Why is everyone bitter that he won?

[Arrow]

Lets be real here the worse his has done in 60 years is have a few fights with an ex wife and call an attention seeker a shirt lifter


yet press and some of the public are outraged and seem bitter that this might relaunch a talented mans career

wasn't linda hated for being bitter ?

[Roy Mars III]

true fans of Big Brother are happy, its only the people who don't enjoy watching the show who are upset

[Pete.]

He may be entertaining but the true winner was Luisa and she did not even come in the top 3. Outrage.

[Kazanne]

I'm not bitter,I'm delighted,only people that are bitter are the sore losers,Well done to Jim,he seems to have turned public opinion around (well most of them) good for him,I wish him luck.

[Slevin]

not a Jim fan but i thought he was gonna win like many of us did way before the finale. i rather he won than Same or Ollie that night. of course i would have loved if my favorite won but there was no chance in hell. im not bitter. i was just whatever at that point. like Jim or Luisa or not i thought they were the top 2 HM.

[Z]

Jim or Luisa would have been the only acceptable result IMO so I'm glad Jim won. Two of the housemates in the final did nothing to deserve their place (Ollie and Sam), one of them had squandered all public sympathy through poor decision making (Casey) and the other one was an okay housemate but wasn't really all that deserving of it (Dappy). Jim and Luisa entertained and provoked discussion throughout.

[waterhog]

so did dappy - for being s genuinely nice guy as his reputation goes against that. i think luisa lost her way in the last few days.

[Cherie]

How dare they be bitter :fist:

[Patricia4]

Im a Jim fan so I was very pleased he won.

[Cherie]

Im a Jim fan so I was very pleased he won.

Quite right

[Amy Jade]

true fans of Big Brother are happy, its only the people who don't enjoy watching the show who are upset
:facepalm:

[alex_front2]

Not bitter but it was rigged for jim to win by pal Desmond lets be candid.
Jim was last to see family in clock watch task
Jim was last to give farewell speech
Jim was therapist
Jim was part of trio interviewed by Liz for journo task
Jim was the leader in democracy task
Jim was head talent judge

[Rob!]

I'm not. Best winner in ages in my view.

[sassysocks]

Lets be real here the worse his has done in 60 years is have a few fights with an ex wife and call an attention seeker a shirt lifter


yet press and some of the public are outraged and seem bitter that this might relaunch a talented mans career

wasn't linda hated for being bitter ?

Linda wasn't bitter, she was just honest about being sick of the sound of the bloke. I wonder how most on here would react is someone tried to ridicule their dead husband/wife/partner. People have no empathy and prefer to admire a blatant ignorant, sexist pig who won a tacky tv show.

[sassysocks]

so did dappy - for being s genuinely nice guy as his reputation goes against that. i think luisa lost her way in the last few days.

A genuinely nice guy who thinks women should behave differently to men sexually and who thinks that women who sleep around like men are dirty. He has slept around on the mother of his children many times apparently, but he doesn't think that makes him dirty - he is a man.

That is blatant, ignorant sexism, which is no better than racism or homophobia. From a black man who would no doubt abhore racism it makes a double whammy - a sexist and a hypocrite. What a nice guy - yeah right.

[joeysteele]

I don't think everyone is bitter at him winning,largely there were positive responses to his win on TV, re-Matthew Wright show and on This Morning.

I would guess the only people bitter are those who didn't want him to win, for the vast majority who watched the show and voted clearly most of theml are very happy.

[Seraphim]

I'm not bitter because Jim won, but a note of bitterness has crept into my tone recently in some of the threads on forum because of the hypocrisy and sexism of so many of those who are supporting Jim and Dappy.

A few examples:

Dappy was dared to suck Luisa's nipples and suck his head under Luisa's top. Even if they did indulge in nipple-sucking, Luisa is the only one who has been criticised for it. No-one has once mentioned Dappy's involvement.

Luisa and Jim both admitted going to sex parties, but the outrage in response to those revelations was reserved for Luisa. No-one batted an eyelid about Jim doing it.

After starting an argument by criticising Luisa, Dappy followed her around the house, haranguing and hectoring her, and wouldn't leave her alone in spite of her making abundantly clear she didn't want to prolong the discussion. Dappy has a criminal record for harrassing a woman. He obviously hasn't changed. There was no outrage over Dappy's behaviour, but the row has been held up on this board as an example of Luisa "bullying" and being obnoxious.

Jim is a married man who was clearly being lecherous towards a beautiful young woman, building an emotional intimacy with her over time and using it to initiate physical contact, make increasingly bold references to her body, sexual organs or his lust for her, sometimes in the guise of a joke. Jim was a friend of Lee, and could easily have had a word with Lee, as Luisa did on several occasions. Instead, when all the men tried to speak to Lee together, Jim walked out of the room saying that it was none of their business. Jim exited that house to a wall of cheers and was hailed like a returning hero. Humph.

[sassysocks]

He may be entertaining but the true winner was Luisa and she did not even come in the top 3. Outrage.

Simple - she is female. We all know it. Bearing in mind most of the voters appear to be women, I despair of the stupidity of many women - they give the rest of us a bad name.

[flamingGalah!]

Not bitter but it was rigged for jim to win by pal Desmond lets be candid.
Jim was last to see family in clock watch task
Jim was last to give farewell speech
Jim was therapist
Jim was part of trio interviewed by Liz for journo task
Jim was the leader in democracy task
Jim was head talent judge

Are you joking?!? Channel 5 did all they could to STOP Jim from winning!! It was very clear from the edits that they wanted Ollie or Sam to win... They were doing a hatchet job on Jim just like they did on Arron, but thankfully, just like with Arron, the brilliant voting public ensured his victory!! :dance:

[flamingGalah!]

Simple - she is female. We all know it. Bearing in mind most of the voters appear to be women, I despair of the stupidity of many women - they give the rest of us a bad name.

So no women have ever won Big Brother?? :sleep:

Many so called feminists are the truly sexist ones...

[sassysocks]

So no women have ever won Big Brother?? :sleep:

Many so called feminists are the truly sexist ones...

Very few and bearing in mind most voters are women, and most women get voted out early - speaks volumes. This year, like most years, the women got all the boos and the guys got all the cheers - it was so predictable. As I have said previously, idiots come in all shapes, sizes and sexes.

If there is any truth to your claim that some feminists are sexist - it is because sexist men have made them that way - cause and effect, hardly surprising really.

[Kazanne]

Linda wasn't bitter, she was just honest about being sick of the sound of the bloke. I wonder how most on here would react is someone tried to ridicule their dead husband/wife/partner. People have no empathy and prefer to admire a blatant ignorant, sexist pig who won a tacky tv show.

Well they seem to be best of friends now so seems it's you holding the grudge,it's a waste of energy,let it go

[sassysocks]

Well they seem to be best of friends now so seems it's you holding the grudge,it's a waste of energy,let it go

I don't consider I am holidng a grudge, don't like Jim, his behaviour in the house was sadly nothing less than I expected from him - I am more concerned that people condone his behaviour towards women by voting for him. What does that say about society and the seriousness with which they take blatant sexism?

I find it quite worrying. Like racism, sexism should be treated with the seriousness it deserves bearing it mind it has a negative effect on 50% of the world's population.

If we are going to treat the show purely as fun and entertainment, then no comments from contestants whether they be racist, sexist or homophobic should be punished with a warning. If we take racism and homophobia seriously enough to give warnings - the same should be done for sexism. Double standards on the show should not be condoned in any way shape of form. Any disagreement with that is simply sexism.

Think about it - apparently BB do not want to risk offending people from racist minority groups or gay people, but seemingly don't give two hoots about offending female viewers. How can any woman not object to that?

[Patricia4]

Im pleased Jim won it I backed him from the start.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Jim, one of the best, and most deserving, CBB winners of all time. So pleased he won.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm not bitter because Jim won, but a note of bitterness has crept into my tone recently in some of the threads on forum because of the hypocrisy and sexism of so many of those who are supporting Jim and Dappy.

A few examples:

Dappy was dared to suck Luisa's nipples and suck his head under Luisa's top. Even if they did indulge in nipple-sucking, Luisa is the only one who has been criticised for it. No-one has once mentioned Dappy's involvement.

Luisa and Jim both admitted going to sex parties, but the outrage in response to those revelations was reserved for Luisa. No-one batted an eyelid about Jim doing it.

After starting an argument by criticising Luisa, Dappy followed her around the house, haranguing and hectoring her, and wouldn't leave her alone in spite of her making abundantly clear she didn't want to prolong the discussion. Dappy has a criminal record for harrassing a woman. He obviously hasn't changed. There was no outrage over Dappy's behaviour, but the row has been held up on this board as an example of Luisa "bullying" and being obnoxious.

Jim is a married man who was clearly being lecherous towards a beautiful young woman, building an emotional intimacy with her over time and using it to initiate physical contact, make increasingly bold references to her body, sexual organs or his lust for her, sometimes in the guise of a joke. Jim was a friend of Lee, and could easily have had a word with Lee, as Luisa did on several occasions. Instead, when all the men tried to speak to Lee together, Jim walked out of the room saying that it was none of their business. Jim exited that house to a wall of cheers and was hailed like a returning hero. Humph.

Totally agree.

[the truth]

I'm not bitter because Jim won, but a note of bitterness has crept into my tone recently in some of the threads on forum because of the hypocrisy and sexism of so many of those who are supporting Jim and Dappy.

A few examples:

Dappy was dared to suck Luisa's nipples and suck his head under Luisa's top. Even if they did indulge in nipple-sucking, Luisa is the only one who has been criticised for it. No-one has once mentioned Dappy's involvement.

Luisa and Jim both admitted going to sex parties, but the outrage in response to those revelations was reserved for Luisa. No-one batted an eyelid about Jim doing it.

After starting an argument by criticising Luisa, Dappy followed her around the house, haranguing and hectoring her, and wouldn't leave her alone in spite of her making abundantly clear she didn't want to prolong the discussion. Dappy has a criminal record for harrassing a woman. He obviously hasn't changed. There was no outrage over Dappy's behaviour, but the row has been held up on this board as an example of Luisa "bullying" and being obnoxious.

Jim is a married man who was clearly being lecherous towards a beautiful young woman, building an emotional intimacy with her over time and using it to initiate physical contact, make increasingly bold references to her body, sexual organs or his lust for her, sometimes in the guise of a joke. Jim was a friend of Lee, and could easily have had a word with Lee, as Luisa did on several occasions. Instead, when all the men tried to speak to Lee together, Jim walked out of the room saying that it was none of their business. Jim exited that house to a wall of cheers and was hailed like a returning hero. Humph.

a very biased pro female male bashing one eyed thread
frankly everything youve said about jim here is pure lies
as for dappy, people have criticized him galore so again thats untrue
luisa brought his mother into the argument which set him off and he brought her daughter into it which set her off.
the amount of criticism in this argument was about equally measured out, but he was a bigger person as he apologised for his part, she didnt.
as for sex parties. loads of people mentioned jimbo said he went to sex parties so its wasnt ignored. luisa showed off about it more, she showed off about shagging 5 men in a night and was looking for cheap tacky attention to make easy money , so she cant then claim poor me if shes doing it all for atttention and monetary reward

yorue playing the poor me poor women self pity card like linda nolan and we have all seen through it now. youre behind the times here about 20 years....its time for mens rights now and if women want to be treated equally they deserve to be spoken to the same way as men i.e. to be called sexist dirty pigs if thats how they behave , the way they sai the same things about jimbo who did nothing to merit the appelation (criticism) throughout

[daniel-lewis-1985]

a very biased pro female male bashing one eyed thread
frankly everything youve said about jim here is pure lies
as for dappy, people have criticized him galore so again thats untrue
luisa brought his mother into the argument which set him off and he brought her daughter into it which set her off.
the amount of criticism in this argument was about equally measured out, but he was a bigger person as he apologised for his part, she didnt.
as for sex parties. loads of people mentioned jimbo said he went to sex parties so its wasnt ignored. luisa showed off about it more, she showed off about shagging 5 men in a night and was looking for cheap tacky attention to make easy money , so she cant then claim poor me if shes doing it all for atttention and monetary reward

yorue playing the poor me poor women self pity card like linda nolan and we have all seen through it now. youre behind the times here about 20 years....its time for mens rights now and if women want to be treated equally they deserve to be spoken to the same way as men i.e. to be called sexist dirty pigs if thats how they behave , the way they sai the same things about jimbo who did nothing to merit the appelation (criticism) throughout

Dappy nominated Luisa about 2 weeks after that fight for the same reason though after they had seemed to become good friends.

Oh and she did apologise.

[the truth]

Dappy nominated Luisa about 2 weeks after that fight for the same reason though after they had seemed to become good friends.

Oh and she did apologise.

still trolling for infractions?

he apologised. she didnt. possibly back tracked a few days or weeks later. he was the bigger person as you chooose to ignore due to bias. you also know why he nominated, so when you say "for some reason" youre yet again being disingenuous and bashing the hetro yet again. hmmmm a misandrist pattern developing?

[Pincho Paxton]

Good old Jim!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

still trolling for infractions?

he apologised. she didnt. possibly back tracked a few days or weeks later. he was the bigger person as you chooose to ignore due to bias. you also know why he nominated, so when you say "for some reason" youre yet again being disingenuous and bashing the hetro yet again. hmmmm a misandrist pattern developing?

Don't need to troll you achieve infractions on your own merit.

Apparently if people have an opinion different to you they are trolls are sexists or bias or disingenious or hetrophobic. All this from that one post and you wonder why you keep getting banned?

PS: I said for the same reason not "for some reason" learn to read posts properly before attacking me with all this abuse over and over.

:wavey:

[the truth]

Don't need to troll you achieve infractions on your own merit.

Apparently if people have an opinion different to you they are trolls are sexists or bias or disingenious or hetrophobic. All this from that one post and you wonder why you keep getting banned?

PS: I said for the same reason not "for some reason" learn to read posts properly before attacking me with all this abuse over and over.

:wavey:

sounds like a confession.

[Kizzy]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ty7zS2QckdU/TggZCXOBaLI/AAAAAAAABOs/5q5D8lxAq6I/s1600/tumblr_lh6wo8G7mH1qd42rao1_500.gif

[alex_front2]

Feminists are bitter as deep down they know most voters who placed Jim as winner were women but many try to pretend it was men getting revenge. Hence the likes of Luisa talking about "Jim must have employed a call centre". Give it up 'sistas'

[Jords]

Bet it will eat at Linda for the rest of her days :laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

sounds like a confession.

No sounds like you've been called out on your BS and can only retaliate with a 4 word dig.

[Cherie]

Bet it will eat at Linda for the rest of her days :laugh:

I don't think so! Jim said on his This Morning interview that they had a drink together at the wrap party and he was going to help her with her breast cancer charity so I think it is just some people on line that are making a big deal out of Jim winning, anyone would think we would achieve world peace if Luisa won :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

well done to jim for winning, I was weary of him in bb, because every one is a player in life as well as bb, but its votes that count not opinions.

if you're not doing, your being done!

[joeysteele]

While I have to admit and even admire Luisa,despite always being in danger of being evicted every week,she did turn it around and in the end made the final on merit.
However she is not the rightful winner, she only came 4th, the winner was to come from one of the 3 male housemates.

Jim had in fact been the public's choice since week one,always at the top of the voting to be 'saved' in every eviction battle.
He is actually one of the real runaway winners of any series.

This thread is titled why is everyone bitter that he won, however as far as I can see,everyone is NOT bitter that he won just likely some of the people who never wanted him to but who were clearly out of step with the majority of the viewers who were voting as to their opinion of Jim.

It is everyone's right to like or dislike who they please but Jim is in all fact the runaway winner of CBB and was in place to do so from the very first week's evicrion battle too.

I may be wrong here but I never saw Luisa apologise to Dappy at all, he went over to her and said sorry and made up but she,to my knowledge, while accepting that never returned the sorry verbally.
She did address it later in the series and backtrack as someone said above.

Anyway, Luisa didn't win and was never going to, Jim did and was always going to.
That is another fact.
Also from all I have read and seen of him since I find he is a very popular winner except with those who never liked him or wanted him to win anyway.

he held all the publics support who were voting for him from the start and I still say,in my opinion, for near most of the time he behaved really well in the house, he did not rise too often to the attacks and slurs from Linda and others.
He entertained and for all those reasons is the worthy winner of this series and in fact he is likely one of the most worthy winners ever on a CBB series.

[lostalex]

He's just an angry old man. reminds me of my dad when i was a teenager. Maybe he's not a horrible person, but it sure is easy to dislike him!

[Seraphim]

still trolling for infractions?

he apologised. she didnt. possibly back tracked a few days or weeks later. he was the bigger person as you chooose to ignore due to bias. you also know why he nominated, so when you say "for some reason" youre yet again being disingenuous and bashing the hetro yet again. hmmmm a misandrist pattern developing?

Luisa had no reason to apologise to Dappy. She was right. :)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Luisa had no reason to apologise to Dappy. She was right. :)

I agree she shouldn't of had to apologise but she actually DID. I don't know why people have selective memory.

Dappy was also called to the diary room and warned yet that was not aired and no one discusses it on the forum, its all about how Luisa talked about his mother and they forget the whole load of abusive things he said that led up to that well deserved comment from her.

Why did he apologise if he knew he was in the right and then keep nominating her? lol it was all to save face.

[Seraphim]

a very biased pro female male bashing one eyed thread
frankly everything youve said about jim here is pure lies
as for dappy, people have criticized him galore so again thats untrue
luisa brought his mother into the argument which set him off and he brought her daughter into it which set her off.
the amount of criticism in this argument was about equally measured out, but he was a bigger person as he apologised for his part, she didnt.
as for sex parties. loads of people mentioned jimbo said he went to sex parties so its wasnt ignored. luisa showed off about it more, she showed off about shagging 5 men in a night and was looking for cheap tacky attention to make easy money , so she cant then claim poor me if shes doing it all for atttention and monetary reward

yorue playing the poor me poor women self pity card like linda nolan and we have all seen through it now. youre behind the times here about 20 years....its time for mens rights now and if women want to be treated equally they deserve to be spoken to the same way as men i.e. to be called sexist dirty pigs if thats how they behave , the way they sai the same things about jimbo who did nothing to merit the appelation (criticism) throughout

We only saw the edited clips, but the argument was clearly caused by Dappy repeatedly saying that if a man slept with five women, he was cool, and if a woman slept with five men she was a ******

Can you link me to the threads where loads of people discussed Jim going to sex parties please, because I didn't see them.

I have never in my life called a man "a dirty sexist pig", and I never would. My posts have been about sexism in society.

I am not playing a "poor me" card. I don't need to. I believe what I say, and am proud of being who I am. My gender has never affected any of my choices in life, not the choices of any of my friends or siblings of either sex. You are the person who is living in the past, my friend. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder the size of a pyramid.

[Cherie]

I have stated facts in my post, and you have stated untruths in yours.

Dappy started the argument with Luisa. The 5 men in a night concept came from him, not Luisa. Luisa never at any point agreed that she had slept with five men in one evening. Luisa didn't need to apologise as she had done nothing wrong.

Can you link me to the threads where loads of people discussed Jim going to sex parties please.

I have never in my life called a man a dirty sexist pig, and I never would. My posts have been about sexism in society.

I am not playing a "poor me" card. I don't need to. I believe what I say, and am proud of being who I am. My gender has never affected any of my choices in life, not the choices of any of my friends or siblings of either sex. You are the person who is living in the dark ages, my friend. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder the size of a pyramid.

Luisa told him she had, that is where the whole argument stemmed from.

[Seraphim]

Luisa told him she had, that is where the whole argument stemmed from.

Here are two quotes from the BB website:

The pair took offence at the 26-year-old rapper – real name Costadinos Contostavlos – earlier today when he suggested that females shouldn’t have multiple sex partners.

“I think you shouldn’t say a man can sleep with five women and he’s cool and a woman can sleep with five men and she’s a *****,” said former Apprentice contestant Luisa.

“That’s true though,” Dappy replied.......

Later the argument continued:

“I said if a woman sleeps with five men in one night, what does it make her? It’s disgusting innit?” Dappy reminded her.

“Why do you think it’s disgusting?” pondered Luisa.

“Can you tell me how many men you’ve slept with in one night?” asked Dappy.

“It’s irrelevant to the conversation,” insisted Luisa...

[Cherie]

Pretty sure there was a conversation in the bath tub between Luisa, Dappy and Jasmine about it, and Luisa whispered how many she had slept with to Dappy which is where the argument stemmed from originally.

[Suze]

Jim had/still has a big fanbase on this site if the polls were anything to go by, so can't see where the everyone is bitter Jim won comes from? Of course there will be a few who were unhappy about his win, but that would be as far as it goes. Jim seems to be quite a popular winner on here. I thought he gave a lot to this CBB and deserved his win for that reason.

[Seraphim]

Jim had/still has a big fanbase on this site if the polls were anything to go by, so can't see where the everyone is bitter Jim won comes from? Of course there will be a few who were unhappy about his win, but that would be as far as it goes. Jim seems to be quite a popular winner on here. I thought he gave a lot to this CBB and deserved his win for that reason.

I agree absolutely. I've always said that based on their input to the show, Jim and Luisa deserved to tie for top, followed by Dappy. I'd have loved to see Luisa in the top three, given her input to the show, but I think she did very well given that she didn't have a pre-existing fanbase.

[Seraphim]

Pretty sure there was a conversation in the bath tub between Luisa, Dappy and Jasmine about it, and Luisa whispered how many she had slept with to Dappy which is where the argument stemmed from originally.

Even if that was the case, it wasn't what started an argument. The argument started because Dappy repeatedly said that if a man slept with five women, he was cool, and if a woman slept with five men she was a *****. Both Jasmine and Luisa tried to point out the inherent double standards in that view, but Dappy wouldn't agree. I'd have argued with him too. Luisa was quite correct that the number of people she had slept with was irrelevant to the discussion anyway.

[Z]

That cannot be the case, otherwise Dappy wouldn't have been demanding to know later.

Luisa whispered it to Jasmine; Dappy was also in the bath tub at the time though. He was shouting "five" without Luisa once confirming that number during the argument so I figure he must have also been told and he knew fine well how many people she'd slept with in one night and wanted her to admit it in front of anyone to try and humiliate her.

[Seraphim]

Luisa whispered it to Jasmine; Dappy was also in the bath tub at the time though. He was shouting "five" without Luisa once confirming that number during the argument so I figure he must have also been told and he knew fine well how many people she'd slept with in one night and wanted her to admit it in front of anyone to try and humiliate her.

Well, who knows . It is irrelevant anyway, since it was an argument about double standards. When remonstrating with Dappy, Jasmine said that any person having that number of partners in one night was gross, and Luisa didn't disagree with her.

[Arrow]

Luisa had no reason to apologise to Dappy. She was right. :)

I think you will find that dappy was right

[the truth]

No sounds like you've been called out on your BS and can only retaliate with a 4 word dig.

temper temer ill be reporting that filthy language , youre badly rattled.
you cant seem to accept jimbo is the rightful winner? i wonde why lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

temper temer ill be reporting that filthy language , youre badly rattled.
you cant seem to accept jimbo is the rightful winner? i wonde why lol

I allways said Jim and Luisa should have been top 2.

They were the most deserving imo.

[the truth]

I allways said Jim and Luisa should have been top 2.

They were the most deserving imo.

You cant find it in you to say jimbo deserved it and you also condoned the fact they wrongly libelled him a sexist pig in there, even though there was no evidence to support it. that means you are being 100% hypocritical with your double standards.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You cant find it in you to say jimbo deserved it and you also condoned the fact they wrongly libelled him a sexist pig in there, even though there was no evidence to support it. that means you are being 100% hypocritical with your double standards.

Erm my last post was I allways said Jim and Luisa should have been top 2

They were the most deserving imo.

LOL I said exactly that :joker:

[Seraphim]

Erm my last post was I allways said Jim and Luisa should have been top 2

They were the most deserving imo.

LOL I said exactly that :joker:

:laugh:

[the truth]

Erm my last post was I allways said Jim and Luisa should have been top 2

They were the most deserving imo.

LOL I said exactly that :joker:

No you didnt, that is a lie.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No you didnt, that is a lie.

Its there in black and white lol.

Heres a screen grab :)

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[the truth]

Its there in black and white lol.

Heres a screen grab :)

2649

you wanted luisa to win and you supported her and linda discrimination against jim.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

you wanted luisa to win and you supported her and linda discrimination against jim.

Choke on this.

ps-Rmiv6Dow

[the truth]

Choke on this.

ps-Rmiv6Dow

what a very nasty thing to say to someone? I thought you were going to ask me out? tut tut

[Josy]

Give a rest you 2

[MrWong]

yorue playing the poor me poor women self pity card like linda nolan and we have all seen through it now. youre behind the times here about 20 years....its time for mens rights now and if women want to be treated equally they deserve to be spoken to the same way as men i.e. to be called sexist dirty pigs if thats how they behave , the way they sai the same things about jimbo who did nothing to merit the appelation (criticism) throughout

You play it in every thread.


:umm2: You're joking right? Men have always had rights.

Women couldn't vote till the 1920's, you had to be over 30 though. It wasn't until 1928 that all women were given the right to vote.

It took a few more years for them to be allowed jobs such as accounting and the legal profession. Women couldn't inherit property until the the mid 1920's.

It wasn't until the mid 1950's that women civil servants and teachers would receive pay equal to men and it took nearly 20 more years until the introduction of the equal pay act.

In the 1970's working women could only get a mortgage if they had the signature of a male guarantor.

The most shocking thing I came across was that it wasn't until the 1990's that rape in marriage was made a criminal offense.

[the truth]

You play it in every thread.


:umm2: You're joking right? Men have always had rights.

Women couldn't vote till the 1920's, you had to be over 30 though. It wasn't until 1928 that all women were given the right to vote.

It took a few more years for them to be allowed jobs such as accounting and the legal profession. Women couldn't inherit property until the the mid 1920's.

It wasn't until the mid 1950's that women civil servants and teachers would receive pay equal to men and it took nearly 20 more years until the introduction of the equal pay act.

In the 1970's working women could only get a mortgage if they had the signature of a male guarantor.

The most shocking thing I came across was that it wasn't until the 1990's that rape in marriage was made a criminal offense.

working class men had no right to vote either 100 years ago? why do you ignore that?
65 million working class POOR MEN died in world war 2....fighting wars for the rich....the majority of other MEN died of TB down the mines or the slate quarries, earning a pittance of pay to feed their families....yes werent they all horrible sexist men....didnt they die for britain and down the pits because they were all so mean and selfish and women haters?
NO ...HELL NO
I supposed you and feminists think all those men who gave up their seats on the escape boats as the titanic sunk to women and children and drowned instead in freezing waters, werent chivalrpous or brave, they were patronising women , the sexist din0osaurs....so lets urinate on their memories and their legacies, lets desicrate their graves too...all bastewards the lot of them

the perverted rewriting of history by feminazis is a dangerous destructive propoganda of lies and revisionism

THE ONLY WAR IS BETWEEN THE RICH AND POOR. there is nor never has been a battle of the sexes and sexism is a complete and utter lie.

are people oppressed? in poor nations? erm yes. are the disabled, the sick, the poor , the needy, different ethicities, different religions /......yes
the over simplification of brainwashing our next generation that all men of previous generations were woman hating selfish nasty bigots is a complete and utter disgrace....it is sefl defeating drivel and it actually destroys society for everyone
ps a man fought for women to get the vote.,the suffragettes used terrorism, lloyd george used his genius....he also was the first politician in the world to tax kings and landowners who owned the UK and by defaults owned the voters.
he also set in place the welfare state, national insurance and laid foundations for the NHS

back in those days we had no health service for men or women

society has evolved we life longer, we understand more, now we have more choice more ability to travel and experience loads of dffferent things. its simply evolution and advancement. its nothing to do with men V women. that is a false war created and stoked up by rich people selling their media outlets

colaboration is the key to our future

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You play it in every thread.


:umm2: You're joking right? Men have always had rights.

Women couldn't vote till the 1920's, you had to be over 30 though. It wasn't until 1928 that all women were given the right to vote.

It took a few more years for them to be allowed jobs such as accounting and the legal profession. Women couldn't inherit property until the the mid 1920's.

It wasn't until the mid 1950's that women civil servants and teachers would receive pay equal to men and it took nearly 20 more years until the introduction of the equal pay act.

In the 1970's working women could only get a mortgage if they had the signature of a male guarantor.

The most shocking thing I came across was that it wasn't until the 1990's that rape in marriage was made a criminal offense.

Finally someone who posts sense.

[Gusto Brunt]

Everyone? I thought 'everyone' was over the moon Jim won.

[MachoPoodle]

So no women have ever won Big Brother?? :sleep:

Many so called feminists are the truly sexist ones...

Your ignorance in this matter is showing. Read up a bit on internalized misogyny which much like internalized racism is actually a real issue.

[flamingGalah!]

Your ignorance in this matter is showing. Read up a bit on internalized misogyny which much like internalized racism is actually a real issue.

Sorry no but YOU are the ignorant one :xyxwave:

You seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder regarding these matters, try to look at things in a less blinkered way...

[the truth]

Your ignorance in this matter is showing. Read up a bit on internalized misogyny which much like internalized racism is actually a real issue.

what spectacular ignorance. you need to read up on internalized misandry , male hate is internalized racism against men and a very real issue that needs to be addressed

[daniel-lewis-1985]

what spectacular ignorance. you need to read up on internalized misandry , male hate is internalized racism against men and a very real issue that needs to be addressed

Just a suggestion but maybe you should read up on Internalized sexism as it sums up your views to a T. This is exactly how your posts come across.

"Internalized sexism may be conscious, in which men or women actively resent other men or women, or unconscious, in which men or women who consciously hold egalitarian views may still unconsciously regard themselves as weak or unworthy compared to men or women.

Internalized sexism is common in many traditional cultures, in which men and women who are deeply invested in that culture seek actively to prevent other men and women from stepping out of the roles assigned by them in that culture, yet see their own behaviour in doing so as virtuous, as opposed to oppressive".

[the truth]

Just a suggestion but maybe you should read up on Internalized sexism as it sums up your views to a T. This is exactly how your posts come across.

"Internalized sexism may be conscious, in which men or women actively resent other men or women, or unconscious, in which men or women who consciously hold egalitarian views may still unconsciously regard themselves as weak or unworthy compared to men or women.

Internalized sexism is common in many traditional cultures, in which men and women who are deeply invested in that culture seek actively to prevent other men and women from stepping out of the roles assigned by them in that culture, yet see their own behaviour in doing so as virtuous, as opposed to oppressive".

wrong again it sums up your views on hetro men to a tee. sad.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

wrong again it sums up your views on hetro men to a tee. sad.

How is it wrong?

That statement is 100% the meaning of Internalized sexism. FACT.

I made no suggestion of heterosexual men in that post, I simply say men and women.

[the truth]

How is it wrong?

That statement is 100% the meaning of Internalized sexism. FACT.

I made no suggestion of heterosexual men in that post, I simply say men and women.

your internalized sexism is pouring out with each of your bitter words. its sad to be honest.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

your internalized sexism is pouring out with each of your bitter words. its sad to be honest.

I post facts, you post bigoted false accusations.

I post in detail responses, you post little digs.

Now that's sad.

[the truth]

I post facts, you post bigoted false accusations.

I post in detail responses, you post little digs.

Now that's sad.

you are the only one who posted bigoted false allegations. you also supported and fully endorsed the bigotry and false allegations made in the house against jimbo. total hypocrisy.

[Heaven = Winner]

Because Liz didn't win. That's why everyone's bitter tbh.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

you are the only one who posted bigoted false allegations. you also supported and fully endorsed the bigotry and false allegations made in the house against jimbo. total hypocrisy.

So calling me a heterophobe isn't a false accusation? :joker:

I cant take you seriously, you have to be joking just out of boredom. I don't believe anyone could be so stubborn and delusional in real life. Total wind up merchant.

BORED of this samey samey **** every post now go troll someone else with your little friend...Oh wait you cant because hes banned like you should be. Enjoy touching yourself over "Jimbo".

:wavey: