Is Luisa changing her behaviour after what she saw about Linda?

[Vanessa]

Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive 42s
11.08am: Jim and Luisa are planning to cook dinner together tonight. Are they finally bonding?! #bbuklive

It looks like she's already changing her attitude. :suspect:

[HBB1508]

This could be an interesting turn of events - Linda won't be happy if Luisa jumps sides.

[Kizzy]

Luisa knows how jim operates, however she can see how lindas reactions to his provocation could be misconstrued.

[Niamh.]

I think if Luisa did consider herself a "friend" of Lindas though she should tell linda that she's coming across badly when it comes to Jim

[Vanessa]

I wouldn't mind to see a frienship between these two. I know it's unlikely, but stranger things have happened. :joker:

[Vanessa]

I think if Luisa did consider herself a "friend" of Lindas though she should tell linda that she's coming across badly when it comes to Jim

She may keep it to herself.

[Niamh.]

She may keep it to herself.

hhhmmm I don't know would she though, she's so far come across as brutally honest with people

[Vanessa]

hhhmmm I don't know would she though, she's so far come across as brutally honest with people

She may want to save herself. If she's nicer to Jim i think it will help her with the vote. Jim is favourite to win.

[Pincho Paxton]

Luisa is intelligent, and so is using it.

[Ellen]

I think Luisa is well aware of Jim's good & bad points, she did quite like him before all the crap with Linda got obsessive. She has probably worked out how it has been coming across after watching Linda.

[Vanessa]

Luisa is intelligent, and so is using it.

She knows how linda comes across, so the public is on Jim's side. She'd be wise to stick with him.

[harleyS]

I think all the huskies are changing their attitude towards Linda. Except Luisa and sorry to add him, Dappy are the only ones who will remember it.
Lee and Casey are too self preoccupied to stick to their "discovery".

Personally I think the whole brandy fight started because Dappy kept saying "Thanks Jim" and it enraged Linda because she believed Jim was gaining their favour. Unbeknownst to her, it was her own nasty attitude that made them disregard her.
I don't know if Big Brother will reveal to the 'humans' that the huskies saw footage of them in the Kennel. But if he does, watch it kick off. Because Linda won't know how to react when she realises everyone saw her nasty self.

[Brother Leon]

Sometimes you need to see things from the outside to see the proper picture. Luisa has realised that Jim isn't the person Linda made him out to be and that is is Linda trying her hardest to get a reaction from him.

[Vanessa]

I think all the huskies are changing their attitude towards Linda. Except Luisa and sorry to add him, Dappy are the only ones who will remember it.
Lee and Casey are too self preoccupied to stick to their "discovery".

Personally I think the whole brandy fight started because Dappy kept saying "Thanks Jim" and it enraged Linda because she believed Jim was gaining their favour. Unbeknownst to her, it was her own nasty attitude that made them disregard her.
I don't know if Big Brother will reveal to the 'humans' that the huskies saw footage of them in the Kennel. But if he does, watch it kick off. Because Linda won't know how to react when she realises everyone saw her nasty self.

They should show them the footage. Watch Linda kick off. :joker::devil:

[Ellen]

They should show them the footage. Watch Linda kick off. :joker::devil:

Didnt Linda see Luisa say that she was coming across as a bitter something or another when they revealed the task results?

[Rachael1904]

I think all the huskies are changing their attitude towards Linda. Except Luisa and sorry to add him, Dappy are the only ones who will remember it.
Lee and Casey are too self preoccupied to stick to their "discovery".

Personally I think the whole brandy fight started because Dappy kept saying "Thanks Jim" and it enraged Linda because she believed Jim was gaining their favour. Unbeknownst to her, it was her own nasty attitude that made them disregard her.
I don't know if Big Brother will reveal to the 'humans' that the huskies saw footage of them in the Kennel. But if he does, watch it kick off. Because Linda won't know how to react when she realises everyone saw her nasty self.

You're right. Dappy's comments enraged her. She can't bear anyone to like Jim.

[Vanessa]

Didnt Linda see Luisa say that she was coming across as a bitter something or another when they revealed the task results?

She hasn't told Linda, but the housemates have been talking about it.

[Cherie]

I think if Luisa did consider herself a "friend" of Lindas though she should tell linda that she's coming across badly when it comes to Jim

It would gain her brownie points with the public if she did. I did wonder if she would change towards Jim after what she saw, as she was so curious as to why he was so popular on the outside, wonder will it last.

[harleyS]

They should show them the footage. Watch Linda kick off. :joker::devil:
I bet you she'd cry and victimize herself as usual:bawling:
The only people who'd honestly take her seriously after would be Casey and Sam probably.

Linda is a mean girl *insert quotes from mean girls* except now she's old and has a body with the consistency of pancake batter :facepalm:
Don't know why she's on this show, I hope she gets a real job (no tv please) and learns to live without bringing others down because she feels so worthless.

I may think she's a horrid old cow but everyone is when they play the victim role all their life and don't actively try to improve themselves.

[Vanessa]

It would gain her brownie points with the public if she did. I did wonder if she would change towards Jim after what she saw, as she was so curious as to why he was so popular on the outside, wonder will it last.

If she's smart she'd stay close to Jim. Linda is the least popular in there. She's backing the wrong horse. :joker:

[harleyS]

Didnt Linda see Luisa say that she was coming across as a bitter something or another when they revealed the task results?
Was this posted somewhere? I've only seen the shows

[Z]

Sometimes you need to see things from the outside to see the proper picture. Luisa has realised that Jim isn't the person Linda made him out to be and that is is Linda trying her hardest to get a reaction from him.

Well, I think Jim probably was and perhaps still is the person that Linda makes him out to be - but the important thing is that he hasn't been that person in the Big Brother house and Linda shouting it on repeat with her fingers in her ears isn't going to change that. It's making her look stupid.

[Ellen]

Was this posted somewhere? I've only seen the shows

It was on the Celeb bb web site. I thought they showed Linda see Luisa say she come across as been bitter when they revealed the truth about the task.

[Kizzy]

Sometimes you need to see things from the outside to see the proper picture. Luisa has realised that Jim isn't the person Linda made him out to be and that is is Linda trying her hardest to get a reaction from him.

Has luisa not experienced for herself first hand jims attitude?
It can't have come as too much of a shock that someone else finds him exasperating.

[Pincho Paxton]

Well, I think Jim probably was and perhaps still is the person that Linda makes him out to be - but the important thing is that he hasn't been that person in the Big Brother house and Linda shouting it on repeat with her fingers in her ears isn't going to change that. It's making her look stupid.

Jim probably is that person, but he must have realised that he does more harm to Linda by not biting than he would by taking the bait.

[Kazanne]

Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive 42s
11.08am: Jim and Luisa are planning to cook dinner together tonight. Are they finally bonding?! #bbuklive

It looks like she's already changing her attitude. :suspect:

She knows Jim is liked,lol crafty mare

[Vanessa]

She knows Jim is liked,lol crafty mare

I think she'll be spending more time with him, now she knows he's popular. If she's nice to him chances are he'll be nice back.

[Pincho Paxton]

She playing the part of getting hired, which is her natural role.

[Niamh.]

I think she'll be spending more time with him, now she knows he's popular. If she's nice to him chances are he'll be nice back.

She's known he was popular for quite a while though, all the time watching them in the kennel taught her was that maybe Linda was starting alot of their arguments

[Vanessa]

She's known he was popular for quite a while though, all the time watching them in the kennel taught her was that maybe Linda was starting alot of their arguments

Yes, but she didn't know how bad Linda was coming across. Now she knows that the public are on Jim's side on that feud.

[Kizzy]

Are they?...

[Niamh.]

Yes, but she didn't know how bad Linda was coming across. Now she knows that the public are on Jim's side on that feud.

Yeah, but it wouldn't have taken a genius to work that out anyway since Jim been getting cheered and finishing top of the votes eachtime, obviously if he's that popular then the public must think he's not in the wrong in the feud between him and Linda

[Niamh.]

Are they?...

I would say the majority are yeah

[Vanessa]

Are they?...

Yes. Just look at the odds and you'll know. Jim favourite to win, Linda is last. :hugesmile:

[Ammi]

..I would be surprised if Luisa changed her behaviour toward Jim, after seeing Linda differently but she'll probably see more that it hasn't been easy for him, so maybe she'll make allowances for that enough for them both to have a less clashing relationship...I still think she'll be herself though, I think that she has from the start and credit to her that she did look at all without bias, just because she doesn't like Jim much...

[Vanessa]

Yeah, but it wouldn't have taken a genius to work that out anyway since Jim been getting cheered and finishing top of the votes eachtime, obviously if he's that popular then the public must think he's not in the wrong in the feud between him and Linda

I think seeing it for herself has made Luisa realise she's been backing the wrong horse. :joker:

[Vanessa]

..I would be surprised if Luisa changed her behaviour toward Jim, after seeing Linda differently but she'll probably see more that it hasn't been easy for him, so maybe she'll make allowances for that enough for them both to have a less clashing relationship...I still think she'll be herself though, I think that she has from the start and credit to her that she did look at all without bias, just because she doesn't like Jim much...

Imagine if they become friends. Linda will be fuming! :laugh2:

[Ammi]

..did Luisa ever 'back a horse'..?..I don't think she did, I think she's just been herself...

[Ammi]

Imagine if they become friends. Linda will be fuming! :laugh2:

..oh yes, I think Linda will definitely be fuming..:laugh:..

[Vanessa]

..did Luisa ever 'back a horse'..?..I don't think she did, I think she's just been herself...

Most of the housemates are on Linda's side on the whole Jim/Linda feud. But this is changing now they can see how nasty Linda is.

[Z]

..did Luisa ever 'back a horse'..?..I don't think she did, I think she's just been herself...

Yeah I agree. I think Luisa might give Jim less of a hard time because she realises how bad Linda looks fighting with him all the time and perhaps thinks she also looks bad for doing the same but she's not about to pretend to be his friend after weeks of not liking him

[Vanessa]

Yeah I agree. I think Luisa might give Jim less of a hard time because she realises how bad Linda looks fighting with him all the time and perhaps thinks she also looks bad for doing the same but she's not about to pretend to be his friend after weeks of not liking him

They don't have to be friends to get on.

[Ammi]

Most of the housemates are on Linda's side on the whole Jim/Linda feud. But this is changing now they can see how nasty Linda is.

..I think Luisa was genuinely shocked at seeing it all from 'the outside' and there has been 'right' and 'wrong' on both Linda and Jim's part, but for the first time what Luisa saw was the strength of Linda's hatred...that's a pretty ugly thing to see in someone you've thought highly of, which she probably did/does with Linda...

[Vanessa]

..I think Luisa was genuinely shocked at seeing it all from 'the outside' and there has been 'right' and 'wrong' on both Linda and Jim's part, but for the first time what Luisa saw was the strength of Linda's hatred...that's a pretty ugly thing to see in someone you've thought highly of, which she probably did/does with Linda...

Linda has turned most of the housemates against Jim. Rememeber when she sat on the bed and started bitching about him to everyone? She's been dissing him ever since. It's very nasty and uncalled for. :nono:

[Ammi]

Yeah I agree. I think Luisa might give Jim less of a hard time because she realises how bad Linda looks fighting with him all the time and perhaps thinks she also looks bad for doing the same but she's not about to pretend to be his friend after weeks of not liking him

..I don't think she even cares whether she would look bad tbh...you wouldn't tell the nation that you had five sexual partners in one night, if you were worried about their judgement...I just think that she probably genuinely now has a little more understanding of how it's been for Jim and how awful Linda has been, which must have been a shock to her...

[Niamh.]

..I think Luisa was genuinely shocked at seeing it all from 'the outside' and there has been 'right' and 'wrong' on both Linda and Jim's part, but for the first time what Luisa saw was the strength of Linda's hatred...that's a pretty ugly thing to see in someone you've thought highly of, which she probably did/does with Linda...

yeah i agree, one thing i do like about Luisa is her objectivity and honesty, even with her "friends" in there And i don't mean honesty in the "lets just excuse so and so being a mean bitch by saying she's just being honest" anytime I've seen her call up people in there, it's done in a pretty constructive manner to be far to Luisa

[Vanessa]

yeah i agree, one thing i do like about Luisa is her objectivity and honesty, even with her "friends" in there And i don't mean honesty in the "lets just excuse so and so being a mean bitch by saying she's just being honest" anytime I've seen her call up people in there, it's done in a pretty constructive manner to be far to Luisa

There's no reason that Luisa and Jim should argue. If she's nice to him he'll be nice back. It's as simple as that.

[Niamh.]

There's no reason that Luisa and Jim should argue. If she's nice to him he'll be nice back. It's as simple as that.

Lets not make Jim out to be a saint here either though, he's started alot of the rows concerning Luisa as well

[Ammi]

yeah i agree, one thing i do like about Luisa is her objectivity and honesty, even with her "friends" in there And i don't mean honesty in the "lets just excuse so and so being a mean bitch by saying she's just being honest" anytime I've seen her call up people in there, it's done in a pretty constructive manner to be far to Luisa

..I think if she was going to 'tactically change sides' because she realised how bad Linda looked, she just wouldn't have said anything because she would know that the public would criticise her for that..she would have just kept quiet but distanced herself from Linda...whatever people feel about Luisa's 'promiscuity' and sexual behaviour, I think she is an honest and open person...

[Vanessa]

Lets not make Jim out to be a saint here either though, he's started alot of the rows concerning Luisa as well

That's because she's been trying to wind him up. Even she admitted that.

[Ammi]

There's no reason that Luisa and Jim should argue. If she's nice to him he'll be nice back. It's as simple as that.

..or they could both be nice to each other at the same time...

[Vanessa]

..I think if she was going to 'tactically change sides' because she realised how bad Linda looked, she just wouldn't have said anything because she would know that the public would criticise her for that..she would have just kept quiet but distanced herself from Linda...whatever people feel about Luisa's 'promiscuity' and sexual behaviour, I think she is an honest and open person...

Housemates have been talking about it. I'm suprised Linda doesn't know yet. :suspect:

[Vanessa]

..or they could both be nice to each other at the same time...

Yes, that will work. I bet they can get on if they try.

[Niamh.]

That's because she's been trying to wind him up. Even she admitted that.

And so has he though? That whole women ironing shirts crap? That wasn't designed to wind her up? I think it was

[Ammi]

That's because she's been trying to wind him up. Even she admitted that.

..yeah, that is something that's good about her, she is quite honest...I don't think for one minute that he hasn't also been winding her up as well but I think it's harder for him to admit that...

[Ammi]

And so has he though? That whole women ironing shirts crap? That wasn't designed to wind her up? I think it was

..yeah, that is something that's good about her, she is quite honest...I don't think for one minute that he hasn't also been winding her up as well but I think it's harder for him to admit that...

..snap..:laugh:..

[Vanessa]

And so has he though? That whole women ironing shirts crap? That wasn't designed to wind her up? I think it was

She started the whole "let's wind Jim up" thing. Not surprised he responded. What was he supposed to do?

[Vanessa]

..yeah, that is something that's good about her, she is quite honest...I don't think for one minute that he hasn't also been winding her up as well but I think it's harder for him to admit that...

