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Benji_
16-01-2014, 09:11 PM
who's side are you on?

GiRTh
16-01-2014, 09:13 PM
Dont care its good TV.

Munchkins
16-01-2014, 09:14 PM
Jim, he is misogynistic, and thats annoying BUT he does admitt his faults, Linda went in there with a personal vendetta against Jim and has not let it go.

Vanessa
16-01-2014, 09:15 PM
Jim. Linda has done nothing but goad him the whole time. :nono:

minty3
16-01-2014, 09:15 PM
Don't care hate them both

joeysteele
16-01-2014, 09:16 PM
No contest for me,Jim all the way, she was rotten,truly rotten tonight. Also needing her usual audience of the other women too.

Macie Lightfoot
16-01-2014, 09:16 PM
Linda without a doubt. She's a straight shooting mama bear and to be quite honest Jim as a casting choice is abhorrent and it's rather distasteful that he's even in the house.

Ammi
16-01-2014, 09:16 PM
..neither ones, Linda's anger didn't seem to have any reason but his reaction by mentioning something that he knew would be extremely painful was extremely low...it's hard to take sides when two people both act so badly...

mizzy25
16-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Linda this time.

smudgie
16-01-2014, 09:17 PM
I would have to vote Linda.
Jim is a disgrace bringing the incident with her dead husband up.

Verbal
16-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Jim is a misogynist, slightly racist, arguably homophobic to a degree and he is honest about it.

He's of the old school comedians when this type of humour was tolerated and celebrated, see Bernard Manning, Chubby Brown etc etc

Kazanne
16-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Jim

Videostar
16-01-2014, 09:18 PM
Jim is a misogynist, slightly racist, arguably homophobic to a degree and he is honest about it.

He's of the old school comedians when this type of humour was tolerated and celebrated, see Bernard Manning, Chubby Brown etc etc

So that's a vote for Jim then.? :joker:

Verbal
16-01-2014, 09:19 PM
So that's a vote for Jim then.? :joker:

Yes, he is what he is and makes no apologies for it. Linda deserved it. Play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

Jordan.
16-01-2014, 09:21 PM
Yes, he is what he is and makes no apologies for it. Linda deserved it. Play with fire, you're gonna get burned.

Could say the same about Luisa, I assume you support her as well?

Samm
16-01-2014, 09:22 PM
Linda >

I don't like her that much but I would vote for her over Jim

Verbal
16-01-2014, 09:23 PM
Could say the same about Luisa, I assume you support her as well?

I like her yes, purely because she is not afraid to say what is on her mind, whether people like it or not. I respect that. Its a rare quality in this sugar coated, lets get offended at anything and everything society.

Macie Lightfoot
16-01-2014, 09:25 PM
Seriously I don't know how ANYONE is possibly defending Jim but of course this forum finds some way to. He clearly set Luisa up to say something about Linda's husband to upset her and then pretended that it never happened. One of the lowest blows in reality TV.

smeagol
16-01-2014, 09:25 PM
no one deserves the vendetta and unreasonable blind hatred that she has for him,
whether you like him or not is irrelevant . she's a mental case who has been trying her best since day 1 to get him and get everybody to hate him.

Josy
16-01-2014, 09:27 PM
I don't agree with what Jim brought up tonight but in general I think he's the one being wronged by Linda rather than the other way about like she tries to get everyone in there to believe, she's pushed and pushed him from day 1 IMO.

So yeah I chose Jim in the poll.

joeysteele
16-01-2014, 09:28 PM
..neither ones, Linda's anger didn't seem to have any reason but his reaction by mentioning something that he knew would be extremely painful was extremely low...it's hard to take sides when two people both act so badly...

Well, and you know I love you Ammi, she used it to make it look as if it was painful for her, it wasn't though it seems painful enough for her not to very soon then start joining with the other women in sticking the knife in Lee too.

