All she thinks about is money

[robroy_2000]

It's bad that she does not care about friends and wants more money

[delta]

She represents a type of human that we all should steer clear of. There is a difference between being a strong, emancipated, self assured, confident, independent woman and the sh!t stirring, self indulgent, monotoned voiced, moaning, scheming, back stabbing, slag that she is.

A waste of oxygen.

[GiRTh]

She represents a type of human that we all should steer clear of. There is a difference between being a strong, emancipated, self assured, confident, independent woman and the sh!t stirring, self indulgent, monotoned voiced, moaning, scheming, back stabbing, slag that she is.

A waste of oxygen.
:joker: :worship:

[Jordan.]

She represents a type of human that we all should steer clear of. There is a difference between being a strong, emancipated, self assured, confident, independent woman and the sh!t stirring, self indulgent, monotoned voiced, moaning, scheming, back stabbing, slag that she is.

A waste of oxygen.

Pressed

[Josy]

She never said that though? she said she has lots of friends and she's said before she's really close with them.

[robroy_2000]

She did say she got friend and she does not want any more as she trust the friends she has and does not want no more

[smeagol]

The modern woman. work and money money and work.

[Josy]

She did say she got friend and she does not want any more as she trust the friends she has and does not want no more

I think that's a fair enough thing to say if I'm honest, some people have enough friends in their life and just don't have the time/energy for aNy more.

[Mystic Mock]

It's bad that she does not care about friends and wants more money

Because she cares about money (like everybody does to some extent) means that she doesn't care about friends? How did you work that out?

[Nemo123]

Is it because she was on The Apprentice, or because she's Jewish, (like Alan Sugar)?

[joeysteele]

I thought she came across better in the highlights tonight to be fair, I wasn't bothered as to her being on about making money.
I am always planning ahead with that too but I do think to be fair to her, once you have her as a friend,she will be a loyal one.
I found her chats interesting,good highlights for her tonight definitely.
Making more money aside or not.

[coolface]

She represents a type of human that we all should steer clear of. There is a difference between being a strong, emancipated, self assured, confident, independent woman and the sh!t stirring, self indulgent, monotoned voiced, moaning, scheming, back stabbing, slag that she is.

A waste of oxygen.

she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

[Amy Jade]

Nothing wrong with only having a select few friends, some people look for quality over quantity.

[InOne]

she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

She'd definitely make a good dominatrix.

[Seraphim]

she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

Absolute rubbish and extremely offensive.

[Seraphim]

I understand what Luisa means about not having room for more friends. She already has friends, family, a little girl and three businesses, including one she's currently building. When I worked in one (demanding) full-time job with no children, I had a full quota of friends and family, and I had to schedule a night in each week to get some time to myself, because the rest of my time I was constantly on the go. You sometimes just can't fit in more people. Time isn't elastic.

[joeysteele]

Nothing wrong with only having a select few friends, some people look for quality over quantity.

Also, she is a businesswoman too, in business you have people who are with you all the way on the way up but are gone if things go wrong.
Fair weather friends.

I would bet she has already come across many people like that so is also wary of people.

[Samm]

I think Everbody on here would care more about the money then making friends

[MarcusMel]

Amazing how people don't uderstand her and want to put her down. You can see she cares, but has to make the hard decision occasionally.

[Seraphim]

I think Everbody on here would care more about the money then making friends

Exactly. If I wanted new friends I'd join some clubs and go to parties. Why on earth would anyone agree to put themselves through BB just to make friends! :laugh2:

[Sophiee]

I think Everbody on here would care more about the money then making friends
this completely. I know I would, it's most likely just not deemed as acceptable because it's coming from luisa at a guess :laugh:. jim saying this would be a different story I imagine.

[Pincho Paxton]

I just want a cinema room in my house, a supercomputer, and a cat.

[Dash Darington]

she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

I believe this as well.

[Ammi]

..I'm liking Luisa more and more..I think that it's helped not having Linda there because Luisa and Jim are of completely differing opinions and views and were never really going to get on but I don't think there is any 'hatred' between them, but Linda took the opportunity to encourage and feed Luisa's differences with Jim....I don't think Luisa will win because I think Jim will but I would love to see her come second, she's been a great housemate....

[Seraphim]

..I'm liking Luisa more and more..I think that it's helped not having Linda there because Luisa and Jim are of completely differing opinions and views and were never really going to get on but I don't think there is any 'hatred' between them, but Linda took the opportunity to encourage and feed Luisa's differences with Jim....I don't think Luisa will win because I think Jim will but I would love to see her come second, she's been a great housemate....

