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Ammi
18-02-2014, 07:14 AM
..I stole this from another site but it's a really interesting video plus I think it's quite relevant to the discussion about the neutral gender parenting because to me anyway, it shows that tolerance, understanding and lack of prejudice is something that we teach our children and has nothing to do with how we would dress them etc and why I'm quite dubious about what those parents are doing, even though I'm sure that their intentions are good...

..anyway, it's quite a long vid but really worth watching...


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Raph
18-02-2014, 07:27 AM
That was adorable and definitely worth the 15 minutes. Thanks for sharing it, Ammi.

Ammi
18-02-2014, 07:33 AM
That was adorable and definitely worth the 15 minutes. Thanks for sharing it, Ammi.

..thank you for watching it Raph, it is a bit of a long watch but I think totally worth it...

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 09:12 AM
that made me laugh and it just shows you how times change

Z
18-02-2014, 10:20 AM
It's cute :)

joe199998293
18-02-2014, 10:58 AM
At least we know a lot of the next generation kids aren't going to be homophobic like we have now. And I thought the video was cute, seen it a few times.

arista
18-02-2014, 11:40 AM
Ammi
its a Fix


I want to see that kids that Hate it


It Edited Fake
as it not showing all the kids that Hate Gays

arista
18-02-2014, 11:42 AM
At least we know a lot of the next generation kids aren't going to be homophobic like we have now. And I thought the video was cute, seen it a few times.


Wrong all the Hate gays
kids
are edited out

Nedusa
18-02-2014, 11:45 AM
Kids are pretty much a blank slate and would not "hate Gays" as you say. Our prejudices and Social conditioning makes children hate and fear "Gays". This is learned behaviour not natural.

Like young children are not Racist they are also not born Homophobic either....!!!

Ammi
18-02-2014, 11:49 AM
Ammi
its a Fix


I want to see that kids that Hate it


It Edited Fake
as it not showing all the kids that Hate Gays

Kids are pretty much a blank slate and would not "hate Gays" as you say. Our prejudices and Social conditioning makes children hate and fear "Gays". This is learned behaviour not natural.

Like young children are not Racist they are also not born Homophobic either....!!!

..if they do 'hate' though Arista, I wouldn't say that they would even understand what they are being hateful about...as Nedusa says, prejudice and hate is lack of understanding and is either learned or because they haven't been educated enough to understand and I don't necessarily mean at school because there is only so much influence that can have ...

Conzors
18-02-2014, 12:27 PM
I really liked this.
:D
x

Jessica.
18-02-2014, 01:14 PM
Wrong all the Hate gays
kids
are edited out

Nobody is edited out, they make react videos to everything and some of the kids have very wrong opinions and they are left in. :joker:

Gstar
18-02-2014, 02:12 PM
arista you're so annoying sometimes.

& that Asian/Filipino girl is gonna be so pretty when she's older

arista
18-02-2014, 02:20 PM
arista you're so annoying sometimes.

& that Asian/Filipino girl is gonna be so pretty when she's older



yes
I am One of a Kind

arista
18-02-2014, 02:21 PM
Nobody is edited out, they make react videos to everything and some of the kids have very wrong opinions and they are left in. :joker:



How the feck do you know
were you there in the Editing room?

Headie
18-02-2014, 02:25 PM
How the feck do you know
were you there in the Editing room?

And how do you know they were edited out? Were YOU there in the editing room?

arista
18-02-2014, 02:28 PM
And how do you know they were edited out? Were YOU there in the editing room?


No but I assume it

Niamh.
18-02-2014, 02:30 PM
No but I assume it

why would you assume that? I think unless kids are living in a house of vocal homophobes who taught them being gay is wrong, then naturally i think kids wouldn't be even slightly bothered and would be very accepting

Headie
18-02-2014, 02:30 PM
No but I assume it

And Jessica assumed that nobody was edited out.

So no one knows the true answer.

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 02:31 PM
No but I assume it

It was 13 kids from california, we dont know their background or social status. I would imagine it would be easy to go into the hood and get 13 kids who all laugh and say its wrong or get 13 kids from christian families who will say that it is evil.

Unless we know the motivation of the maker then i would say its safe to perhaps assume that there were edited to be positive,.

arista
18-02-2014, 02:35 PM
why would you assume that? I think unless kids are living in a house of vocal homophobes who taught them being gay is wrong, then naturally i think kids wouldn't be even slightly bothered and would be very accepting



I do not trust the makers
its all too positive


Life Is Not Like That.

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 02:35 PM
http://thefinebros.com/

this is the people behind it

Jesus.
18-02-2014, 02:42 PM
I do not trust the makers
its all too positive


Life Is Not Like That.

How exactly would you describe life, Forrest?

http://im20.gulfup.com/hWnE2.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 02:44 PM
As for the proposals

Bloody show offs, yuk

Samm
18-02-2014, 02:50 PM
As for the proposals

Bloody show offs, yuk

How is it showing off :umm2:

Ammi
18-02-2014, 02:52 PM
I do not trust the makers
its all too positive


Life Is Not Like That.

..children are like that, Arista..they don't judge unless they're taught to...

Glenn.
18-02-2014, 02:53 PM
Completely unfounded assumptions Arista.

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 02:53 PM
How is it showing off :umm2:

The over the top public displays for proposals, dancing, bands..awful attention seeking

Tom4784
18-02-2014, 02:54 PM
Prejudice is something that's learned rather than something that you're born with. It's the previous generations that poison the new ones, we can only hope that in time things get better with each passing generation.

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 02:56 PM
It reminds me of another "reaction" series of videos......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zayL9pT-Nc

Ammi
18-02-2014, 02:56 PM
The over the top public displays for proposals, dancing, bands..awful attention seeking

..there are all kinds of dramatic proposals, some people just want to make the occasion something really spectacular and for a vid to show the children, they've just chosen some of the more unusual ones...

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 02:58 PM
..there are all kinds of dramatic proposals, some people just want to make the occasion something really spectacular and for a vid to show the children, they've just chosen some of the more unusual ones...

I dont think I have ever met a kid who was looking forward to watching a video of their parents doing anything. :joker:

Ammi
18-02-2014, 03:02 PM
I dont think I have ever met a kid who was looking forward to watching a video of their parents doing anything. :joker:


..ahh ok...I have, whether it be the children at school or my own, I've found that they really like to see their parents 'humanised' and not just mum and dad...I think probably when they get to be early teenagers, they sometimes get a bit embarrassed though...

arista
18-02-2014, 03:24 PM
..children are like that, Arista..they don't judge unless they're taught to...


Yes in America
many kids are Taught
Gays are Evil.

Ammi
18-02-2014, 05:40 PM
Yes in America
many kids are Taught
Gays are Evil.

..it's not specific to America, Arista..

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2014, 05:43 PM
..it's not specific to America, Arista..

yes like Africa and Russia to name 2

Ammi
18-02-2014, 05:49 PM
yes like Africa and Russia to name 2


..yeah, just to name two countries...

arista
18-02-2014, 05:53 PM
..it's not specific to America, Arista..


Of Course
but the video is from America
And they corrupt so much truth of what the public see
I have worked out there

Jarrod
18-02-2014, 06:19 PM
Of Course
but the video is from America
And they corrupt so much truth of what the public see

For once, can't you just see that this video could actually be genuine and people aren't actually affected by it?

Glenn.
18-02-2014, 06:20 PM
Maybe Arista hates the gays

arista
18-02-2014, 06:35 PM
Maybe Arista hates the gays


No I Do Not

I just want the Total Picture
not half of it

arista
18-02-2014, 06:37 PM
For once, can't you just see that this video could actually be genuine and people aren't actually affected by it?


It is genuine
but thats not the full edit


I hate how America
hides its haters

Jarrod
18-02-2014, 06:39 PM
Maybe Arista hates the gays

http://media.tumblr.com/d4483d274a62043d0b44ed85a5a0cdcc/tumblr_inline_mjynvy8yNa1qz4rgp.gif

Brother Leon
18-02-2014, 06:52 PM
When I was 3-5 years old I didn't know or care what being gay even was :laugh:

Im sure a lot of them have bigger worries like ther fruit ninja top score :)

Niall
18-02-2014, 08:20 PM
That's a very cute video. It's also heartening to see that there's only slight confusion from the younger kids, and not negativity, and even that one kid who was negative seemed to have (rather sadly) picked it up from somewhere else.

Rob!
27-02-2014, 03:40 AM
That's a very cute video. It's also heartening to see that there's only slight confusion from the younger kids, and not negativity, and even that one kid who was negative seemed to have (rather sadly) picked it up from somewhere else.

That's the sad thing - at that age, you don't hate social issues but your parents do. I've watched a lot of the Kids React videos (there's also Teens, Youtubers and Elders react - it's a great series, soon to be a TV programme apparently :dance: ) and that particular kid is actually quite articulate and intelligent. Hopefully he'll grow out of thinking being gay is wrong.

lostalex
27-02-2014, 05:39 AM
Why are you saying they edited out the kids that "hate gays"?? There were 2 kids in that video who were being negative about gays and gay marriage. Did you even watch it?

Kizzy
27-02-2014, 07:29 AM
Before the arista bashing commences he has a valid point, depending on where and how you are raised culturally and sociologically it will have had an impact on how kids react, that's the definition of socialisation.
Before that happens then yes everything will be accepted if it's seen as a cultural norm, incest... ritual animal slaughter... anything.
( they are just two examples of norms from other cultures, I'm not attempting to draw any comparisons)

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:12 PM
who gives a sh*t about this trivial nonsense?

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:13 PM
who gives a sh*t about this trivial nonsense?

says the guy who joined a big brother forum.............

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:16 PM
says the guy who joined a big brother forum.............

yea who prefers to discuss things more important than this...i.e. welsh nhs death rates, people dying of blood clots.....and yes even fun stuff, this is neither important or fun

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:18 PM
yea who prefers to discuss things more important than this...i.e. welsh nhs death rates, people dying of blood clots.....and yes even fun stuff, this is neither important or fun

so don't post in the thread if it doesn't interest you, it does interest other people on this forum

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:19 PM
so don't post in the thread if it doesn't interest you, it does interest other people on this forum

ill post where i like thanks

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:21 PM
ill post where i like thanks

So you'll waste your time posting in a thread you find trivial and unimportant to say you find it trivial and unimportant ....................how trivial :umm2:

AnnieK
27-02-2014, 04:22 PM
So you'll waste your time posting in a thread you find trivial and unimportant to say you find it trivial and unimportant ....................how trivial :umm2:

:laugh:

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:27 PM
So you'll waste your time posting in a thread you find trivial and unimportant to say you find it trivial and unimportant ....................how trivial :umm2:

yea it had to be said though because you lot waste weeks of your lives posting on the minutae of gay rights , when there are infinitely more serious problems to be discussed. I suggest you forget this trivial topic and spend time focusing on more important stuff. clearly you will be offended by that piece of genuine advice so I will now leave this trivial thread having made my feleings perfectly clear.

Samm
27-02-2014, 04:29 PM
truth plz leave the forum and shut the door on your way out, if you don't care about it why post

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:29 PM
truth plz leave the forum and shut the door on your way out, if you don't care about it why post

read what I said I care that people waste so much time on this nonsense.

Samm
27-02-2014, 04:31 PM
it's not nonsense the Video is trying to show how gay marriage is a good thing and I am supporting it

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:36 PM
yea it had to be said though because you lot waste weeks of your lives posting on the minutae of gay rights , when there are infinitely more serious problems to be discussed. I suggest you forget this trivial topic and spend time focusing on more important stuff. clearly you will be offended by that piece of genuine advice so I will now leave this trivial thread having made my feleings perfectly clear.

If I truly believed you thought that way I would argue with you about it, but I get the feeling you don't ;)

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:52 PM
If I truly believed you thought that way I would argue with you about it, but I get the feeling you don't ;)

do I believe the issue of tens of thousands of people dying from abuse or neglect in nhs hospitals is nmore important than endless discussions about gay rights in the UK when gay people already have all the rights they need, then yes you bets believe I mean it

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:53 PM
do I believe the issue of tens of thousands of people dying from abuse or neglect in nhs hospitals is nmore important than endless discussions about gay rights in the UK when gay people already have all the rights they need, then yes you bets believe I mean it

Ok :hehe:

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:54 PM
Ok :hehe:

ok what?

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:54 PM
ok what?

Ok Sir?

AnnieK
27-02-2014, 04:56 PM
It's admirable you feel that strongly truth but you can't force what you feel is important on to others and we can't talk about the same things all the time. I agree with your views on the NHS and don't get me started at the moment on residential care BUT gay rights are important to a lot of people too.

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:58 PM
Ok Sir?

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit:nono:

Crimson Dynamo
27-02-2014, 04:58 PM
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit:nono:

No, Mrs Browns Boys is below that

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 04:59 PM
No, Mrs Browns Boys is below that

Very true

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:59 PM
It's admirable you feel that strongly truth but you can't force what you feel is important on to others and we can't talk about the same things all the time. I agree with your views on the NHS and don't get me started at the moment on residential care BUT gay rights are important to a lot of people too.

they get a disproportionate amount of airtime here and probably in the news too....meanwhile tens of thousands of people suffer disgusting DEATHS and they passing doesnt even get a mention. our priorities in this country and on this site are way way way way way way way way WAY out of whack

the truth
27-02-2014, 04:59 PM
No, Mrs Browns Boys is below that

trivial comments about important matters, sad

Niamh.
27-02-2014, 05:00 PM
trivial comments about important matters, sad

Important matters like which wit is lowest? :umm2:

Crimson Dynamo
27-02-2014, 05:02 PM
trivial comments about important matters, sad

Kids reacting to gay marriage?

:conf:

Glenn.
27-02-2014, 06:16 PM
If it's that unimportant to you truth, why are you even posting in this thread? :suspect:

Black Dagger
27-02-2014, 06:24 PM
People who argue for the sake of arguing are pathetic, sort your life out imo.

Tom4784
27-02-2014, 07:11 PM
Gay people do not have the same rights as straight people, so no, they don't 'have all the rights they need.'

Just more homophobia from The Truth.

the truth
27-02-2014, 07:29 PM
Gay people do not have the same rights as straight people, so no, they don't 'have all the rights they need.'

Just more homophobia from The Truth.

yes they do. youre being a bigot:nono:

Tom4784
27-02-2014, 07:34 PM
yes they do. youre being a bigot:nono:

Yes, I'M the bigot in this situation :bored:.

I love your posts, every one of them is a bigger joke than the last.

Glenn.
27-02-2014, 07:43 PM
yes they do. youre being a bigot:nono:

Is this real life?

the truth
28-02-2014, 01:20 AM
Yes, I'M the bigot in this situation :bored:.

I love your posts, every one of them is a bigger joke than the last.

yes you are. youre the one name calling other posters not me.
youve made yourself the biggest with your labelling and false accusations

Glenn.
28-02-2014, 02:55 AM
Please just stop truth. You're making yourself look ridiculous :hehe:

daniel-lewis-1985
28-02-2014, 05:25 PM
Oh god TheTruth this is actually embarrassing to read lol. Only you could turn such a positive thread into such a car crash.

Gays have all the rights they need? hahahaha.

Im sorry I didn't know you were dishing those rights out or were in any position to tell anyone what rights they can or cannot have.

the truth
01-03-2014, 07:20 AM
Oh god TheTruth this is actually embarrassing to read lol. Only you could turn such a positive thread into such a car crash.

Gays have all the rights they need? hahahaha.

Im sorry I didn't know you were dishing those rights out or were in any position to tell anyone what rights they can or cannot have.

gay people have all the same rights as hetrosexual people in the Uk , fact , move on

but disabled people do not , neither do the elderly. in fact disabled access to buildings is still pathetic a lot of the time. yet abuse of the elderly and disabled issues get drowned out by feminist and gay rights issues. shameful.
then we have the nhs , now that disaster is the single biggest crisis in the Uk
what a sorry immoral mess it has become.

lostalex
01-03-2014, 09:03 AM
gay people have all the same rights as hetrosexual people in the Uk , fact , move on

but disabled people do not , neither do the elderly. in fact disabled access to buildings is still pathetic a lot of the time. yet abuse of the elderly and disabled issues get drowned out by feminist and gay rights issues. shameful.
then we have the nhs , now that disaster is the single biggest crisis in the Uk
what a sorry immoral mess it has become.

drowned out by whom? you make it sound like women and gay people are to be blamed for the fact that disabled people don't get enuf attention.. wtf.

How the **** are people speaking about gay rights and women's rights to blame for the treatment of disabled people????

Kizzy
01-03-2014, 09:38 AM
Instead of goading moderators and ruining the thread arguing the toss, why not just remove truths posts so the topic can be discussed properly?
These kids are giving very truthful responses until a certain age, then I think they're saying what they think the makers want to hear...

daniel-lewis-1985
01-03-2014, 01:55 PM
gay people have all the same rights as hetrosexual people in the Uk , fact , move on

but disabled people do not , neither do the elderly. in fact disabled access to buildings is still pathetic a lot of the time. yet abuse of the elderly and disabled issues get drowned out by feminist and gay rights issues. shameful.
then we have the nhs , now that disaster is the single biggest crisis in the Uk
what a sorry immoral mess it has become.

FGS why don't you give examples when spewing out all these comments heres a FACT for you: Gay marriage is still not legal in England until the end of this month and in Northern Ireland it will remain illegal for the foreseeable future.

Its like you are blaming the gay community for apparently not letting the elderly or the NHS get the airtime and column pages needed to raise awareness when if you turn on the tv or look in the paper its full of the nhs and the elderly pretty much all the time.

They are the UK's biggest talking points even though the government are failing both. This thread is actually about gay marriage and you said you were not interested in this topic so you may aswell move on if you are going to rant about disabled people, gay people can be disabled aswell btw so don't pigeon hole everyone.

What actual rights do elderly or the disabled not have btw?

These children are spot on with not being prejudice and hopefully bitterness of people like you in the world will not taint that when they grow up because the next generation have such potential to change this countries beliefs and attitudes in such a positive way.