Linda has in my view, wanted the chance to really play the victim from going in as to Jim and she interrupted his conversation with Luisa with her own put down of him.
She,to me, opened up the aggression tonight and once again I hope it will backfire on her as I doubt even I could have held my patience and tongue against her tonight.
I haven't a single ounce of sympathy for her.

Macie Lightfoot
16-01-2014, 09:28 PM
Also the hypocrisy is rich in that everyone here has been on a crusade against Linda for holding onto Jim's past but loves Jim for bringing up Linda's past. And it's quite ironic for Jim Davidson to be pulling up something from someone else's past.

joeysteele
16-01-2014, 09:29 PM
I don't agree with what Jim brought up tonight but in general I think he's the one being wronged by Linda rather than the other way about like she tries to get everyone in there to believe, she's pushed and pushed him from day 1 IMO.
So yeah I chose Jim in the poll.

He is bigtime and this is her agenda.

Munchkins
16-01-2014, 09:29 PM
I like her yes, purely because she is not afraid to say what is on her mind, whether people like it or not. I respect that. Its a rare quality in this sugar coated, lets get offended at anything and everything society.

Completely agree with this
Luisa>>

BigBrotherfan4ever
16-01-2014, 09:31 PM
I million % agreed with Linda, Jim is just a vile man .....IMHO

Patricia4
16-01-2014, 09:32 PM
Jim all the way.

sampvt
16-01-2014, 09:33 PM
Jim was wrong to bring it up if he had nothing to do with it but we don't know what happened. Was Jim involved somehow and She hates him for that or did she take a hating to him because, as Jim says, he had an argument with her husband over the theft. It seems to me that whatever Jim does cant be right in some peoples eyes but you cant get away from the fact that the evil cow wont let him in peace.

Verdict.....If she fell out with Jim because he had an argument with her hubby over the theft, then its current and its tit for tat. Jim hasn't blown off at her, she is doing all the blowing.

Verbal
16-01-2014, 09:34 PM
Jim was wrong to bring it up if he had nothing to do with it but we don't know what happened. Was Jim involved somehow and She hates him for that or did she take a hating to him because, as Jim says, he had an argument with her husband over the theft. It seems to me that whatever Jim does cant be right in some peoples eyes but you cant get away from the fact that the evil cow wont let him in peace.

Verdict.....If she fell out with Jim because he had an argument with her hubby over the theft, then its current and its tit for tat. Jim hasn't blown off at her, she is doing all the blowing.

I think it was in the dressing room of one of Jim's shows. Hence his involvement.

joeysteele
16-01-2014, 09:34 PM
Jim was wrong to bring it up if he had nothing to do with it but we don't know what happened. Was Jim involved somehow and She hates him for that or did she take a hating to him because, as Jim says, he had an argument with her husband over the theft. It seems to me that whatever Jim does cant be right in some peoples eyes but you cant get away from the fact that the evil cow wont let him in peace.

Verdict.....If she fell out with Jim because he had an argument with her hubby over the theft, then its current and its tit for tat. Jim hasn't blown off at her, she is doing all the blowing.

She is indeed and looking more and more stupid too for it.

sampvt
16-01-2014, 09:40 PM
apparently Jim was the main reason why her hubby was arrested according to her and that's why she hates him. She has an agenda on the show now. She knows she cant win but she would rather Jim got kicked out and she wont let it rest. Jim gave her a slap with a theory in the hope she shut up but it backfired and now all the PC brigade are up in arms. I doubt if its all over yet.

Kazanne
16-01-2014, 09:41 PM
I think it was in the dressing room of one of Jim's shows. Hence his involvement.

Frank Carson was Jims friend and lindas husband stole from him

joeysteele
16-01-2014, 11:25 PM
Frank Carson was Jims friend and lindas husband stole from him

Yet she has the audacity to look down on others, miserable old trout.

cheeky_monkey
16-01-2014, 11:30 PM
I'm on Linda's side.

Jack_
16-01-2014, 11:40 PM
Neither, really. I'm just enjoying it for what it is - good TV. I actually hope they offend each other even more, because I'd love to see Jim finally explode and potentially expose himself.

I'm a bit baffled by the mindset of some people on here, sure, have your opinions on either side of the fence, but why wish that the person you aren't siding with wasn't in the house? That makes no sense to me, I'm loving these arguments and finding these age old feuds that they seem to have which each other fascinating, I hope they continue - why anyone would want them to stop is beyond me :shrug: and the same goes for Luisa's arguments too, and even Jasmine, Lee and Casey's love triangle - the ins and outs of all of these issues are the reason this series is so popular and is being talked about more than usual, yet people want this to stop by evicting the housemates involved?

Most of these housemates are just dreadful people, on that I am sure we can all agree...but...I want them to be dreadful people, I want them to show themselves up even more all for our viewing pleasure. That's what the beauty of this show is.

On the subject of Jim himself - I do always judge people on their actions within side the house, I think it's only fair to judge them all with a clean slate, and so far he's provided a fair bit of entertainment and has made me laugh, therefore I like him. But he is sexist and I do think he's masquerading his true views and his true self, he is clearly trying to stop himself from coming across badly so that he can improve his public perception. That doesn't make him a good person. Like I said, I'm enjoying him as a housemate and so far inside the house he's been fairly nice (albeit passive aggressive and thrown a few sexist remarks around - but that's important so that drama ensues), but I do think it's an act. I'm not buying this 'he's a changed man'.

Robodog
17-01-2014, 12:24 AM
.

Tonight Linda finally got what she's wanted. She has been drilling Jim non stop from day one, trying constantly to provoke him into an argument. So far Jim hasn't fallen into the trap and so far, no matter how hard Linda has tried - Jim has always walked away.

Tonight though he finally cracked. He made a bad choice in mentioning something upsetting from the past but to be honest he has done well to hold his tongue for so long.

She was really gunning for him - again - tonight for no reason other than wanting an argument. She drilled him over his totally normal question about Luisa being ok having no man, tried to turn everyone against him (as usual) then falsely accused Jim of calling her an asshole, which he never said.

If she hadn't been on his back all night (let alone the amount she has been on at him since before the show even started) then he never would have felt pushed to say anything at all!

She has started this whole argument since the show began, yet he has always been the one to try and make up and make light of it.

Then tonight - she went too far and also so did he.

The big difference between them though is that from the start - she has been constantly trying to have an argument with him and he has been constantly trying to avoid one with her.

Loukas
17-01-2014, 12:26 AM
Linda but only just.. They were both being stupid.

Z
17-01-2014, 12:27 AM
Neither, really. I'm just enjoying it for what it is - good TV. I actually hope they offend each other even more, because I'd love to see Jim finally explode and potentially expose himself.

I'm a bit baffled by the mindset of some people on here, sure, have your opinions on either side of the fence, but why wish that the person you aren't siding with wasn't in the house? That makes no sense to me, I'm loving these arguments and finding these age old feuds that they seem to have which each other fascinating, I hope they continue - why anyone would want them to stop is beyond me :shrug: and the same goes for Luisa's arguments too, and even Jasmine, Lee and Casey's love triangle - the ins and outs of all of these issues are the reason this series is so popular and is being talked about more than usual, yet people want this to stop by evicting the housemates involved?

Most of these housemates are just dreadful people, on that I am sure we can all agree...but...I want them to be dreadful people, I want them to show themselves up even more all for our viewing pleasure. That's what the beauty of this show is.

On the subject of Jim himself - I do always judge people on their actions within side the house, I think it's only fair to judge them all with a clean slate, and so far he's provided a fair bit of entertainment and has made me laugh, therefore I like him. But he is sexist and I do think he's masquerading his true views and his true self, he is clearly trying to stop himself from coming across badly so that he can improve his public perception. That doesn't make him a good person. Like I said, I'm enjoying him as a housemate and so far inside the house he's been fairly nice (albeit passive aggressive and thrown a few sexist remarks around - but that's important so that drama ensues), but I do think it's an act. I'm not buying this 'he's a changed man'.

Fantastic post

Jords
17-01-2014, 12:45 AM
Jim.

Linda constantly baits Jim, always tells him they dont like each other to fuel it and has made no real attempt to repair damage and if not befriend, meet each other as an acquaintance. Furthermore shes out to get the house against him.

I do understand why she got upset though.

Sophiee
17-01-2014, 01:16 AM
I don't like either but team linda all the way. I'm concerned at the fact jim is winning this poll. he has the tendency to wind up the others but can't take it when it all backfires on him.

jet
17-01-2014, 01:27 AM
Seriously I don't know how ANYONE is possibly defending Jim but of course this forum finds some way to. He clearly set Luisa up to say something about Linda's husband to upset her and then pretended that it never happened. One of the lowest blows in reality TV.

:worship:

Northern Monkey
17-01-2014, 01:28 AM
Jimbo for sure!It's good that he finally revealed why Linda won't get off his back.

Kizzy
17-01-2014, 01:28 AM
Linda, they have had a few tiffs while tipsy but this was another level, just cruel and unnecessary to bring that up. There's no justifying that to me.

jet
17-01-2014, 01:37 AM
Neither, really. I'm just enjoying it for what it is - good TV. I actually hope they offend each other even more, because I'd love to see Jim finally explode and potentially expose himself.

I'm a bit baffled by the mindset of some people on here, sure, have your opinions on either side of the fence, but why wish that the person you aren't siding with wasn't in the house? That makes no sense to me, I'm loving these arguments and finding these age old feuds that they seem to have which each other fascinating, I hope they continue - why anyone would want them to stop is beyond me :shrug: and the same goes for Luisa's arguments too, and even Jasmine, Lee and Casey's love triangle - the ins and outs of all of these issues are the reason this series is so popular and is being talked about more than usual, yet people want this to stop by evicting the housemates involved?

Most of these housemates are just dreadful people, on that I am sure we can all agree...but...I want them to be dreadful people, I want them to show themselves up even more all for our viewing pleasure. That's what the beauty of this show is.

On the subject of Jim himself - I do always judge people on their actions within side the house, I think it's only fair to judge them all with a clean slate, and so far he's provided a fair bit of entertainment and has made me laugh, therefore I like him. But he is sexist and I do think he's masquerading his true views and his true self, he is clearly trying to stop himself from coming across badly so that he can improve his public perception. That doesn't make him a good person. Like I said, I'm enjoying him as a housemate and so far inside the house he's been fairly nice (albeit passive aggressive and thrown a few sexist remarks around - but that's important so that drama ensues), but I do think it's an act. I'm not buying this 'he's a changed man'.

Very perceptive thoughts Jack.

james130
17-01-2014, 01:48 AM
I like Jim, but thought he was below the belt tonight.
He kept saying that he said "is it about Frank Carson" which pissed me off as well, because he clearly said "ask her about Frank Carson." I thought he was better than that. :idc:

cheeky_monkey
17-01-2014, 01:51 AM
Phillip Schofield is team Linda.

Can read what he said on twitter: https://twitter.com/Schofe/with_replies

Coleen Nolan tweeted: https://twitter.com/NolanColeen

reece(:
17-01-2014, 02:01 AM
Linda without a doubt. She's a straight shooting mama bear and to be quite honest Jim as a casting choice is abhorrent and it's rather distasteful that he's even in the house.
This

Mystic Mock
17-01-2014, 02:02 AM
I think both had points in the argument, but I do feel that Linda overreacted slightly.

Seraphim
17-01-2014, 02:56 AM
Hi - I'm new, but couldn't resist commenting on this thread. I can't stand Linda now. She looks as if she's sucking a lemon all the time, and her favourite hobby is whinging. She's like a witch sitting on that bed, sucking everyone who'll listen into her nastiness. I have no idea about Jim as a person, but why is she trying to turn everyone else against him. I think that's horrible. As far as I am concerned, Jim has been a saint to have tolerated her as long as he has. I don't like the comment he made, unless he truly thought her hatred of him might be related to it, but who can blame him. She has been odious to watch - spends a sizable portion of her time sitting in bed and bitching about him, and the rest giving him daggers or being downright nasty to him. It's noteable that she made a big drama out of his comment tonight, which helped her to avoid having to explain what it was all about. Naturally as soon as she'd got everyone's sympathy, the tears soon vanished and she got embroiled in bitching about some other drama.

Macie Lightfoot
17-01-2014, 03:09 AM
On the subject of Jim himself - I do always judge people on their actions within side the house, I think it's only fair to judge them all with a clean slate, and so far he's provided a fair bit of entertainment and has made me laugh, therefore I like him. But he is sexist and I do think he's masquerading his true views and his true self, he is clearly trying to stop himself from coming across badly so that he can improve his public perception. That doesn't make him a good person. Like I said, I'm enjoying him as a housemate and so far inside the house he's been fairly nice (albeit passive aggressive and thrown a few sexist remarks around - but that's important so that drama ensues), but I do think it's an act. I'm not buying this 'he's a changed man'.

The only thing with me is that as a casting choice, I find him abhorrent. Even more so considering he was originally slated to be on CBB11 with Brian hosting. It's the same reason I couldn't get behind Ron Atkinson as a casting choice at all. When your history as a celebrity is just that shady, I don't think CBB or any reality TV show for that matter is the best platform to be featured on.

But yeah, the other stuff is true. He's not changed whatsoever, he admitted that if he was himself he'd be ejected by now, he admitted that he's sexist (and his actions confirm that), and he's extremely passive aggressive. I can't with people saying Linda's the passive aggressive one when Jim's whole MO is to approach a woman with an incredibly patronizing comment, roll his eyes when said woman understandably gets defensive, and then mutter away and have a cigarette while making comments about how he's always wrong and of course there's another argument, even though he's been the root of almost all of them.

rusticgal
17-01-2014, 07:16 AM
Jim at the moment....depends on what really happened between them...then I might be a bit more understanding to the situation.

joeysteele
17-01-2014, 08:03 AM
Jim.

Linda constantly baits Jim, always tells him they dont like each other to fuel it and has made no real attempt to repair damage and if not befriend, meet each other as an acquaintance. Furthermore shes out to get the house against him.

I do understand why she got upset though.

She does constantly bait him. I agree,it isthis always playing to the audience as to trying to turn others against him too that has really annoyed me with her.

I am really glad this poll hasn't come down on her side.

Patricia4
17-01-2014, 08:22 AM
She is vile she will not give up on him she is digging at him all the time she's done it since day one how much more can he take.

HBB1508
17-01-2014, 08:49 AM
Jim - totally. Why shouldn't he ask Luisa if she a man in tow - it's conversation to someone he really doesn't know why should that make him a mysogonist fgs - Linda jumps on him everytime he opens his mouth and gets all the other witches on her side - she is odious. As for Jim bringing up the real reason she hates him - why not, if she's still harbouring a grudge after all this time she really is a bitter old cow imo.

Niamh.
17-01-2014, 09:17 AM
I don't agree with what Jim brought up tonight but in general I think he's the one being wronged by Linda rather than the other way about like she tries to get everyone in there to believe, she's pushed and pushed him from day 1 IMO.

So yeah I chose Jim in the poll.

Yeah i agree with this, i think his way of snapping was bringing up whatever bloody happened in that dressing room. I have a feeling that there's probably more to the story then him just having an argument with Lindas husband too but really Linda should have let it be in the house

Black Dagger
17-01-2014, 09:47 AM
Phillip Schofield is team Linda.

Can read what he said on twitter: https://twitter.com/Schofe/with_replies

Coleen Nolan tweeted: https://twitter.com/NolanColeen

When the likes of Phil Schofield, Denise Welch and Coleen are team Linda, that says it all.

And lol at that Brian tweet, he was a ****ing mess on Hells Kitchen.

lostalex
17-01-2014, 09:48 AM
Linda.

Jim is a manipulative misogynist.

Z
17-01-2014, 09:48 AM
Yeah i agree with this, i think his way of snapping was bringing up whatever bloody happened in that dressing room. I have a feeling that there's probably more to the story then him just having an argument with Lindas husband too but really Linda should have let it be in the house

Yeah I don't think we have the full story here, Jim's just uncovered the tip of the iceberg. It would be weird if Linda was actively holding a grudge over Jim maybe having something to do with her husband getting caught stealing cash from someone's dressing room - while that would have been embarrassing at the time and there would have been some anger there, I can't imagine anyone being that angry about it for this long?

Nia-96
17-01-2014, 10:34 AM
I don't agree with Jim or Linda in the argument, however I voted for Jim because I find that Linda is constantly nitpicking and trying to find ways of falling out with him. Judging on what I've seen in the house I like Jim

Lister of Smeg
17-01-2014, 10:43 AM
Jim's Linda is a bitter old bint who has been out to get a rise out of Jim since day 1.

cheeky_monkey
17-01-2014, 12:15 PM
When the likes of Phil Schofield, Denise Welch and Coleen are team Linda, that says it all.

I'm glad Phillip, Denise, Coleen and some others are team Linda and supporting her and not just Jim getting all the support from his fans.

But I think Linda and Jim fans should just agree to disagree. :)

flamingGalah!
17-01-2014, 12:16 PM
Jim. Linda has been goading him into an argument since day one & twists everything he says, then uses what Jim said to get sympathy, when SHE brought up her dead husband, not Jim! :facepalm:

Munchkins
17-01-2014, 12:16 PM
When the likes of Phil Schofield, Denise Welch and Coleen are team Linda, that says it all.

And lol at that Brian tweet, he was a ****ing mess on Hells Kitchen.

:joker: Denise is such an abhorrent woman, so glad so many are united on that front

Jake.
17-01-2014, 12:22 PM
He did drop to a very low point of bringing up something which he knew would provoke a reaction of upset, however she's been praying for him to slip up for the past three weeks. Neither came off good in the argument, but I do think that Linda has been proding him with a stick, waiting for him to bite back. And she got what she wanted.

Slevin
17-01-2014, 12:27 PM
I like Jim, but thought he was below the belt tonight.
He kept saying that he said "is it about Frank Carson" which pissed me off as well, because he clearly said "ask her about Frank Carson." I thought he was better than that. :idc:
holy hell a Jim fan that isnt completely biased.

anyways im not on either side. Jim went below the belt and Linda was picking at him. they both throw comments at each other. they both seem to love this feud and having these arguments. Jim/Linda fan or not they were both wrong but its fantastic.

Pete.
17-01-2014, 07:32 PM
Linda

Jordan.
17-01-2014, 07:37 PM
She is vile she will not give up on him she is digging at him all the time she's done it since day one how much more can he take.

I seriously can't at the overreaction. Anyone would think she's made him suicidal.

Me. I Am Salman
17-01-2014, 07:38 PM
Linda because I don't condone bigotry and beating the life out of women

Me. I Am Salman
17-01-2014, 07:39 PM
I seriously can't at the overreaction. Anyone would think she's made him suicidal.

This:umm2:

ABigbother
17-01-2014, 09:12 PM
Linda is a right miserable cow,
get over yourself women.