UKIP councillor: gay people have a disease – I pray they will be healed

[arista]

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UKIP councillor: gay people have a disease – I pray they will be healed
Henley-on-Thames Ukip councillor David Silvester tells
BBC Radio that recent flooding is result of Britain turning against God


He has been Suspended - latest news


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/19/ukip-councillor-gay-people-spiritual-disease-pray-healed-david-silvester

The Floods came from a change in the Gulf Stream
Not because of Gay Marriage


He is a Nobody
but is on all our news.

The PM called UKIP bad names
I think he means these type.

[Kate!]

Disgraceful. What an ignorant man.

[Munchkins]

Words can't even comprehend
what an absolute twat

[MTVN]

Evander? :suspect:

[GiRTh]

:joker:

And people thought this lot could actually be taken seriously. Its so sad people think UKIP are a viable alternative.

[smudgie]

Do these cretins still exist in these days of enlightenment?

Strewth.

[thesheriff443]

looking for attention and getting it.
i think the people that report this crap are just as bad.

[Glenn.]

It's hardly crap though is it. A comment like that is just as ignorant in my opinion.

[thesheriff443]

It's hardly crap though is it. A comment like that is just as ignorant in my opinion.

of course its ignorant, no one with an ounze of brain would take hime seriously.

[Glenn.]

That's a pretty serious view though, why shouldn't it be reported?

[Tom4784]

I'm just glad UKIP are getting bad press, bunch of backwards fools. I say keep reporting stuff like this, give UKIP enough rope to hang themselves with.

[thesheriff443]

That's a pretty serious view though, why shouldn't it be reported?

serious for who, not me, like i said no one is going to take him seriosly or give him a job after this.

[Kate!]

I'm just glad UKIP are getting bad press, bunch of backwards fools. I say keep reporting stuff like this, give UKIP enough rope to hang themselves with.

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[Glenn.]

serious for who, not me, like i said no one is going to take him seriosly or give him a job after this.

The LGBT community maybe? It's a view I strongly disagree with being gay myself. Whether you choose to take it seriously or not.

[arista]

looking for attention and getting it.
i think the people that report this crap are just as bad.


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So all them are as bad as saying Gays caused the Floods?

You have screw loose

[thesheriff443]

The LGBT community maybe? It's a view I strongly disagree with being gay myself. Whether you choose to take it seriously or not.

if straight men like me think he is a dick then its not serious.

[Glenn.]

With that I think it's best I take myself out of the discussion.

[thesheriff443]

With that I think it's best I take myself out of the discussion.

thats your choice. after all, who is this man trying to get on his side?, straight men.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/1/19/283362/default/v1/untitled-1-1-522x293.jpg
UKIP Suspends Gay Marriage Row Politician

http://news.sky.com/story/1197561/ukip-suspends-gay-marriage-row-politician


UKIP has suspended a councillor who claimed that recent flooding was Britain's punishment for legalising gay marriage.

[joeysteele]

UKIP councillor: gay people have a disease – I pray they will be healed
Henley-on-Thames Ukip councillor David Silvester tells
BBC Radio that recent flooding is result of Britain turning against God


He has been Suspended - latest news


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/19/ukip-councillor-gay-people-spiritual-disease-pray-healed-david-silvester

The Floods came from a change in the Gulf Stream
Not because of Gay Marriage


He is a Nobody
but is on all our news.

The PM called UKIP bad names
I think he means these type.

I was just about to mention this to you arista, what a really idiotic thing for the Councillor to think never mind say.

There really are some dangerous and daft loonies in that party.

[jackc1806]

What he is saying is almost hysterical, what absolute crap. Scary though that apparently educated people hold those views

[jackc1806]

Then again it is UKIP, what do you expect

[Apple202]

:laugh3:

[Kizzy]

I think what sheriff means I've said it myself before now, why does the media give ukip a platform to spout their ignorant bigotry?
I can only hope it's to discredit this 'party' and not to aid the spread of their warped messages of hate and intolerance.

[arista]

The suspended councillor
first gave these stupid words to his local newspaper
then he gave a final interview on BBC Radio.
Now he is on Every Single news


Ref: SkyNewsHD

[Munchkins]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/1/19/283362/default/v1/untitled-1-1-522x293.jpg
UKIP Suspends Gay Marriage Row Politician

http://news.sky.com/story/1197561/ukip-suspends-gay-marriage-row-politician


UKIP has suspended a councillor who claimed that recent flooding was Britain's punishment for legalising gay marriage.

He's just jealous of gay people getting action because he will clearly never get any in his life

[reece(:]

Looks like a bunch of old men living in the dark age to me.

[thesheriff443]

I think what sheriff means I've said it myself before now, why does the media give ukip a platform to spout their ignorant bigotry?
I can only hope it's to discredit this 'party' and not to aid the spread of their warped messages of hate and intolerance.

thank you kizzy, this was my train of thought

[Black Dagger]

I do have a really bad cold atm. I wonder if they are linked?

[Glenn.]

Your cold is making people homosexual Lucas, get yourself to the doctors. Can't be having you infecting people.

