Lee getting a warning? - pulled Luisa´s top off

[Calderyon]

Celebrity Big Brother 2014: Lee Ryan exposes Luisa Zissman's boobs

Celebrity Big Brother 2014 housemate Lee Ryan is in for a telling off after pulling down Luisa Zissman’s top.


In scenes cut from last night’s latest highlights show on Channel 5, the Blue singer got a little too hands on during a party involving the housemates.

Big Brother rewarded the nine remaining celebrity contestants with booze, food and music after they successfully took part in a (altogether rather cringey) talent show task.

The party antics saw breasts the hot topic for discussion with Luisa admitting she was fascinated by Casey’s, saying: “They’re massive! I can’t believe how big they are.”

Later the Apprentice star played a trick on Dappy by using her earrings to make it look as though she had erect nipples.

It prompted Dappy to remark to Big Brother in the Diary Room: “Jees, she’s [Luisa's] got a nice pair of knockers, I think she’s frustrated. I’ve never had two beautiful women next to me both with a perfect set of knockers.”

But with the drink flowing, things got a little out of hand later on in the night with a playful Lee pulling down Luisa’s pink vest top to expose her boobs… all as the pair danced to Marvin Gaye’s Sexual Healing.

A source said this morning: “In any other environment, this would be seen as an indecent assault.

“Luisa tried to laugh about it but if a man did that to a girl in a club, the police would be called.”

The Daily Star newspaper reports that producers decided to cut the footage out of the show yesterday evening, especially after the complaints similar incidents have caused in the past.

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[Cherie]

Sexual assault I bet Luisa loved it.:joker:

[Lex]

It would only be assault if Luisa didn't like it and complained!...I somehow doubt that would be the case here!

[AnnieK]

It would only be assault if Luisa didn't like it and complained!...I somehow doubt that would be the case here!

^ this

[joeysteele]

It is wrong to without consent remove someone elses clothing and expose them. However I too doubt Luisa would have any issue with it in all truth.

[alex_front2]

Oh please Luisa probably enjoyed it

[Josy]

It is wrong to do that no matter what, warning deserved IMO

[alex_front2]

It is wrong to do that no matter what, warning deserved IMO

The other women, yep. Luisa no *shrugs*

[Josy]

The other women, yep. Luisa no *shrugs*

I honestly have no reply to this. :umm2:

[reece(:]

Very deserved

[rusticgal]

It would only be assault if Luisa didn't like it and complained!...I somehow doubt that would be the case here!

Had Jim done it....different story.

[chuff me dizzy]

Makes a change someone else flashing her tits for her :idc:, shes no morals so doubt she moaned ,you cannot advertise yourself as being a skank, then pretend you have morals

[Tregard]

Nobody has the right to do that to anyone else, regardless of the promiscuous nature of their character.

[jessicadanielle]

I don't think this really needs a warning because they didn't air it. Luisa and Lee aren't strangers, he's done it knowing she's quite open about this sort of stuff and probably loved it haha. Although if it had been aired it would have definitely needed a warning I think, as no warning would suggest to some viewers that pulling off people's clothes is ok, because "it was ok when Lee Ryan did it", forgetting what context it was done in

[Ammi]

Nobody has the right to do that to anyone else, regardless of the promiscuous nature of their character.

...yeah, exactly this..if he did it then it was right that he had a warning...

[Slevin]

personally i wouldnt do that to anyone. even if i wanted to see a fine rack.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Such a creep :umm2:

[erinp5]

http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/47/photos/172000/620x413/70172.jpg

The flirty pair got drunk during a disco party in the house.

But as they grew closer, dancing to Marvin Gaye’s hit Sexual Healing, boozy Lee struck.

The sex-mad Blue singer, 30, grabbed Luisa’s pink top, exposing the Apprentice babe’s breasts.

Shocked Luisa, 26, was taken aback by the randy star’s antics.

And Big Brother bosses did not include the attack on last night’s show for fear of a public backlash.

A source said: “In any other environment, this would be seen as an indecent assault.

“Luisa tried to laugh about it but if a man did that to a girl in a club, the police would be called.”

[Z]

:o

[MachoPoodle]

Seriously... Some of the comments in this thread are disgusting. You can't be all "oh it's only sexual assault if she protests AFTERWARDS". And no, women who enjoy sex have not given out some sort of public consent for all times. What the F??

[MachoPoodle]

...

[Slevin]

well its Luisa so yea its all good...:rolleyes:

[Niamh.]

well its Luisa so yea its all good...:rolleyes:

I know! I don't even like Luisa but I'm shocked at some of the attitudes about this tbh. Lee is a slimy, vile creep

[Slevin]

i cant remember exactly but i could of sworn the same thing happened on another reality show. it might of been some BB and most people thought it was pretty F'd up but with this series its Luisa so some are like who gives a ****e.

[MTVN]

i cant remember exactly but i could of sworn the same thing happened on another reality show. it might of been some BB and most people thought it was pretty F'd up but with this series its Luisa so some are like who gives a ****e.

Might be thinking of when Denise pulled down the trousers of one of the twins in CBB9?

[Z]

Lee is ****ing disgusting. Nobody deserves to have that done to them. Just shows his sleazy nature.

[Pincho Paxton]

Assault, and playful are a fine line. To me this is playful.

[Slevin]

Might be thinking of when Denise pulled down the trousers of one of the twins in CBB9?
nah. that was the series i missed cause my PC went to **** then i got a new one in time for BB13. i still need to watch that sometime but since i watch more than BB i havent really had the time.:joker:

lmao now i remember it was a series of The Challenge: Battle of the Exes when Vinnie pulled down Mandi's top when they were at a club and there was an uproar at another forum. its the only thing i watch on MTV over here in the US cause Rivals II i was happy that CT finally won it after like 9-10 challenges.

[Z]

Assault, and playful are a fine line. To me this is playful.

Obviously seeing the footage would help to clarify which category it falls under and I'm sure it wasn't meant in an aggressive way but I think it's unacceptable to pulled someone's clothing off them without their consent; I hope we're not about to see Luisa and Lee get it on in the coming days...

[wendywillow]

if a girl takes off her clothes for a living doesn't mean you can rip her top off anytime you like. we live in a SOCIETY! (Seinfeld reference)

[PrincessIona]

A source said: “In any other environment, this would be seen as an indecent assault.

“Luisa tried to laugh about it but if a man did that to a girl in a club, the police would be called.”

Not sure what environment or clubs they are talking about but I've never known this to be much of an issue, even when a stranger does this sort of thing.

I don't like Lee but this is an over reaction by bb

[MachoPoodle]

Not sure what environment or clubs they are talking about but I've never known this to be much of an issue, even when a stranger does this sort of thing.

I don't like Lee but this is an over reaction by bb

Someone pulling a woman's top up isn't much of an issue? Of course it is! And whether or not it's a stranger doing it or someone you know doesn't matter. It's about not having the right to make decisions about someone else's body, end of.

[optimisticcynic]

I've not seen the clip, but that makes no difference. The whole issue rests simply with Luisa. If Luisa is at all upset by this act then it is wrong. If she doesn't mind and does this with Lee all the time and it is a shared joke, then it is consensual, although not to everyone's taste. But as stated, the only opinion that matters here is Luisa's. BTW, what has she said about it?

[reece(:]

If Luisa was upset with it she'd probably get labelled the same names Hazel was after complaining about Daley.

[Lex]

Had Jim done it....different story.

Yes you are 100% correct Rusty. ...but then Jim's not with the 'in-crowd' is he! :thumbs: ...and it would have been Luisa and especially Linda's "dream come true" ...when a ' highly-distraught victim' Louisa slowly and dramatically dragged herself up to the diary room to lodge an official complaint of 'sexual assault' against the "Evil Pervert"!! ...:nono:

[RichardG]

Not sure what environment or clubs they are talking about but I've never known this to be much of an issue, even when a stranger does this sort of thing.

