if you think you are in love after 2 days...

[lostalex]

Then you don't know what love is.

Casey is the psycho bunny boiler stalker. I really don't understand anyone who is feeling sympathy for her. Lee was flirting yes, but Casey was a total bunny boiler from the start, and Lee explained to her many times that he wasn't into her, and even told her about how much he was into Jasmine many times.

Why are so many people painting Casey as the victim here? she's a total bunny boiler. She's obsessive and psychotic.

She is obviously playing a reality show victim based on her experience on reality shows in the past. Why are so many people on this forum stupid enuf to buy into it? I really hoped that BB fans would be more savvy than to buy into her crap.

[Kate!]

?? His actions did not reflect his words though now did they? In the Bolthole for example, he talked to her about Jasmine and then lay on the bed cuddling Casey and stroking her legs.

[sampvt]

Some people think the love for a pet rabbit or a woman is the same. We oldies know that love is misspelt, its actually spelt LUST, not LOVE.

[lostalex]

?? His actions did not reflect his words though now did they? In the Bolthole for example, he talked to her about Jasmine and then lay on the bed cuddling Casey and stroking her legs.

Because he was FORCED to be with her. First the handcuffs, then the Bolt Hole, whenever he had a choice he never spends time around her though. Notice every time he had FREEDOM he was away from her. It was only because he was FORCED to be around her that he ever showed her any attention.

Whenever he has been free, he showed her no attention.

Shame on him for being nice to someone he was FORCED to be CHAINED to.

[Niamh.]

She never said she was in love with him though and I think it's more him making a complete idiot out of her that's got her so annoyed and upset

[Northern Monkey]

I think she probably went in thinking she would be the most desirable female in there,Got cuffed to Lee and thought,Sweet showmance time.Then when Lee showed interest in Jasmine it scuppered her plans for a celebrity romance with a famous boyband member and also bruised her ego,Hence why she is so pissed off.He is an idiot too though as he's made himself look as bad as he possibly could and given her victim status.The whole thing backfired for both of them due to stupidity.

[bez87]

Wow and there we have it the first person i've seen who is in Lee world *Claps*

I mean the guy said he liked her and wanted to see how things go out side, the girl even go lee to the side and asked him outside what was going on and if they should stop it or did you miss this episode, he turned round and said no he really liked her and he kissed her, what more does a girl need, a bunny boiler do you even know the meaning of that.

cuddles kisses, even turning round to her saying i've never had anyone make me feel this way in a long time, that were his exact words to casey, she fell for it, and now she is hurt, honestly i wonder what people are watching sometimes and there morals in life because if you think this is down to casey then wow your morals are messed up

[Kate!]

Yes he was handcuffed to her, he still kissed and cuddled her of his own free will, nobody FORCED him to do any of that. He was blatantly keeping his options open.

[MeMyselfAndI]

"We oldies"
So patronising, older people don't always know best.

I think Lee has feelings for Jasmine, Casey even knew so & threw herself at Lee

[MeMyselfAndI]

"We oldies"
So patronising, older people don't always know best.

I think Lee has feelings for Jasmine, Casey even knew so & threw herself at Lee

[Gusto Brunt]

Then you don't know what love is.

Casey is the psycho bunny boiler stalker. ...

Very true. I liked her at first but I she's just like Luisa, an immature slapper.:shocked:

[lostalex]

I think she probably went in thinking she would be the most desirable female in there,Got cuffed to Lee and thought,Sweet showmance time.Then when Lee showed interest in Jasmine it scuppered her plans for a celebrity romance with a famous boyband member and also bruised her ego,Hence why she is so pissed off.He is an idiot too though as he's made himself look as bad as he possibly could and given her victim status.The whole thing backfired for both of them due to stupidity.

egggsactly.

[lostalex]

She never said she was in love with him though and I think it's more him making a complete idiot out of her that's got her so annoyed and upset

He didn't make her look stupid though, it was only her obsession with him that made her look stupid. Her acting like they were a couple in love after only 2 days is what made her look dumb. She humiliated herself.

[Niamh.]

He didn't make her look stupid though, it was only her obsession with him that made her look stupid. Her acting like they were a couple in love after only 2 days is what made her look dumb. She humiliated herself.

