Louisa is a spineless bully.

[the truth]

shes a total hypocrite as we all know

she doesnt care what people think or feel....yet suddenly she doesnt like it when people criticize her

she tells it like it is , but cant take it back.....she pretends she can, but she cant

she says no man should talk to her like that , yet she pours verbal abuse at jim and dappy , shouts at an 82 yera old man and is also ageist towards him, then she preaches about equality? because she cant take it back? she screams sexism is a man dare say the same things back

she admits now that psycho linda has gone she may now be able to get on with jim a bit more....why couldnt she do that when jasmine and linda were in the house? because she goes with the crowd of man haters...spineless

she calls jim a sexist pig ...yet cant back it up when jim asks what have I done in here thats so sexist? she says oh you admitted you were sexist , jim replies......"yes when I admitted that you were crying and upset at the time and I said it to cheer you up and make you laugh, but you choose not to remember that":wavey:

jimbo rules every night, simply because hes fundamentally more sincere and more genuine. i also think depe down hes more truthful. louisa doesnt say it as it is. she is a one dimensional cartoon caricature. she even admitted her nominations she didnt really mean. yet she thought jims was nasty. yet she thought jim was playing to the cameras. he was he meant it. she was just playing up to linda and jasmine and the viewers who she thought wrongly would all hate jim , simply because they are mainly women. talk about steretyping women

louisa has spent far too much time in a small group of friends, probably phenomenally bitchy , vindictive spiteful selfish hurtful and nasty. she thinks everyone thinks like that and she gives in to the peer pressure of the bitching

the way she treated olly , who yes sounds as fake as a ten bob note at times, was mean and merciless. some thought it was funny? it was as funny as kicking a poodle in the face. pathetic

hopefully a few days with jimbo will at leats allow her to look at life differently and take more from this experience that cash and twitter followers.

[optimisticcynic]

Preach!

[Kate!]

We don't "all know it"

Some of us adore her.

[Withano]

tldr

[Samm]

You do not speak the truth

[Gusto Brunt]

I fear she might win this CBB. :eek:

I've noticed on YouTube she is getting more up-thumbs to win than Jim. :eek:

[Pete.]

I fear she might win this CBB. :eek:

I've noticed on YouTube she is getting more up-thumbs to win than Jim. :eek:
Imagine that an entertaining housemate is more popular than a bore

[GiRTh]

I think she's aterrififc reality TV contestant. She's smart, sassy but there is nothing a Find likeable about her. I think she is spineless but probably not a bully. She can dish it but cant take it and she seems to think even though she's not world famous or a millionaire that she is incredibly successful and people are intimidated by her 'success'.

[Vanessa]

I fear she might win this CBB. :eek:

I've noticed on YouTube she is getting more up-thumbs to win than Jim. :eek:

No, i think Jim has got it in the bag.

[Jord]

She's been the best housemate this series imo.

[Gusto Brunt]

Imagine that an entertaining housemate is more popular than a bore

She never entertained me.

[the truth]

I think she's aterrififc reality TV contestant. She's smart, sassy but there is nothing a Find likeable about her. I think she is spineless but probably not a bully. She can dish it but cant take it and she seems to think even though she's not world famous or a millionaire that she is incredibly successful and people are intimidated by her 'success'.

no theyre not. business people dont care what gender or sexuality or race of disability a perosn may or may not have. its all about the bottom line. respect, trust, integrity, as well as talent, creativity, hard wok etc she clearly has talent but lacks nearly every good character ingredient required

I think she has intelligence in many ways and seems to have done well in business and good luck to her. but her behaviour in the show whilst gaining her more notoriety than katie hopkins will lose her enormous respect , especially in the business community. would you do busienss with her? really? most people would run a mile.

I genuinely want her and all of them to come out and grow and become better more successful happier people. i fera she wont. she wil slip back into her narrow minded gang of socialites and carry on with her vile behaviour

[Northern Monkey]

Tl:dr

[Pete.]

She never entertained me.
Neither has Jim

[Gusto Brunt]

no theyre not. business people dont care what gender or sexuality or race of disability a perosn may or may not have. its all about the bottom line. respect, trust, integrity, as well as talent, creativity, hard wok etc she clearly has talent but lacks nearly every good character ingredient required

I think she has intelligence in many ways and seems to have done well in business and good luck to her. but her behaviour in the show whilst gaining her more notoriety than katie hopkins will lose her enormous respect , especially in the business community. would you do busienss with her? really? most people would run a mile.

I genuinely want her and all of them to come out and grow and become better more successful happier people. i fera she wont. she wil slip back into her narrow minded gang of socialites and carry on with her vile behaviour

I haven't a good word to say about her myself. Entertaining? In what fashion?

She's never made me laugh or anything. I find her hugely irritating and ignorant.

[the truth]

She's been the best housemate this series imo.

me neither shes not really an honest person, even though she keeps saying she is.....self praise is no recommendation. i have found her incredibly boring and predictable....all she has done is carry tales to upset people, take cheap shots like slandered jim wit accusations of being a sexist pig all day every day, or ridiculing the pathetic olly, or screaming at an old man? all with that incredibly boring voice? serious business person? ha

[Spring]

Luisa HAS entertained me. She's the best h/m this time imo.

[abhorson]

Made me laugh once but agree with OP and she is beating LEE in least liked poll.

[Arrow]

I find it funny that people claim she is a successful businesswoman


Would you invest in her cup cake shop?

Would a ftse 100 company go anywhere near her ?

[Kate!]

Luisa HAS entertained me. She's the best h/m this time imo.

:thumbs:

[the truth]

:joker:I find it funny that people claim she is a successful businesswoman


Would you invest in her cup cake shop?

Would a ftse 100 company go anywhere near her ?

no. but the endless man haters would say Im not investing because Im intimidated by a successful powerful businesss woman lol....im only intimidated by the thought of losing my hard earned dosh

[Seraphim]

I think she is great. She has entertained me, and she stands up for what she believes.. She doesn't always get it right, and is prepared to admit she's wrong when it's appropriate. She shows her intelligence in being able to understand different aspects of every argument, and in the creative way she has fun. She isn't spineless - she stood up to Dappy and told him when he made that sexist comment, and since then they've become friends. She is a bit full-on, but when she has teased people it was in a spirit of fun. She was influenced by Linda, as they all were, and she has admitted that. She isn't vindictive, in my opinion, and I'm not sure that she's more of a bully than anyone else - she hasn't really done much to deserve being called that: she nominated Jim and gave sound reasons, made up that jokey song about Ollie, and apologised while also explaining why she had done that, and how it had appeared to her (and many viewers agreed with her.) She squealed "It's the grim reaper" to Jim as a joke, etc. For her campaign speech, rather than slate someone, she nominated Lee for being a womaniser, albeit in a light-hearted way, and advised other women to stay away.

If I was her mother, I'd be very proud of her. I like others in the house too. There's simply no need to slate a young woman you don't know like this just because she's not your favourite to win.

P.S. Her cake shop is doing fine, and she doesn't need any investment. She went onto The Apprentice hoping to win funding for a 3rd business. Lord Alan Sugar had his top business advisers dig into Luisa's business affairs, check out her claims and look over her business plan for the new business (her 3rd) which she wanted to set up, and they didn't find anything wrong with it. It was a very close thing for winning the apprentice, but in the end, the other girl had bigger plans which would make a lot of money, and Lord Sugar always follows the money. Luisa has already got the funding for her new business from elsewhere, and it's already in operation. Her cake shop is still going strong too - one of the most recent reviews said that it was so popular that they'd had to queue to get served. That's not bad for a single mum in her mid 20s. Most others would be claiming benefit. I wonder what all the critics here had achieved by their mid-20s.

[Z]

All these people commenting on her business - do you really think many customers are going to be put off by her appearing in a TV program for a month if they enjoy her products? Do you think any investors are going to be put off by her personality if they see cause for investment? That's not how business works. Donald Trump is an unrepentant wanker yet he's more successful than ever. :shrug:

[joeysteele]

I think it is too late for her to win this series now, however she has turned things around and is for me, easier to watch now.

I think she is likely moving up the list but doubt she has time to be the winner now.I still don't think Jim will win although I would like to see him win.
I believe likely Ollie can take this or unfortunately Sam.

[smudgie]

I think she as been a great housemate, entertaining and makes a good 'bad' girl.:hugesmile:
Like a Panto villain.:dance:

[Nemo123]

I think Jim would have a serious breakdown if she won over him.

[Arrow]

All these people commenting on her business - do you really think many customers are going to be put off by her appearing in a TV program for a month if they enjoy her products? Do you think any investors are going to be put off by her personality if they see cause for investment? That's not how business works. Donald Trump is an unrepentant wanker yet he's more successful than ever. :shrug:


just giving people a reality check people are trying to put luisa in the same light as woman like virginia rometty and indra nooyi


why is sam not classed in the sam light as lusia ?



Amy childs is a more successful business woman then luisa says it all

[MarcusMel]

You know if this post was said about a forum member it would have been deleted - Its a pity I can't say anything about this thread as forum rules won't let me.

[Glenn.]

Luisa has been the most entertaining for me. Definitely deserves the win.

[Z]

just giving people a reality check people are trying to put luisa in the same light as woman like virginia rometty and indra nooyi


why is sam not classed in the sam light as lusia ?



Amy childs is a more successful business woman then luisa says it all

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Luisa is a small time business owner whose personality will not impede the every day running of her business operations. There'll be added exposure and interest in her products because of her stint on CBB; existing customers aren't likely to stop buying her products because she was on CBB, and even if they do, she's only gained from being on CBB - people saw what she was like on The Apprentice; they're not going to be put off by Celebrity Big Brother.

[the truth]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Luisa is a small time business owner whose personality will not impede the every day running of her business operations. There'll be added exposure and interest in her products because of her stint on CBB; existing customers aren't likely to stop buying her products because she was on CBB, and even if they do, she's only gained from being on CBB - people saw what she was like on The Apprentice; they're not going to be put off by Celebrity Big Brother.

thats nonsensical
a persons personality is a massive part of any business they create and run
her reputation and character has been badly exposed here. this would surely put off all investors

[Z]

thats nonsensical
a persons personality is a massive part of any business they create and run
her reputation and character has been badly exposed here. this would surely put off all investors

If you are investing in a business, you are investing in the product being sold and the way the operations are run, you're not making your decision based on whether or not you like the person in charge of it. Obviously it'll be a factor, but the positives of Luisa appearing on CBB far outweight the negatives, and if she manages to do well in the final then I don't think there would even be any negatives. She's not done anything in that house she can't recover from, her time in the house hasn't been defined by any one particular incident.

[the truth]

If you are investing in a business, you are investing in the product being sold and the way the operations are run, you're not making your decision based on whether or not you like the person in charge of it. Obviously it'll be a factor, but the positives of Luisa appearing on CBB far outweight the negatives, and if she manages to do well in the final then I don't think there would even be any negatives. She's not done anything in that house she can't recover from, her time in the house hasn't been defined by any one particular incident.

thats laughable. the character and integirty of the company owner is the biggets and most important part of the investment in any company. I suggest you read up on the great investors and entrepreneurs

[optimisticcynic]

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

[Z]

thats laughable. the character and integirty of the company owner is the biggets and most important part of the investment in any company. I suggest you read up on the great investors and entrepreneurs

Yeah okay, tell me how many of the world's greatest entrepreneurs got to the top by being pleasant and pandering to others. We're not even talking about a potential Bill Gates or Steve Jobs here, we're talking about a woman who runs a cupcake business and has used reality TV to further her career horizons. Being on the Apprentice gave her some initial exposure and CBB has helped promote her and her brand even further; how many small business owners have managed to do the same? The character of the company owner matters, yes, but not nearly as much as the actual business they are running or the products they are selling. People wear Coco Chanel and Hugo Boss products despite their extensive involvement with the Nazis because they like what the companies are selling; Luisa Zissman being a bit loud and argumentative on a Channel 5 TV program for a month is not going to matter in the slightest if people like what she's selling.

[rionablue]

I think she as been a great housemate, entertaining and makes a good 'bad' girl.:hugesmile:
Like a Panto villain.:dance:

I fully agree. Extremely entertaining and fortright I want her to win

[Mac1978]

Luisa has become my favourite. She's just really a very funny girl. As much as I didn't initially like her - I couldn't take that away from her. Then, I began to sense (as it seems Jim did too) that a lot of her ice-queen, superwoman, sex-addict crap, is just an act. That's not who she is - it's who she wants to be. And I have no idea why. Cause if she just acted like herself, she'd be much happier, and much more likeable. She definitely could have a future in comedy.

But as it stands, she's very immature, and so will probably go down the usual zelebrity road, surrounding herself with shallow morons who assist her in her superwoman delusion. It's sad, but probably true.

[Arrow]

Yeah okay, tell me how many of the world's greatest entrepreneurs got to the top by being pleasant and pandering to others. We're not even talking about a potential Bill Gates or Steve Jobs here, we're talking about a woman who runs a cupcake business and has used reality TV to further her career horizons. Being on the Apprentice gave her some initial exposure and CBB has helped promote her and her brand even further; how many small business owners have managed to do the same? The character of the company owner matters, yes, but not nearly as much as the actual business they are running or the products they are selling. People wear Coco Chanel and Hugo Boss products despite their extensive involvement with the Nazis because they like what the companies are selling; Luisa Zissman being a bit loud and argumentative on a Channel 5 TV program for a month is not going to matter in the slightest if people like what she's selling.

What im getting at is she is being labelled as a successful businesswoman why?
her business are worth £192

given the low standards that people are giving the label of 'successful businesswoman'' is sam faiers not a successful businesswoman ?

[MTVN]

I'm not even sure Luisa is really that in to her business, she was saying to Liz that she wanted to be a journalist and since the Apprentice has spend most of her time trying to keep herself relevant in gossip mags, lads mags, and stuff like that. She's probably content with her business staying relatively small and easy to manage rather than having high aspirations of becoming a multi millionaire from it living a very intensive life in the corporate world, something she even said she hated on the Apprentice.

[Z]

She managed to get a business off the ground, I'd call that a success. If you're measuring her success against, I dunno, Apple or Gazprom or McDonald's then obviously she's insignificant but it's a real achievement to start up your own business and manage to survive beyond the initial start up phase. Yeah she talks big but she's obviously proud of her achievements and I think she should be, not many people start businesses and manage to keep them going for very long. Being on Big Brother is priceless promotion for someone like Luisa.

Sam Faiers isn't a successful businesswoman, she's a reality TV star, there was no involvement in the business side of things on her behalf as far as I'm aware but correct me if I'm wrong... to my knowledge The Only Way Is Essex is run by a production company, not the people in the show...

[Arrow]

She managed to get a business off the ground, I'd call that a success. If you're measuring her success against, I dunno, Apple or Gazprom or McDonald's then obviously she's insignificant but it's a real achievement to start up your own business and manage to survive beyond the initial start up phase. Yeah she talks big but she's obviously proud of her achievements and I think she should be, not many people start businesses and manage to keep them going for very long. Being on Big Brother is priceless promotion for someone like Luisa.

Sam Faiers isn't a successful businesswoman, she's a reality TV star, there was no involvement in the business side of things on her behalf as far as I'm aware but correct me if I'm wrong... to my knowledge The Only Way Is Essex is run by a production company, not the people in the show...

She comes across insignificant against sam let alone a multinational corporations
http://www.minnies-boutique.co.uk/

[CaudleHalbard]

Luisa manages a cake shop doesn't she?

[Seraphim]

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.


Durh! :shocked: The CBB "IQ" test was just a joke. It wasn't a proper IQ test.
If Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test, she'd be in the category of having learning difficulties. If Dappy had scored 6 in an IQ test, he'd probably be in a coma.

Luisa's IQ will be considerably above average, judging by her performance in The Apprentice and CBB.

[Vanessa]

Now that him and Jim have settled their differences i'm warming to her again. I knew she'd be different without Linda.

[optimisticcynic]

Durh! :shocked: The CBB "IQ" test was just a joke. It wasn't a proper IQ test.
If Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test, she'd be in the category of having learning difficulties. If Dappy had scored 6 in an IQ test, he'd probably be in a coma.

Luisa's IQ will be considerably above average, judging by her performance in The Apprentice and CBB.

There are various ways of testing intelligence and although this wasn't a WAIS oe standardised, they probably compared Dappy and Luisa's results to a random poll. Luisa doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent, just savvy and Machiavelian.

As for her assumed intelligence -

Age: 25; Occupation: Retail Entrepreneur.[40] Zissman claimed to have a "brain like Einstein", yet got a C, D, and E at AS level.[41] Zissman broke down after thinking she bungled a pitch in the final, and was then fired by Lord Sugar. Zissman said that during the process she had "learnt to keep her mouth shut".[42] Zissman became embroiled in controversy when it emerged that she did not know how to properly use apostrophes, and appealed to Twitter for advice, ultimately calling her company "Bakers Toolkit".[43] She was educated at Northampton School for Girls.[44]

[Seraphim]

What im getting at is she is being labelled as a successful businesswoman why?
her business are worth £192

given the low standards that people are giving the label of 'successful businesswoman'' is sam faiers not a successful businesswoman ?

So you think that Alan Sugar's top guys looked into Luisa's businesses and gave them the seal of approval based on them being "worth £192"? I don't think so. What makes you think you know better than them?

You shouldn't pronounce on matters you don't have a lot of insight into, as it just makes you look a bit silly. The same as that person who thought Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test.

[optimisticcynic]

So you think that Alan Sugar's top guys looked into Luisa's businesses and gave them the seal of approval based on them being "worth £192"? I don't think so. What makes you think you know better than them?

You shouldn't pronounce on matters you don't have a lot of insight into, as it just makes you look a bit silly. The same as that person who thought Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test.

Seraphim, I am fully aware that an IQ of 60 would suggest a mild LD, however, my reference was in the context of the Big Brother clip, where the average score for the test was 60, Luisa only scored 60-odd and Dappy scored 6. This does not set her apart from Joe Bloggs and her exam results demonstrate the same.

[Seraphim]

There are various ways of testing intelligence and although this wasn't a WAIS oe standardised, they probably compared Dappy and Luisa's results to a random poll. Luisa doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent, just savvy and Machiavelian.

As for her assumed intelligence -

Age: 25; Occupation: Retail Entrepreneur.[40] Zissman claimed to have a "brain like Einstein", yet got a C, D, and E at AS level.[41] Zissman broke down after thinking she bungled a pitch in the final, and was then fired by Lord Sugar. Zissman said that during the process she had "learnt to keep her mouth shut".[42] Zissman became embroiled in controversy when it emerged that she did not know how to properly use apostrophes, and appealed to Twitter for advice, ultimately calling her company "Bakers Toolkit".[43] She was educated at Northampton School for Girls.[44]

BB's test was NOT an IQ test. It was not comparable to any IQ test. I used to administer IQ tests, so I should know. School exam results do not reflect IQ, business acumen or drive. Knowing how to punctuate is a pointless skill, and certainly not essential for a business person. You do not know what Machiavelian means. And you cannot punctuate either. Maybe you are just jealous.

Yawn. I'm off to bed.

[Josy]

The apprentice is a reality tv/entertainment show more than anything else though^^^

And Luisa's cupcake shop seem's to be doing good yeah but if she was as intelligent as she keeps telling everyone she is then she would realise she's not maximising income potential with her other businesses because she is basically confining her products from two or three separate companies to the one town/area, to get a better customer base and increase sales she will need to broaden her area.

[optimisticcynic]

BB's test was NOT an IQ test, and was not comparable to any IQ test. I used to administer IQ tests, so I should know. School exam results do not reflect IQ, business acumen or drive. Knowing how to punctuate is a pointless skill, and certainly not essential for a business person. You do not know what Machiavelian means. And you cannot punctuate either. Maybe you are just jealous.

Yawn. I'm off to bed.

Wow, you administered tests. That must make you very clever. IQ does involve language, understanding and all the components you claim are irrelevant and I too have undertaken IQ testing. Your comment about my understanding is child-like. What is the basis for your assumption that Luisa is a genius? Other than the fact that she says she is.

[optimisticcynic]

School exam results are a pretty good indicator of IQ, unless there is a limiting factor unaccounted for such as dyslexia, and at the point of A=Levels, where study is usually focused on topics people enjoy/are interested in, I would expect "Einstein" to get better grades than a C, D and E.

[Seraphim]

Wow, you administered tests. That must make you very clever. IQ does involve language, understanding and all the components you claim are irrelevant and I too have undertaken IQ testing. Your comment about my understanding is child-like. What is the basis for your assumption that Luisa is a genius? Other than the fact that she says she is.

I don't believe that you administered IQ tests. Goodnight.

[Seraphim]

Yeah okay, tell me how many of the world's greatest entrepreneurs got to the top by being pleasant and pandering to others. We're not even talking about a potential Bill Gates or Steve Jobs here, we're talking about a woman who runs a cupcake business and has used reality TV to further her career horizons. Being on the Apprentice gave her some initial exposure and CBB has helped promote her and her brand even further; how many small business owners have managed to do the same? The character of the company owner matters, yes, but not nearly as much as the actual business they are running or the products they are selling. People wear Coco Chanel and Hugo Boss products despite their extensive involvement with the Nazis because they like what the companies are selling; Luisa Zissman being a bit loud and argumentative on a Channel 5 TV program for a month is not going to matter in the slightest if people like what she's selling.

All your posts make great points. Thanks for the read.

[Jack_]

Can y'all get some avatars plz it's confusing

[Seraphim]

The apprentice is a reality tv/entertainment show more than anything else though^^^

And Luisa's cupcake shop seem's to be doing good yeah but if she was as intelligent as she keeps telling everyone she is then she would realise she's not maximising income potential with her other businesses because she is basically confining her products from two or three separate companies to the one town/area, to get a better customer base and increase sales she will need to broaden her area.

She has already done that. She was on The Apprentice to get funding for a UK-wide business. She has already secured the funding from another source and her new business is now operating. I imagine it'll take her a while to build it and make it profitable, but she's on the way.

[optimisticcynic]

Yeah okay, tell me how many of the world's greatest entrepreneurs got to the top by being pleasant and pandering to others. We're not even talking about a potential Bill Gates or Steve Jobs here, we're talking about a woman who runs a cupcake business and has used reality TV to further her career horizons. Being on the Apprentice gave her some initial exposure and CBB has helped promote her and her brand even further; how many small business owners have managed to do the same? The character of the company owner matters, yes, but not nearly as much as the actual business they are running or the products they are selling. People wear Coco Chanel and Hugo Boss products despite their extensive involvement with the Nazis because they like what the companies are selling; Luisa Zissman being a bit loud and argumentative on a Channel 5 TV program for a month is not going to matter in the slightest if people like what she's selling.

Fair point in most instances, Zee, but I'd guess that a reputation as a sex addict in the food industry is as appealing to customers as hearing your local icecream man is a chronic masturbator.

[Seraphim]

Luisa's only 25 and she's a single mum trying to bring up her little girl and give her the best life she can. Give her a break folks.

[optimisticcynic]

Luisa's only 25 and she's a single mum trying to bring up her little girl and give her the best life she can. Give her a break folks.

No need to bring her daughter into it, because that could easily be replied to with the whole argument about whether this image she portrays is one where her daughter has been considered. I understand she is making a living as are we all, but she has put herself out there, and not been particularly nice in the process, and thus some people have equally strong opinions about her. She prides herself on speaking her mind. Why shouldn't we?

[Arrow]

So you think that Alan Sugar's top guys looked into Luisa's businesses and gave them the seal of approval based on them being "worth £192"? I don't think so. What makes you think you know better than them?

You shouldn't pronounce on matters you don't have a lot of insight into, as it just makes you look a bit silly. The same as that person who thought Luisa had scored 60 in an IQ test.

"The Baker Shop in St Albans, and the website dixiescupcakery.co.uk, are both trading names of Boutique Trading Ltd, which lists Ms Zissman as both director and company secretary under her real name of Louisa Christina Zissman. A company records search shows no other businesses owned or run by the Apprentice finalist."

So, her two actual businesses are in some trouble as the current liabilities significantly exceed current assets + cash. It looks like one of those zombie companies sustained by cheap bank loans secured on the fixed Assets (property essentially).


take a read
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-apprentice-final-2013-doubts-cast-over-luisa-zissmans-business-claims-8714526.html

shes out there to make as much money on the z list circuit as she can

she has gone in there acted in this manner to try and make as much as an impact as she could in the hope that it will keep her 'celebrity' status going as long as she can maybe even get a job on loose woman

[Videostar]

The truth speaks the truth. :worship:

[Slevin]

I think she is great. She has entertained me, and she stands up for what she believes.. She doesn't always get it right, and is prepared to admit she's wrong when it's appropriate. She shows her intelligence in being able to understand different aspects of every argument, and in the creative way she has fun. She isn't spineless - she stood up to Dappy and told him when he made that sexist comment, and since then they've become friends. She is a bit full-on, but when she has teased people it was in a spirit of fun. She was influenced by Linda, as they all were, and she has admitted that. She isn't vindictive, in my opinion, and I'm not sure that she's more of a bully than anyone else - she hasn't really done much to deserve being called that: she nominated Jim and gave sound reasons, made up that jokey song about Ollie, and apologised while also explaining why she had done that, and how it had appeared to her (and many viewers agreed with her.) She squealed "It's the grim reaper" to Jim as a joke, etc. For her campaign speech, rather than slate someone, she nominated Lee for being a womaniser, albeit in a light-hearted way, and advised other women to stay away.

If I was her mother, I'd be very proud of her. I like others in the house too. There's simply no need to slate a young woman you don't know like this just because she's not your favourite to win.

P.S. Her cake shop is doing fine, and she doesn't need any investment. She went onto The Apprentice hoping to win funding for a 3rd business. Lord Alan Sugar had his top business advisers dig into Luisa's business affairs, check out her claims and look over her business plan for the new business (her 3rd) which she wanted to set up, and they didn't find anything wrong with it. It was a very close thing for winning the apprentice, but in the end, the other girl had bigger plans which would make a lot of money, and Lord Sugar always follows the money. Luisa has already got the funding for her new business from elsewhere, and it's already in operation. Her cake shop is still going strong too - one of the most recent reviews said that it was so popular that they'd had to queue to get served. That's not bad for a single mum in her mid 20s. Most others would be claiming benefit. I wonder what all the critics here had achieved by their mid-20s.
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Can y'all get some avatars plz it's confusing
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the hate is strong. **** i dont even like Jim but even i would put him up there as one of the best HM. no blinders.

[ConnieLingus]

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

And Dappy got 6 per cent. :dance:

At least she has a brain in her head. :joker:

[Ammi]

I think she is great. She has entertained me, and she stands up for what she believes.. She doesn't always get it right, and is prepared to admit she's wrong when it's appropriate. She shows her intelligence in being able to understand different aspects of every argument, and in the creative way she has fun. She isn't spineless - she stood up to Dappy and told him when he made that sexist comment, and since then they've become friends. She is a bit full-on, but when she has teased people it was in a spirit of fun. She was influenced by Linda, as they all were, and she has admitted that. She isn't vindictive, in my opinion, and I'm not sure that she's more of a bully than anyone else - she hasn't really done much to deserve being called that: she nominated Jim and gave sound reasons, made up that jokey song about Ollie, and apologised while also explaining why she had done that, and how it had appeared to her (and many viewers agreed with her.) She squealed "It's the grim reaper" to Jim as a joke, etc. For her campaign speech, rather than slate someone, she nominated Lee for being a womaniser, albeit in a light-hearted way, and advised other women to stay away.

If I was her mother, I'd be very proud of her. I like others in the house too. There's simply no need to slate a young woman you don't know like this just because she's not your favourite to win.
P.S. Her cake shop is doing fine, and she doesn't need any investment. She went onto The Apprentice hoping to win funding for a 3rd business. Lord Alan Sugar had his top business advisers dig into Luisa's business affairs, check out her claims and look over her business plan for the new business (her 3rd) which she wanted to set up, and they didn't find anything wrong with it. It was a very close thing for winning the apprentice, but in the end, the other girl had bigger plans which would make a lot of money, and Lord Sugar always follows the money. Luisa has already got the funding for her new business from elsewhere, and it's already in operation. Her cake shop is still going strong too - one of the most recent reviews said that it was so popular that they'd had to queue to get served. That's not bad for a single mum in her mid 20s. Most others would be claiming benefit. I wonder what all the critics here had achieved by their mid-20s.

..great post, I agree with you..although Luisa often 'speaks from the heart' in that she kind of plunges right in there without thinking and can be quite vocal, I don't see any spite or vindictiveness about her at all..what I particularly like about her is that when she has had conversations with people after arguments, she does seem to have a very reasoned view in hindsight...the thing her mum said about Jim being like her dad was interesting, wasn't it..?..

..I do think that she's probably learned much from this experience of being around people who are completely different and seeing things from their point of view as well...

[MrWong]

Luisa scored 60-odd in the IQ test, with the national average being 60. She is not some genius, despite her self-proclamation. She is BARELY above average.

That wasn't an IQ test though.

[Gusto Brunt]

The 'IQ test' was seriously flawed.

It didn't prove anything, except that Luisa knows where places on a map and a few other things.

That's just basic general knowledge. And she got a lot of the questions wrong.

I wasn't impressed AT ALL.

[Gusto Brunt]

And the fact she thought she had just taken an IQ test proves she's a bit thick because that wasn't one.:joker:

[MrWong]

And the fact she thought she had just taken an IQ test proves she's a bit thick because that wasn't one.:joker:

:conf:

She described it herself as more of a general knowledge test than an IQ test.

[sampvt]

Louisa is a loud and controversial figure and seems to be the product of a pushy mother. Her businesses are not doing well at all and her apprentice appearance and now CBB point at a career as a Z lister with some form of sexual inference attached. She is clever ok, clever at conning people into thinking she is actually clever when in reality, she is like a Joey Essex,s type, she is street wise and has the looks to forge a living by appearing on our screens to fill gaps in production schedules. She is the type that appears on Loose women, Celebrity juice and the occasional bit part on a reality program. In 3 yrs she will be back to backing cup cakes and barking at the moon.

[Lex]

shes a total hypocrite as we all know

she doesnt care what people think or feel....yet suddenly she doesnt like it when people criticize her

she tells it like it is , but cant take it back.....she pretends she can, but she cant

she says no man should talk to her like that , yet she pours verbal abuse at jim and dappy , shouts at an 82 yera old man and is also ageist towards him, then she preaches about equality? because she cant take it back? she screams sexism is a man dare say the same things back

she admits now that psycho linda has gone she may now be able to get on with jim a bit more....why couldnt she do that when jasmine and linda were in the house? because she goes with the crowd of man haters...spineless

she calls jim a sexist pig ...yet cant back it up when jim asks what have I done in here thats so sexist? she says oh you admitted you were sexist , jim replies......"yes when I admitted that you were crying and upset at the time and I said it to cheer you up and make you laugh, but you choose not to remember that":wavey:

jimbo rules every night, simply because hes fundamentally more sincere and more genuine. i also think depe down hes more truthful. louisa doesnt say it as it is. she is a one dimensional cartoon caricature. she even admitted her nominations she didnt really mean. yet she thought jims was nasty. yet she thought jim was playing to the cameras. he was he meant it. she was just playing up to linda and jasmine and the viewers who she thought wrongly would all hate jim , simply because they are mainly women. talk about steretyping women

louisa has spent far too much time in a small group of friends, probably phenomenally bitchy , vindictive spiteful selfish hurtful and nasty. she thinks everyone thinks like that and she gives in to the peer pressure of the bitching

the way she treated olly , who yes sounds as fake as a ten bob note at times, was mean and merciless. some thought it was funny? it was as funny as kicking a poodle in the face. pathetic

hopefully a few days with jimbo will at leats allow her to look at life differently and take more from this experience that cash and twitter followers.

Apart from the Ollie bit...I agree!

Ollie is just the most professional game player in the house, and though I don't suspect for one moment that there is a bad bone in his body [I could be wrong of course?] he is also this years "Professional" sensitive soul!...and therefore will have been chuffed to death that this years "Mouthy-sod" has fallen into his "compassionate-airtime-ploy"! [nothing wrong with playing to his best abilities on a gameshow though!]

Apart from that, Luisa is a cow yeah! :thumbs:

[rusticgal]

shes a total hypocrite as we all know

she doesnt care what people think or feel....yet suddenly she doesnt like it when people criticize her

she tells it like it is , but cant take it back.....she pretends she can, but she cant

she says no man should talk to her like that , yet she pours verbal abuse at jim and dappy , shouts at an 82 yera old man and is also ageist towards him, then she preaches about equality? because she cant take it back? she screams sexism is a man dare say the same things back

she admits now that psycho linda has gone she may now be able to get on with jim a bit more....why couldnt she do that when jasmine and linda were in the house? because she goes with the crowd of man haters...spineless

she calls jim a sexist pig ...yet cant back it up when jim asks what have I done in here thats so sexist? she says oh you admitted you were sexist , jim replies......"yes when I admitted that you were crying and upset at the time and I said it to cheer you up and make you laugh, but you choose not to remember that":wavey:

jimbo rules every night, simply because hes fundamentally more sincere and more genuine. i also think depe down hes more truthful. louisa doesnt say it as it is. she is a one dimensional cartoon caricature. she even admitted her nominations she didnt really mean. yet she thought jims was nasty. yet she thought jim was playing to the cameras. he was he meant it. she was just playing up to linda and jasmine and the viewers who she thought wrongly would all hate jim , simply because they are mainly women. talk about steretyping women

louisa has spent far too much time in a small group of friends, probably phenomenally bitchy , vindictive spiteful selfish hurtful and nasty. she thinks everyone thinks like that and she gives in to the peer pressure of the bitching

the way she treated olly , who yes sounds as fake as a ten bob note at times, was mean and merciless. some thought it was funny? it was as funny as kicking a poodle in the face. pathetic

hopefully a few days with jimbo will at leats allow her to look at life differently and take more from this experience that cash and twitter followers.


Totally....totAlly agree with every word. We'll constructed :wavey:

[kitten59]

the truth

thats laughable. the character and integirty of the company owner is the biggets and most important part of the investment in any company. I suggest you read up on the great investors and entrepreneurs

- Actually, you're reply is laughable. Sorry, WRONG.

[Beso]

True, but what a housemate!

[wendywillow]

the word bully has lost its meaning. and Ollie should thank Louisa for finally giving him some airtime with his new 'I gotta be me' schtick.

[Z]

Fair point in most instances, Zee, but I'd guess that a reputation as a sex addict in the food industry is as appealing to customers as hearing your local icecream man is a chronic masturbator.

Is liking sex really a bad thing? I was a bit shocked at the 5 people in one night revelation and I totally disagree with it in principle but I wouldn't not buy her products just because she has an active sex life, you know? Maybe that's just me, but I don't think many people would be put off buying food that they really like if they found out something a bit salacious about the owner of the company.

[Crimson Dynamo]

she demonstrates many psychopathic qualities and I am not joking.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the word bully has lost its meaning. and Ollie should thank Louisa for finally giving him some airtime with his new 'I gotta be me' schtick.

Yes, I remember fondly Gripper Stebson:shocked:

Now he really was a bully

[InOne]

Luisa's only 25 and she's a single mum trying to bring up her little girl and give her the best life she can. Give her a break folks.

One could say she's a modern day hero.

[Slevin]

Is liking sex really a bad thing? I was a bit shocked at the 5 people in one night revelation and I totally disagree with it in principle but I wouldn't not buy her products just because she has an active sex life, you know? Maybe that's just me, but I don't think many people would be put off buying food that they really like if they found out something a bit salacious about the owner of the company.
yea i wasnt expecting wild sex stories. personally thats a bit much in one night. cant say i would never bang 5 women in one night. they gotta be pretty fit for me to do that lol. if anyone wants to do that man or woman as long as their safe and its consensual its no skin off my back. more power to ya. not gonna go the slut, skank or ***** (mostly used wrong anyways) route like so many have on here.

[anne666]

OMG! She MUST be the devil incarnate then! :conf::shocked:

[Seraphim]

she demonstrates many psychopathic qualities and I am not joking.

No she does not. And I am not joking. You should not throw accusations like this around.

[Seraphim]

No need to bring her daughter into it, because that could easily be replied to with the whole argument about whether this image she portrays is one where her daughter has been considered.
She prides herself on speaking her mind. Why shouldn't we?

Well, if that is the best reply you can come up with, then presumably I was correct in what I said.

As regards her speaking about her sexuality on the television when she has a young daughter... I imagine that her view will be:

1. It is better to be truthful than to lie or be a hypocrite
2. A single person has a right to a sex life of whatever nature they choose
3. People will always criticise you, so be true to yourself, rather than them

She prides herself on speaking her mind. Why shouldn't we?

When Luisa speaks her mind, she makes valid points and is usually correct.

[the truth]

Well, if that is the best reply you can come up with, then presumably I was correct in what I said.

As regards her speaking about her sexuality on the television when she has a young daughter... I imagine that her view will be:

1. It is better to be truthful than to lie or be a hypocrite
2. A single person has a right to a sex life of whatever nature they choose
3. People will always criticise you, so be true to yourself, rather than them



When Luisa speaks her mind, she makes valid points and is usually correct.

she isnt being truthful she is being an exhibitionist and bringing embarassment and shame upon herself and her family. she is also displaying enormous male hate sexual discrimination throughout the show. which oculd potentially distory her kids mind against men.

[Arrow]

When Luisa speaks her mind, she makes valid points and is usually correct.


did you read the article i posted on luisa ?


or are you choosing to ignore facts because it removes the myth that she is a successful businesswoman ? one dissolved company and the others worth just 190 odd pounds


Sam is head and shoulders above luisa when it comes to succesful businesswoman

[Seraphim]

she isnt being truthful she is being an exhibitionist and bringing embarassment and shame upon herself and her family. she is also displaying enormous male hate sexual discrimination throughout the show. which oculd potentially distory her kids mind against men.

That's the way you see it, but you aren't Luisa. I can see it from Luisa's pespective. Yes, she's outrageous, but she hasn't actually done anything particularly shocking. She gave Jasmine a kiss, for a joke, and let Dappy stick his head up her jumper as a joke, showered with Dappy, etc. There's not actually a lot of harm in that: she's just having a carry-on, and it is clear that she likes Dappy.

To be honest, if I was her mother I'd be proud of her. She has raised the issue of female sexuality and freedom, and challenged some of the more prudish people in society to explore their attitudes. That is typical of her tendency to test boundaries, and I take my hat off to her for having the guts to do it. Her little girl probably won't know anything about it, since by the time she's older it'll be forgotten.

I don't see her displaying male hate sexual discimination myself... I don't see where you get that from. Can you explain?

[Seraphim]

did you read the article i posted on luisa ?


or are you choosing to ignore facts because it removes the myth that she is a successful businesswoman ? one dissolved company and the others worth just 190 odd pounds


Sam is head and shoulders above luisa when it comes to succesful businesswoman

No. I didn't see any article, but I don't see what your point is in bringing up the current status of Luisa's company. She has possibly dissolved one of her businesses in order to concentrate on the new one she has just set up. We've been coming though a difficult economic period and many, many small businesses have already folded. I cannot count the number which have been closed around here, and they were previously successful, long-standing businesses in a very affluent city.The fact that she is still trading is a big achievement, in my opinion. Many businesses go bankrupt or fold when times get tough.

The other businesses are not "worth 190 odd pounds". Luisa has just set up a new business, and generally when new businesses are started, they run at a loss for the first few years, because all the profits are re-invested.

What has Sam got to do with anything?

[Slevin]

OMG! She MUST be the devil incarnate then! :conf::shocked:
she sure is. shes the most evil person ever. she really puts all the worst people in all humanity to shame. none are on her level. she really is the devil. maybe so much more there is no word for it.:devil:

[Arrow]

No. I didn't see any article, but I don't see what your point is in bringing up the current status of Luisa's company. She has possibly dissolved one of her businesses in order to concentrate on the new one she has just set up. We've been coming though a difficult economic period and many, many small businesses have already folded. I cannot count the number which have been closed around here, because they were previously successful, long-standing businesses in a very affluent city.The fact that she is still trading is a big achievement, in my opinion. Many businesses go bankrupt or fold when times get tough.

The other businesses are not "worth 190 odd pounds". Luisa has just set up a new business, and generally when new businesses are started, they run at a loss for the first few years, because all the profits are re-invested.

What has Sam got to do with anything?

Sam has everything to do with this people are trying to make out that not only is luisa a serious businesswoman that she is also a successful in business


i suggest you look up the requirements for dissolving a company


At the time the article was written her company was worth less then £200 that is a fact

[optimisticcynic]

Is liking sex really a bad thing? I was a bit shocked at the 5 people in one night revelation and I totally disagree with it in principle but I wouldn't not buy her products just because she has an active sex life, you know? Maybe that's just me, but I don't think many people would be put off buying food that they really like if they found out something a bit salacious about the owner of the company.

I was thinking more from a mental image/hygiene perspective.

[abhorson]

In fairness, she has been for sex addiction therapy. Which suggests it has hurt previous relationships or she herself thinks it to be wrong.