I don't like Lee but this is an over reaction by bb

:umm2:

[Lex]

Yes you are 100% correct Rusty. ...but then Jim's not with the 'in-crowd' is he! :thumbs: ...and it would have been Luisa and especially Linda's "dream come true" ...when a ' highly-distraught victim' Louisa slowly and dramatically dragged herself up to the diary room to lodge an official complaint of 'sexual assault' against the "Evil Pervert"!! ...:nono:


Oh!...I forgot to add that when she had finally reached the big brother chair [with the aid of the very concerned Linda of course] Luisa would have jibbered through her contrived tears that she required "that monster.. removing from the house immediately..The police called on the emergency-line...but firstly, call her agent to negotiate the best terms available from all of the trashy rags and mags possible"!..."Oh, and call my lawyer to see how much compensation Jim could be worth?" ...:spin:

[Jack_]

Some of the comments in this thread remind me of those people that say women who dress provocatively 'had it coming to them' if they're raped D:

I expect it was playful yes but a warning is justified

[Lex]

Some of the comments in this thread remind me of those people that say women who dress provocatively 'had it coming to them' if they're raped D:

I expect it was playful yes but a warning is justified

Yes..that sounded pretty grown up Jack!...but you failed to address the "what if it had been Jim?" aspect to the scenario!...honest opinions please? :conf:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Free the Luisa 2

[Jack_]

Yes..that sounded pretty grown up Jack!...but you failed to address the "what if it had been Jim?" aspect to the scenario!...honest opinions please? :conf:

No need for the sarcasm, there are plenty of posts in this thread that sound exactly like the argument I just raised

And well it's all about context isn't it, Jim's not as close to Luisa as Lee is is he? In fact they quite clearly have rather big issues with each other, and plus Jim has a history of sexism and so to do that wouldn't exactly be great for his reputation would it now? Not quite sure why you're bringing Jim up and insinuating I'm biased against him anyway when he and Luisa are my favourites but okay :shrug:

[smeagol]

so she doesn't mind and he still gets a warning lol.

people tend to know the type of people they can do that too. it isnt like he done it to Liz

[Ammi]

so she doesn't mind and he still gets a warning lol.

people tend to know the type of people they can do that too. it isnt like he done it to Liz

..is there a 'type' of person that it's acceptable to do that to..?..

[smeagol]

..is there a 'type' of person that it's acceptable to do that to..?..

yeah there is. you know when your in their company obviously friends.
The amount of times some girl has grabbed by trouser snake or tried to pull my trousuers down id be a millionair lol ok i paid them to do it but thats beside the point lol

friends know eachother and what they can do and not do.

[Pincho Paxton]

..is there a 'type' of person that it's acceptable to do that to..?..

Yeah, there is a right person, and a right time else our population would be 2.

[Kazanne]

has this been shown on CBB?

[Ammi]

yeah there is. you know when your in their company obviously friends.
The amount of times some girl has grabbed by trouser snake or tried to pull my trousuers down id be a millionair lol ok i paid them to do it but thats beside the point lol

friends know eachother and what they can do and not do.


..in the BB house, they're not 'friends', they've only been in there a few weeks...

[Me. I Am Salman]

Had Jim done it....different story.

Yes you are 100% correct Rusty. ...but then Jim's not with the 'in-crowd' is he! :thumbs: ...and it would have been Luisa and especially Linda's "dream come true" ...when a ' highly-distraught victim' Louisa slowly and dramatically dragged herself up to the diary room to lodge an official complaint of 'sexual assault' against the "Evil Pervert"!! ...:nono:

If Jim does this if Jim does that give it a rest.

[smeagol]

..in the BB house, they're not 'friends', they've only been in there a few weeks...

they look friendly enough to me.

[Ammi]

they look friendly enough to me.

..I'm just a bit confused by what you're saying, do you mean that if it's someone who has said that they're ok with someone doing it or that they know them so well that they're confident that person would be perfectly fine with it...saying that it's not as if it was Liz but ok with a 'type' of girl and that people would know that type of girl is a bit confusing as to what a 'type' is...

[Gusto Brunt]

Sexual assault I bet Luisa loved it.:joker:

Yeah I cannot see the slapper complaining.

[smeagol]

..I'm just a bit confused by what you're saying, do you mean that if it's someone who has said that they're ok with someone doing it or that they know them so well that they're confident that person would be perfectly fine with it...saying that it's not as if it was Liz but ok with a 'type' of girl and that people would know that type of girl is a bit confusing as to what a 'type' is...

I'm saying people know people. and what you can and cannot do.
your not going to see lee pulling down liz's top are you.
you dont see strangers walk in bars and slap some random guy on the head and say hello. but mates do it to eachother.

if she has no problem with it then there is no problem.

[Ammi]

I'm saying people know people. and what you can and cannot do.
your not going to see lee pulling down liz's top are you.
you dont see strangers walk in bars and slap some random guy on the head and say hello. but mates do it to eachother.

if she has no problem with it then there is no problem.

...you’re right, we don’t know exactly what happened and haven’t seen it on BB, so we'll wait to see if it's shown... but if it is all true, then BB rightfully gave Lee a warning as they would have done to any of the other housemates if they had done the same because there is no ‘type’ of housemate that shouldn’t have got a warning, the same as there is no ‘type’ of housemate that it’s ok to do that to...it’s equally as unacceptable to assume it would be ok with Luisa as it would be to assume it would be ok with Liz or any other female in the house....

[Slevin]

i dont give a **** who did it or who it was done to. no one should do that to anyone.

[PrincessIona]

Someone pulling a woman's top up isn't much of an issue? Of course it is! And whether or not it's a stranger doing it or someone you know doesn't matter. It's about not having the right to make decisions about someone else's body, end of.

:umm2:

To clarify - what I meant was most clubs don't seem to care about stuff like this - I didn't mean I think it's ok! I've been at the receiving end of this sort of thing many a time and on my request to have men who have done this sort thing thrown out I've been treated like I was over reacting!

I'm absolutely hate this sort of behaviour, but it just seems be accepted in most places - which is what I meant in my original comments which reading it back weren't worded very well!

Although I do think it was an over reaction of bb because Lee and Luisa know each other and I believe she would have been fine with it

[MachoPoodle]

To clarify - what I meant was most clubs don't seem to care about stuff like this - I didn't mean I think it's ok! I've been at the receiving end of this sort of thing many a time and on my request to have men who have done this sort thing thrown out I've been treated like I was over reacting!


That makes more sense. Sorry you had that done to you and then to top it off were met with indifference from those supposed to back you up. :sad:

[Samm]

Lee is a perv

[Samm]

Yeah I cannot see the slapper complaining.

:umm2: how is Luisa a slapper

[Seraphim]

I think Lee's behaviour is disgusting. Luisa has not been flashing her boobs around for all to see. I don't care whether a woman is a prostitute or a nun, there is such a thing as knowing where acceptable boundaries are, and Lee has crossed them.

As far as thinking that it's OK if the woman doesn't mind - how can he know if the woman will mind? He's not a mind reader. Maybe he thinks that it was OK because Luisa has been having a bit of a carry-on with Dappy throughout the series. She has not been behaving that way with Lee, as far as I have noticed. It wouldn't even be OK if Dappy did it. I hope she makes an official complaint to the police.

[armand.kay]

Nobody has the right to do that to anyone else, regardless of the promiscuous nature of their character.
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[mrmattybeck1]

Is this a joke

[InOne]

They knew each other before they went in but he obviously crossed a boundary doing that.