I disagree with that and I don't think she looked stupid either just felt like she did, I think Lee just looked like an arsehole

[lostalex]

I disagree with that and I don't think she looked stupid either just felt like she did, I think Lee just looked like an arsehole

why didn't she pick up on the fact that as soon as he had any freedom from her (not chained to her or forced to be in a room with her) that he preferred spending time with other people?

The ONLY time he ever showed any attention to her, was when he was FORCED to by big brother!

[Niamh.]

why didn't she pick up on the fact that as soon as he had any freedom from her (not chained to her or forced to be in a room with her) that he preferred spending time with other people?

The ONLY time he ever showed any attention to her, was when he was FORCED to by big brother!

Being made to spend time with someone doesn't mean you are forced to kiss, cuddle and tell them how much like them and want to go on holiday with them etc etc

[bez87]

Wow i love how you lot pick a choose parts just like Lee does to turn it round lol

Lee even told Casey he liked her and all that, or have you just forgotten that

the only thing casey wanted was for lee just to cool it was jasmine while around her, Casey likes lee thats obvious and she didn't want to feel hurt it's out of respect from a guy should of took a step back, casey never said not for him to get with jasmine she just didn't want it so full on and that is all. wow some people take it and spin it so it looks like something else lol

[bez87]

He didn't make her look stupid though, it was only her obsession with him that made her look stupid. Her acting like they were a couple in love after only 2 days is what made her look dumb. She humiliated herself.

Obsession????? she didn't care he was the one leading her on, she even took him to the side to find out how he felt and what he wanted to do, and he was like hmmmmmm nooooo i like you, i want cuddles and everything to be the same and HE kissed her, how do you see anything else, how was she obsessed with him, he played her plain and simple

[lostalex]

Obsession????? she didn't care he was the one leading her on, she even took him to the side to find out how he felt and what he wanted to do, and he was like hmmmmmm nooooo i like you, i want cuddles and everything to be the same and HE kissed her, how do you see anything else, how was she obsessed with him, he played her plain and simple

He didn't lead her on, he explained to her quite frankly, in very plain terms that he wasn't interested in her. He even talked about how much he fancied Jasmine to her. He had entire conversations with Casey about hoe much he fancied Jasmine. How much more clear could he make it??

[sampvt]

"We oldies"
So patronising, older people don't always know best.

I think Lee has feelings for Jasmine, Casey even knew so & threw herself at Lee

oLDIES DO KNOW BEST. iTS OBVIOUS FROM YOUR VIEWS THAT YOU ARE NOT AN OLDIE.

[sampvt]

sorry hit caps by mistake, probably cause I am old and senile and unable to make informed decisions and smell of wee wee.

[Kate!]

He didn't lead her on, he explained to her quite frankly, in very plain terms that he wasn't interested in her. He even talked about how much he fancied Jasmine to her. He had entire conversations with Casey about hoe much he fancied Jasmine. How much more clear could he make it??

Yes, he did that, all the things you've just said. And then he got on the bed with Casey kissing her and stroking her legs. He's a complete bellend.

[Gusto Brunt]

Anyone can fall 'in lust' after a few seconds, but love where your heart is broken just belongs to 13 year olds I'm afraid.

A 28 year old woman who behaves like that has serious issues.

[MeMyselfAndI]

oLDIES DO KNOW BEST. iTS OBVIOUS FROM YOUR VIEWS THAT YOU ARE NOT AN OLDIE.

Older people do not always know best, many old people still have backwards views and are racist, homophobic etc. It depends on the person & their experiences rather than age

[smudgie]

Older people do not always know best, many old people still have backwards views and are racist, homophobic etc. It depends on the person & their experiences rather than age

:worship: too true.

[sampvt]

Older people do not always know best, many old people still have backwards views and are racist, homophobic etc. It depends on the person & their experiences rather than age

And therin lies the reason why our society has lost all reasoning. The youngsters of today are right and we are wrong. It wont be long before we get our first teenage PM and our first teenage Police chief.

I concede to a greater power and wisdom abound in the teaching of people who think Kindergarden cop is an iconic movie and smarties are a square meal.