[Jake.]

I hope he gets caught in that flood

[Livia]

Well, this is the calibre of politician you get if you vote UKIP. No one was more shocked than UKIP at the last county elections when they got a massive vote. They weren't prepared, most of their people were paper candidates I hope this ridiculous man is one of them, and not a serious politician. God help us at the Euro elections.

[GiRTh]

Well, this is the calibre of politician you get if you vote UKIP. No one was more shocked than UKIP at the last county elections when they got a massive vote. They weren't prepared, most of their people were paper candidates I hope this ridiculous man is one of them, and not a serious politician. God help us at the Euro elections.
Do you think they'll do well at the Euro's? Surely not when people realize they are voting for fools like this.

[Nedusa]

Scary stupid man but he is entitled to his views however misguided...!!!

[Livia]

Do you think they'll do well at the Euro's? Surely not when people realize they are voting for fools like this.

There will be a section of the Conservative core who kind of agree with him. The same people who rang my phone red hot after the gay marriage thing. It's not just Tories though, some people who've never voted will think UKIP stands up for the UK and old-fashioned values. Sadly, I think they're going to do well.

[GiRTh]

I kind of hope they do well so people realise how stupid their policies are.

[Z]

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[HD]

omg ^ :laugh2:

[Kizzy]

I heard the BNP have been in discussion with golden dawn, imagine them uniting with UKIP?
I could see it happening.... Hey I see a pattern here history repeating.

[Marc]

Gotta love Henley'ites

Moron

[Redway]

Silly ****.

[Samm]

He can **** off it is the 21st century he has to move out from the 1960s

[GypsyGoth]

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1528757_10201900446287548_2108208549_n.jpg

:laugh2:

[Munchkins]

It always makes me laugh when people say they are going to vote for UKIP to go against right winged Tories, when UKIP are even further along, and are just as bad if not worse in some respects

[jackc1806]

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Amazing :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

Just look at his face, you can tell he secretly lusts for a bit of action from Phillip Schofield

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[Glenn.]

Those homosexual hurricanes are awful though. It tore our local farmers barn a new arsehole back in '63

[Me. I Am Salman]

Lesbian snow :laugh2:

[Me. I Am Salman]

He looks a bit like stephen fry

[Z]

He looks a bit like stephen fry

LOL I can see the resemblance :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I see little difference with this clown and all the moronic "he is with the angels now" sentiments expressed over the death of the wee boy in Edinburgh.

If you do believe in a god then you must also believe that it can do things like kill people, create people, cause weather and earth events.

He is just as bad as any religionist who says they believe in gods. I see him, the Pope, the Artcheejit of canterbury and the lady down the street who goes once a week to church as all the same.

Its sickening

[Crimson Dynamo]

delete

[Z]

I see little difference with this clown and all the moronic "he is with the angels now" sentiments expressed over the death of the wee boy in Edinburgh.

If you do believe in a god then you must also believe that it can do things like kill people, create people, cause weather and earth events.

He is just as bad as any religionist who says they believe in gods. I see him, the Pope, the Artcheejit of canterbury and the lady down the street who goes once a week to church as all the same.

Its sickening

I think there's a difference between believing your chosen faith to be a source of positivity and inner strength to rely upon in hard times and using your faith to justify your personal prejudices and wish ill upon groups in society because you've interpreted your faith in a way that you believe allows you to do that with no qualms.

[Jezzy]

I think there's a difference between believing your chosen faith to be a source of positivity and inner strength to rely upon in hard times and using your faith to justify your personal prejudices and wish ill upon groups in society because you've interpreted your faith in a way that you believe allows you to do that with no qualms.

Fantastic post.

[Livia]

I see little difference with this clown and all the moronic "he is with the angels now" sentiments expressed over the death of the wee boy in Edinburgh.

If you do believe in a god then you must also believe that it can do things like kill people, create people, cause weather and earth events.

He is just as bad as any religionist who says they believe in gods. I see him, the Pope, the Artcheejit of canterbury and the lady down the street who goes once a week to church as all the same.

Its sickening

I'd say it's quite similar to what you're doing here - lumping everyone with a belief into the same boat. That's sickening.

I think there's a difference between believing your chosen faith to be a source of positivity and inner strength to rely upon in hard times and using your faith to justify your personal prejudices and wish ill upon groups in society because you've interpreted your faith in a way that you believe allows you to do that with no qualms.

Great post, Zee.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think there's a difference between believing your chosen faith to be a source of positivity and inner strength to rely upon in hard times and using your faith to justify your personal prejudices and wish ill upon groups in society because you've interpreted your faith in a way that you believe allows you to do that with no qualms.

The word "faith" simply means someone who says they believe something even though there is no evidence and the thing they say they believe in beggars belief in its stupidity. Mainly the word means "i am just going along with what my parents brainwashed me into believing" 9 times out of 10

people hide behind that word as if its something good, its not its a horrible excuse for not thinking.

That said I cant disagree with your sentiment that wishful thinking can be beneficial to many - that however does not make it true, worthy of respect or something to be encouraged.

[Shaun]

the UKIP weather twitter account :love: there was a shipping forecast soundcloud floating around somewhere too <3

https://soundcloud.com/nicholas-pegg/ukip-shipping-forecast

[arista]

Yes Great Stuff Spunky Shaun

[Shaun]

thank you, arousing arista

[Jezzy]

The word "faith" simply means someone who says they believe something even though there is no evidence and the thing they say they believe in beggars belief in its stupidity. Mainly the word means "i am just going along with what my parents brainwashed me into believing" 9 times out of 10

people hide behind that word as if its something good, its not its a horrible excuse for not thinking.


That said I cant disagree with your sentiment that wishful thinking can be beneficial to many - that however does not make it true, worthy of respect or something to be encouraged.

I think faith is a lot stronger than that, and the effects of mass faith can certainly have a strong effect, whether positive or negative. Wishful thinking is just that; faith carries energy that can be absolutely tangible.

[Z]

The word "faith" simply means someone who says they believe something even though there is no evidence and the thing they say they believe in beggars belief in its stupidity. Mainly the word means "i am just going along with what my parents brainwashed me into believing" 9 times out of 10

people hide behind that word as if its something good, its not its a horrible excuse for not thinking.

That said I cant disagree with your sentiment that wishful thinking can be beneficial to many - that however does not make it true, worthy of respect or something to be encouraged.

Faith is what gets people out of bed in the morning when they have a serious illness and there's only a 5% chance that they might live. Faith is that 5%, that little ray of hope that gets people through the day and gives them the desire to want to see tomorrow too. Faith doesn't have to be religious. Faith is simply the belief that your life is worth something, means something and you shouldn't give up on that, in my opinion. So what if people are brought up to believe in something that might not exist? If that belief gives them the inner strength to achieve good things in their life then what does it matter?

Oh, and, I'm an atheist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Faith is what gets people out of bed in the morning when they have a serious illness and there's only a 5% chance that they might live. Faith is that 5%, that little ray of hope that gets people through the day and gives them the desire to want to see tomorrow too. Faith doesn't have to be religious. Faith is simply the belief that your life is worth something, means something and you shouldn't give up on that, in my opinion. So what if people are brought up to believe in something that might not exist? If that belief gives them the inner strength to achieve good things in their life then what does it matter?

Oh, and, I'm an atheist.

That is not faith that is our instinct to survive that has been millions of years in the making through natural selection/evolution.

Its this desire to live/mate that makes us carry on. Our lives have no meaning, our lives are as meaningless as that of a tree or a slug. We are a product of time and the basic ingredients of this universe occurring in a certain order in a certain place.

[Jezzy]

OK, is the Placebo effect not faith then?

[Crimson Dynamo]

OK, is the Placebo effect not faith then?

No its the placebo effect that works mildly with endorphins in the brain. A placebo will not help if you have lost a limb, have aggressive cancer or toothache. It is good for hypochondriacs however.

[Jezzy]

No its the placebo effect that works mildly with endorphins in the brain. A placebo will not help if you have lost a limb, have aggressive cancer or toothache. It is good for hypochondriacs however.

Well there's no pill / therapy that will cure either limb loss or aggressive cancer, so those examples are irrelevant. You need to have faith it will work, how could anyone believe any pill could cure their limb loss? There obviously has to be the potential for a cure. Nobody with an aggressive cancer would have very much faith that a drug could cure them, although maybe one could offer some relief.

It's good for more than hypochondriacs, I can dig out some very good articles if you like? You obviously know how it works, both the patients on the real drug and the patients on the false drug, both having faith the drug will cure them, have similar success rates in their cure.

The Chinese firmly believe that mind and body are inextricably linked in the causes and relief of disease; I would tend to agree.

I've also seen people drunk on non-alcoholic beer, believing it's the real McCoy. THAT's funny.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well there's no pill / therapy that will cure either limb loss or aggressive cancer, so those examples are irrelevant. You need to have faith it will work, how could anyone believe any pill could cure their limb loss? There obviously has to be the potential for a cure. Nobody with an aggressive cancer would have very much faith that a drug could cure them, although maybe one could offer some relief.

It's good for more than hypochondriacs, I can dig out some very good articles if you like? You obviously know how it works, both the patients on the real drug and the patients on the false drug, both having faith the drug will cure them, have similar success rates in their cure.

The Chinese firmly believe that mind and body are inextricably linked in the causes and relief of disease; I would tend to agree.

I've also seen people drunk on non-alcoholic beer, believing it's the real McCoy. THAT's funny.

Acting drunk is not being drunk

The chinese eat dogs so I will give their science a miss

[Marc]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeqE20kIIAERZog.jpg

bwahahahahaha:hugesmile:


(meteorologically speaking that teashirt is however incorrect)

[Jezzy]

bwahahahahaha:hugesmile:


(meteorologically speaking that teashirt is however incorrect)

Grammatically speaking, neither is your last quote. I don't know what a teashirt is...something you wear to drink tea in?