Edinburgh :missing twin,3, Mother has Now Been Charged With Murder

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540440-1AB50FFD00000578-247_306x423.jpg

[Police hunting missing twin, three,
who vanished from his home overnight
Mikaeel Kular went to bed but mother
found he wasn't there this morning
Police say they have a helicopter
and officers on the streets in Edinburgh
Boy is 3ft and may be in beige
hooded jacket, brown shoes and
nightwear
Detectives say 'no evidence of criminality'
and he 'could be on his own'
Mikaeel lived with his mother and 4 siblings,
but his father lives elsewhere]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540440/BREAKING-NEWS-Police-hunt-three-year-old-boy-went-missing-home-overnight.html#ixzz2qYpaRkrN



wonder what went on?


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540440-1AB51B6400000578-859_634x536.jpg

[Niamh.]

I've read somewhere that the parents were in a custody battle, not sure how true that is but the article does say he lived with his mother and doesn't mention the father. Could be the father took him, hopefully he did and he's safe

[Kizzy]

His twin must be distraught :(
I hope he is found safe and sound soon.

[Josy]

They have the helicopter out now.

Hope he's found safe and well.

[Vanessa]

:sad:

[Kazanne]

I really hope this little fella is found safe and well

[Kate!]

Instincts say the father's taken him, but to take one twin and not both is odd?

[Niamh.]

Instincts say the father's taken him, but to take one twin and not both is odd?

Maybe this ones room was easier to access or maybe he just wanted the boy, I think the other twin was a girl, i don't know, just speculating maybe the father didn't even take him

[Jezzy]

Either it was someone with a key (most likely the father) or the boy has wandered off. I hope to God it's the former.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540440-1AB5A35D00000578-325_634x658.jpg

With Police searching every place with dogs

Someone must have him.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540440-1AB5672A00000578-64_306x423.jpg

[Nedusa]

Another missing Child case..........???

[Jezzy]

Another missing Child case..........???

Don't even tempt the comparisons :P

[AnnieK]

I wonder if he has woke early and wanted to see his dad and set off thinking he can get to his house? I hope its something completely innocent - anything else doesn't bear thinking about

[Jezzy]

I wonder if he has woke early and wanted to see his dad and set off thinking he can get to his house? I hope its something completely innocent - anything else doesn't bear thinking about

I am thinking along similar lines, Annie

[arista]

The police have Confirmed he has
his coat with him?

But is he in the water - thats the main fear?

[Z]

Heard about this earlier today, hope they manage to find him :(!

[BigSister]

My first instinct was the father too as theres no sign of a break in but would a 3 year old take their coat and shoes. my friend has a 2 year old and he cant dress himself.
I just hope that this has a happy ending

[user104658]

I'd say it's fairly likely that his dad - or another family member on his dad's side - has him.

[Natalie.]

Hope they find him soon :(

[AnnieK]

I'd say it's fairly likely that his dad - or another family member on his dad's side - has him.

I hope to god you're right.

[Kazanne]

Anymore news yet?

[arista]

Anymore news yet?


sadly not

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

It seems odd that the boy would dress himself and leave the house by himself really early, I mean he's only 3 years old.

[user104658]

:sad:

It seems odd that the boy would dress himself and leave the house by himself really early, I mean he's only 3 years old.

It does, especially going as far as a coat and shoes. And it also seems unlikely that an abductor would bother with a coat and shoes if they meant him any harm.

[GypsyGoth]

It does, especially going as far as a coat and shoes. And it also seems unlikely that an abductor would bother with a coat and shoes if they meant him any harm.

Very good point.

[Kazanne]

Praying for this kid

[Josy]

Really hope he's ok that's a long time now without anyone coming forward to say they had spotted him or that.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/1/16/282915/default/v1/tel-1-329x437.jpg

[GypsyGoth]

http://i.imgur.com/sGUPBBR.jpg

[Ninastar]

http://i.imgur.com/sGUPBBR.jpg

Is it m21?

[Z]

Really hope they find him, it was on the screens in the subway station this morning, can only hope it was his dad taking him away because he missed him and not something more sinister

[Niamh.]

It does, especially going as far as a coat and shoes. And it also seems unlikely that an abductor would bother with a coat and shoes if they meant him any harm.

Yeah very true, I really hope his father has him

[Nedusa]

This story does not ring true.......we are supposed to believe a 3 year old can get up in the middle of the night dress himself then open all the doors needed to be opened and then slip out quietly into the cold night.

Why....to go where ?? very very unlikely if not impossible I mean how would he even open the door I mean he's only 3 years old 2 foot tall probably unable to reach the locks let alone have the strength to turn the locks and push all the doors open.

And where would he go....would walk a mile in that cold and then drown in the sea ??

Again very unlikely.

I think there are probably simpler more plausible explanations for his disapperance. more likely a relative on his fathers side has helped him leave the property for whatever reason.I think he must have had adult help to leave the property.

Either way I hope the police find some evidence that suggests he has been helped by an adult and that it is connected with his estranged father and his relatives.

Lets hope this isn't another Maddie McCann in the making......!!!!

[arista]

This story does not ring true.......we are supposed to believe a 3 year old can get up in the middle of the night dress himself then open all the doors needed to be opened and then slip out quietly into the cold night.

Why....to go where ?? very very unlikely if not impossible I mean how would he even open the door I mean he's only 3 years old 2 foot tall probably unable to reach the locks let alone have the strength to turn the locks and push all the doors open.

And where would he go....would walk a mile in that cold and then drown in the sea ??

Again very unlikely.

I think there are probably simpler more plausible explanations for his disapperance. more likely a relative on his fathers side has helped him leave the property for whatever reason.I think he must have had adult help to leave the property.

Either way I hope the police find some evidence that suggests he has been helped by an adult and that it is connected with his estranged father and his relatives.

Lets hope this isn't another Maddie McCann in the making......!!!!



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Its been a long time for a 3 year old to be out alone?

The mother has said he can open the Door.

[lostalex]

Shirley Manson from Garbage tweeted about this earlier. Scotland is on the look out!

Britain is a small island, so he can't have gone far...

[Kazanne]

Shirley Manson from Garbage tweeted about this earlier. Scotland is on the look out!

Britain is a small island, so he can't have gone far...

It's not THAT small for a 3 year old to go missing.

[Kizzy]

No word from the dad yet?

[AnnieK]

That's a good point actually - I haven't heard his father really mentioned other than the news reports saying the mother and father are estranged. I hope he is with him but surely he would be the first port of call for officers and they would have mentioned the father had been questioned :conf: Have I missed something? I know it will be awful if its a father abduction as he's been taken from his mother but there are so many volunteers out searching that the Police must have some really serious concerns.... So so hope he is found safe

[Niamh.]

That's a good point actually - I haven't heard his father really mentioned other than the news reports saying the mother and father are estranged. I hope he is with him but surely he would be the first port of call for officers and they would have mentioned the father had been questioned :conf: Have I missed something? I know it will be awful if its a father abduction as he's been taken from his mother but there are so many volunteers out searching that the Police must have some really serious concerns.... So so hope he is found safe

Maybe the fact that they haven't mentioned him means that they can't find him but don't want to scare off even further by saying they're looking for him?

[AnnieK]

Maybe the fact that they haven't mentioned him means that they can't find him but don't want to scare off even further by saying they're looking for him?

Yeah good point...I would be a rubbish investigator, I'd be blabbing every two minutes!

[Josy]

There's apparently been a potential sighting Thursday morning..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-25772465

[Josy]

Sighted alone.

Hundreds of people have turned up to help search for him which I think is a great thing to see at least there's still a small sense of community around these days.

[Niamh.]

There's apparently been a potential sighting Thursday morning..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-25772465

Oh wow, people saw a 3 year old wondering around alone and they didn't go up and ask where his parents were?

[Josy]

Oh wow, people saw a 3 year old wondering around alone and they didn't go up and ask where his parents were?

Hmm yeah good point that actually.

The article doesn't say much about the sighting either just this

Police Scotland have said they believe there was a "potential sighting" of missing three-year-old Mikaeel Kular on Thursday morning.

Members of the public have reported seeing a young boy alone at about 08:30 in West Pilton Gardens, close to Mikaeel's home

[Kazanne]

Oh wow, people saw a 3 year old wondering around alone and they didn't go up and ask where his parents were?

Was just gonna post the same Niamh,a small boy was running along the pavement alone,wouldn't you stop or keep an eye on where he went?:conf:

[Niamh.]

Was just gonna post the same Niamh,a small boy was running along the pavement alone,wouldn't you stop or keep an eye on where he went?:conf:

Yeah, absolutely

[Munchkins]

Was just gonna post the same Niamh,a small boy was running along the pavement alone,wouldn't you stop or keep an eye on where he went?:conf:

I think it said that some of the witnesses were driving down the road when they saw a glimpse of a young boy, though if it is also ones on the street then i have no idea why they wouldnt ask him, why he was by himself.
I'm worried for this boy now, i really hope he is found, the mum must just feel absolutely sick, awful :(
If he has just wandered about, what has made him suddenly get up in the middle of the night and just go??

[arista]

3 is to young to be out alone


I think that report may not be him
as the kid had a hat on,
and Mikaeel does not like hats - his mother has said.

[Josy]

I hate to be the one to say it but something's not right here..

This little boy supposedly has not been to nursery since before Christmas because he was ill, he normally shares a room with his sister but not that night because he was ill yet he woke up in the night got dressed then left the flat, opening three pretty heavy doors by himself and no one heard a thing??

Has anyone even seen him lately before he went missing???

I'm really hoping he's found safe and well very soon, poor kid.

[Kazanne]

I hate to be the one to say it but something's not right here..

This little boy supposedly has not been to nursery since before Christmas because he was ill, he normally shares a room with his sister but not that night because he was ill yet he woke up in the night got dressed then left the flat, opening three pretty heavy doors by himself and no one heard a thing??

Has anyone even seen him lately before he went missing???

I'm really hoping he's found safe and well very soon, poor kid.

Yes something stinks,not sure this is accurate but picked it up from FB

This from Daily Mail article quote "A former neighbour claimed the children may have once been left alone at home when Miss Kular’s former husband was due to pick them up for the day.

Patricia Kilpatrick, 72, said: ‘He had come to take the kids on a Sunday but he couldn’t get them from inside the house.

‘She had gone out for the night and hadn’t come home so they were there in the house by themselves. Soon after that the police arrived to sort out everything.’

[BigSister]

No i agree with you josy something isnt quite right

[Cherie]

Sorry to say but there is something wrong with this whole story. He went out on his own at night, but put on a coat, smart 3 year old.

[Lee.]

I hate to be the one to say it but something's not right here..

This little boy supposedly has not been to nursery since before Christmas because he was ill, he normally shares a room with his sister but not that night because he was ill yet he woke up in the night got dressed then left the flat, opening three pretty heavy doors by himself and no one heard a thing??

Has anyone even seen him lately before he went missing???

I'm really hoping he's found safe and well very soon, poor kid.

I came on here to say exactly this josy.. I saw the helicopters out looking again today and had a horrible feeling they were wasting their time... Something definitely not right!

[Ammi]

Police investigating the disappearance of three-year-old Mikaeel Kular say he may have gone missing after a "criminal act".

The youngster has not been seen since his mother put him to bed on Wednesday night, prompting a major search in communities around his Edinburgh home.

Assistant Chief Constable Malcolm Graham, of Police Scotland, said there was now "grave concern" for the youngster, who he revealed has not attended nursery school since before Christmas


http://news.sky.com/story/1196868/mikaeel-kular-may-be-victim-of-criminal-act

[BigSister]

I was also wondering if this is something like what happened with shannon matthews like hide him for a while wait for a reward then let him out to be found. Or it could be hes already been murdered and are covering it up as an abduction/lost child

[Lee.]

I was also wondering if this is something like what happened with shannon matthews like hide him for a while wait for a reward then let him out to be found. Or it could be hes already been murdered and are covering it up as an abduction/lost child

That's crossed my mind too tbh.. I hope I'm wrong and the little one turns up somewhere, but the longer he's missing, the more doubtful that is..

[arista]

I was also wondering if this is something like what happened with shannon matthews like hide him for a while wait for a reward then let him out to be found. Or it could be hes already been murdered and are covering it up as an abduction/lost child



I really hope not

[Lee.]

Apparently the CCTV outside the flats was working.. Surely there must be something on that? I just don't understand.

[BigSister]

Oh no so do I arista I agree im just throwing theories out thats all.

[Ninastar]

they should talk to the people who work at the nursery... i have a small feeling that he wasn't at nursery for being 'ill'

we've seen cases like this and they never end too well

he had a few scars/scratches didn't he? All of this sounds too familiar. it's a strange case, but it sounds like his home life isn't exactly great.

perhaps i'm being judgmental, but i don't think everything is eye to eye and i wonder if his mother is being questioned.

[lily.]

Breaking on Sky News just now... the police have found a body of a young boy in Fife. They are saying it is him. :(

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

[lily.]

So sad. Someone has been detained in connection with this.. Not much in the way of details at the moment..

[Munchkins]

Omfg so so sad :(
just awful such a cute cute boy :( gone

[Josy]

Oh No :( so so sad.

[Natalie.]

That's really sad :(

[chuff me dizzy]

Just switched back on to post this, poor little fella, body found in Fife which is 28 miles away from his home, may he R.I.P

[Munchkins]

Feel so sorry for the little boys twin too :( devastating

[Kizzy]

Oh god :(
I really hoped it was just a custody issue.

[chuff me dizzy]

Just had BBC newsflash on my phone it said MAN has been detained,it didnt say that on Sky news did it ?

[Drew.]

James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky 7m
SKY SOURCES: person detained re #MikaeelKular is his Mum. Child's body found in Fife just before midnight

[smudgie]

The poor bairn.

[Josy]

Had tears in my eyes there watching that Policeman speak to the press, he was trying so hard to speak without his voice breaking, absolutely devastating.

Just had BBC newsflash on my phone it said MAN has been detained,it didnt say that on Sky news did it ?

James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky 7m
SKY SOURCES: person detained re #MikaeelKular is his Mum. Child's body found in Fife just before midnight

Conflicting reports then

[chuff me dizzy]

Mother detained, may she rot in hell

[Drew.]

Definitely his mum.

[Munchkins]

Oh my god if its his mum

[Munchkins]

So that other twin is going to grow up messed up :(

[Black Dagger]

Some people shouldn't be allowed to be parents, ****ing horrifying. R.I.P little man :sad:

[chuff me dizzy]

Had tears in my eyes there watching that Policeman speak to the press, he was trying so hard to speak without his voice breaking, absolutely devastating.





Conflicting reports then

Yes said on Sky news when they were talking to police PERSON, but flashed on my phone MAN

[GypsyGoth]

The mom is clearly a very ill person.

[Lee.]

The poor wee soul! I knew this would turn out this way. I just had a feeling this morning he was already dead :(

Does anybody know where in fife his body was found?

[GypsyGoth]

I don't think they released that info Lee.

[Jemal]

Whats the whole plot of this btw?
Just seen the news that hes dead.
But why are ppl blaming his mum? Is it similar to Madaleine saga?

[Lee.]

She's from Kirkcaldy in fife originally, I wonder if there's some connection there?

[GypsyGoth]

From what I know it's very different to Madaleine's case.

The mom reported this boy missing, saying he walked out of the house himself in the middle of the night.

I'm guessing police found cctv footage proving the mom was telling lies. Anyway she's under arrest and the boy's body was found in Fife, miles from where the family lived.

[Lee.]

Whats the whole plot of this btw?
Just seen the news that hes dead.
But why are ppl blaming his mum? Is it similar to Madaleine saga?

People aren't blaming the mum.. She's been arrested so there must be some evidence..

[Jemal]

Just seen that fife and Edinburgh are quite far apart.
Hmm..

[Jemal]

Also the young lad hadn't been seen at nursery before christmas?

[Lee.]

Just seen that fife and Edinburgh are quite far apart.
Hmm..

Parts of it are.. But I'm in fife and am about 20 minutes away from Edinburgh. Fifes a reasonable sized county though. He definitely couldn't have wandered here from Edinburgh though.. He'd have had to cross the Forth Bridge.

[Lee.]

Also the young lad hadn't been seen at nursery before christmas?

Yeah.. When I heard that earlier, it almost confirmed what I already thought :(

[Munchkins]

Also the young lad hadn't been seen at nursery before christmas?

Yeah due to an apparent chest infection or something

[Jemal]

Ye jenquisha of course..

I for one dont believe that, but thats just me.

[Jack.]

Some people shouldn't be allowed to be parents, ****ing horrifying. R.I.P little man :sad:

So true. It's awful that we are hearing about things like this happening all the time. Another poor little child gone. R.I.P Mikaeel :sad:

[Lee.]

According to a friend, there's a lot of police activity near Rosyth which is just over the Forth Road Bridge from Edinburgh. Might not be connected though.

[Jemal]

Is it fully confirmed that the body is actually the boy?

[Lee.]

Is it fully confirmed that the body is actually the boy?

I think so.. They've called off the search anyway and arrested the mum. God if what I'm hearing is true, I must have driven past where was found this morning! :(

I just watched the chief police fella talking about it.. He was almost in tears himself. So so sad.

[Jemal]

sigh.
what a **** mother, if all this is down to her i actually hope she rots in hell lol.

[Ammi]

..it's always inconceivable to me that a mother could harm their child in any way...this is so, so sad...

[arista]

James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky 7m
SKY SOURCES: person detained re #MikaeelKular is his Mum. Child's body found in Fife just before midnight


I am Angry with that Police Women in charge
who never gave us any idea it was the mother

[Ammi]

..he was found at her sister's house in Fife..?...


http://news.sky.com/story/1197026/mikaeels-mum-detained-as-body-discovered

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/18/article-2541111-1AB77C1E00000578-441_470x680.jpg
The Mother

[Marc]

So are we to assume she did it

[arista]

So are we to assume she did it


Yes until
the Slow police tell us more

[Marc]

We should really employ people to be in the fast police

[Jemal]

Lmao

[AnnieK]

Oh, that poor child :sad: I think she had 3 other children too whose lives will never be the same now. It's just heartbreaking

[Nedusa]

Just heard this news, so sad I wonder if the mother killed him accidentally and then panicked and each passing day became more and more desparate.

Terrible situation mothers don't normally kill their children , must be more to this perhaps she has mental health issues, what a sad situation and for his twin brother also who may be now removed from her care.....!!

[Jemal]

Ergh found in this auntiess house.
Lord help these idiots

[Kate!]

This is dreadful. :( God bless him, another little angel in heaven. R.I.P.

[Josy]

She visited the house alone sometime last week, I'm confused none of the other kids mentioned anything in front of the police about him not being there just before they got involved? unless they weren't around.

I honestly can't understand how a parent or anyone for that matter can do things like this especially to an innocent little kid and then have the gall to lead the police and the hundreds of civilians who turn up out of the kindess of their hearts to help on a wild goose chase all the time knowing exactly what has happened, there seems to be more of that happening these days though, they somehow think they will get away with it.

[Vicky.]

She visited the house alone sometime last week, I'm confused none of the other kids mentioned anything in front of the police about him not being there just before they got involved? unless they weren't around.

I honestly can't understand how a parent or anyone for that matter can do things like this especially to an innocent little kid and then have the gall to lead the police and the hundreds of civilians who turn up out of the kindess of their hearts to help on a wild goose chase all the time knowing exactly what has happened, there seems to be more of that happening these days though, they somehow think they will get away with it.

Maybe they expect to cash in from a fund, like some others did

This story is so sad..I was honestly expecting it to be the dad nicked him (read somewhere about a custody battle)

RIP little one. Cant imagine hurting any child, let alone my own

[Josy]

Maybe they expect to cash in from a fund, like some others did

This story is so sad..I was honestly expecting it to be the dad nicked him (read somewhere about a custody battle)

RIP little one. Cant imagine hurting any child, let alone my own

Ah yeah good point Vicky I never thought of that.

I also thought his dad had taken him at first but after the news came out about him not being at nursery and that I got a feeling something wasn't right.

Poor wee soul.

[Vicky.]

Didnt know about the nursery thing. Last I heard was custody battle and kid gone.

I was told about this by a taxi driver on the way back from work last night. Its just disgusting. Even if it turns out he wasnt killed, but the body was just hid after he died, thats just as sick to me tbh

[Kazanne]

So bloody sad ,you just knew it wasn't right didn't you ?

[Ninastar]

I knew it. It sounds awful but they should always look at the parents first in these types of circumstances...

were there no social workers involved or anything?

[Vicky.]

I knew it. It sounds awful but they should always look at the parents first in these types of circumstances...

were there no social workers involved or anything?

I think they usually do..parents then close family, and work outwards from there as the massive majority of the time 'missing' kids have something to do with the family.

I wonder if the aunt will be arrested too..as I find it a bit hard to believe if the body was found there she had no idea :/

[Lee.]

I knew it. It sounds awful but they should always look at the parents first in these types of circumstances...

were there no social workers involved or anything?

I read somewhere last night that when they lived in Kirkcaldy, she was known to social services :(

[Ninastar]

lol someone on my facebook just told me that it might not be the mother

come on... it's been a little obvious since the start

[Ninastar]

I read somewhere last night that when they lived in Kirkcaldy, she was known to social services :(

there is something very wrong with social services in this country. they should be allowed more power. they have to wait so long before they can actually do something and it's sad.

I wonder if anyone at the nursery suspected anything. if we have a child off for so long, we get concerned and make calls.

[Lee.]

lol someone on my facebook just told me that it might not be the mother

come on... it's been a little obvious since the start

At the minute I don't think she's been charged or even formally arrested, just detained to help the police with their investigation... I'm keeping an open mind just now, but although I really don't want it to be her, she must have known what had happened to him..

[Livia]

At the minute I don't think she's been charged or even formally arrested, just detained to help the police with their investigation... I'm keeping an open mind just now, but although I really don't want it to be her, she must have known what had happened to him..

I don't like posting and just saying "this", but... this

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/1/18/283271/default/v1/mikaeel-mum-cops-split-1-626x352.jpg


[Police investigating the disappearance
of missing Mikaeel begin to
search woodland behind his
aunt's home and continue to
detain his mother after the body
of a young boy is discovered
Body of young boy, thought to
be missing Mikaeel Kular, discovered
shortly before midnight last night
Mother-of-five, Rosdeep Kular, 33,
has been detained in connection with the find
Boy's aunt's house in Kirkcaldy, Fife,
sealed off by police with officers
searching a nearby woodland area
Residents in leafy area of Kirkcaldy
said they are in 'absolute shock' at
the news this morning
Assistant Chief Constable
Malcolm Graham
said the investigation will continue
and thanked public for support
Hundreds of local volunteers helped
in a search for the boy who disappeared
on Wednesday evening]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541111/Body-young-boy-recovered-Fife-one-person-detained-police-searching-missing-toddler-Mikaeel-Kular.html#ixzz2qkfOzoyv

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/18/mikaeel-kular-mother-detained-body-found-fife


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/17/article-2541111-1ABE5FC400000578-799_964x526.jpg
Yesterday people wasting time

[Z]

I'm so sad to hear this :( that poor boy...

[bbfan1991]

Such awful news:(. RIP Mikaeel.

[chuff me dizzy]

I knew it. It sounds awful but they should always look at the parents first in these types of circumstances...

were there no social workers involved or anything?

Ive read they were taken into care a while ago, and not long since allowed back home

[Ammi]

A memorial service is also taking place tonight at Edinburgh's St Andrew's Muirhouse Parish Church.

Candles were given out at the door before the service, which was open only to the local community


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/body-found-hunt-missing-mikaeel-kular-010946583.html?vp=1#xz5sIs1

[Lee.]

:( I can't stand seeing his gorgeous wee face everywhere!

The police will have to either release the mum, charge her or formally arrest her later on tonight.

[Ammi]

:( I can't stand seeing his gorgeous wee face everywhere!

The police will have to either release the mum, charge her or formally arrest her later on tonight.

..yeah, we still don't know whether she will be charged yet...

[Cherie]

Can't see how she cannot be charged he didn't walk to Fife on Thursday she must know something about it. Poor little mite.

[Z]

This really creeps me out. That poor wee boy :(

[Lee.]

Can't see how she cannot be charged he didn't walk to Fife on Thursday she must know something about it. Poor little mite.

I'm positive she knows what happened to him.. But did she actually murder him? Did he die by accident and she's tried to cover it up? Or did somebody else kill him and she's covering for them? The whole thing baffles me!

[arista]

The Mother has been Charged with his Death


SkyNewsHD Live

[Mikaeel Kular's Mother Charged Over His Death]

http://news.sky.com/story/1197350/mikaeel-kulars-mother-charged-over-his-death


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/1/18/283215/default/v1/mikaeel-mum-split-1-1-626x352.jpg

[Lee.]

God almighty! That's just beyond belief :(

[Lee.]

Just put the news on.. It says she's been charged but no mention of murder?

[Lee.]

Sorry.. Just saw the police stamens saying she's been charged with his death

[Josy]

Sorry.. Just saw the police stamens saying she's been charged with his death

Possibly died through neglect or something?

[Lee.]

Possibly died through neglect or something?

Yeah.. They've not used the word murder. I kind of thought that he'd maybe died through negligence or something and she's tried to hide it :(

[arista]

Just put the news on.. It says she's been charged but no mention of murder?



I have changed the murder word.


[The mother of three-year-old Mikaeel Kular has been
arrested and charged in connection with his death.
The body of a young boy was discovered in woodland
near her former home in Kirkcaldy, Fife, early on Saturday,
following a major search for the missing youngster.
A post-mortem examination is understood to be taking place this evening in Edinburgh.
The discovery is understood to have been made on land surrounding
a house in Kirkcaldy, Fife, which is owned by Mikaeel's aunt Pandeep Kular.
The body was removed from the scene at around 3pm on Saturday afternoon.]

[arista]

Possibly died through neglect or something?


Thats so sad

[lostalex]

poor little fella. :( rest in peace.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/1/19/283360/default/v1/mikael-tributes-compo-1-522x293.jpg

Tomorrow the mother is in Court
I wonder if the Crowds will attack the van?

[Z]

Some people don't deserve to have children.

[Niamh.]

Some people don't deserve to have children.

Yep. Poor little kid :(

[AnnieK]

Have they said what happened to him yet. It's just so sad :sad:

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/20/article-2542368-1AD30B6000000578-541_964x639.jpg
She is going to Closed court - no press

After that we expect Police to tell us the charges
today



[Miss Kular, who has split up with the boy's father,
told potential suitors she was looking for a
masculine man but added that her children
would always come first, according to "The Sun." ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542368/Body-young-boy-recovered-Fife-one-person-detained-police-searching-missing-toddler-Mikaeel-Kular.html#ixzz2qwU2ShVR

[Z]

God...

[Ammi]

..I just really can't say anything about this until we know the details of what happened at the trial...

[Nedusa]

I'm confused about this either she was responsible for his death in which case murder or manslaughter should be the charge...but to charge her with neglect ???

The boy is dead so did she kill him or neglect him to the point he starved to death either way it's murder , even manslaughter would be too low a charge ...!!!!

[Lee.]

I'm confused about this either she was responsible for his death in which case murder or manslaughter should be the charge...but to charge her with neglect ???

The boy is dead so did she kill him or neglect him to the point he starved to death either way it's murder , even manslaughter would be too low a charge ...!!!!

We don't know what she's been charged with yet :(

[arista]

We don't know what she's been charged with yet :(



In the next few hours we will
after she has been in court

[arista]

Charged With Murder


Live


Mikaeel Kular's Mother Charged With Murder
http://news.sky.com/story/1197799/mikaeel-kulars-mother-charged-with-murder


She remains Locked up until next court date

[Lee.]

****ing hell! That poor wee soul.. And his siblings! :(

[arista]

Yes Guilty Evil Woman



[Rosdeep Kular, 33, has been charged with the murder of her son as well
as attempting to defeat the ends of justice
She appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court
today for a brief hearing and did not enter a plea
Mother of three-year-old who was found dead
last week remanded in custody ahead
of a hearing on January 28
Ms Kular reported Mikaeel missing on Thursday
morning and his body was found in woodland after two days]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542612/Mikaeel-Kulars-mother-Rosdeep-Kular-appears-court-sons-death.html#ixzz2qxWzuYFv


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/18/article-2541111-1AC678FA00000578-800_964x984.jpg
RIP: A boy holds up a placard saying 'Mikaeel Kular, you'll be missed in the community's heart, sleeptight'

[Ammi]

Meanwhile, there have been several arrests over suspected offensive tweets in relation to Mikaeel's disappearance.

Derbyshire Police arrested a 26-year-old man, while Hampshire Police said a 19-year-old man had been bailed on suspicion of posting a racially offensive comment.

"We are investigating the message to assess whether any criminal offences have been committed," said a spokesman for Hampshire Police


..and this as well...?...you really do have to wonder about some people on the internet...

[AnnieK]

Ah no....:sad:

[arista]

Meanwhile, there have been several arrests over suspected offensive tweets in relation to Mikaeel's disappearance.

Derbyshire Police arrested a 26-year-old man, while Hampshire Police said a 19-year-old man had been bailed on suspicion of posting a racially offensive comment.

"We are investigating the message to assess whether any criminal offences have been committed," said a spokesman for Hampshire Police


..and this as well...?...you really do have to wonder about some people on the internet...


But its normal.

[Lee.]

But its normal.

No it's not.. The comments weren't directed at the mother, but at the wee boy :(

[Nedusa]

No it's not.. The comments weren't directed at the mother, but at the wee boy :(

I hadn't heard about this..........totally sick if true !!!

[Niamh.]

No it's not.. The comments weren't directed at the mother, but at the wee boy :(

Yeah I so one of the comments, disgusting assholes out there

[Ammi]

I hadn't heard about this..........totally sick if true !!!


http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/mikaeel-kular-warning-over-racist-tweet-arrests-1-3273282

[arista]

No it's not.. The comments weren't directed at the mother, but at the wee boy :(



Yes but this has been Stuck on our news
for Days.
All kinds of Freaks go online


It is Normal.


what was said online?

[Lee.]

Yes but this has been Stuck on our news
for Days.
All kinds of Freaks go online


It is Normal.



what was said online?

Saying that he deserved to die.. For being a Pakistani

God I hate even typing that

[Ammi]

..it isn't 'normal' to say those things though...

[arista]

Saying that he deserved to die.. For being a Pakistani

God I hate even typing that



Typical BNP


Why bother posting this

[arista]

..it isn't 'normal' to say those things though...



Online It Is

[Lee.]

Online It Is

Nah, somebody who would even think those things in their head let alone type them aren't normal!

[Ammi]

Online It Is

..it can't be 'normal' if it's against the law..?..which is completely apart from how cruel and despicable it is...

[arista]

Nah, somebody who would even think those things in their head let alone type them aren't normal!


Of Course
but Online all kinds of people post to get you upset

[arista]

..it can't be 'normal' if it's against the law..?..which is completely apart from how cruel and despicable it is...


But this goes on all the time
they think they can not be traced.



Yes its Evil to say it
but sadly normal for online

[arista]

Nah, somebody who would even think those things in their head let alone type them aren't normal!


Sure they are Evil


but I mean this goes on all the time.

[Ammi]

But this goes on all the time
they think they can not be traced.



Yes its Evil to say it
but sadly normal for online


..yeah, I'm glad that they can be traced and charged and hopefully it'll make people think about being 'keyboard warriors'...

[Nedusa]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/mikaeel-kular-warning-over-racist-tweet-arrests-1-3273282

Thanks for the link Ammi, so it is true

Wonder what they actually said..........can't believe some people would find a racist angle to this story.........

[Kazanne]

Saying that he deserved to die.. For being a Pakistani

God I hate even typing that

Lee,things like this make me so mad and sad,what sort of person would stoop so low,I despair of the human race sometimes:bawling:

[arista]

Back on Topic

This Evil Woman
now charged with Murder

[Jezzy]

Just terrible.

[AnnieK]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/20/article-2542368-1AC70A8D00000578-729_470x530.jpg
Back on Topic

This Evil Woman
now charged with Murder

That's her sister isn't it.

[arista]

That's her sister isn't it.


Yes I will Edit it


thanks

[Z]

Appalling. Will reserve my judgment until she's properly sentenced.

[Josy]

Mikaeel's cause of death was revealed last week

http://news.sky.com/story/1220865/mikaeel-kulars-cause-of-death-revealed

His mum wasn't allowed to attend his funeral but they let her out to see his body before it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-26465481

[Ammi]

..I guess if she had been allowed at the funeral, it could have turned out to be something which didn't show respect to him at all...

[Ninastar]

So what happened to him? Was it his mum?

[Ammi]

So what happened to him? Was it his mum?


..his mum has been charged with his murder, she hasn't been tried yet, though...

[Ammi]

The mother of a three-year-old boy whose supposed disappearance sparked a desperate search for him involving thousands of members of the public has admitted beating him to death.


Rosdeep Adekoya, 34, was originally charged with murder but pleaded guilty at the High Court in Edinburgh to the reduced charge of culpable homicide.


The single mother-of-five, an unemployed beauty therapist, told police on January 16 that her son Mikaeel had disappeared from the room he shared with his twin sister, in a flat in the Drylaw area of the city.


But her admission that she punched and beat him over four days is certain to lead to demands for an inquiry into the way social workers dealt with the family.


The twins were taken into foster care in Fife after Adekoya left all five children at home in July 2012 without proper supervision to go out in Edinburgh

The three older children were initially looked after by her estranged husband, while the twins were placed in emergency care. Weeks earlier, her mother Harjinder Kular had twice contacted social services after her daughter started going out and drinking to excess.

The twins were returned to Adekoya in August 2013, by which time she had moved to Edinburgh and was again looking after all five children.

The family was then monitored by Fife Council, until December 2013, just weeks before the fatal attack. It is understood that social workers never formally handed over the case to colleagues in Edinburgh.

Police found Mikaeel's body late on the second day of the search, hidden in woodland behind the house in Kirkcaldy, Fife, that the killer formerly shared with her sister.

Adekoya, who appeared under her married name although she is estranged from the father of her three eldest children, admitted repeatedly beating her son over four days, between January 12 and 15.

She then wrapped his body in a duvet cover, put it in a suitcase and drove it across the Forth Road Bridge to Kirkcaldy where she hid it in bushes.

In an attempt to cover up the crime, she then called 999 and reported her son missing, telling police he got out of bed, climbed on a stool and unlocked the front door of their home.

She dabbed her eyes repeatedly with tissues as the detail of her assault on her son was read to the court.

Her internet history revealed searches including, "I find it hard to love my son", "I love all of my children except one", "Why am I so aggressive with my son" and "Get rid of bruises".

The court heard that Mikaeel died on the night of Tuesday January 14 from injuries inflicted the previous Sunday.

His mother "lost her temper" after he was repeatedly sick following a trip to a Nando's restaurant at the city's Fountain Park.

She smacked him and struck him on the body and head with a clenched fist, the court heard.

When Mikaeel was sick for a third time, she dragged him to the shower by his arms and "beat him heavily" on his back as he lay over the bath.

Mr Prentice said: "It's likely that the internal damage was inflicted during this last beating."

Over the next few days Mikaeel's condition worsened and he was kept off nursery. He was assaulted again on the Monday after being sick and becoming "listless". The court was told Adekoya did not take him to a doctor because of the bruising.

Alex Prentice, prosecuting, told the court that the guilty plea was accepted by the Crown on the basis that she had “no intention to kill Mikaeel and that the assault perpetrated upon him, although severe, fell short if the wicked recklessness required for murder”.

He added that Mikaeel was quiet on Tuesday night and would have been in significant pain when he was put to bed.

Adekoya found his body on the floor when she went to wake the children in the morning. She took his sister to nursery, before driving his body to Fife and waited 24 hours to report him “missing”.

Officers who went to the flat reported that she initially appeared "very upset and distressed", but inconsistencies began to appear in her story.

During a police interview she broke down and told officers: "It was an accident and I panicked. I am going to go to the jail."

Asked where Mikaeel was, she replied: "In the woods behind my sister's house."

The final cause of death was found to be "blunt force abdominal trauma".

Mikaeel had more than 40 separate injuries to his body, including bruises to his back, chin and cheek, trauma to the brain, haemorrhage in the spinal cord and injuries to his arms.

Following her arrest in January, it emerged that despite having five children by two men, the self-confessed social butterfly continued to lead a partying lifestyle.

One of her friends was 25-year-old Mohammed Abdi, who was killed in a drug gang gun battle in Edinburgh last year.

She will be sentenced on August 25


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10990681/Mikaeel-Kulars-mother-admits-killing-three-year-old-boy.html

[AnnieK]

I read this last night...horrific. Beating him was heinous enough but then leaving him to die in pain for 2days is just beyond words

[Ammi]

I read this last night...horrific. Beating him was heinous enough but then leaving him to die in pain for 2days is just beyond words

..I know, she obviously knew how unwell she was though with the things she had googled on the internet..maybe thinking she could change things/her feelings toward him..?..

[Cherie]

That poor little lad.

[Lee.]

That poor boy. I'll never understand how anybody could do that to one of their children. Cruel bitch! I hope she spends the rest of her life locked up.

[Kazanne]

Read that with great sadness,just so so cruel,wicked woman,RIP little man.

[Jake.]

Very sad. What a cruel, cruel woman.

[Ninastar]

I hope she ****ing rots. Cruel, evil woman.

[Kizzy]

This is so odd, why turn against one of twins? It makes no sense :(

[lily.]

Kizzy, have you ever read 'A Child Called 'It''... It's a true life story by Dave Pelzer. He was the 2nd of five boys, and his mother abused him terribly. She didn't abuse any of the others. It's a horrific read, but it goes some way to explain how this kind of abuse can happen to one child in a bigger family.

I read it before my son was born, and to be honest, I don't think I would have been able to finish it had it been after. It was very upsetting, but I do recommend it. There are a series of the books, telling his story from his childhood years of abuse to where he is now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

her internet searches prior to the murder are horrible

[Kizzy]

Kizzy, have you ever read 'A Child Called 'It''... It's a true life story by Dave Pelzer. He was the 2nd of five boys, and his mother abused him terribly. She didn't abuse any of the others. It's a horrific read, but it goes some way to explain how this kind of abuse can happen to one child in a bigger family.

I read it before my son was born, and to be honest, I don't think I would have been able to finish it had it been after. It was very upsetting, but I do recommend it. There are a series of the books, telling his story from his childhood years of abuse to where he is now.

I have, I know it happens and I think it was amazing he survived to tell his tale... but it doesn't explain why these 'mothers' do these things.

[Livia]

Before she's sentenced she should be spayed like the dog she is.

[Josy]

The mother was sentenced to 11 years.

[Kizzy]

is that all?!... :(

[Nedusa]

The mother of a three-year-old boy whose supposed disappearance sparked a desperate search for him involving thousands of members of the public has admitted beating him to death.


Rosdeep Adekoya, 34, was originally charged with murder but pleaded guilty at the High Court in Edinburgh to the reduced charge of culpable homicide.


The single mother-of-five, an unemployed beauty therapist, told police on January 16 that her son Mikaeel had disappeared from the room he shared with his twin sister, in a flat in the Drylaw area of the city.


But her admission that she punched and beat him over four days is certain to lead to demands for an inquiry into the way social workers dealt with the family.


The twins were taken into foster care in Fife after Adekoya left all five children at home in July 2012 without proper supervision to go out in Edinburgh

The three older children were initially looked after by her estranged husband, while the twins were placed in emergency care. Weeks earlier, her mother Harjinder Kular had twice contacted social services after her daughter started going out and drinking to excess.

The twins were returned to Adekoya in August 2013, by which time she had moved to Edinburgh and was again looking after all five children.

The family was then monitored by Fife Council, until December 2013, just weeks before the fatal attack. It is understood that social workers never formally handed over the case to colleagues in Edinburgh.

Police found Mikaeel's body late on the second day of the search, hidden in woodland behind the house in Kirkcaldy, Fife, that the killer formerly shared with her sister.

Adekoya, who appeared under her married name although she is estranged from the father of her three eldest children, admitted repeatedly beating her son over four days, between January 12 and 15.

She then wrapped his body in a duvet cover, put it in a suitcase and drove it across the Forth Road Bridge to Kirkcaldy where she hid it in bushes.

In an attempt to cover up the crime, she then called 999 and reported her son missing, telling police he got out of bed, climbed on a stool and unlocked the front door of their home.

She dabbed her eyes repeatedly with tissues as the detail of her assault on her son was read to the court.

Her internet history revealed searches including, "I find it hard to love my son", "I love all of my children except one", "Why am I so aggressive with my son" and "Get rid of bruises".
The court heard that Mikaeel died on the night of Tuesday January 14 from injuries inflicted the previous Sunday.

His mother "lost her temper" after he was repeatedly sick following a trip to a Nando's restaurant at the city's Fountain Park.

She smacked him and struck him on the body and head with a clenched fist, the court heard.

When Mikaeel was sick for a third time, she dragged him to the shower by his arms and "beat him heavily" on his back as he lay over the bath.

Mr Prentice said: "It's likely that the internal damage was inflicted during this last beating."

Over the next few days Mikaeel's condition worsened and he was kept off nursery. He was assaulted again on the Monday after being sick and becoming "listless". The court was told Adekoya did not take him to a doctor because of the bruising.

Alex Prentice, prosecuting, told the court that the guilty plea was accepted by the Crown on the basis that she had “no intention to kill Mikaeel and that the assault perpetrated upon him, although severe, fell short if the wicked recklessness required for murder”.

He added that Mikaeel was quiet on Tuesday night and would have been in significant pain when he was put to bed.

Adekoya found his body on the floor when she went to wake the children in the morning. She took his sister to nursery, before driving his body to Fife and waited 24 hours to report him “missing”.

Officers who went to the flat reported that she initially appeared "very upset and distressed", but inconsistencies began to appear in her story.

During a police interview she broke down and told officers: "It was an accident and I panicked. I am going to go to the jail."

Asked where Mikaeel was, she replied: "In the woods behind my sister's house."

The final cause of death was found to be "blunt force abdominal trauma".

Mikaeel had more than 40 separate injuries to his body, including bruises to his back, chin and cheek, trauma to the brain, haemorrhage in the spinal cord and injuries to his arms.

Following her arrest in January, it emerged that despite having five children by two men, the self-confessed social butterfly continued to lead a partying lifestyle.

One of her friends was 25-year-old Mohammed Abdi, who was killed in a drug gang gun battle in Edinburgh last year.

She will be sentenced on August 25


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10990681/Mikaeel-Kulars-mother-admits-killing-three-year-old-boy.html

Wow.. how is this (in bold) even possible ??





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