Clegg vs Farage in a Debate Live 7PM BBC2HD & SkyNewsHD Weds 2nd April

[arista]

Reports confirm they are now going to have a debate.


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/2/20/290741/default/v1/nick-clegg-1-522x293.jpg



http://news.sky.com/story/1214654/clegg-challenges-farage-to-public-debate-on-eu

[Nedusa]

Nigel Farage should have told Nick Clegg to take a hike, when he does participate in a debate with the Govt he will debate it with Cameron and Miliband present as well..!!!

[arista]

Nigel Farage should have told Nick Clegg to take a hike, when he does participate in a debate with the Govt he will debate it with Cameron and Miliband present as well..!!!



No
its all he can get - he has been jolly about it
just before the Euro Elections in May.


Ideal in a Way as they are opposites on Europe

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/21/1392979375015/Nigel-Farage-camapigns-in-011.jpg


http://news.sky.com/story/1215218/farage-v-clegg-euro-debate-suits-both-parties

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nick-clegg/10653279/Nigel-Farage-agrees-to-EU-debate-with-Nick-Clegg.html


Link For kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/21/nigel-farage-accepts-clegg-debate-eu-membership

[the truth]

clegg is a 24 carrott bell end, he stands for nothing and falls for everything

[arista]

clegg is a 24 carrott bell end, he stands for nothing and falls for everything


He stands for Europe
thats enough for Nigel Farage

[joeysteele]

I would like to see this, I have absolutely no respect at all left for Nick Clegg and I also do hold some for Nigel Farage who does seem able to strike home with a good number of the public.

However, this could be a good debate,I in the main am more with Clegg as to the EU but I would like to see this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage will rip that milksop a new arsehole and i will be looking forward to him doing just that,.

[arista]

7PM BBC2HD
has been confirmed Weds 2nd april

Sadly David Dim. is in charge


Ref : Radio 5 Live



The Old
In or Out
of Europe

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lets get out of Europe but invade Ireland, like the Ruskies have done with badly behaved Crimea. Invade ireland, steal their resources and quell the rebels and their lawless ways

[waterhog]

don't have faith in any 3.

[arista]

don't have faith in any 3.



But its good to Debate

[Kizzy]

Urgh David Dimbleby? he ruins every question time tory mouthpeice.

[Niamh.]

Lets get out of Europe but invade Ireland, like the Ruskies have done with badly behaved Crimea. Invade ireland, steal their resources and quell the rebels and their lawless ways

You want to dance that dance again do you? hhhmmm??? :fist:

[michael21]

But its good to Debate

yes but bbc2 why not bbc1

[Kizzy]

Does Ireland have any resources... Apart from Guinness?

[Livia]

It would surely have been more fitting to hold it on April 1st.

[Niamh.]

Does Ireland have any resources... Apart from Guinness?

None that we'd be telling you Brits about anyway :smug:

[Livia]

Lets get out of Europe but invade Ireland, like the Ruskies have done with badly behaved Crimea. Invade ireland, steal their resources and quell the rebels and their lawless ways

That's just what we need. Another 800 years of that sh1t.

[waterhog]

But its good to Debate

only for the gullible.

[Nedusa]

Actually gullible isn't in the Oxford English Dictionary..........honest

Go check if you dont believe me..........!!!!!

[Jesus.]

Lets get out of Europe but invade Ireland, like the Ruskies have done with badly behaved Crimea. Invade ireland, steal their resources and quell the rebels and their lawless ways

But Patrick got rid of all the snakes.

[arista]

[The Deputy Prime Minister will debate the
UKIP leader in a radio debate on LBC
on March 26 and live televised
debate chaired by David Dimbleby on BBC 2 on April 2. ]

So a first debate on LBC radio
free online march 26


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10677475/Nick-Clegg-and-Nigel-Farage-to-go-head-to-head-in-live-TV-debate.html

[MTVN]

It will be a great debate, Farage is a master of populist rhetoric but Clegg showed in the 2010 election debates how strong he was on the debate stage as well, he will be no pushover

[Jesus.]

If NF was more likeable he'd take Clegg to the cleaners. Not because he holds the best position, but because I think the majority of this country either believes Europe is terrible, or only need the slightest push to believe that.

It's a lot harder to explain about trade agreements and other benefits in a debate structure.

NF can just point to stories about open borders, EU laws that cost jobs etc. He'll win it comfortably.

[joeysteele]

This is something Nick Clegg really believes in I agree and he will defend the EU very strongly however I think Nigel Farage will wipe the floor with him and although many have doubts as to the EU,I also believe Nigel Farage will connect better with the people watching.

I am pleased to see this taking place but I think it is a mistake on Nick Clegg's part.

[arista]

This is something Nick Clegg really believes in I agree and he will defend the EU very strongly however
I think Nigel Farage will wipe the floor with him and although many have doubts as to the EU,
I also belive Nigel Farage will connect better with the people watching.

I am pleased to see this taking place but I think it is a mistake on Nick Clegg's part.

Yes many agree.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/2/20/290754/default/v1/cleggersfaragers-1-522x293.jpg

[arista]

The First debate on LBC Radio and Online
will also be Live on SkyNewsHD this Weds 26th of march at 7PM

[arista]

Live tonight on SkyNews and SkyNewsHD
and LBC Radio and LBC Online all free.
All Online or on Digital TV.

http://news.sky.com/story/1231942/clegg-v-farage-who-will-be-knocked-out

http://www.lbc.co.uk/


7PM start time

[arista]

7PM - 8PM Live tonight


On SkyNewsHD and BBC NewsHD
and LBC


The Live crowd can Cheer or Sneer
unlike the other debates
no sitting on hands.


150 press are there as well
from all around Europe

[arista]

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Also Live on here
as LBC site is using youtube


Click Play and you get the clock Countdown
to 7PM Live for a hour

[MTVN]

Let's get ready to rumble

[arista]

Live now 1st Debate

On the 2nd April, round two will be televised live at the same time on BBC2HD

[arista]

Clegg is telling porkys


Loads (from europe) come over and take UK Jobs
undercutting UK wages

[MTVN]

Farage is right that Clegg dodged the immigration point really by bringing out that old Ukip leaflet

[arista]

Farage is right that Clegg dodged the immigration point really by bringing out that old Ukip leaflet


Clegg is a Sneaky turd




Yes Farage is also Right
about Work Permits are needed

[Nedusa]

Clegg has not got a leg to stand on

[Nedusa]

The powers that be must be really worried about this debate. The truth about Europe has been hidden from the GBP for decades.

Now the truth is coming out in spades....

I predict a riot.

[arista]

Clegg is making up Bollocks

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage is bossing

[Me. I Am Salman]

hope the ceiling collapses on nigel farage's head

[arista]

Clegg has lost this

[Crimson Dynamo]

Clegg has lost this

he could not win as farage has all the aces

[Nedusa]

Farage easily won that debate.

[arista]

hope the ceiling collapses on nigel farage's head

No more Like Clegg fals over cables

[arista]

Farage easily won that debate.


Bang On Right

[Crimson Dynamo]

Clegg says that he wants a Great Britain, not a little England.

Farage says that Clegg spent the whole debate avoiding the point about 485m people being able to come to the UK. He says he is a patriot. He wants good relations with other countries in Europe. But he wants Britain to govern itself.


Clegg looks down his nose at UKIP and thats the big problem - his disdain for any view but his own is clear.

[Me. I Am Salman]

he could not win as farage has all the aces

Farage easily won that debate.

I hate both of your views in general so much

[Nedusa]

Hah hah , Nick Clegg the fine print politician....

No real answers to the big questions

[Nedusa]

I hate both of your views in general so much

Why... I cut out all the exclamations just for you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hate both of your views in general so much

You have yet to realise what real life actually is. It will come.

[arista]

On Live LBC Radio
one lady went in Supporting Clegg

Came out Supporting Farage


Utter Bliss

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/26/298538/default/v1/cegrab-20140326-190135-349-1-626x352.jpg

[arista]

We need people from all over the world
not just Fecking Europe


This debate was on Worldwide

[Crimson Dynamo]

cameron will be doing this right now

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/picard-facepalm.jpg

[Nedusa]

I agree , Cameron knows the electorate will not be denied a referendum on EU membership. No more lies, no more delays he has to include a ref in the next Tory manifesto otherwise UKIP will get so many votes that will allow Labour to win election so mr Cameron is effectively caught between a rock and a hard place.

[arista]

YouGov Poll just out on SkyNewsHD

57% Farage
36% Clegg
7% don't knows

[Nedusa]

Didn't realise the EU forces Britain to take huge numbers of European migrants skilled or unskilled to the detriment of the UK's ability to take skilled people from all other non European countries.

Scandalous really, not in charge of our own Country

Why are more people not angry about this ?

[Cherie]

Didn't realise the EU forces Britain to take huge numbers of European migrants skilled or unskilled to the detriment of the UK's ability to take skilled people from all other non European countries.

Scandalous really, not in charge of our own Country

Why are more people not angry about this ?

Really do other European Countries have to do the same, I can't imagine Spain for example complying..

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/26/article-2590108-1C96C89400000578-39_634x400.jpg


Yes Nigel you Won in the polls
of this first debate



[Nigel Farage vs Nick Clegg: the debate for Europe -
Live

• YouGov polls suggests 57% of viewers thought Farage won.
• Only 36% of YouGov respondents thought Clegg won.
• Farage says EU has "blood on its hands" over Ukraine]


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/mar/26/nigel-farage-vs-nick-clegg-the-debate-for-europe-live
Link for Kizzy



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bjrhq2VCcAAgzcX.jpg

[joeysteele]

I think we got a lot of scaremongering from Nigel Farage and some rather over inflated estimates from Nick Clegg as to the problems we would face out of the EU.

I have to admit that Nick Clegg did better than I expected and on this subject I do in the main agree more with him than even the other 2 main parties.
I don't support the UKIP position at all.

My view wasn't altered one tiny bit from this debate.
I still support being in the EU and I neither want to have, or see the point of having a referendum on EU membership.
We are EU members,have been a long time now and only in the event of treaty changes and particularly any that call for a transfer of powers from the UK would I support a referendum at that time.

As to who won the debate, well I recall Nick Clegg talking directly to the camera and to the questioner,recalling their names too in the leaders debates in 2010.
Spouting out promises and all the things he would nver support,then doing the total opposite, so not impressed with that now.

For me although I agree with Nick Clegg a lot on the EU, I unfortunately think Nigel Farage and UKIP will benefit more from this debate than Clegg and the sheeplike Lib Dems.
I think Nigel Farage did a lot better than Nick Clegg in this debate and came across more sincere.
However,I see UKIP as a dangerous party for the good of all the UK and hope people will not just look at their EU stance but really get into and see the bad other policies they have.

No party will, or will be able to, deliver a referendum in the next parliament,unless there is any treaty changes,for which the conditions for a referendum are already locked in as automatic no matter who forms the next Govt.
Otherwise than that, in likely all fact,as some called this debate, all this EU talk is merely a sideshow from the really important issues for the UK,in my opinion.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/26/298589/default/v1/guardian-1-329x437.jpg


Farage Won It.

[michael21]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/26/298589/default/v1/guardian-1-329x437.jpg


Farage Won It.

yes we know you said that 3 times already :fist::fist::fist:

does anyone know who won the debate :grin2:

[the truth]

Theres something extraordinarily sanctimonious about clegg....I dont trust him and I dont particularly like him
farrage comes across as a typical british semi eccentric, but he does come across as sincere if thats the right word.
as for the subject matter, europe is a total disaster
I dont agree its either all in or all out....but the entire farcical non accountable gravy train must be derailed...the 580 page constitution is 560+ pages longer than the american constitution and 560 times less valuable

we didnt go into europe to finance 1000s of freeloaders to introduce 1000001 stupid laws dictating to us what we can and cant do and over riding most of british law, only to see other EU nations break these rules...meanwhile we pay in more than nearly everyone and get far less out. I detest what its become. its like a local corrupt wasteful council to the power 1 million

the issue of immigration is the least important imo Im not bothered by that at all...though I hope the rules on benefits are not exploited as we are not in a good economic position and our nhs is struggling to say the least. though I think the nhs collapse is as much about organization, accountability and values. Id draw up an nhs constitution too and encourage staff to make complaints totally anonymously. lousy staff must be weeded out urgently.

the EU was meant to encourage free trade and cut trade tape, its done the exact opposite
the fact so many european nations went bust and they hand picked a puppet government for italy just sums up what a car crash it all is. we are lucky we have farrage to point this out to us in his own inimitable way.

[Cherie]

Theres something extraordinarily sanctimonious about clegg....I dont trust him and I dont particularly like him
farrage comes across as a typical british semi eccentric, but he does come across as sincere if thats the right word.
as for the subject matter, europe is a total disaster
I dont agree its either all in or all out....but the entire farcical non accountable gravy train must be derailed...the 580 page constitution is 560+ pages longer than the american constitution and 560 times less valuable

we didnt go into europe to finance 1000s of freeloaders to introduce 1000001 stupid laws dictating to us what we can and cant do and over riding most of british law, only to see other EU nations break these rules...meanwhile we pay in more than nearly everyone and get far less out. I detest what its become. its like a local corrupt wasteful council to the power 1 million

the issue of immigration is the least important imo Im not bothered by that at all...though I hope the rules on benefits are not exploited as we are not in a good economic position and our nhs is struggling to say the least. though I think the nhs collapse is as much about organization, accountability and values. Id draw up an nhs constitution too and encourage staff to make complaints totally anonymously. lousy staff must be weeded out urgently.

the EU was meant to encourage free trade and cut trade tape, its done the exact opposite
the fact so many european nations went bust and they hand picked a puppet government for italy just sums up what a car crash it all is. we are lucky we have farrage to point this out to us in his own inimitable way.

I can say exactly the same for Farage. Neither of these two clowns inspire me with confidence. As for coming out of the EU what will happen to all the British people working and living in European countries if the UK leave? I really can't see any UK government being brow beated by Brussels while all other Countries do what they like, there must be some kick back for the UK.

[lostalex]

Minor parties expressing minority views. totally irrelevant political figures.

Neither party has any chance of having any kind of majority control in our lifetimes.

Might as well have had Katy Hopkins debating George Galloway.

[the truth]

1) they will never win total power but as weve seen they have the potential to form coallitions
2) even if they dont get into power again, having a UKIP mp does at least ensure these topics will be top of the agenda and you know where they stand
3) ukip are not a long term party they are here for the moment. but the liberals have sold out and once this government is done, so are they , forever

[arista]

This Weds 7PM 2nd live debate
its on BBC2HD and SkyNewsHD

[arista]

D. Dimbleby
was just Live on the Daily Politics
they showed a clip of him doing the same debate in '75
with Roy Jenkins Vs Tony Benn , Benn wanted out of the common
market.

He just said the same type of questions
of that 40 years back debate/refer.


He said questions will be 6 or 8
in number
60mins Live tonight on BBC2HD and SkyNewsHD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cant wait for tonite after the good Farage documentary.

Clegg is a vile career "Thick of it" politician who fears being off message

Farage is a bloke from Kent who has had enough

The public want Farage to kick Cleggs slimy butt and here's hoping he does it again

[Nedusa]

Because Farage mentioned at the end of the last debate that he admired Putin as a leader he has had to endure a whispering campaign against him suggesting he is a traitor to the west or is disloyal or treasonous.

Utter nonsense, typical Political manoeuvre if you can't attack the man's policies then attack the man.

[arista]

Kay Burley on SkyNewsHD just
gave David a box of top Champagne
he did not know if he could take it
he was outside the BBC W1 HQ.
He moved off camera to give it to his assistant.
Davis smiled and said thank you.

[joeysteele]

The thing is,all this is doing is giving Nigel Farage a higher status.
I have chatted to several people today who watched last week to try to learn more as to the EU, they learned nothing at all and were more confused than before after it.

A debate on the EU needs to be between people who can more objectively point out the pro EU issues and the anti ones too.
These 2.Clegg and Farage, are the 2 extreme as to the EU.
One has succcessfully goaded a leading UK politician into furnishing him with much more airtime than he would have likely got,namely Nigel Farage.

Then we have the other one, Nick Clegg, who is in all likelihood using this to set out his EU credentials again, in order to land hopefully for himself a really lucrative job in the EU after he leads his party into the abyss in 2015.

I will watch this but I hope it sticks to EU matters only, it is only supposed to be an EU debate.
Sadly with David Dimbledy hosting I fear it may sidetrack.

[arista]

The thing is,all this is doing is giving Nigel Farage a higher status.
I have chatted to several people today who watched last week to try to learn more as to the EU, they learned nothing at all and were more confused than before after it.

A debate on the EU needs to be between people who can more objectively point out the pro EU issues and the anti ones too.
These 2.Clegg and Farage, are the 2 extreme as to the EU.
One has succcessfully goaded a leading UK politician into furnishing him with much more airtime than he would have likely got,namely Nigel Farage.

Then we have the other one, Nick Clegg, who is in all likelihood using this to set out his EU credentials again, in order to land hopefully for himself a really lucrative job in the EU after he leads his party into the abyss in 2015.

I will watch this but I hope it sticks to EU matters only, it is only supposed to be an EU debate.
Sadly with David Dimbledy hosting I fear it may sidetrack.


Yes and worldwide as well.

I look forward to another debate on this session
on FoxNewsHD



Live on
BBC2HD Live from 7PM -8PM the debate [no before or after]
SkyNewsHD Live from 6:30PM - 8:30PM
BBC NewsHD Live from 6:30PM - 8:30PM
and
LBC radio Live

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT sitting in kitchen with candles. Powercut since 5
May come back 9pm
Going to miss live debate

FECK

[arista]

Live Now

Farage starts off well


Like LBC
the BBC allow claps


Clegg talking bollocks

[arista]

LT sitting in kitchen with candles. Powercut since 5
May come back 9pm
Going to miss live debate

FECK


Can you get LBC radio?


Its on there

[arista]

Clegg is Pissing me off
he keeps saying Nigel says this or that.

Stop being silly
and stick up your own fecking end - Clegg



Farage is not viewing Putin as a game


I wish we had the Lines going up and down systems

[arista]

I wish David Dim.
would stop Clegg pulling out leaflets.

Why is David scared to stopping fecking Clegg?

[Crimson Dynamo]

No. 5 live will give me updates

My supper is peanuts and a pepparami stick plus a large mug of Bells

[Crimson Dynamo]

Arista

Keep me updated

[arista]

David has said Clegg has spoken longer
and that is Davids fault.

Farage is talking better business answers than Clegg.

And Joey is right
David taking his time to Stop Clegg going on about Scotland

[GiRTh]

Farage is slaughtering Clegg. Not good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Feck off about Scotland Clegg

You are unknown there

[arista]

Clegg also answers each person question with their name
trying to be chummy.

Farage just pointed out No one trusts Clegg.

[James]

Arista

Keep me updated

Nigel Farage has just said it's his birthday tomorrow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Noone trusts that slimey toad

[arista]

Clegg just said I can't see you clive?
Where are you?


Stop wasting fecking time getting chummy

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT down to 4 candles

2 have gone

But Bells is 60% full

Bliss

[GiRTh]

What a load of sh*t

[arista]

Farage has Won this one

[GiRTh]

Farage slaughtered him.

[arista]

Farage slaughtered him.

Yes because he was a real Business man
before starting off in UKIP

[GiRTh]

Yes because he was a real Business man
before starting off in UKIPNo, because Farage is a bluffer pandering to peoples insecurities and telling them what they want to hear. He has no policy's.

[arista]

No, because Farage is a bluffer pandering to peoples insecurities and telling them what they want to hear. He has no policy's.


Sure
As is clegg

Farage 68%
Clegg 27%
don't know 5 %

you gov poll


also guardian poll has Farage as the winner by big amounts


SkyNewsHD inside the BBC
had to move to the side to say it

[GiRTh]

Its a sad day for British politics.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No
Farage is real
We are useydd to unreal politicians who say what we want to hear

[Crimson Dynamo]

No
Farage is real
We are useydd to unreal politicians who say what we want to hear

[arista]

Its a sad day for British politics.


No let the public speak

[GiRTh]

Farage is not the voice of the man in the street.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT has Power

[arista]

Farage is not the voice of the man in the street.


Sure.


we need to see what happens UK euro elections next month



Outside on BBCNews a bloke who asked a question
said Clegg let me down

[GiRTh]

LT has Power
:joker:

Farage gets another vote.

[Nedusa]

Watched this debate and again Farage won easily despite the constant jibes from Clegg with regard to Putin, give it a fcuking rest Nick people can see through this nonsense . They are here to witness sensible adult debate not childish name calling .

But I guess with nothing really to say Clegg is scratching around for any advantage.

In my opinion Farage put the case for having a referendum and laid out the reasons we need as a nation to withdraw from this European farce.

Farage could do no more and put over the case for leaving Europe with passion and succinctness.

Clegg on the other hand has no answers to the charges made and continues to recite the same tired old mantra.

I'm not buying it and hopefully nor will the GBP come voting time.

[arista]

Clegg Failed Again
and this time due to dear old David
he spoke longer and never got enough real points over.

Joey called this right
Clegg went off talking about Scotland
dear old David should have had a buzzer

[arista]

Watched this debate and again Farage won easily despite the constant jibes from Clegg with regard to Putin, give it a fcuking rest Nick people can see through this nonsense . They are here to witness sensible adult debate not childish name calling .

But I guess with nothing really to say Clegg is scratching around for any advantage.

In my opinion Farage put the case for having a referendum and laid out the reasons we need as a nation to withdraw from this European farce.

Farage could do no more and put over the case for leaving Europe with passion and succinctness.

Clegg on the other hand has no answers to the charges made and continues to recite the same tired old mantra.

I'm not buying it and hopefully nor will the GBP come voting time.


Bang On Right

[Pete.]

farage won tbh

[joeysteele]

While a great number of people will agree with Nigel Farage on the EU and it has to be admitted he believes he is right and makes his arguments well.
I personally hope anyone impressed as to the EU with UKIP look deeper at their other policies and don't just make a decision on their EU stance.

Really however, Nick Clegg was to me terrible tonight,he came across near desperate and had little reasoning at all as to his points.
Nigel Farage hammered Nick Clegg tonight.
That is really worrying,if the most pro EU leader of a party in the UK performs this badly on a subject he is passionate about then relevant arguments as to the EU that would be fair and balanced are never likely to take place in my view.

Both Conservative and Labour who have both presided over Govts. led by them that have involved treaty changes and in the case of the Conservatives taking the UK into Europe in the first place.
Well, they both need to sort themselves out and be responsible with the electorate of the UK as to the EU.
David Cameron should not play around with the issue of the EU as he is,he has left this festering for over 18 months now and isn't going to even set out to do anything unless he gets an overall majority.
That is ridiculous, all PM's and Govts. should always during all their time in power be looking at getting better deals for the UK, not lay conditions down for doing so.

I also believe that Labour and Ed Miliband would be wiser to also seek to negotiate some reforms and a better deal, maybe even acknowledge a need for a referendum too.
It is time the 2 main parties,especially after seeing Clegg's dismal failure tonight again, set out to work more together as to Europe and take the momentum on the issue away from Farage and UKIP.

For me, Clegg made a massive mistake in challenging Nigel Farage to these debates,he has been given a platform he likely could only have dreamed off until Clegg's public challenge.
The word that is sticking with a good few people I have spoken too during and since this debate is that Clegg came across as lying.
Clegg has massively underestimated Nigel Farage and both the Conservatives and Labour would now do well to learn from that if only as to the EU issue.

I honestly can see.no matter what David Cameron may have got were he to miraculously win the next election with the overall majority he would need to get a referendum bill through parliament, that in such a referendum he would be strongly risking sleepwalking the UK into leaving the EU.

Both the main parties have to try to find some concensus and lay this issue to bed,especially after these debates.
Nick Clegg has piled more pressure on David Cameron by having these debates and has also put Ed Miliband in a tricky spot too.
Nick Clegg has not in my view, done the UK electorate and indeed also those not able to vote yet, any favours at all by taking part in them.

Full marks to Nigel Farage,he was formidable and Cleggs personal attacks came across as really cheap and quite frankly pathetic too.

[Nedusa]

cameron will be doing this right now

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/picard-facepalm.jpg

Joey I think this picture sums up how David Cameron must be feeling about Nick Clegg's performance in these debates.

[arista]

"Full marks to Nigel Farage,he was formidable and Cleggs personal attacks came across as really cheap and quite frankly pathetic too."


Bang On Right Joey

[joeysteele]

I'd agree Nedusa,however in my view it is David Cameron who foolishly propelled the EU issue to the forefront with his problems in his own party as to the EU.

Had he not done so,I think it unlikely that Nick Clegg would have created this monster he has in politics as to challenging for these debates and thereby coming off as a dismal failure in both.

Without either David Cameron's procrastinated referendum plans and neither of these debates taking place at all thanks to Clegg.
I think it likely that UKIP would have stumbled along largely as it had been before and not be now in this much higher position as 'leading' an argument as to an issue of British politics.

Big mistakes,both of them I think anyway.

[the truth]

clegg is a scumbag

[Nedusa]

What's the betting Cameron will form another Coalition with Clegg

Slim chance and No chance..... and Slim's out of town

[Pete.]

I reckon coalition with Farage - people pleasing ofc

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT has Power

[GiRTh]

LT has PowerFarage picking up votes in this thread.

[michael21]

i bet no in this thread will vote

[arista]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73987000/gif/_73987459_clegg_farage_poll_624.gif

[Nedusa]

What's the difference between Bin Laden and Nick Clegg?

One's a treacherous, dangerous c_unt who brought fear to millions of people with his threats and promises,

and the other's Bin Laden.

[joeysteele]

What's the betting Cameron will form another Coalition with Clegg

Slim chance and No chance..... and Slim's out of town

No chance I think Nedusa,because I firstly cannot see the Conservatives as being even the largest party in 2015 and even if they were, I don't see the Lib Dems having enough seats to give them an overall majority.
Secondly,I see Nick Clegg as the problem now, the voters likely don't believe much, if indeed anything, that Clegg says.

Really the Lib Dems, to pick up any of their lost votes, should have replaced Nick Clegg before the 2015 election, he has in my view virtually no 'political' credibility or integrity left.

[Nedusa]

No chance I think Nedusa,because I firstly cannot see the Conservatives as being even the largest party in 2015 and even if they were, I don't see the Lib Dems having enough seats to give them an overall majority.
Secondly,I see Nick Clegg as the problem now, the voters likely don't believe much, if indeed anything, that Clegg says.

Really the Lib Dems, to pick up any of their lost votes, should have replaced Nick Clegg before the 2015 election, he has in my view virtually no 'political' credibility or integrity left.

I agree, in fact I struggle to see where the Lib Dems go now as a major Political Party. Their leader Nick Clegg is history, his reputation is tarnished beyond redemption.

But as a political force I wonder where they can go from here. They have no realistic policies but rather a mishmash of outdated ideals where they try to appeal to everyone but end up alienating everyone.

Perhaps UKIP will form the next coalition , question is who with ?

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/4/2/300036/default/v1/telegraph-1-329x437.jpg
right hand side of the paper Farage

[arista]

http://i1.richardyoungerross.org.uk/en/image/5qm1vH/192/192/nick-clegg-v-nigel-farage-debate-challenge-graphic.png

Are you In or Out
or do you Shake It All About

[Crimson Dynamo]

Clegg used the same "fear" tactics last night as Cameron does to Scotland with independence and they are highly patronising and desperate


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1112369/thumbs/o-UKIP-LEAFLET-facebook.jpg

[Pete.]

Clegg used the same "fear" tactics last night as Cameron does to Scotland with independence and they are highly patronising and desperate


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1112369/thumbs/o-UKIP-LEAFLET-facebook.jpg
convinced this is a fake

[Crimson Dynamo]

convinced this is a fake

http://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/uk-election-he-used-to-ignore-immigration-now-he-lives-on-a-reservation-ukip-2010/

[the truth]

the debate is meant to be on europe yet clegg in his desperation started pandering and patronising to women and gay rights.....which had chuff all to do with the topic at hand. he then tried to paint farrage as a bolshovik for his alleged comments about puting being a good strategist (or words to that effect) meanwhile clegg is gung ho and backed libyan and syrian invasions (probably backed iraq too) clegg doesnt mind bombing innocent people with flimsy evidence and even flimsier reason for doing so....yet gets all upset about a comment about putin? thats before we even get started on tuition fees etc
his smug war mongering double talking false sanctimonious gibberish sickenes me to death, hes the kind of idiot who demands democracy then bans everyone from having an opinion that contradicts his.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the debate is meant to be on europe yet clegg in his desperation started pandering and patronising to women and gay rights.....which had chuff all to do with the topic at hand. he then tried to paint farrage as a bolshovik for his alleged comments about puting being a good strategist (or words to that effect) meanwhile clegg is gung ho and backed libyan and syrian invasions (probably backed iraq too) clegg doesnt mind bombing innocent people with flimsy evidence and even flimsier reason for doing so....yet gets all upset about a comment about putin? thats before we even get started on tuition fees etc
his smug war mongering double talking false sanctimonious gibberish sickenes me to death, hes the kind of idiot who demands democracy then bans everyone from having an opinion that contradicts his.

I found you a nice avatar

http://www.preachingfriars.org/sites/www.preachingfriars.org/files/the-truth-shall-set-you-free.jpg