't get on with Jim but still cooks for him when she's cooking for the rest of them anyway, so Luisa refusing to cook for Jim and Lionel because she has a problem with them is childish and petty IMO.

To answer your question if we were in BB and argued I would still cook for you if I was cooking for others.

[Videostar]

Lionel must be arguing with Luisa because he envies her businesses and her strong willed honest attitude.

It couldn't possibly be anything else right?

The fact that she's a thoughtless and selfish person who never listens to anyone else??................nah, it couldn't be that. :joker:

[Amy Jade]

No Luisa had already ignored what BB said and climbed to get the champagne, the chocs must have been sitting next to it.

So the punishment would still have been the same whether she took the chos or not.
Still it seems he enjoyed or wanted the chocolates but wasnt happy to deal with the punishment.

[Videostar]

if me and you had a row, would you then cook for me?
answer truthfully.

If it were my turn to cook then yes, obviously I would have to.

Only selfish people who hold grudges (as Luisa said she doesn't hold grudges only yesterday) would be nasty enough to leave certain people out when she cooks.

[thesheriff443]

It's different in BB though? so I don't know how you can compare?

In BB one or two usually cooks for the group, Linda doesn't get on with Jim but still cooks for him when she's cooking for the rest of them anyway, so Luisa refusing to cook for Jim and Lionel because she has a problem with them is childish and petty IMO.

To answer your question if we were in BB and argued I would still cook for you if I was cooking for others.

its no different being in bb or being in the real world, if you have a fall out with someone the last thing you will want to do is cook for them,

lionel in the garden calling her a bitch.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Well done Luisa for not cooking for Lionel & Jim, they show zero grattitude

[Josy]

Still it seems he enjoyed or wanted the chocolates but wasnt happy to deal with the punishment.

Yes well he admitted that during the argument that he asked her to get them, but the house wasn't punished because he ate the chocs they were punished because Luisa broke the rules, escaped from jail and wore beauty products when they weren't allowed.

[Josy]

its no different being in bb or being in the real world, if you have a fall out with someone the last thing you will want to do is cook for them,

lionel in the garden calling her a bitch.

It's actually very different.

[Videostar]

Well done Luisa for not cooking for Lionel & Jim, they show zero grattitude

LOL, how do you know, are you in there with them during meal time?

Luisa is the one who shows no gratitude to anyone and is selfish.

[thesheriff443]

If it were my turn to cook then yes, obviously I would have to.

Only selfish people who hold grudges (as Luisa said she doesn't hold grudges only yesterday) would be nasty enough to leave certain people out when she cooks.

if its a group thing that's different, I was thinking it was just those two.

[Josy]

LOL, how do you know, are you in there with them during meal time?

Luisa is the one who shows no gratitude to anyone and is selfish.

This is so true.

[thesheriff443]

It's actually very different.

I don't see it that way, they are just random people living together.

[Videostar]

if its a group thing that's different, I was thinking it was just those two.

But Jim and Lionel are a part of the group, so if she cooks for the group that includes those two, it's spiteful (and Luisa is showing a lot of that) to single out two people to not provide a meal for....and all because she's got issues with them that she caused.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Actually Luisa cooks for everyone everyday & is probably the most selfless

[Amy Jade]

Yes well he admitted that during the argument that he asked her to get them, but the house wasn't punished because he ate the chocs they were punished because Luisa broke the rules, escaped from jail and wore beauty products when they weren't allowed.
The chocolates must have been part of the rule break or they would not even be discussing them, I think the fact remains he wanted them, knew they were not meant to have been eaten but he ate them anyway and then he kicked off over it which is really hypocritical of him.

[Videostar]

I hope Ollie is re-thinking his silly and wrong reason for nominating Jim yesterday, if he doesn't like arguments in the house he should have nominated Luisa as she causes the most arguments.

[Moosething]

Lionel playin the old man

[Josy]

I don't see it that way, they are just random people living together.

So what? when one or two cooks they cook for the entire group so to say you are refusing to cook for anyone you have a problem with is extremely childish and petty IMO.

[Amy Jade]

Ermm has Luisa not done the cooking almost every day since they entered the house?

Hardly call that selfish.

[thesheriff443]

But Jim and Lionel are a part of the group, so if she cooks for the group that includes those two, it's spiteful (and Luisa is showing a lot of that) to single out two people to not provide a meal for....and all because she's got issues with them that she caused.

she is clearly p*ssed off, I can see where she is coming from.

[erinp5]

The chocolates must have been part of the rule break or they would not even be discussing them, I think the fact remains he wanted them, knew they were not meant to have been eaten but he ate them anyway and then he kicked off over it which is really hypocritical of him.

Luisa has told us repeatedly that she is a strong independent woman ,she could just have said NO.


She was breaking the rules the minute the task started by not handing in her lipstick /eyeliner.

[Josy]

Actually Luisa cooks for everyone everyday & is probably the most selfless

No she doesn't? Linda cooks.

[Josy]

In fact Dappy cooks too.

[thesheriff443]

So what? when one or two cooks they cook for the entire group so to say you are refusing to cook for anyone you have a problem with is extremely childish and petty IMO.

so is blaming someone for being punished when they them selves asked luisa to get the chocolates!.

[Amy Jade]

Luisa has told us repeatedly that she is a strong independent woman ,she could just have said NO.


She was breaking the rules the minute the task started by not handing in her lipstick /eyeliner.
Yeah I'm sure she could have said no and they all the straw clutchers would have been slating her for being selfish for just getting the champagne for herself and leaving the chocolates that Lionel had asked for. :idc:

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[MeMyselfAndI]

Whenever I watch BOT's Luisa cooks

[Videostar]

she is clearly p*ssed off, I can see where she is coming from.

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

[Lister of Smeg]

Lionel MOTHER ******IN Blair.

[Moosething]

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

Yeah but lionel needs to shut up

[Amy Jade]

Josy, Luisa does cook a lot. Linda might do too but Luisa has done a lot of the cooking.

[thesheriff443]

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.

I can but its very easy to sit here and judge.

[Josy]

Josy, Luisa does cook a lot. Linda might do too but Luisa has done a lot of the cooking.

I never said otherwise, I was replying to Jack saying Luisa cooks for everyone everyday, she doesn't.

[Amy Jade]

Can you not also see where the others are coming from? the whole group has suffered because of Luisa.
I could see why those who got no benefit from her rule break being angry, but Lionel ASKED her to get him the items and then gets angry over it?

That really makes no sense to me at all.

[Livia]

The chocolates must have been part of the rule break or they would not even be discussing them, I think the fact remains he wanted them, knew they were not meant to have been eaten but he ate them anyway and then he kicked off over it which is really hypocritical of him.

The conversation I think was turned around by Luisa to include the chocolates. The punishments weren't just for the chocolates... she stole champagne, she broke out of jail and she hung on to beauty products when she'd been told to hand them in. It was a series of rule breaks they were punished for. As usual though, Luisa deflects any kind of criticism and moans and kvetches while accusing other people of the same thing.

[Josy]

I can but its very easy to sit here and judge.

Isn't that what we all do? that's what almost every post on here is, judging what we see in BB.

[Amy Jade]

I never said otherwise, I was replying to Jack saying Luisa cooks for everyone everyday, she doesn't.
Then how's she selfish?

[Josy]

I could see why those who got no benefit from her rule break being angry, but Lionel ASKED her to get him the items and then gets angry over it?

That really makes no sense to me at all.

I understand what you are saying about Lionel concerning that specific rule break but she broke a few other rules knowing that the housemates would all suffer, don't you think that's selfish?

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpdp1KCQvKo

vpdp1KCQvKo

[Livia]

Isn't that what we all do? that's what almost every post on here is, judging what we see in BB.

Not me, I'm commenting with post-modern irony.

[Josy]

Then how's she selfish?

I think she's selfish due to what I posted above also keeping other housemates awake and finding it funny.

I think she's childish and petty refusing to cook for anyone she has a problem with.

I have posted that a few times in this thread.

[Cherie]

At the start of the vid you hear Jim say what Luisa did regarding the make up .If you watch the shopping task result BB punished the house for Luisa's rule breaks. I take it that all of this kicked off the argument .

Yeah they have to hand over any make up they neglected to hand over as part of the the shopping task.:joker:

[thesheriff443]

Isn't that what we all do? that's what almost every post on here is, judging what we see in BB.

oh course, but I not going to jump on luisa is the devil band wagon.

[Rob!]

Wait...so Lionel told Luisa to get some chocolates for him, which she did. They then got punished for it and now he's kicking off on here for doing what he asked her to do?

Sorry has dementia set in or something?

:laugh2:

This was my pretty much my view.

[Amy Jade]

I understand what you are saying about Lionel concerning that specific rule break but she broke a few other rules knowing that the housemates would all suffer, don't you think that's selfish?
Yeah it was I guess.

[Jords]

Lionel was telling Luisa he 'loved' her just on yesterday's show.

[Josy]

Not me, I'm commenting with post-modern irony.

Oh yeah of course, that too :laugh:

oh course, but I not going to jump on luisa is the devil band wagon.

Fair enough.

And I don't like Luisa haven't since day 1 so no bandwagon jumping here.

[Cherie]

Actually Luisa cooks for everyone everyday & is probably the most selfless

Linda cooks and Jim (as it was on twitter feed that Linda moaned he had cooked too much food for the group. :joker:)

[Videostar]

I could see why those who got no benefit from her rule break being angry, but Lionel ASKED her to get him the items and then gets angry over it?

That really makes no sense to me at all.

Fair point, but Luisa could have said no, so she broke the rules.

Why she's angry at Jim again is beyond me. lol, she really has issues with older people.

[Videostar]

Lionel was telling Luisa he 'loved' her just on yesterday's show.

Be fair, he's an old bloke, he probably forgot. :conf:

[thesheriff443]

Oh yeah of course, that too :laugh:



Fair enough.

And I don't like Luisa haven't since day 1 so no bandwagon jumping here.

so you're the band wagon driver:joker:

[Moosething]

Be fair, he's an old bloke, he probably forgot. :conf:

Lol yeah forgot ;)

[Cherie]

Fair point, but Luisa could have said no, so she broke the rules.

Why she's angry at Jim again is beyond me. lol, she really has issues with older people.

tbf she is probably angry at Jim as he put her up as Most Annoying HM yesterday and sent her to jail today as part of his one man democracy!

[Moosething]

8.31pm: Lionel's laying on the charm after his row with Luisa, telling each of the other HMs in turn how wonderful they are.

[Ammi]

Lionel was telling Luisa he 'loved' her just on yesterday's show.

..yeah,well he did love her in yesterdays show, he just doesn't love her in todays show....:laugh:...food is the way to a man's heart and she didn't cook any for him...

[Videostar]

tbf she is probably angry at Jim as he put her up as Most Annoying HM yesterday and sent her to jail today as part of his one man democracy!

Fair enough, that would be a good reason...but again, Luisa showing a total lack of self awareness as she has been the most annoying, at least she has to Jim.

Im sure Luisa will blame Jim for hating her because she's a "strong woman" when in fact we have all seen how bad she is in there. :joker:

[Videostar]

Lol yeah forgot ;)

He probably forgets he's Jim's friend too...at times. ;)

[Amy Jade]

Fair enough, that would be a good reason...but again, Luisa showing a total lack of self awareness as she has been the most annoying, at least she has to Jim.

Im sure Luisa will blame Jim for hating her because she's a "strong woman" when in fact we have all seen how bad she is in there. :joker:
He does hate strong women though judging by his past, that may not be his reason for disliking Luisa but it's quite clear he likes women to be seen not heard...

[MrWong]

Lionel was telling Luisa he 'loved' her just on yesterday's show.

Yes and the day before that he called her a ****ing cow.

He's a nasty ****bag tbh

[Videostar]

He does hate strong women though judging by his past, that may not be his reason for disliking Luisa but it's quite clear he likes women to be seen not heard...

I'd prefer Luisa to not be seen and not heard. :D

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mRfY2_BekY#t=113
0mRfY2_BekY#t=113

[erinp5]

10.00pm: While the show has been on, the big news is that Lionel and Luisa have made friends. For now, anyway

[Benjamin]

Hahahaha amazing, Luisa must stay. Good to see the house having to struggle for a few days, should make things kick off more. :devil:

Although I love how Lionel has a go at her when he was part of the reason she broke the rules. :laugh:

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctDPPNYra0
SctDPPNYra0

[erinp5]

More booze has arrived.
10.13pm: Dappy has requested more "refreshments" so they can "get on down". And by jove, he's done it. More drinks have arrived

[MTVN]

Well tonight showed they weren't really to blame equally like Luisa said, Lionel kept telling her to get down when BB were getting pissed off but it was obvious she had no intention of listening to either of them, after which he thought he may as well just accept it

[Benjamin]

Who cares, at least we can see them all suffer now.

-also loves how people adored Siavash and Marcus for rule breaking but hate Luisa for it-

[Jake.]

Well tonight showed they weren't really to blame equally like Luisa said, Lionel kept telling her to get down when BB were getting pissed off but it was obvious she had no intention of listening to either of them, after which he thought he may as well just accept it

Yet Lionel was fine to grab the glasses and request she go back and grab the chocolates? :laugh:

[Cherie]

Who cares, at least we can see them all suffer now.

-also loves how people adored Siavash and Marcus for rule breaking but hate Luisa for it-


I hope you are not talking about forum members Mr Ex Mod :tongue:


Lionel is 82 so channelling alzheimers in relation to the procurment of champagne and chocolates :laugh:

[MTVN]

Yet Lionel was fine to grab the glasses and request she go back and grab the chocolates? :laugh:

Yeah they were past the point of return at that point though lol, Luisa had shown she was gonna carry on with it anyway and once she had got the champagne he thought they might as well make use of it

Not saying Lionel wasn't loving it, he obviously was, but it wasn't really a joint effort when she initiated it and ignored both his and Big Brother's warnings to stop

[MTVN]

Though he probably should accept some responsibility seeing as he did enjoy reaping the rewards of her wrongdoing at the time

[Jake.]

More to the point, I actually couldn't care. I'd rather watch them go without luxeries, i'm sure they can cope for 2 days.

[MarcusMel]

HM's were punished because Luisa did not obey BB ans so they are on Cold water and some other deprevation. However Lionel did enjoy the chocolates when in the annoying room.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I really don't like Lionel

[CaudleHalbard]

I think overall Lionel is as asset to the show. More than can be said for the likes of Sam and Ollie.