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Ammi
22-02-2014, 06:24 AM
DJ Chris Moyles claimed to be a second-hand car dealer while presenting Radio 1’s Breakfast Show in a bid to save up to £1million in tax, a tribunal ruled yesterday.

He now faces a whopping bill after a tax judge said he did not believe the former Radio 1 star had been buying and selling used cars.

Last night Moyles publicly admitted his ‘mistake’ and said he had ‘learnt a valuable lesson’.

But he has fought hard to hush up his use of tax avoidance schemes.

When it emerged in 2012 he had used the same legal offshore scheme as comedian Jimmy Carr, who was paying as little as 1 per cent, Moyles claimed it would breach his human rights if he could not keep his membership secret.

Separately, Moyles, 39, was one of 450 celebrities, fund managers and other top earners to try to avoid tax by taking part in a scheme called ‘Working Wheels’.

It worked by allowing members to say they had incurred huge fees while working in the second-hand car trade, which they could claim back against their tax bill.

On the self-assessment tax return he filed for the financial year ending in April 2008, when he was presenting the BBC Radio 1 show, he claimed he ‘had engaged in self-employment as a used-car trader’.

He claimed he had made a loss of £1million, but a tax tribunal ruled this was just a ruse to save tax

It found that, far from being a car dealer, Moyles had never supplied any vehicles and had ‘no interest’ in doing so

Nor did he have the faintest idea how much the cars he was supposedly trading cost to buy and to sell.

When HM Revenue and Customs rejected the scheme, Moyles and two other members appealed to a tax court

Yesterday, tax judge Colin Bishopp rejected the appeal, saying it was clear he ‘entered the scheme for no purpose other than to achieve a tax saving’.

He said the ‘scale of Mr Moyles’ borrowing was driven solely by the amount of the tax loss he wanted to achieve, in his case £1million.

The ruling said Moyles was ‘anxious to be reassured the scheme was lawful, and that he would not have to undertake any trading himself’.

Moyles later took to Twitter to say: ‘Upon advice, I signed up to a scheme which I was assured was legal. My knowledge of the dealings of the scheme were naive. I’m not a tax expert and acted on advice. This was a mistake and I accept the ruling without reservation.’
But he was not so keen to speak about the case when he still hoped to win it. During his year-long battle with the taxman, Moyles desperately tried to keep his avoidance scheme secret.


His legal team argued the tribunal should be heard behind closed doors so as not to infringe his ‘right to respect for his private and family life’.

His lawyer also said if his membership were exposed, ‘his career might be damaged’. As Breakfast Show host, he earned £500,000 a year.

Judge Bishopp rejected this on the grounds there was an obvious public interest in keeping tax cases public


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565063/Radio-DJ-Chris-Moyles-claimed-second-hand-CAR-DEALER-save-1-million-celebrity-tax-avoidance-scheme.html

Kizzy
22-02-2014, 09:43 AM
Come on name an shame the other 450, Chris can't take all the flak...

arista
22-02-2014, 10:07 AM
DJ Chris Moyles claimed to be a second-hand Car Dealer
to not pay one million in tax.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/21/article-0-165CC1E0000005DC-150_306x423.jpg

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565063/Radio-DJ-Chris-Moyles-claimed-second-hand-CAR-DEALER-save-1-million-celebrity-tax-avoidance-scheme.html#ixzz2u2mtLqmu

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/21/article-2565063-1BB6C41A00000578-701_634x350.jpg

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Jordan.
22-02-2014, 10:27 AM
Fat obnoxious man turns out to also be greedy

smudgie
22-02-2014, 10:46 AM
They need to start jailing the thieving beggars.

Just let any of us mere mortals try tax avoidance...

waterhog
22-02-2014, 10:47 AM
they are all at it - bit like the MP's - maybe not all but allot of them have fingers in pies.

Kate!
22-02-2014, 11:19 AM
Chris Moyles :yuk:

Knobhead.

arista
22-02-2014, 11:43 AM
Fat obnoxious man turns out to also be greedy


He got away with it
Under New Labour Power

Kyle
22-02-2014, 11:45 AM
Disgusting.