He didn't start it. She did.

[Ammi]

She started the whole "let's wind Jim up" thing. Not surprised he responded. What was he supposed to do?

..honestly, I think they're both been 'winding each other up' from the beginning because they're complete opposites but the difference is that there is no 'hatred' between them, they just have totally opposing views...and she's too noisy at night...:laugh:...

[Niamh.]

He didn't start it. She did.

Oh give over, they've been winding eachother up since the start, no one started it, they just clash

[Ammi]

He didn't start it. She did.

..I don't think either of them 'started it'..they just clashed/they were always going to clash...you couldn't get two more opposite people...

[Ammi]

Oh give over, they've been winding eachother up since the start, no one started it, they just clash

..I don't think either of them 'started it'..they just clashed/they were always going to clash...you couldn't get two more opposite people...

..spooky...

[Vanessa]

..honestly, I think they're both been 'winding each other up' from the beginning because they're complete opposites but the difference is that there is no 'hatred' between them, they just have totally opposing views...and she's too noisy at night...:laugh:...

We'll just have to aree to disagree on this i'm afraid.

[Vanessa]

Oh give over, they've been winding eachother up since the start, no one started it, they just clash

She admitted she has been trying to wind him up on purpose. That is my opinion. I guess we'll just have to agree to disgree.

[Niamh.]

..spooky...

:love:

[Niamh.]

She admitted she has been trying to wind him up on purpose. That is my opinion. I guess we'll just have to agree to disgree.

Because she's more honest than Jim :idc:

[Vanessa]

..spooky...

Not spooky. We just have different opinion. :spin:

[Vanessa]

Because she's more honest than Jim :idc:

No, she's really not. I can't agree with that. Sorry!

[Niamh.]

No, she's really not. I can't agree with that. Sorry!

You better be sorry :fist:

[Vanessa]

I have a different opinion to both of you. Make fun of me, if you like. It won't make me change my mind. I'm entitled to my opinion.

[Niamh.]

I have a different opinion to both of you. Make fun of me, if you like. It won't make me change my mind. I'm entitled to my opinion.

ah Vanessa, I was only messing with you, there wasn't a whole lot else to say on the matter, we'd reached a stale mate :laugh:

[Ammi]

Not spooky. We just have different opinion. :spin:


..I meant spooky in that it was twice that Niamh and I both posted more or less the same thing at the same time, that wasn't directed at you in any way...


...so far as Jim/Luisa is concerned, yeah we will have to agree to disagree because winding people up is what Jim does but he can't really openly admit it because CBB has been so important to him for public opinion, and I do appreciate that, I understand his reasons but that doesn't change the fact that Luisa has been very honest from the start so I would be surprised if she was in any way 'tactically befriending' Jim..it's maybe more that she sees that it hasn't been easy for him but still doesn't agree with most of his views...

[Seraphim]

she's old and has a body with the consistency of pancake batter :facepalm:



There's no need to make nasty comments on Lindas' looks. She's still very attractive when she's in a good mood and isn't looking so sour.

Comments like that sound ageist and cruel.

[Niamh.]

There's no need to make nasty comments on Lindas' looks. She's still very attractive when she's in a good mood and isn't looking so sour.

Comments like that sound ageist and cruel.

Indeed.

[Vanessa]

It's started already. Casey told Sam to stay away from Linda. Looks like she's losing her hold on the girls. If Jim survives i can see Linda picking up a few nominations. :suspect:

[optimisticcynic]

Jim and Dappy have similar attitudes towards women, although Jim is more able to express his views in words and Dappy, bless, can only do it by rubbing his wang on their legs. Yet I do not see Luisa asking Jim to nibble on her nipple. Luisa's issues with Jim were fuelled by Linda's smear-campaign and Luisa is hopefully beginning to realise this.

[Vanessa]

..I meant spooky in that it was twice that Niamh and I both posted more or less the same thing at the same time, that wasn't directed at you in any way...


...so far as Jim/Luisa is concerned, yeah we will have to agree to disagree because winding people up is what Jim does but he can't really openly admit it because CBB has been so important to him for public opinion, and I do appreciate that, I understand his reasons but that doesn't change the fact that Luisa has been very honest from the start so I would be surprised if she was in any way 'tactically befriending' Jim..it's maybe more that she sees that it hasn't been easy for him but still doesn't agree with most of his views...

I think they can get on , despite not liking each other.

[Ammi]

There's no need to make nasty comments on Lindas' looks. She's still very attractive when she's in a good mood and isn't looking so sour.
Comments like that sound ageist and cruel.

..yeah, I agree with you on comments about people's physical appearance but I do think that's the thing for me, if she's seen as 'ugly' it's because she's displaying an inner ugliness because of how much negativity she holds onto...it's sad that she seems like such a generally unhappy person...

[Vanessa]

Next round of nominations will be intesting. I think Linda's game is up. :devil:

[Ammi]

I think they can get on , despite not liking each other.

..yeah, I think maybe they can find some common ground and if they do, then I think it'll be genuine and not for tactical reasons...

[Vanessa]

..yeah, I think maybe they can find some common ground and if they do, then I think it'll be genuine and not for tactical reasons...

They both like cooking. That could be a good common ground.

[Pincho Paxton]

I'm still waiting for Alan Sugar to be on the show.

[Vanessa]

I'm still waiting for Alan Sugar to be on the show.

He'll just come in to tell Luisa : you're fired! :nono::joker:

[rusticgal]

hhhmmm I don't know would she though, she's so far come across as brutally honest with people


She will do anything to win....she is ruthless. She has realised why the public are supporting Jim and she thought she would gain support in being the single minded woman who could slay the 'male chauvinist'....failing to realise Jim is not actually coming across as one...and that he is actually fun to watch. She also has seen how Linda is coming across....and she doesn't need to associate herself with that after getting rid of her bitching partner and possibly coming across more likeable....let's hope the public don't see through this because despite everything....she has been entertaining but she definitely does not deserve to win.

[Lex]

There's no need to make nasty comments on Lindas' looks. She's still very attractive when she's in a good mood and isn't looking so sour.

Comments like that sound ageist and cruel.

Well, when you are not scared of slagging people off yourself, like Linda constantly does...you should expect no courtesy from others!...And I say that for a girl of 54, Linda Nolan hasn't worn too well! In fact,close-ups of her face reminds me of those 'Spitting Image Puppets'!...and i'm 30 years older than Linda...so it's not ageist is it!...she could have been a beautiful person without having to have worn well...looks aint everything!...but imho, she's chosen to be ugly!!... :inamood: damn shame.

[Scream]

Doubt she'll tell Linda...she wants to win. Let her crash and burn!

[reece(:]

She may want to save herself. If she's nicer to Jim i think it will help her with the vote. Jim is favourite to win.
Luisa doesn't have side access to oddschecker.

[Vanessa]

Luisa doesn't have side access to oddschecker.

He has topped the vote three times. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

[harleyS]

If Linda came across as a nice person I would never make those comments..but..

[Sophiee]

luisa will never like him because he's a male chauvinist. they'll always clash but it doesn't mean she that won't be civil with him.

[Seraphim]

Well, when you are not scared of slagging people off yourself, like Linda constantly does...you should expect no courtesy from others!. ...she could have been a beautiful person without having to have worn well...looks aint everything!...but imho, she's chosen to be ugly!!... :inamood: damn shame.

That's a very good way to put it, and doesn't bring her age or physical appearance into it at all.

[Lex]

That's a very good way to put it, and doesn't bring her age or physical appearance into it at all.

Thanks!..I knew you'd see sense in the end Sera! :thumbs: :whistle: