The Greatest American Idol

[lostalex]

She is the first and best, What an amazing talent, she still speaks for me. She is still people like us!

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[Smithy]

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The only person who can sound better during a live performance than the actual studio recording

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[lostalex]

I love how she can go from America's Sweetheart one minute, but also be dark and sad and angry. She pulls it all off, because she's so genuine in everything she does.

She's not afraid to show many different sides.

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[Kate!]

She's great.

[Z]

It's almost a shame how right America got it on that very first series of American Idol because every winner since Kelly Clarkson has sort of paled in significance, I can't think of any American Idol winner who's been as internationally successful as her. What a voice!

[Kate!]

The original and definitely the best.

There have been some talented performers over the years, and the cream of the crop has not always won either, but Kelly is in a class of her own.

Favourite song by her is What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger.

[Marc]

Her and Carrie have done well amazing

[Kate!]

Taylor Hicks was a travesty victory - nice lad, but shouldn't have won.

[Headie]

I entered this thread expecting to see Fantasia or Candice Glover:idc:

[MeMyselfAndI]

It's almost a shame how right America got it on that very first series of American Idol because every winner since Kelly Clarkson has sort of paled in significance, I can't think of any American Idol winner who's been as internationally successful as her. What a voice!

Carrie Underwood is actually the most successful American Idol

[Z]

Carrie Underwood is actually the most successful American Idol

Not internationally she's not, she's very much an American artist for Americans, I couldn't name one of her songs. Kelly Clarkson's well known around the world.

[lostalex]

I entered this thread expecting to see Fantasia or Candice Glover:idc:

Really? I don't believe you. :joker:

[lostalex]

Carrie Underwood is actually the most successful American Idol

by what measure? album sales? #1 singles? awards?

[lostalex]

This is Kelly Clarkson performing 10 minutes before Beyonce lip-synched at Obama's inauguration and later used the excuse that it was "too cold" to sing live... wasn't too cold for Kelly though :)

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[Z]

She's such a star

[Z]

I just love that she delivers this stellar performance and then steps away from the microphone and is suddenly this little goofball, so funny :)

[Smithy]

The fact she sings like a goddess then has then turns out to be the most adorkable celeb of all time

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[Z]

She's actually hilarious :laugh2: I'm loling at both of those videos so much hahahahaha

[MeMyselfAndI]

Not internationally she's not, she's very much an American artist for Americans, I couldn't name one of her songs. Kelly Clarkson's well known around the world.

Carrie is well known internationally, just not in the UK, anyway thats not relevant to the fact that Carrie is the most successful American Idol alumini

by what measure? album sales? #1 singles? awards?

Going by album sales, tour sales & revenue, wealth, 6 grammy awards & having 12 US number one's, all in a shorter period

[Z]

She's a huge country star but country music is only really popular in the USA, as far as I'm aware?

[Shaun]

no one cares about carrie underwood

[Smithy]

Going by album sales, tour sales & revenue, wealth, 6 grammy awards & having 12 US number one's, all in a shorter period

Carrie Underwood

Album Sales: 12,472,000
Track Sales: 18,933,000
Radio Plays: 3,331,000
YouTube Plays: 137,804,154


Kelly Clarkson

Album Sales: 11,219,000
Track Sales: 19,526,000
Radio Plays: 5,197,000
YouTube Plays: 194,160,919

(those are US figure alone)

From June 2013, before Kelly released a Greatest Hits album and an xmas album which sales combines add to around 1.8 million, not including single sales from either record either

Kelly has over 100 #1's in the US :shrug: and 3 on the Hot 100 (whereas carrie has just one)

[MeMyselfAndI]

Carrie Underwood

Album Sales: 12,472,000
Track Sales: 18,933,000
Radio Plays: 3,331,000
YouTube Plays: 137,804,154


Kelly Clarkson

Album Sales: 11,219,000
Track Sales: 19,526,000
Radio Plays: 5,197,000
YouTube Plays: 194,160,919

From June 2013, before Kelly released a Greatest Hits album and an xmas album which sales combines add to around 1.8 million, not including single sales from either record either

Kelly has over 100 #1's in the US :shrug: and 3 on the Hot 100 (whereas carrie has just one)

You've said before the money is at the tours

Carrie underwood

$37,027,684 (Play On Tour)
$51,956,206 (Blown Away Tour)

Kelly clarkson

$13,785,602 (Addicted Tour)
$1,136,896 (My December Tour)
$2,646,708 (lAll I Ever Wanted Tour)
$5,581,714 (Stronger Tour)

speaks for itself..

[Smithy]

You've said before the money is at the tours

Carrie underwood

$37,027,684 (Play On Tour)
$51,956,206 (Blown Away Tour)

Kelly clarkson

$13,785,602 (Addicted Tour)
$1,136,896 (My December Tour)
$2,646,708 (lAll I Ever Wanted Tour)
$5,581,714 (Stronger Tour)

speaks for itself..

Blown Away tour had 114 dates and Play On 109

The Addicted Tour had 25 dates
My December 53 dates
All I Ever Wanted had 63 dates
Stronger Tour had 57 dates

not really sure what you can prove from that :conf2: (other than 90% of her tour dates being in the US, proving she is a very local artist)

and the info for kelly dates is only half there only 23 dates of 57 (for the stronger tour) reported their gross, so if you extrapolate the numbers it'd be around 14 million (if not more) for the whole tour :shrug:

[Black Dagger]

I love Kelly as a person and everything she has achieved, but her music is meh for me, bar Because Of You :love:

Most of the American Idol contestants I liked are flops though, so fair play to her <3.

[Mystic Mock]

She's a huge country star but country music is only really popular in the USA, as far as I'm aware?

This, I know that my hatred for Country Music might make me sound biased but Carrie Underwood is not as successful as Kelly Clarkson because away from the US, Country Music is quite unpopular so therefore Kelly will win that battle for that reason alone.

[lostalex]

This, I know that my hatred for Country Music might make me sound biased but Carrie Underwood is not as successful as Kelly Clarkson because away from the US, Country Music is quite unpopular so therefore Kelly will win that battle for that reason alone.

Yea, but still being a big fish in a small pond, is still being a big fish... like heavy metal in northern Europe. i hate death metal, but i respect that fact that northern Europe loves metal and some bands are HUGE over there.

Kelly is a big fish in a big pond though. Carrie is a big fish in a small pond.

[Z]

Yea, but still being a big fish in a small pond, is still being a big fish... like heavy metal in northern Europe. i hate death metal, but i respect that fact that northern Europe loves metal and some bands are HUGE over there.

Kelly is a big fish in a big pond though. Carrie is a big fish in a small pond.

Kelly Clarkson's a mid sized fish in a big pond; Carrie is a big fish in a small pond. Both are really successful and have achieved way more than anyone would have ever thought possible and I think have shaken off their talent show roots and been accepted as stars in their own right - just depends on whether you view global relevance or national relevance as being the bigger success - because although Kelly's popular around the world, she's not in the same league as the likes of Beyonce or Rihanna in terms of success so it's not like she's the biggest star going, but she's been going for over a decade with no signs of slowing down which is quite impressive. Carrie Underwood meanwhile is a huge star in a genre that may only be popular in the USA but just calling it popular is doing country music a disservice... it's huge.

[lostalex]

mid-sized fish, I like that. :joker:

I'd say she's a big fish talent, with a mid-sized fish celebrity.

That's what sets her apart, she isn't a huge CELEBRITY, but she is a huge TALENT, and i think that's why she is able to keep chugging along, without having to worry about being in the press all the time. She's not worried about always getting the most attention, she's just grateful to be able to keep making music and performing.

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[Z]

mid-sized fish, I like that. :joker:

I'd say she's a big fish talent, with a mid-sized fish celebrity.

That's what sets her apart, she isn't a huge CELEBRITY, but she is a huge TALENT, and i think that's why she is able to keep chugging along, without having to worry about being in the press all the time. She's not worried about always getting the most attention, she's just grateful to be able to keep making music and performing.

Yeah definitely. She's up there with the P!nks of this world, the talent and the vision is what determines career longevity, not who she's dating or what she's wearing to an awards ceremony. There are two types of popstar - those who are in it for the fame and those that are in it for the artistry and she clearly falls into the latter category.

[lostalex]

Yeah definitely. She's up there with the P!nks of this world, the talent and the vision is what determines career longevity, not who she's dating or what she's wearing to an awards ceremony. There are two types of popstar - those who are in it for the fame and those that are in it for the artistry and she clearly falls into the latter category.

well put.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Carrie is constantly touring & more people want to see her live rather than Kelly

[lostalex]

Carrie is constantly touring & more people want to see her live rather than Kelly

probably just FOX news watching mothers and fathers who's daughters really wanna see Miley Cyrus, but they think taking them to see Carrie Underwood is the good Christian alternative... ugh.

[Z]

Carrie is constantly touring & more people want to see her live rather than Kelly

And that's great; that just means she's milking her fanbase for what it's worth because she's generally got a fixed geographical area and target audience to constantly tour around; Kelly's globally popular so she has to spread her resources much thinner than Carrie does. I don't think there's much merit in comparing them anyway, they're totally different kinds of artists who have different fanbases and different styles.

[lostalex]

after watching American Horror Story: Coven finale, it made me think about what my afterlife heaven would be... (besides the obvious abercrombie models to ****** )... it would be Kelly Clarkson (sorry misty and stevie) and Chicken Mcnuggets i think. (with honey mustard dipping sauce)

[lostalex]

brave song to do in manchester... <3

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[Smithy]

I was there for that :amazed:

[lostalex]

I was there for that :amazed:

i wish we were friends, we could go to kelly shows together :)

I'd love to see her live, but i'd never go alone.

[Smithy]

I'm like that too, i had to drag another friend to her show in london too

she did When It Don't Come Easy there, cause it was her backing singers last night on tour with her and they were starting a career separate to her, they all started tearing up at the end :love:

[lostalex]

i'm so jealous. I bet you were here...

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[Smithy]

we were front row, thats probably my head in front of the camera :hehe:

[lostalex]

I'd love to hear Kelly cover a Sheryl Crow song. Do you like Sheryl Crow?