Crimson Dynamo
22-02-2014, 01:10 PM
He did what most of us would do - it was legal and he was trying to pay less tax.

er Amazon anyone, or Vodafone ?

arista
22-02-2014, 01:13 PM
He did what most of us would do - it was legal and he was trying to pay less tax.

er Amazon anyone, or Vodafone ?


Why the Feck did
New Labour not change the Tax Laws
in their long 13 years?

Kizzy
22-02-2014, 01:18 PM
Why the Feck did
New Labour not change the Tax Laws
in their long 13 years?

We have had a new government since 2010.... It's increasingly evident to the clergy and the public where the governments loyalties lie (and it's society)

Crimson Dynamo
22-02-2014, 01:24 PM
Why the Feck did
New Labour not change the Tax Laws
in their long 13 years?

If you recall Tony Blair was too busy being a celebrity and hob nobbing with the MD's of Banks to be actually working..

GiRTh
22-02-2014, 01:27 PM
He did what most of us would do - it was legal and he was trying to pay less tax.

er Amazon anyone, or Vodafone ?True but didnt Moyles once rant about not getting paid? He acted like he was short of money yet at that time was avoiding paying taxes. I think its disgusting and I hope the judge make an example out of him.

Crimson Dynamo
22-02-2014, 01:31 PM
True but didnt Moyles once rant about not getting paid? He acted like he was short of money yet at that time was avoiding paying taxes. I think its disgusting and I hope the judge make an example out of him.

No, Moyles ranted about not getting paid for 2 months - as anyone would. He was the stations top dj and the twits at the bbc had just not paid him for no reason other than poor work practice.

Every very rich person tries as best they can to not pay tax. At least Moyles lives here and has not pissed off to somewhere else and then moan about the UK.

arista
22-02-2014, 01:34 PM
We have had a new government since 2010.... It's increasingly evident to the clergy and the public where the governments loyalties lie (and it's society)


yes from Mid 2010.


But New Labour had time

GiRTh
22-02-2014, 01:35 PM
No, Moyles ranted about not getting paid for 2 months - as anyone would. He was the stations top dj and the twits at the bbc had just not paid him for no reason other than poor work practice.

Every very rich person tries as best they can to not pay tax. At least Moyles lives here and has not pissed off to somewhere else and then moan about the UK.You somehow manage to make him sound honorable.

He broke the law and must be punished.

Crimson Dynamo
22-02-2014, 01:37 PM
You somehow manage to make him sound honorable.

He broke the law and must be punished.

Where does it say he broke the law?

GiRTh
22-02-2014, 01:40 PM
He claimed he had made a loss of £1million, but a tax tribunal ruled this was just a ruse to save tax

This is fraud at the very least.

Crimson Dynamo
22-02-2014, 01:44 PM
This is fraud at the very least.

I think the accountant just exploited a loophole

Marc
22-02-2014, 01:55 PM
Always thought he was a douche. Yay for this

GiRTh
22-02-2014, 02:04 PM
I think the accountant just exploited a loophole
Thats one way of looking at it.

Kizzy
22-02-2014, 02:05 PM
yes from Mid 2010.


But New Labour had time

I appreciate that but that has no baring on what is happening in the here and now.

Livia
22-02-2014, 04:44 PM
they are all at it - bit like the MP's - maybe not all but allot of them have fingers in pies.

Since the expenses scandal broke MPs income and taxes are some of the most scrutinised in the country. Nice sweeping statement though.

People employ accountants to find ways for them not to pay tax, and when it doesn't pan out, they pay lawyers to sort it. Moyles didn't think of this on his own, he wouldn't have the intelligence.

arista
22-02-2014, 05:08 PM
I appreciate that but that has no baring on what is happening in the here and now.


Yes It Bloody Does as in 2008
New Labour were in power
when he started the Tax advice fiddle

King Gizzard
22-02-2014, 05:10 PM
and yet the priority remains reforming the welfare system

arista
22-02-2014, 05:12 PM
and yet the priority remains reforming the welfare system


Something New Labour run scared of.

arista
22-02-2014, 05:13 PM
Moyles needs to Come Out of his home
and give a Statement.


Jimmy Carr did.

King Gizzard
22-02-2014, 05:13 PM
(I wasn't agreeing that the priority should be the welfare system)

Vicky.
22-02-2014, 08:51 PM
and yet the priority remains reforming the welfare system

Yup. Sad isnt it...

Z
23-02-2014, 02:44 PM
Yes It Bloody Does as in 2008
New Labour were in power
when he started the Tax advice fiddle

What does Chris Moyles' greed have to do with who's in power? Absolutely nothing. He was also doing it when the Tories were in power. It has absolutely no bearing on the fact he was trying to dodge taxes.

arista
23-02-2014, 03:17 PM
What does Chris Moyles' greed have to do with who's in power? Absolutely nothing. He was also doing it when the Tories were in power. It has absolutely no bearing on the fact he was trying to dodge taxes.


Simply because by then New Labour
had many years to Change the Fecking Tax Laws
but did nothing for 13 Fecked up years

Z
23-02-2014, 04:47 PM
Simply because by then New Labour
had many years to Change the Fecking Tax Laws
but did nothing for 13 Fecked up years

So have the Tories and the Lib Dems? It's clearly not a priority for any political party.

arista
23-02-2014, 06:04 PM
So have the Tories and the Lib Dems? It's clearly not a priority for any political party.


13 years is longer
than 3 years

Z
23-02-2014, 06:07 PM
13 years is longer
than 3 years

Fixing such a loophole would not take a matter of years. The time spent in power is irrelevant.

Kizzy
23-02-2014, 06:48 PM
I would bet more of these loopholes have come into existance in the last 3 years.

Vicky.
23-02-2014, 07:46 PM
At some point or another, labour has to stop being blamed for things the tories have done/have not done. I fear the day that comes, aristas hard drive will just fry.

GiRTh
23-02-2014, 07:49 PM
At some point or another, labour has to stop being blamed for things the tories have done/have not done. I fear the day that comes, aristas hard drive will just fry.True. In the USA Obama is taking flack for Bushes shortcomings so we need to stop talking about a government that hasnt been in power for almost four years,

Kizzy
23-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Yes It Bloody Does as in 2008
New Labour were in power
when he started the Tax advice fiddle

No need to bloody swear!
Where is the evidence all tax fiddles originated in 2008?

Vicky.
23-02-2014, 10:28 PM
When it emerged in 2012 he had used the same legal offshore scheme as comedian Jimmy Carr, who was paying as little as 1 per cent, Moyles claimed it would breach his human rights if he could not keep his membership secret.

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Love this bit though :laugh:

InOne
23-02-2014, 10:33 PM
At least Moyles entertains unlike the anonymous fat cats who suck the country dry with things like this. Might be a bit bias as he's from Leeds but my opinion still stands.

Kizzy
23-02-2014, 10:36 PM
I'm from Leeds not bias either, I think he's a knob :), but the article does say there were another 450 celebs on the scheme too... bit unfair he gets all the flak.

InOne
23-02-2014, 10:37 PM
Why is he a knob? I mean is it just for this or did you think that before lol

Vicky.
23-02-2014, 10:59 PM
Jimmy carr and gary barlow had all the flack last year despite loads of them being at it. About time it shifted to someone else

Nedusa
23-02-2014, 11:01 PM
DJ Chris Moyles claimed to be a second-hand Car Dealer
to not pay one million in tax.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/21/article-0-165CC1E0000005DC-150_306x423.jpg

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565063/Radio-DJ-Chris-Moyles-claimed-second-hand-CAR-DEALER-save-1-million-celebrity-tax-avoidance-scheme.html#ixzz2u2mtLqmu

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/21/article-2565063-1BB6C41A00000578-701_634x350.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/2/21/291113/default/v1/mirror-1-329x437.jpg

Who would buy a used car from this man ??

Jack_
23-02-2014, 11:17 PM
Hope this means he'll finally have to get his arse back to radio where he belongs, not as a TV presenter, actor or extra in cookery programmes

He looks so different these days D:

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