[bez87]

He didn't lead her on, he explained to her quite frankly, in very plain terms that he wasn't interested in her. He even talked about how much he fancied Jasmine to her. He had entire conversations with Casey about hoe much he fancied Jasmine. How much more clear could he make it??

see your taking bits from here and there, this was in the bolt hole, the damage had already been done before hand???? she never went for him after the bolt hole, how much clearer is that??? did you even watch the show before that because from your statments you clearly didn't, all she asked was for him to respect her feelings when they went back in the house, and to do what ever you wanted once they got out, thats just respect, seeing as tho he reeled her in, throughout the first few days and told her HE LIKED HER.

How much clearer did casey have to be when she just out right asked him what he wanted he said her, and then lied to jasmine saying he told her how it was when he blatantly didn't, she is hurt because he has shown no respect for casey and so would anyone in that situation, your coming up with your own little world from what was said in the bolt hole and not taking into account what had happened before hand.

how would you feel knows this guy reeled you in kept her at his beck and call at the same time he off banging someone else, to then find out and then for him to go on and on about fancying the other girl, wow you have a lot of respect for the opposite sex if you think how you think, the poor girl just fell for a guy who yes they were handcuffed to but they got on and he said things to her which ment he liked her how much clearer does the signals be for the girl not to get attached

[MeMyselfAndI]

That isn't what I said but whatever

[Niamh.]

And therin lies the reason why our society has lost all reasoning. The youngsters of today are right and we are wrong. It wont be long before we get our first teenage PM and our first teenage Police chief.

I concede to a greater power and wisdom abound in the teaching of people who think Kindergarden cop is an iconic movie and smarties are a square meal.

I think Jack makes a fair point tbh, he didn't say all older people are like that but it's true that some are.

[Munchkins]

Tbh, time seems much longer under that enclosed environment apparently so..

[Seraphim]

I think she did genuinely fancy him and liked him as a cuddle-mate, but she's hurt now because Lee is giving her the cold shoulder and blaming her for everything. It's actually him who's prolonging it by being hot/cold and messing with her head. Casey buried the hatchet when they were alone together, and thought they'd be friends when they went back to the house. Instead, Lee ignored her and spent all his time smooching with Jasmine. After Jasmine left the house, Casey probably thought she and Lee could go back to being mates again, so she's hurt that Lee is blaming everything on her and painting her as a player. Lee is a total prat, and she sees that now, but she strikes me as someone who doesn't bear grudges and she'd be happy to be mates and have a good time with him, if he started to act his age instead of about four years old.

BTW - people can fall in love in a day. My dad fell in my love with my mum at first sight and has loved her passionately and unconditionally ever since. My friend and her husband fell for each other the moment they met, and I myself have experienced falling in love at first sight - the only time in my life I was truly head-over-heels and walking on air. It can happen in an instant.

[Munchkins]

And therin lies the reason why our society has lost all reasoning. The youngsters of today are right and we are wrong. It wont be long before we get our first teenage PM and our first teenage Police chief.

I concede to a greater power and wisdom abound in the teaching of people who think Kindergarden cop is an iconic movie and smarties are a square meal.

:joker:
And therein lies the problem, look how patronising you are being to someone of a younger generation, i hold the upmost respect for older people BUT you do not have some inherit god given wisdom just because you are older. Some young person could go through far more life experiences in the time than an old person could in their whole life theoretically.
Society has not lost all reasoning at all lol, dont be so dramatic

[bez87]

I think she did genuinely fancy him and liked him as a cuddle-mate, but she's hurt now because Lee is giving her the cold shoulder and blaming her for everything. It's actually him who's prolonging it by being hot/cold and messing with her head. Casey buried the hatchet when they were alone together, and thought they'd be friends when they went back to the house. Instead, Lee ignored her and spent all his time smooching with Jasmine. After Jasmine left the house, Casey probably thought she and Lee could go back to being mates again, so she's hurt that Lee is blaming everything on her and painting her as a player. Lee is a total prat, and she sees that now, but she strikes me as someone who doesn't bear grudges and she'd be happy to be mates and have a good time with him, if he started to act his age instead of about four years old.

BTW - people can fall in love in a day. My dad fell in my love with my mum at first sight and has loved her passionately and unconditionally ever since. My friend and her husband fell for each other the moment they met, and I myself have experienced falling in love at first sight - the only time in my life I was truly head-over-heels and walking on air. It can happen in an instant.

completely agree, how anyone see's it dfifferently is crazy, i mean he is the one saying she has played it that way not her and yet some people seem to think she is dragging it on when in fact he is the one who relit the fire by claiming she made this happen lol, mental. i actually saw her coming out her shell abit more just before he decided to pin everything on lol funny how he causes it and yet he thinks he is the victim

[lostalex]

see your taking bits from here and there, this was in the bolt hole, the damage had already been done before hand???? she never went for him after the bolt hole, how much clearer is that??? did you even watch the show before that because from your statments you clearly didn't, all she asked was for him to respect her feelings when they went back in the house, and to do what ever you wanted once they got out, thats just respect, seeing as tho he reeled her in, throughout the first few days and told her HE LIKED HER.

How much clearer did casey have to be when she just out right asked him what he wanted he said her, and then lied to jasmine saying he told her how it was when he blatantly didn't, she is hurt because he has shown no respect for casey and so would anyone in that situation, your coming up with your own little world from what was said in the bolt hole and not taking into account what had happened before hand.

how would you feel knows this guy reeled you in kept her at his beck and call at the same time he off banging someone else, to then find out and then for him to go on and on about fancying the other girl, wow you have a lot of respect for the opposite sex if you think how you think, the poor girl just fell for a guy who yes they were handcuffed to but they got on and he said things to her which ment he liked her how much clearer does the signals be for the girl not to get attached

He didn't "reel her back in" at all, he made it clear that she wasn't good enuf for him but he just "liked her" but he really fancied Jasmine. He still obviously can enjoy being with Casey, that doesn't mean he's in love with her or values her.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying someone's company, if you are stuck with them. It's called "Friends With Benefits. This is the year 2014, who doesn't know about friends with benefits by now? Unfortunately Casey is delusional and psychotic, and she is so self-absorbed she doesn't understand that Lee really doesn't like her, she really doesn't understand that Jasmine is much moire attractive than she is.

If Casey ever reads this, darling, you were just a comfort woman, Jasmine was way hotter and way more fun, and not needy and pathetic and sloppy like you are.

It's not surprising that Lee liked Jasmine more, I think 99% of straight men would prefer Jasmine over Casey. Jasmine was fun and free and much better looking.

Why are we blaming Lee for being honest, and picking the better girl?

[Kate!]

Sorry but that's ^ one of the worst posts I've ever read. Very derogatory towards Casey, and how on earth do you know that 99% of men would prefer Jasmine. :conf:

[lostalex]

Sorry but that's ^ one of the worst posts I've ever read. Very derogatory towards Casey, and how on earth do you know that 99% of men would prefer Jasmine. :conf:

Well I think most hetero men (maybe not 99% but still most) would prefer a fun, sexy, confident girl like Jasmine, over a grumpy, insecure, controlling, bunny boiler like Casey.

[GiRTh]

Where do you get your list of Casey attributes? I dont see any of those. She's not grumpy she has a laugh with Sam and Jim, I dont see how she's insecure or controlling she has not interfered with Lee and Jasmine apart from telling people that she thought they were running her nose in it and as for Bunny boiler? She clearly made assumptions while they were in the Bolt hole but since then she hasn't pursued him at all.

Casey has not lived up to the image that people assumed of her a week ago. I think she's behaved impeccably while having to watch Lee and Jasmine dry humping on the kitchen floor.

[Seraphim]

Well I think most hetero men (maybe not 99% but still most) would prefer a fun, sexy, confident girl like Jasmine, over a grumpy, insecure, controlling, bunny boiler like Casey.

The fact that you had to insert the word "hetero" kinda speaks volumes about the reason for your own admiration of Jasmine. Yeah - men love a woman to have in-your-face sexuality.. at a distance and in the short-term. That's why so many guys fancy people like Madonna. Would they like having them around in real life/longer-term? Nope.

Jasmine strikes me as far more controlling than Casey. I don't think she's got an iota of interest in Lee - she was playing for the cameras the whole time. She only went for Lee because she knew Casey liked him and probably couldn't bear not being the centre of attention. One of my friends is like that. She's great fun, spontaneous and outrageous, but if I told her I was attracted to someone, she couldn't pick him up and 'sleep' with him fast enough. I didn't care that much. I figured any guy who went for her wouldn't be my type, because we're so different.

I've given my "take" on the Casey thing. I think Lee is responsible for prolonging the angst.. probably because he knows Jasmine will be watching and he thinks she has feelings for him. He's the one who's delusional.

[bez87]

He didn't "reel her back in" at all, he made it clear that she wasn't good enuf for him but he just "liked her" but he really fancied Jasmine. He still obviously can enjoy being with Casey, that doesn't mean he's in love with her or values her.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying someone's company, if you are stuck with them. It's called "Friends With Benefits. This is the year 2014, who doesn't know about friends with benefits by now? Unfortunately Casey is delusional and psychotic, and she is so self-absorbed she doesn't understand that Lee really doesn't like her, she really doesn't understand that Jasmine is much moire attractive than she is.

If Casey ever reads this, darling, you were just a comfort woman, Jasmine was way hotter and way more fun, and not needy and pathetic and sloppy like you are.

It's not surprising that Lee liked Jasmine more, I think 99% of straight men would prefer Jasmine over Casey. Jasmine was fun and free and much better looking.

Why are we blaming Lee for being honest, and picking the better girl?

No reeled her in before hand, see you completely ignore the fact that lee came on to casey in the first place :S, he also was the one who sugested they shared the bed still, he also was the one who said he liked her, and would like to see how things went when they got out the house, he was also the one who told jasmine that he didn't like casey and he was going to tell her but instead didn't and flirted right infront of casey in the first place, Casey as decent as she is, took him to the side and asked what was going on, and Lee being the complete nob that he is, told her he really liked her and didn't want anything to change and kissed her, implying to casey that he liked her :S so no he was never honest in the first place and this is why he is a complete nob, and no jasmine isn't that fit and i actually prefer casey to her.

wow you are deluded yourself the more i read your posts :S how was lee honest, he was honest in the bolt house, casey wanted him to respect her feelings and just keep it cool and not rub it in her face, but he didn't and thats why she was upset :S where do you get off saying he was honest when he blantantly wasn't in the first place.

and who saying anyone was in love with anyone Casey just thought the lad who she shared a bed with her came onto her for kisses and cuddles actually liked her to then find out he was just playing the field.

"he made it clear that she wasn't good enuf for him but he just "liked her" but he really fancied Jasmine."

just like to point this out to your deluded rants, he said this in the bolt house, after he lied to casey about how much he liked casey and gave her a kiss on the sofa when casey wanted the truth and wow after that he goes and bangs jasmine in the toilet yea so f'ing honest there isn't it, and the fact is they came back into the show and instead of putting casey feelings into account starts flirting and over the top antics with jasmine right infront of her, he has absolute no respect for women, and Casey is mad that he is with Jasmine she is upset that Lee has just shown absolute no respect for her as a person or a friend, honesty has never come into it with him

[Kizzy]

The fact that you had to insert the word "hetero" kinda speaks volumes about the reason for your own admiration of Jasmine. Yeah - men love a woman to have in-your-face sexuality.. at a distance and in the short-term. That's why so many guys fancy people like Madonna. Would they like having them around in real life? Nope. Jasmine strikes me as far more controlling than Casey. I don't think she's got an iota of interest in Lee - she was playing for the cameras the whole time. She only went for Lee because she knew Casey liked him and probably couldn't bear not being the centre of attention. One of my friends is like that. She's great fun, spontaneous and outrageous, but if I told her I was attracted to someone, she couldn't pick him up and 'sleep' with him fast enough. I didn't care that much. I figured any guy who went for her wouldn't be my type, because we're so different.

I've given my "take" on the Casey thing. I think Lee is responsible for prolonging the angst.. probably because he knows Jasmine will be watching and he thinks she has feelings for him. He's the one who's delusional.

Spoken like a true angel, I agree!

[GiRTh]

The fact that you had to insert the word "hetero" kinda speaks volumes about the reason for your own admiration of Jasmine. Yeah - men love a woman to have in-your-face sexuality.. at a distance and in the short-term. That's why so many guys fancy people like Madonna. Would they like having them around in real life/longer-term? Nope.

Jasmine strikes me as far more controlling than Casey. I don't think she's got an iota of interest in Lee - she was playing for the cameras the whole time. She only went for Lee because she knew Casey liked him and probably couldn't bear not being the centre of attention. One of my friends is like that. She's great fun, spontaneous and outrageous, but if I told her I was attracted to someone, she couldn't pick him up and 'sleep' with him fast enough. I didn't care that much. I figured any guy who went for her wouldn't be my type, because we're so different.

I've given my "take" on the Casey thing. I think Lee is responsible for prolonging the angst.. probably because he knows Jasmine will be watching and he thinks she has feelings for him. He's the one who's delusional.
:worship:

[lostalex]

No reeled her in before hand, see you completely ignore the fact that lee came on to casey in the first place :S, he also was the one who sugested they shared the bed still, he also was the one who said he liked her, and would like to see how things went when they got out the house, he was also the one who told jasmine that he didn't like casey and he was going to tell her but instead didn't and flirted right infront of casey in the first place, Casey as decent as she is, took him to the side and asked what was going on, and Lee being the complete nob that he is, told her he really liked her and didn't want anything to change and kissed her, implying to casey that he liked her :S so no he was never honest in the first place and this is why he is a complete nob, and no jasmine isn't that fit and i actually prefer casey to her.

wow you are deluded yourself the more i read your posts :S how was lee honest, he was honest in the bolt house, casey wanted him to respect her feelings and just keep it cool and not rub it in her face, but he didn't and thats why she was upset :S where do you get off saying he was honest when he blantantly wasn't in the first place.

and who saying anyone was in love with anyone Casey just thought the lad who she shared a bed with her came onto her for kisses and cuddles actually liked her to then find out he was just playing the field.

"he made it clear that she wasn't good enuf for him but he just "liked her" but he really fancied Jasmine."

just like to point this out to your deluded rants, he said this in the bolt house, after he lied to casey about how much he liked casey and gave her a kiss on the sofa when casey wanted the truth and wow after that he goes and bangs jasmine in the toilet yea so f'ing honest there isn't it, and the fact is they came back into the show and instead of putting casey feelings into account starts flirting and over the top antics with jasmine right infront of her, he has absolute no respect for women, and Casey is mad that he is with Jasmine she is upset that Lee has just shown absolute no respect for her as a person or a friend, honesty has never come into it with him

he was just playing along at first, because she suggested a showmance for the press. Lee is not the brightest bulb, and he is easily led astray, so he went along with it. but then he was actually smitten with Jasmine, so he decided to follow his heart.

Now he's paying the price for being manipulated by the maneating, manipulative, fame-*****, slag: Casey.

have some pity for the poor boy.

[Pincho Paxton]

Lee led Casey on with his words, and actions. Then he turned them against her. She also over-reacted.

[lostalex]

Lee led Casey on with his words, and actions. Then he turned them against her. She also over-reacted.

led her on for 2 days... by cuddling and saying he "liked" her? What does saying "i like you" mean to you? apparently to her it meant a marriage proposal.

[Pincho Paxton]

led her on for 2 days... by cuddling and saying he "liked" her? What does saying "i like you" mean to you? apparently to her it meant a marriage proposal.

He said he wants to see her outside of the house, and all sorts of other things. He said I didn't think that I would find a relationship in the house.

[Munchkins]

led her on for 2 days... by cuddling and saying he "liked" her? What does saying "i like you" mean to you? apparently to her it meant a marriage proposal.

Or it meant she presumed, as many would, that he was interested in her, and would not immediately go off to another girl in the house lol

[lostalex]

Or it meant she presumed, as many would, that he was interested in her, and would not immediately go off to another girl in the house lol

but as soon as he did go off her, he told her. he didn't lie. And he never really liked her, he was just going along with her sinister plan of having a showmance for the press.

we now know from last nights show, that Casey plotted to create a showmance and that Lee was just going along with it for a while.

[Pincho Paxton]

but as soon as he did go off her, he told her. he didn't lie. And he never really liked her, he was just going along with her sinister plan of having a showmance for the press.

we now know from last nights show, that Casey plotted to create a showmance and that Lee was just going along with it for a while.

We don't know, because she denied it in a stream of tears. Nobody is that good an actor.

[Crimson Dynamo]

aaah I like her even if she is a bit of a BB

[Seraphim]

Bez87 and GiRTh - I sooo agree with you.

lostalex - I think your name fits, because in my view you have actually lost the plot.. lol.

You think that Casey is insecure, and yet when asked not to use makeup, she didn't. Jasmine was too insecure to appear without her makeup, so she cheated on the task.

You think Jasmine is "better-looking", but they're both great-looking, although I personally think Casey looks a bit more natural than Jasmine. She looked great without make-up, her skin is gorgeous, she has a wonderful, slim figure and spectacular, natural-looking breasts.

Why are we blaming Lee for being honest, and picking the better girl?

She's not better - she's just different. And no-one is blaming Lee for his choices.. we're blaming him for his bad behaviour, which includes leading Casey on and telling her that he wanted a relationship with her outside the house shortly before telling Jasmine to move to the UK and that he'd marry her, even though behind both their backs he was telling everyone else that he wasn't ready for a relationship. He was slobbering all over two successive girls/women in full view of all the other housemates who couldn't have felt very comfortable with that. He was messing with Jasmine's head as much as he was doing it to Casey. One night he actually had her in tears, even though she's not genuinely interested in him. She sees right through him, because she's smart, savvy and as much of a player as he is.

but as soon as he did go off her, he told her. he didn't lie..

He did lie. Haven't you read any of the replies to your previous posts?



we now know from last nights show, that Casey plotted to create a showmance and that Lee was just going along with it for a while.

Come off it. He has already shown himself to be a pathetic coward who will lie through his teeth to get whatever he wants and blame everyone else for the consequences of his bad behaviour. If he was four years old it would be adorable.. I think he probably just tells women what he thinks they want to hear because he doesn't want to hurt them by telling them the truth, but he seriously needs to sort himself out.

[Niamh.]

To add to that Seraphim, Lee apparently has a g/f on the outside as well

[lostalex]

To add to that Seraphim, Lee apparently has a g/f on the outside as well

and Duncan's always up for it on the odd occasion aswell!

Lee and Jasmine were all about having fun, living free. Casey was a miserable old bag. I don't blame Lee at all for being overwhelmed and put off by her.

[Seraphim]

To add to that Seraphim, Lee apparently has a g/f on the outside as well

Hopefully not any longer. ;)

[Z]

The fact that you had to insert the word "hetero" kinda speaks volumes about the reason for your own admiration of Jasmine. Yeah - men love a woman to have in-your-face sexuality.. at a distance and in the short-term. That's why so many guys fancy people like Madonna. Would they like having them around in real life/longer-term? Nope.

Jasmine strikes me as far more controlling than Casey. I don't think she's got an iota of interest in Lee - she was playing for the cameras the whole time. She only went for Lee because she knew Casey liked him and probably couldn't bear not being the centre of attention. One of my friends is like that. She's great fun, spontaneous and outrageous, but if I told her I was attracted to someone, she couldn't pick him up and 'sleep' with him fast enough. I didn't care that much. I figured any guy who went for her wouldn't be my type, because we're so different.

I've given my "take" on the Casey thing. I think Lee is responsible for prolonging the angst.. probably because he knows Jasmine will be watching and he thinks she has feelings for him. He's the one who's delusional.

:worship:

[Seraphim]

and Duncan's always up for it on the odd occasion aswell!

Lee and Jasmine were all about having fun, living free. Casey was a miserable old bag. I don't blame Lee at all for being overwhelmed and put off by her.

Overwhelmed?? Casey told Lee that she just wanted him to be upfront and tell her if he wasn't interested. Later, she told him that if he fancied Jasmine, they could still cuddle and just be mates. They got on great and had fun during the fake eviction. After leaving the house, he dropped Casey like a stone and spent all his time drooling over Jasmine, then blamed Casey for the booes.

My boyfriend fancies Jasmine more and has lost patience with Casey's whinging too. Funny that, when he's chosen to spend his life with an average-looking, insecure whinger like me, :lol:

IMO Lee's finest moment in the house was his pole-dancing routine, which was utterly filthy and hilarious. :cheer:

[Niamh.]

Hopefully not any longer. ;)

well, I don't have much sympathy for her anyway if it's true, apparently she was married with kids when she met Lee, so Karma and all that jazz

[MachoPoodle]

She never said she was in love with him though and I think it's more him making a complete idiot out of her that's got her so annoyed and upset

Spot on! :thumbs:

And you can certainly have amazing chemistry with someone very quickly sometimes, and I actually think they did in the beginning because they were having a lot of fun and getting along great.

[bez87]

I'm still trying to work out the whole casey has a gameplan all i've seen from the get go, is someone who fell for a good looking lad, who feed her words what she wanted to here. to then asking him to be upfront and honest with her and that they could just be friends to him saying he wanted more pretty much and kissing her, to then ditching her in the bolt hole and talking about jasmine all the time and blaming casey to then getting with casey in the toilet and probably saying they would see how it goes on the outside. to then coming back in the house, where he pretended to jasmine that he hated casey pretty much and completely ignored her and rubbing it in casey's face all the while and much respect to casey all she did was talk about it to her friends and that was it, i just don't see where the helll this gameplan fits in, i'm still trying to work it out.

[thesheriff443]

aint love grand when its in your hand.

[camertone]

i don't buy her stories. she is not naive, i think she's quite shrewd, and she knows exactly what she is doing. her game plan worked, and public bought her pathetic antics. she seems quite fake to me, i don't like people who get big fake tits and call themselves a celebrity. i'm sure she is desperate for fame and romance with high profile celebrity. i think lee is on the hand, quite naive.

[bez87]

i don't buy her stories. she is not naive, i think she's quite shrewd, and she knows exactly what she is doing. her game plan worked, and public bought her pathetic antics. she seems quite fake to me, i don't like people who get big fake tits and call themselves a celebrity. i'm sure she is desperate for fame and romance with high profile celebrity. i think lee is on the hand, quite naive.

seriously what show have you been watching????

Lee Came on to her

Lee asked her if they wanted to keep sleeping and cuddling in bed after the handcuffs came off

Lee was the one telling her that he had never felt like this with a girl for a long time

Lee Flirted with Jasmine, and told her that he didn't like Casey like that

Casey got wind of this and asked lee to have a chat on the sofa to clear it once and for all.

Casey asked him out right to be honest with her and if they should just call it quits now and he said no and kissed her on the lips.

Lee and Jasmine ended up in the toilets and did some stuff.

Casey found out they kissed and she was hurt and upset

They get voted out and put into the bolt hole, by then the damage had been done for Lee

Lee and Casey ended up making up and now we know they had a kiss in the bathroom, which made Casey believe she was still in with a chance.

Casey knew Lee fancied Jasmine and asked him to just keep it cool until they got out and he agreed,

As Soon as they got back into the house Lee was all over Jasmine infront of Casey and this in turn broke Casey's heart.

Casey never once brought it up with Lee or Jasmine and only spoke to her friends about it.

It wasn't until Jasmine left Lee decided to say Casey planned it all along and she was the one wanting the Showmance, this in turn brought out that her and lee kissed.

Lee then went on to show his true colours when questions by Lusia or dappy in the garden where he got flustered denied it at first and then made up this rubbish about him pulling away, right there shows lee is lying and he ain't even good at it.

I mean point me in the right direction here if i got anything wrong but i'm 99% from watching every show that i'm dead on, no where did it show Casey gaining ground for her gameplan :S Lee did it all himself.

All this rubbish about her fake tits and fake personality, i'm pretty sure you don't watch it, she is probably the most moddest dressed housemate in there considering her career is to flaunt her assets.