I agree. I'd like her to win but she hasn't got a fan base as such. I think that Jim and Luisa are both worthy winners, given that it's an entertainment show.

[lostalex]

I love Luisa. She hasn't lied, hasn't manipulated, she just tells it like it is. Granted she's a bit confrontational, but she's not a bully. Any woman who stands up for herself is seen as an uppity bitch in the UK. She's not a bitch though.

[Slevin]

oh so now its a problem to wanna make money? gmafb. if she thinks she has enough friends and doesnt feel like she has time for anymore then so be it. doesnt make her a bad person. many people have thought at times. rather have a small close knit group of trusted friends than a bunch of fake ass hanger ons.

[Jemal]

Tbh. I dont like her.
But all i want is paper aswell lol.
Money makes life more happier. So why not chase it?

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by coolface
she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

I believe this as well.

What absolute nonsense. Luisa is nothing like a sociopath. If you had even the most rudimentary understanding of what a sociopath is, you would know that there is a different member of the final five who is displaying some of the behaviour associated with sociopathy. I'm not saying that the person who displays the sociopathic traits is indeed a sociopath. The motivations (subconscious and conscious) behind people's behaviour are not always clear. Sociopaths are manipulative, charming, cunning and lie through their teeth with no conscience, making them very hard to detect. No-one can/should judge based on a selection of snippets which someone else has cut and pasted together to make good viewing in a reality show.

[Livia]

Luisa needs to talk less and read more. She continually used the wrong word in the wrong situation and makes herself look ridiculous. For someone who portrays herself as intelligent, she's pretty thick.

[Blue Cadillac]

Luisa needs to talk less and read more. She continually used the wrong word in the wrong situation and makes herself look ridiculous. For someone who portrays herself as intelligent, she's pretty thick.

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

[Livia]

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

Yes she did say that. She also told Jim last night she was being "colloquial" when I think she meant 'casual'.

[lostalex]

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

no, i think that was casey.

[lostalex]

Yes she did say that. She also told Jim last night she was being "colloquial" when I think she meant 'casual'.

no, she meant colloquial, and she used the word correctly. She was saying that she was using friendly language with him. So she used the word correctly.

[Slevin]

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

no, i think that was casey.
i thought it was Sam cause she was in the DR talking about how she thinks she was nom'd for strategy reasons.

i remember someone in a regular series got the two mixed up as well before. i feel like it was Caroline but im not sure.

[MarcusMel]

Success comes to those who are consistent and persistent.
This is said in Napoleon Hills book think and grow rich.

[MrWong]

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

Yes she did say that. She also told Jim last night she was being "colloquial" when I think she meant 'casual'.

No she didn't.

[rionablue]

I love Luisa. Sassy, honest and as other posters have said Im sure she is a very loyal friend. I hope she wins

[Gusto Brunt]

She represents a type of human that we all should steer clear of. There is a difference between being a strong, emancipated, self assured, confident, independent woman and the sh!t stirring, self indulgent, monotoned voiced, moaning, scheming, back stabbing, slag that she is.

A waste of oxygen.

You're my friend for life. That was put so well. :)

[Dash Darington]

she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

What absolute nonsense. Luisa is nothing like a sociopath. If you had even the most rudimentary understanding of what a sociopath is, you would know that there is a different member of the final five who is displaying some of the behaviour associated with sociopathy. I'm not saying that the person who displays the sociopathic traits is indeed a sociopath. The motivations (subconscious and conscious) behind people's behaviour are not always clear. Sociopaths are manipulative, charming, cunning and lie through their teeth with no conscience, making them very hard to detect. No-one can/should judge based on a selection of snippets which someone else has cut and pasted together to make good viewing in a reality show.

You just described her, along with her extreme boldness, lack of inhibition, and impulsivity. All characteristics of sociopaths. ~1% of the population is made up of sociopaths. They aren't rare, and it doesn't make her a serial killer or something.

I think the average reality TV viewer (not particularly bright, if we're honest) would be astonished at how many sociopaths there are in reality shows. Given their nature, it's not surprising they excel at them.

[Niamh.]

She's being real, they're all out for themselves in there and acting like they're not, Luisa is telling the truth. I hear her talking about her real life loved ones alot

[Livia]

No she didn't.

She did! I said before I hope you never get called as a witness. I'm changing that to I really hope you're never called as a witness.

[Livia]

no, she meant colloquial, and she used the word correctly. She was saying that she was using friendly language with him. So she used the word correctly.

No, alex... that's just not true.

[Niamh.]

the tactile instead of tactical happened in a different series didn't it? I don't think Luisa said that

[Livia]

the tactile instead of tactical happened in a different series didn't it? I don't think Luisa said that

Niamh... it was last week!

I can understand people being mesmerised by the Jewish girl, but snap out of it woman!

[Niamh.]

Niamh... it was last week!

I can understand people being mesmerised by the Jewish girl, but snap out of it woman!

Maybe I missed it then but It definitely happened in another series by someone else as well

[MarcusMel]

Tony Robbins on success.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c169eBsYHG0

[Slevin]

Sam said Jim was being tactile when she meant tactical in the DR about the noms. i dont think Luisa said that. cant find it anywhere on other forums as well if she did and i dont feel like shuffling through eps to find it. Sam did say it and it was laughed on here and other places. yes it was also said in another series. like i said above i think it was Caroline.

[MrWong]

She did! I said before I hope you never get called as a witness. I'm changing that to I really hope you're never called as a witness.

Yeah you said that the other day in the Dappy thread and was proved wrong.

Sam said tactile instead of tactical. Not Luisa.

She was in the diary room and accused Jim of being 'tactile' for nominating her.

I remember thinking at the time that she was going for the Joey Essex stupid vote.

I hope you never get called as a witness.

[Seraphim]

Sociopaths are manipulative, charming, cunning and lie through their teeth with no conscience,

You just described her, along with her extreme boldness, lack of inhibition, and impulsivity. All characteristics of sociopaths. ~1% of the population is made up of sociopaths. They aren't rare, and it doesn't make her a serial killer or something.

I think the average reality TV viewer (not particularly bright, if we're honest) would be astonished at how many sociopaths there are in reality shows. Given their nature, it's not surprising they excel at them.

Charming? Really? It's funny that you see her that way when she constantly clashes with people because she's so outspoken and slightly brash.

Lying through her teeth with no conscience? Give me one example.

Manipulative? Everyone exhibits behaviour which can be seen as manipulative, but I don't think Luisa is any different from your average person.

As for this lot:

"extreme boldness, lack of inhibition, and impulsivity."

Drink causes that too, as do loads of other things. I don't really see Luisa as "extremely bold": she likes pushing boundaries, but she knows when to stop. I have also seen how a proper lack of inhibition looks from the inside of a psychiatric assessment unit. Rest assured, it looks different from Luisa.

[sampvt]

She is the master manipulator and loves people to think she is an intelligent business woman with oodles of sex appeal, when in reality she is of average intelligent, very street wise, her businesses are flagging and she uses men to get what she wants. She talks a good game. She is above average in the looks department but that's all ruined when she opens her whinging mouth and that screechy little voice comes out.

She has been interesting in this series but its sad to see how many people she has sucked into her little act. Her appearance on the apprentice has been totally different from on here so one can only assume she has game plans that have unravelled as quickly as they were made up. I cant warm to her but I can understand how she has the keyboard and tissue brigade under her spell.

[the truth]

She is the master manipulator and loves people to think she is an intelligent business woman with oodles of sex appeal, when in reality she is of average intelligent, very street wise, her businesses are flagging and she uses men to get what she wants. She talks a good game. She is above average in the looks department but that's all ruined when she opens her whinging mouth and that screechy little voice comes out.

She has been interesting in this series but its sad to see how many people she has sucked into her little act. Her appearance on the apprentice has been totally different from on here so one can only assume she has game plans that have unravelled as quickly as they were made up. I cant warm to her but I can understand how she has the keyboard and tissue brigade under her spell.

yep. shes a laughing stock

[Z]

She is the master manipulator and loves people to think she is an intelligent business woman with oodles of sex appeal, when in reality she is of average intelligent, very street wise, her businesses are flagging and she uses men to get what she wants. She talks a good game. She is above average in the looks department but that's all ruined when she opens her whinging mouth and that screechy little voice comes out.

She has been interesting in this series but its sad to see how many people she has sucked into her little act. Her appearance on the apprentice has been totally different from on here so one can only assume she has game plans that have unravelled as quickly as they were made up. I cant warm to her but I can understand how she has the keyboard and tissue brigade under her spell.

I think she's very transparent but I'd much rather she won for putting on an entertaining act than Ollie or Sam who have put on a boring act. Jim, Dappy and Luisa have been faker than press on nails but it's made for great TV.

[Seraphim]

Sam said tactile instead of tactical. Not Luisa.

She was in the diary room and accused Jim of being 'tactile' for nominating her.

I remember thinking at the time that she was going for the Joey Essex stupid vote.

I hope you never get called as a witness.

I'd agree that it was Sam, to my recollection.

I find Luisa is very articulate and uses a wide vocabulary appropriately.

When Jim asked what 'colloquially' meant, she said she'd been speaking casually, using words like "miserable git" etc. Sounds right to me.

[MrWong]

I cant warm to her but I can understand how she has the keyboard and tissue brigade under her spell.

Veiled insults towards fans of Luisa :nono:

[Seraphim]

She is the master manipulator and loves people to think she is an intelligent business woman with oodles of sex appeal, when in reality she is of average intelligent, very street wise, her businesses are flagging and she uses men to get what she wants. She talks a good game. She is above average in the looks department but that's all ruined when she opens her whinging mouth and that screechy little voice comes out.

She has been interesting in this series but its sad to see how many people she has sucked into her little act. Her appearance on the apprentice has been totally different from on here so one can only assume she has game plans that have unravelled as quickly as they were made up. I cant warm to her but I can understand how she has the keyboard and tissue brigade under her spell.

As I said before, everyone exhibits behaviour which can be seen as manipulative, but I don't think Luisa is any different from your average person, or from the other housemates. She was exactly the same on the Apprentice. I heard her using the silly baby voice in the house (Apprentice house) when they were having a laugh, etc., but obviously she's not going to act like that in a business environment. People behave differently in different social circumstances. That's completely normal. Luisa is a business woman. She is only 25, and Alan Sugar's advisers have unmasked people in every single series for making false claims about their businesses. They didn't do that with Luisa, and Alan Sugar was really torn whether to choose Luisa or the other girl, who is a qualified doctor. He only chose the other girl because Luisa's business was more modest in scale, so it wouldn't bring in so much money so quickly.

Everyone is different, and we all have good qualities and bad. Why are you so mean to people who are still learning and trying to make their way through the world? Why pick on one of the youngest people in the house? You don't know how you'd have behaved in a similar circumstance. You have your own faults. The average woman who'd had a baby in her early 20s would be claiming benefits or working part-time in someone else's business, if at all. So what if her businesses are flagging? There are businesses - large and small - going bust all the time at the moment. It's a tough economic climate. Some business ventures are more successful than others and Luisa doesn't have the advantage of years of experience.

I do find her interesting. She has a fantastic sense of humour and is hugely entertaining. She's gutsy, determined, optimistic, understanding, loyal, upfront, doesn't hold a grudge and has managed to get to the final of the Apprentice and now CBB, having outshone a clutch of other people who had the enormous advantage of fame: Evander (sporting legend), Liz Jones (award-winning journalist with enormous readership in a tabloid newspaper) Lionel Blair, (household name), a Nolan sister (household name), and Lee (pop idol). That's a pretty impressive accomplishment, to be honest.

[Seraphim]

Veiled insults towards fans of Luisa :nono:

From someone who calls Luisa manipulative :laugh2:

[abhorson]

We mostly know that Luisa would throw anyone under a bus to get what she wants. And if her plan does not work then try plan B. Dangerous, nasty? You either like that side to her or you don't.

I would guess that most don't.

[Seraphim]

We mostly know that Luisa would throw anyone under a bus to get what she wants. And if her plan does not work then try plan B. Dangerous, nasty? You either like that side to her or you don't.

I would guess that most don't.

Lol.. Well, I'd not complain too much if she threw some of her critics under a bus. I might give her a hand. :laugh:

[moni81]

Sorry but EVERYBODY that is in there even JIM is thinking about money

[abhorson]

Sorry but EVERYBODY that is in there even JIM is thinking about money

True, but not all would go to her lengths to do so.

[abhorson]

Lol.. Well, I'd not complain too much if she threw some of her critics under a bus. I might give her a hand. :laugh:

:joker:

[sampvt]

Veiled insults towards fans of Luisa :nono:

oh how I missed you trolling my posts. lol :sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Pincho Paxton]

Here is an IQ test. Why do people go on Big Brother?

1/ Lentils?
2/ A good gunging?
3/ Insinuations, and Insults?
4/ Money?

Could you be in the top 60%... try the test now.

[MrWong]

oh how I missed you trolling my posts. lol :sleep::sleep::sleep:

Incorrect. I was pointing out the trolling in your post.

[Seraphim]

Here is an IQ test. Why do people go on Big Brother?

1/ Lentils?
2/ A good gunging?
3/ Insinuations, and Insults?
4/ Money?

Could you be in the top 60%... try the test now.

ROTFL :laugh3: