South Wales : The Dog ate my Baby's head

[arista]

['The dog ate my baby's head!': Horrific screams
of mother after her 6 day old baby
girl is mauled to death by family's
pet at their home in south Wales
Sharon John, 42, wept to her neighbours
after her six-day-old girl - named locally
as Eliza-Mae Martha Mullane - was found
dead next to family pet
The dog seized from the property
was an Alaskan Malamut
Dyfed Powys Police are investigating
the death in Pontyberem
Alaskan Malamutes were originally
bred as sled dogs for work in the Arctic
The dog, similar to a husky,
is not a banned breed]

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shocking and sad

[HD]

oh my god

[Jake.]

another family too trusting of their pet, such a sad loss.

When will people learn that dogs, like any animals, can turn?

[Benjamin]

I'm sure this is old news, I recognise the childs name and the story?

[Kazanne]

This baby was 6 days old,she had spent 3 of them in intensive care,I heard they had seized the dog pending a post mortem,surely you would not leave a vunerable baby alone for one second let alone with a dog ,or am I being inreasonable?

[LaLaLand]

This baby was 6 days old,she had spent 3 of them in intensive care,I heard they had seized the dog pending a post mortem,surely you would not leave a vunerable baby alone for one second let alone with a dog ,or am I being inreasonable?

EXACTLY! I don't blame the dog for one moment though, it's just sheer irresponsibility.

[arista]

I'm sure this is old news, I recognise the childs name and the story?


No


They are Tomorrows papers

[Gstar]

this is horrible. my niece is two weeks old tomorrow and I wouldn't even let a goldfish near her

[Nedusa]

Utterly avoidable .... The adults in this case should be charged with causing death by dangerous dog(s)...!!!!

[Ramsay]

Ridiculous parenting. How could anyone leave a 6 day old baby on its own? let alone with a ****ing dog?

[Nedusa]

If you knowingly, willingly and stupidly allow large dogs access to babies and young children and leave them unattended then if the child/baby is killed then there should be a charge of causing death by dangerous dog and it should carry a min of 7 years in jail ...

This sort of tragedy is so avoidable ....!!!!!

[Z]

Brutal :/

[Vicky.]

The stream of idiotic parenting never ends it seems...poor girl :(

[joeysteele]

This baby was 6 days old,she had spent 3 of them in intensive care,I heard they had seized the dog pending a post mortem,surely you would not leave a vunerable baby alone for one second let alone with a dog ,or am I being inreasonable?

Not unreasonable in any shape or form Kazanne, you are totally spot on.

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

[Mystic Mock]

another family too trusting of their pet, such a sad loss.

When will people learn that dogs, like any animals, can turn?

Tbf parents should be allowed to have pets without them killing their child, it's just that these parents was irresponsible by leaving them on their own.

[Kazanne]

Not unreasonable in any shape or form Kazanne, you are totally spot on.

Thanks Joey,I just cannot understand how she could have been left like that,and its horrific what happened but do the press really have to print headlines like the dog ate her head!!! it annoys me ,the dog bit her head apparently (not ate it) she may have startled the dog,a sad outcome for the baby and the dog ,her parents must take some responsibility.

[Jake.]

Tbf parents should be allowed to have pets without them killing their child, it's just that these parents was irresponsible by leaving them on their own.

Sorry but any parent trusting their animal with a baby of 6 days is an idiot, I didn't say that parents shouldn't have pets though

[Ninastar]

when will people ****ing learn not to leave babies alone with ANY animals. even cats can kill babies. they sleep on their bodies for warmth and sometimes babies suffocate. how can such dumb ****ing idiots have kids? it's actually depressing

[joeysteele]

Thanks Joey,I just cannot understand how she could have been left like that,and its horrific what happened but do the press really have to print headlines like the dog ate her head!!! it annoys me ,the dog bit her head apparently (not ate it) she may have startled the dog,a sad outcome for the baby and the dog ,her parents must take some responsibility.

They have to of course, especially one of this size,however size doesn't matter.
Dogs can turn in a moment,if startled or when being pestered,even a dog sleeping then woken suddenly by a cry can make it snap.
To have the dog anywhere near where this child was is sheer neglect in my view.

I have a dog, he has never gone for anyone and is great around children,I however would never leave him unattended with any child,in fact I wouldn't leave him around any stranger to him either.
You just never know what may trigger them to attack for some reason.
Better to be safe than sorry,no matter how docile anyone may think their dog is.

[Kazanne]

They have to of course, especially one of this size,however size doesn't matter.
Dogs can turn in a moment,if startled or when being pestered,even a dog sleeping then woken suddenly by a cry can make it snap.
To have the dog anywhere near where this child was is sheer neglect in my view.

I have a dog, he has never gone for anyone and is great around children,I however would never leave him unattended with any child,in fact I wouldn't leave him around any stranger to him either.
You just never know what may trigger them to attack for some reason.
Better to be safe than sorry,no matter how docile anyone may think their dog is.

Spot on Joey I have two dogs and children ,I have a king Charles Cavalier and a Pommie cross,both as docile as anything,my kids play with them all the time,but never while they are alone ,as you said best to be safe than sorry,I certainly wouldnt leave a tiny newborn as ,as someone has said even cats can kill newborns.

[lostalex]

am i the only one that immediately thought "the dingo ate my baby"?

[user104658]

Leaving them alone is almost irrelevant: a dog can kill a child in seconds whether you're there or not. There was a news story recently, about a dog entering a room while the mother was right next to her daughter at her bed, and the dog still managed to kill the child. They are strong animals with strong jaws - once they bite down even a large adult might be unable to stop them. Or they could kill before an adult even has time to run across a room.

Dogs are safe pets because they are pack animals and because they recognise that they are further down the pecking order than the humans in the house and because the humans have safe predictable ways of interactive with them. Babies and toddlers are new to them, and they are inherently unpredictable in their actions. they might hug a dog - they might yank on its tail, or scream in its face. They make them nervous, and a nervous dog (ANY nervous dog) is a dangerous dog. My friends mum was badly bitten (chunk out of her arm) by her gentle, playful, never-hurt-a-fly Labrador that she'd had for 7 years because his little cousin had wound the dog up to breaking point. It was very sorry afterwards, but in that second, it still happened, and if it had been a child's neck it would have been another news story.

Dogs and small children don't mix. Period. Most of the time they'll probably make it though those early years just fine and be best of friends, yes. When a child is old enough to interact with a dog properly, having one as a pet is a wonderful experience. But, the RISK with little babies and toddlers is just too grave. A dog is not your friend, your confidant or your child. it is an animal with very sharp teeth. People humanize them and forget this, they believe that the dog loves them and cares for them... in the way that a person does.

If you're having a baby, the dog has to go. It's the only way to be "safe".

[Kazanne]

I've been reading this morning that it's not actually confimed it was the dog,although it's looks like it will be,wonder why they are not sure?

[Nedusa]

Leaving them alone is almost irrelevant: a dog can kill a child in seconds whether you're there or not. There was a news story recently, about a dog entering a room while the mother was right next to her daughter at her bed, and the dog still managed to kill the child. They are strong animals with strong jaws - once they bite down even a large adult might be unable to stop them. Or they could kill before an adult even has time to run across a room.

Dogs are safe pets because they are pack animals and because they recognise that they are further down the pecking order than the humans in the house and because the humans have safe predictable ways of interactive with them. Babies and toddlers are new to them, and they are inherently unpredictable in their actions. they might hug a dog - they might yank on its tail, or scream in its face. They make them nervous, and a nervous dog (ANY nervous dog) is a dangerous dog. My friends mum was badly bitten (chunk out of her arm) by her gentle, playful, never-hurt-a-fly Labrador that she'd had for 7 years because his little cousin had wound the dog up to breaking point. It was very sorry afterwards, but in that second, it still happened, and if it had been a child's neck it would have been another news story.

Dogs and small children don't mix. Period. Most of the time they'll probably make it though those early years just fine and be best of friends, yes. When a child is old enough to interact with a dog properly, having one as a pet is a wonderful experience. But, the RISK with little babies and toddlers is just too grave. A dog is not your friend, your confidant or your child. it is an animal with very sharp teeth. People humanize them and forget this, they believe that the dog loves them and cares for them... in the way that a person does.

If you're having a baby, the dog has to go. It's the only way to be "safe".

Excellent Post....!!!!

Says it all. ... Animals and small children/Babies don't mix .. Period !!

[arista]

I've been reading this morning that it's not actually confimed it was the dog,although it's looks like it will be,wonder why they are not sure?



Really
I thought it was the Dog that attacked the baby
and sadly killed the baby.

[T*]

Am I the only one that's thinking....
Well, Bad owners not Bad Dog?
I'm not going to be offensive, but they probably abused this dog and made it angry.
Alaskan Malamuts are supposed to be caring and protective dogs, not baby eaters.

It's a weird case and now they're wondering if it was even the dog that did it...

Very tragic story. :sad:

[Nedusa]

I think the point that is lost on most people who are animal lovers is that irrespective of how nice the dog is or how loving or docile or protective.......at the end of the day it is still an animal that is unpredictable and subject to unexpected behaviour.

As other posters have said no one knows what "mood" the animal could be in or if another person or animal has wound it up. Or the child who gets attacked may have spent days,weeks possibly months winding the animal up by shouting or squeezing it too hard or a hundred other things.

Fact is no one knows and as a result the animal in question could react unpredictably and sadly this sometimes results in violence against young children/babies.

It's not really the dogs fault it's an animal ............

So NEVER EVER leave animals unattended with small children/babies ever not even for a minute as you have no control over the animals actions...

I would go even as far as saying the Govt should advise ALL parents with small children/babies to seriously consider NOT having pets until they are at least big enough to fend off/withstand any animal attack.....!!!!

[Kazanne]

Really
I thought it was the Dog that attacked the baby
and sadly killed the baby.

That's what I've been reading Arista,it probably was the dog,but they still have it and are waiting on a post mortem,that just seems strange.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There are millions of families in the UK with dogs and babies and nothing happens. This story just illustrates how little grasp of numbers people have.

[AnnieK]

There are millions of families in the UK with dogs and babies and nothing happens. This story just illustrates how little grasp of numbers people have.

Agree with this....

[Nedusa]

There are millions of families in the UK with dogs and babies and nothing happens. This story just illustrates how little grasp of numbers people have.

I think it's more to do with the grasp of a dogs jaw around a baby's head than the grasp of numbers.........:huh::huh:

[Tom4784]

Stupid parents leaving a days old baby alone. Dogs can be quite protective of babies and children but you have to be a moron to leave both alone right at the very beginning.

[arista]

['Losing her has cast a shadow over
all of us': Parents of six-day-old girl
savaged to death by pet dog pay
emotional tribute to their baby
Eliza-Mae Mullane's parents say they
will 'cherish' time with the newborn
'Eliza-Mae will always be in our hearts'
say Sharon John and Patrick Mullane
Ms John, 42, wept to her neighbours
after her six-day-old girl was found
dead next to family pet
The dog, named Nisha, seized
from the property was an Alaskan Malamut
Dyfed Powys Police are investigating
the death in Pontyberem, mid Wales
Alaskan Malamutes were originally
bred as sled dogs for work in the Arctic
The dog, similar to a husky,
is not a banned breed]


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[user104658]

There are millions of families in the UK with dogs and babies and nothing happens. This story just illustrates how little grasp of numbers people have.

No it doesn't, and this is completely irrelevant. Dogs are unpredictable, and the fact that it doesn't usually end in any sort of problem simply does not justify the RISK - no matter how small that risk is. It happens. No one "needs" a dog, and the enjoyment of a family pet is not worth it by any stretch.

I fear that people are simply too attached to these animals, to be honest. Like I said - we humanize them, fool ourselves into thinking that they "love" us, and so we can't bear to say "its just a dog. If you're having a baby, don't have a dog for a few years."