causing trouble

[Josy]

Luisa knew fine well that another argument would happen that's why she went straight from Jim to Linda and **** stirred.

**** stirrers should be made to lick the spoon :idc:

[CaudleHalbard]

Luisa wants to win! ;)

[GiRTh]

Yes. Agreed. She's a manipulative bitch.

[Benjamin]

That'll teach Jim to be a dick then. :pipe:

[smudgie]

She does stir the pot, makes for good viewing though.

[Samm]

Why do people have a big deal when people cause trouble that's what keeps the series entertaing

[mizzy25]

Oh she was definitely stirring 1st with that then relaying what Lee had said about Casey, yes not to Casey but prob knowing fine well someone would tell her and Linda did just that, not out of spite from Linda. Luissas smug look when Linda went to pull Jim and saying oh don't say anything, whilst smirking. Actually shes prob doing Linda and Casey a favour now they are actually getting shown.

[smeagol]

she's a total b atch. i dont buy her act. i'm all skocked up on sneaky hoes lol

[Josy]

That'll teach Jim to be a dick then. :pipe:

Even if you hate Jim you must be able to admit he wasn't the cause of that argument tonight?

[MTVN]

Hmm I didn't really mind her that much tonight, tbf Jim did tell her to ask Linda what happened in Frank Carson's dressing room and then she did try and prevent Linda from going back out there and said several times that Jim hadn't actually mentioned her husband

Linda was worse tonight

[HD]

I swear half of you lot want a series with a happy house.

Stop, just stop.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/01/article-0-027CB69500000578-393_468x329.jpg

[Me. I Am Salman]

I swear half of you lot want a series with a happy house.

Stop, just stop.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/01/article-0-027CB69500000578-393_468x329.jpg

THIS FOR ****S SAKE
-loved Kathreya though-

[AnnieK]

That'll teach Jim to be a dick then. :pipe:

Doesn't do her any favours though.....

[Munchkins]

I swear half of you lot want a series with a happy house.

Stop, just stop.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/01/article-0-027CB69500000578-393_468x329.jpg

Agreed haha

[Kazanne]

Linda HATES when Jim is getting along with the others,when Luisa was talking about her little girl and stuff and Jim asked her a question,Linda butted in in a nasty way,Why cant she just let him mingle with the others and shut the **** up,she is much worse than Colleen

[joeysteele]

Linda HATES when Jim is getting along with the others,when Luisa was talking about her little girl and stuff and Jim asked her a question,Linda butted in in a nasty way,Why cant she just let him mingle with the others and shut the **** up,she is much worse than Colleen

She is.
I laughed though when Luisa who clearly hadn't a clue who Frank Carson was went to Linda and said the name Freddie Carson.

[Jack_]

I swear half of you lot want a series with a happy house.

Stop, just stop.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/01/article-0-027CB69500000578-393_468x329.jpg

[2]

Like, yeah maybe she was sh*t stirring...but that's a good thing?

[Munchkins]

Kathreyas eviction was such a highlight, she had it so clued up in her mind that her gameplan had worked and she would easily win, and she failed, getting less votes than someone like Rex (a legend)

[Z]

Kathreyas eviction was such a highlight, she had it so clued up in her mind that her gameplan had worked and she would easily win, and she failed, getting less votes than someone like Rex (a legend)

I was delighted when Mo and Kat were evicted. Mo was a **** housemate and Kat was insufferable, so sly but it was hidden behind this breezy "innocent" exterior with all these kitsch catchphrases and fake concern for other housemates... like when Lisa and Sara were in the Prisoner's Dilemma task, she was being overdramatic in the living room and couldn't hide her disappointment that their bloc voting had just given their two victims £50k each :joker:

[Jords]

It was Jim's words not Luisa at the end of the day. She was inquisitive and theres no problem in that.

[MarcusMel]

Not sure how people can say 'Luisa wants to win' when from the crowd noise it clearly says she can't win. Luisa will know that mostly boys win BB so it would be a surprise if a female won. Next look at the way she handles the crowd shouting her name, like it’s all a big joke. The only worry would be if it is affecting her business('s). She probable thinks it would be nice to win but she does not need to win it. Please look at the information you are being given and show how you make these odd deductions or are they just feelings of how you think things should be?

[optimisticcynic]

Not sure how people can say 'Luisa wants to win' when from the crowd noise it clearly says she can't win. Luisa will know that mostly boys win BB so it would be a surprise if a female won. Next look at the way she handles the crowd shouting her name, like it’s all a big joke. The only worry would be if it is affecting her business('s). She probable thinks it would be nice to win but she does not need to win it. Please look at the information you are being given and show how you make these odd deductions or are they just feelings of how you think things should be?

Luisa isn't a celebrity but, having appeared in The Apprentice and enjoyed her 5mins of infamy, she likely craves more of the same, like the thousands of "I'm a stunning, sexy intelligent one-in-a-million" wannabes that grace our screens and tabloids daily. She recognises she lacks a skillset that could afford her fame, and has opted for infamy which seems to pay as well these days, using CBB to boost her profile. I'm waiting for an argument with Jim where he highlights she isn't a celebrity, stating that CBB had actually wanted the winner of the Apprentice but that she had been too busy actually working.

[MarcusMel]

Luisa isn't a celebrity but, having appeared in The Apprentice and enjoyed her 5mins of infamy, she likely craves more of the same, like the thousands of "I'm a stunning, sexy intelligent one-in-a-million" wannabes that grace our screens and tabloids daily. She recognises she lacks a skillset that could afford her fame, and has opted for infamy which seems to pay as well these days, using CBB to boost her profile. I'm waiting for an argument with Jim where he highlights she isn't a celebrity, stating that CBB had actually wanted the winner of the Apprentice but that she had been too busy actually working.

The only way one can deduce that Luisa 'craves' fame is from the fact that she agreed to appear on CBB. Fame is not actually a good thing if you want to have a private life and protect your child from press harassment. Luisa is likely going to know this so it would be more likely a free publicity stunt for her business. An interesting choice of the word infamy, which merely expresses the belief that you think her lifestyle choice, is unacceptable to you and people of the same beliefs. This is similar to the way the jews regarded the Samaritans or Christians regarded the Jews or etc...

Where did I read/hear judge not unless you be judged yourself?

[optimisticcynic]

The only way one can deduce that Luisa 'craves' fame is from the fact that she agreed to appear on CBB. Fame is not actually a good thing if you want to have a private life and protect your child from press harassment. Luisa is likely going to know this so it would be more likely a free publicity stunt for her business. An interesting choice of the word infamy, which merely expresses the belief that you think her lifestyle choice, is unacceptable to you and people of the same beliefs. This is similar to the way the jews regarded the Samaritans or Christians regarded the Jews or etc...

Where did I read/hear judge not unless you be judged yourself?

Sucking face in hot tubs with strangers on national tv, getting rappers you clearly detest to lick your nipples and constant talk of sex parties and snide bitching, whilst admitting a "who gives a ******* about anyone but me" attitude is likely not the best publicity for cupcake venture. Her lifestyle choice is of no consequence to me and will not affect my work tomorrow, but she portrays this image of herself as part of a television show that I watch and I have thus formed an opinion, a factor intended by the makers of the show, as a crucial component of said show is that viewers call in to vote based on their opinions.

You have made me chuckle though by drawing a parallel between my opinion of Luisa and the Samaritans/Jews/Christians. Clearly a fan of understatement...

[Rob!]

She's such a **** stirring bitch. :love:

[Northern Monkey]

She is a full on **** stirrer but she is a good housemate for sure.

[MarcusMel]

Sucking face in hot tubs with strangers on national tv, getting rappers you clearly detest to lick your nipples and constant talk of sex parties and snide bitching, whilst admitting a "who gives a ******* about anyone but me" attitude is likely not the best publicity for cupcake venture. Her lifestyle choice is of no consequence to me and will not affect my work tomorrow, but she portrays this image of herself as part of a television show that I watch and I have thus formed an opinion, a factor intended by the makers of the show, as a crucial component of said show is that viewers call in to vote based on their opinions.

You have made me chuckle though by drawing a parallel between my opinion of Luisa and the Samaritans/Jews/Christians. Clearly a fan of understatement...

Respect to the chuckle!:wavey:

However I find it odd that you think Luisa detests Dappy. If she detested Dappy it is doubtful she would be playing the truth or dare game with him. It is good that you form an opinion, I wonder if opionions are based on gut reaction or on deduction. You have the opinion that X detests Y based on the fact that they had an arguement! How many married couples must detest each other if that was true!

[optimisticcynic]

Respect to the chuckle!:wavey:

However I find it odd that you think Luisa detests Dappy. If she detested Dappy it is doubtful she would be playing the truth or dare game with him. It is good that you form an opinion, I wonder if opionions are based on gut reaction or on deduction. You have the opinion that X detests Y based on the fact that they had an arguement! How many married couples must detest each other if that was true!

During said argument, Luisa called him a little wannabe gangster, berated his IQ, called him a pig, and stated his mother should be ashamed of him. When angered, I rarely burst into fluent Russian as I have no prior knowledge of the language. Luisa did not struggle to produce these clearly held opinions of Dappy. Hence I deduce she has little respect for him and will not be meeting him for cocktails in Sloane Square once the show is over. She also was repeatedly filmed bitching about him with Jasmine in bed, stating how she really feels, despite her antics in the hot-tub when drunk. She is not Dappy's friend and does not really wish to be, but will keep him on-side until he is no longer a useful ally. That is my deduction.

[jet]

Luisa knew fine well that another argument would happen that's why she went straight from Jim to Linda and **** stirred.

**** stirrers should be made to lick the spoon :idc:

Jim asked Luisa to ask Linda...and because she did it is all Luisa's fault? Not one mention that Jim is actually the **** stirrer because he asked her to do it...oh no.
Once again, nothing is ever Jim's fault.

Tell me you are taking the piss Josy.

[Sophiee]

I don't really think in this instance she intended to. jim told her to ask about frank carson's dressing room, she was curious so she did. it was linda who blew it all out of proportion and made it into some massive deal.

[MarcusMel]

During said argument, Luisa called him a little wannabe gangster, berated his IQ, called him a pig, and stated his mother should be ashamed of him. ...snip... She is not Dappy's friend and does not really wish to be, but will keep him on-side until he is no longer a useful ally. That is my deduction.

Dappy and Luisa made up and have since been seen getting along reasonably, I take this to mean that Luisa and possibly Dappy do not hold further anger/grudge for each other’s emotional manipulation to hurt the other during their prolonged misunderstanding of opinions about behaviour. This aspect of Luisa's personality causes me to feel respect at the ability to not hold a grudge.

[optimisticcynic]

Dappy and Luisa made up and have since been seen getting along reasonably, I take this to mean that Luisa and possibly Dappy do not hold further anger/grudge for each other’s emotional manipulation to hurt the other during their prolonged misunderstanding of opinions about behaviour. This aspect of Luisa's personality causes me to feel respect at the ability to not hold a grudge.

She has no room for concern about others' opinions or harsh words as she is completely preoccupied with herself. It's a miracle she even remembers the other housemates names when there are so many mirrors in there to distract her.

[jet]

I don't really think in this instance she intended to. jim told her to ask about frank carson's dressing room, she was curious so she did. it was linda who blew it all out of proportion and made it into some massive deal.

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world. D:

[MarcusMel]

She has no room for concern about others' opinions or harsh words as she is completely preoccupied with herself. It's a miracle she even remembers the other housemates names when there are so many mirrors in there to distract her.

Ok now back that opinion up with things you have seen Luisa do. Is it a real opinion or just a fun idea thinking that the post would get me upset?

:dance:

Goodnight :hugesmile: :sleep:

[optimisticcynic]

Ok now back that opinion up with things you have seen Luisa do. Is it a real opinion or just a fun idea thinking that the post would get me upset?

:dance:

Goodnight :hugesmile: :sleep:

Luisa wanted champagne, Luisa drank champagne.
Luisa wanted to wear make-up, Luisa drank make-up.
Luisa has stated that she is not bothered about anyone else or their opinion unless it is beneficial to her.
Luisa was exactly the same in the Apprentice.

Deffo not trying to upset you, and unsure why my opinion on luisa would upset you. Actually what I think at the moment. Good chat. Good night.

[Kizzy]

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world. D:

Don't worry that's normal for this time of year ;)

[Josy]

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world. D:

I never said the argument was Luisa's fault? the argument had already been started at that point by LINDA but Luisa was still **** stirring..

I have posted numerous times tonight that Jim was in the wrong bringing up what he did but Linda still started the argument, so how about you admitting that rather than blame everything on Jim because you dislike him...

[jet]

I never said the argument was Luisa's fault? the argument had already been started at that point by LINDA but Luisa was still **** stirring..

I have posted numerous times tonight that Jim was in the wrong bringing up what he did but Linda still started the argument, so how about you admitting that rather than blame everything on Jim because you dislike him...

If you read my posts then you would know I was referring to the 'Frank Carson' incident only. You said in your opening post:

Luisa knew fine well that another argument would happen that's why she went straight from Jim to Linda and **** stirred.

**** stirrers should be made to lick the spoon

I responded:


Jim asked Luisa to ask Linda...and because she did it is all Luisa's fault? Not one mention that Jim is actually the **** stirrer because he asked her to do it...oh no.
Once again, nothing is ever Jim's fault.

Tell me you are taking the piss Josy.

If you weren't talking about the Frank Carson incident then what where you talking about?

If you still insist Jim was not to blame for asking Luisa to do it in the first place, then in no way will I feel inclined to tell you what I thought about the very start of the argument.

[Mystic Mock]

When Dappy can't do it Luisa can!:dance::devil::joker:

[Sophiee]

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world. D:
oh no, I most definitely think it was jim's fault. I can't stand the man and I believe he starts the majority of arguments/bad feeling between himself and others. I just don't see luisa did anything at all wrong in this situation :shrug:.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world. D:

It's the Aaron complex where Jim Davidson is placed on a pedestal where simultaneously he can do no wrong and everyone wrongs him. Like ffs he planted that seed with Luisa and it was an awful seed

[Rachael1904]

The girl is big wooden spoon. She spreads gossip in that house quicker than I hit send on my emails.

[Jake.]

He told her to go and ask, so she did?

[Munchkins]

He told her to go and ask, so she did?

FFS Jake, theres no need to go around spouting the truth for people to see:nono: go and spout some fabricated rubbish to demonize Luisa instead

[Jake.]

:laugh: