The Reason for Nikki's Downfall?

[Edwin]

Does anyone think the real reason that she has become so unpopular was because of people constantly telling her she was great, her tantrums were great and also telling her that ash was a bitch. So she goes back in with a complete warped view of reality,(because after all she couldn't have been that great if she was voted out in an 11 horse race..) She thinks that everyone loves her tantrums so she ups it completely, which in my eyes just looked contrived and not as innocent as before. I liked Nikki because she did seem self aware when she was originally in the house.. she always mentioned how she must annoy everyone and how she sounds like a brat, she even said when she left the house that she should be taken away in a straight jacket. She also thought the public hated ash, (because most Nikki fans don't seem to like Ash) so she slagged her off whilst she was in the HND, but all that did was just make ash more loved, she gained the sympathy vote and only made Nikki look bad.. So, when she comes 5th place and hears the crowd booing she is shocked. I'm not saying Nikki was completely in the right, but if people tell you that you're great you're not going to think you're awful.

[Chrizzle]

Yeah, I do think this
I think she has expectations to live up to

If she did it again, she'd be classed as a fake
If she didnt do it, she'd be classed as boring

[Edwin]

she was more self aware and wasn't as 'up' herself when she first went in the house...

[Foebane100]

Many of the public didn't want old housemates to return, this combined with the performance of her trying to recapture what she was told the public likes. The things you said she did probably just added to everything, making many not like her.

[kittykat321]

i likeed niki the 1st time around, i just felt like she was acting alot of the time the 2nd time around,obvously coz she new the public liked the tantrum niki

[Chrizzle]

Yeah.
If you knew the public liked something, you'd keep doing it

I think Edwin's first post is spot on

[kittykat321]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Yeah.
If you knew the public liked something, you'd keep doing it

I think Edwin's first post is spot on

yip, agree,,, she thought thats what we wanted to see, which it was,,, but as it was forced, it wasnt real

[Edwin]

it's mostly endemols fault, everyone mollycoddling her when she must have been evicted for something.

[Arneldo]

This is a Post from Jokersupdate (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=BigBrotherUK&Number=3854455&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) That i think is very good just thaught it woukd fit in nicely with this topic.

Nikki was extremely popular when she was first evicted-- she was almost the entire show. However, things changed a bit... This isn't my opinion at all-- I loved Nikki both times she went in, and I don't feel personally that she changed her ways at all... But these, I would say, are the reasons some people's opinions of sweet Nikki changed:

1. People got very upset that she went back in a second time. Many people felt that this twist was completely unfair-- not Nikki's fault at all, but she may have been booed because of it.
2. Some feel that she became highly aware of what people liked about her and that she played this up in round 2... the tantrums, the DR visits, etc... I don't think they were any different at all.
3. Her relationship with Pete was very... "hands on"... lots of people didn't like all of the public displays of affection and the "mushiness". Others feel that it was all for the cameras and that she actually doesn't like him-- I, again, disagree and think that it was all genuine.
4. The Ais Factor-- Nikki didn't like her at all going back in the second time. She had a major blow out with her the week she left, plus, she'd left and heard some of the negative things Ais had said about her (not many, mind you). Combine this with a HND full of HMs that hated Ais, and some major anti-Ais bitching went down. Somehow, (I still can't figure out why) Ais went from despised by the public to well liked by a large chunk of the public... Since Nikki had said a lot of negative (but true?) things about her, well... some people soured.

[Rory]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Yeah, I do think this
I think she has expectations to live up to

If she did it again, she'd be classed as a fake
If she didnt do it, she'd be classed as boring
:thumbs:

[Edwin]

Originally posted by bb4eva
This is a Post from Jokersupdate (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=BigBrotherUK&Number=3854455&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) That i think is very good just thaught it woukd fit in nicely with this topic.

Nikki was extremely popular when she was first evicted-- she was almost the entire show. However, things changed a bit... This isn't my opinion at all-- I loved Nikki both times she went in, and I don't feel personally that she changed her ways at all... But these, I would say, are the reasons some people's opinions of sweet Nikki changed:

1. People got very upset that she went back in a second time. Many people felt that this twist was completely unfair-- not Nikki's fault at all, but she may have been booed because of it.
2. Some feel that she became highly aware of what people liked about her and that she played this up in round 2... the tantrums, the DR visits, etc... I don't think they were any different at all.
3. Her relationship with Pete was very... "hands on"... lots of people didn't like all of the public displays of affection and the "mushiness". Others feel that it was all for the cameras and that she actually doesn't like him-- I, again, disagree and think that it was all genuine.
4. The Ais Factor-- Nikki didn't like her at all going back in the second time. She had a major blow out with her the week she left, plus, she'd left and heard some of the negative things Ais had said about her (not many, mind you). Combine this with a HND full of HMs that hated Ais, and some major anti-Ais bitching went down. Somehow, (I still can't figure out why) Ais went from despised by the public to well liked by a large chunk of the public... Since Nikki had said a lot of negative (but true?) things about her, well... some people soured.


I agree with all of that, Nikki's tantrums would have been called fake no matter what she did, and I knew that before she went into the HND, that's why I was so desperate for her not to go in as it will only be her downfall... i was right. I can't blame Nikki for maybe acting up to a certain extent, I only really blame endemol for letting Nikki go back in, as it has done nothing but ruin it for her. But, nonetheless I thought them going back in was a great twist, I thought Grace was hilarious as usual and It was great to see her again. It would've been better if Lea had gone back in, as she had no expectations to live up to...

[Crystal-Rose]

i thought she was ok the first time round, but wanted her out the second time, it was obvious nikki wasent going to win, her support had gone down since re entering the house, she couldnt get the votes :bawling:

[nikkiisgreat]

yea gree with wot u said

[devilsadvocate]

nikki is nikki's problem.she kind of caused her own down fall,aided and abeited by certain media types.

she believed her own hype and played up to it second time around.then when even nikki fans got bored of her special brand of so-called entertainment and got tired of seeing her sucking pete face in to oblivion,the media guys sensed a change in public opinion.suddenly nikki was'nt edited to look as ,erm 'endearing' any more.there were no more 'don't be a thikki,vote for nikki' type slogans and the public opinion swayed the other way.maybe it's because during her first night in the HND all she banged on about was her photo-shoots and her film premiers

then we started to see nikki on BB highlights show as being quite nasty and grotesque,(i don't think this was a recent thing,i feel that channel4/endemol chose not to show her in this way first time around as the public loved her).after that it was all down hill.

even the pete/nikki show left a sour taste in some peoples mouth,(especially mine).i seem to recall nikki going on about how there are no fit guys in the house for ages,while pete was under her nose the whole time.did she suffer from temporary blindness???

she brought it on herself.

[Edwin]

But I don't see why Nikki was blamed for her and Pete, it's not as if he didn't like her face off aswell. Typical, women always get the blame by the majority of pathetic teenage girls..

[devilsadvocate]

maybe it's because pete had no back-bone,and was a bit too spineless to tell her to back off first time around.second time around he probably did/does like her.but......is the feeling mutual???

edwin, i hope you don't think im a teenage girl???

[emz438]

Lol I agree exactly with the first post, I liked Nikki when she was in the house for the first time, but after she came out and went BACK in I started to feel like ... I'm not sure, I think it was the combination of her slagging off Aisleyne (who I wanted to win) and just being genuinely repetitive. It was like, I'd seen all the tantrums before, it wasn't entertaining anymore, now that she'd gone out, had time to re-energize and read what the papers had said about her, and come back in again. Almost like she was past her sell-by date. The tantrums seemed forced and fake. I also went off her because of the Aisleyne thing, I have to say, as Aisleyne was nothing but nice to Nikki in her last week, trying to make up with her etc., and Nikki seemed all right with her too when she left, but when she got back in, as soon as she started talking to Grace ... well it went downhill from then on.

[Edwin]

Nikki was being quite modest in todays HLs saying how she thinks that she is hated herself, and that ash is less hated than her. I'm impressed.

[lily.]

I didn't like Nikki the first time, but I also didn't think she was fake. However, the second time, I still didn't like her for all the same reasons, and add to that the fakeness of her behaviour, her false relationship with Pete who she never looked twice at first time around, and my general feeling of disgust at BB for putting ex HMs back into the house.. resulting in me disliking her more second time around..

However... back to Edwin's original post.. I'm sure she was advised (badly) on how to act, and this has done her more harm than good in the long run... it's a bit of a shame really, but that's life in the media, isn't it?

[Edwin]

Originally posted by Stropz
However... back to Edwin's original post.. I'm sure she was advised (badly) on how to act, and this has done her more harm than good in the long run... it's a bit of a shame really, but that's life in the media, isn't it?

It's ridiculous, she didn't deserve to be embarrassed like that on live tv.

[lily.]

Nobody does Edwin, but then again, it could be argued that she knew what she was letting herself in for when she entered BB in the first place, and having come out and gone back in, she also knew how the media can build you up and then destroy you...

I personally don't think she is mentally/emotionally stable enough to have ever been in the BB house, but it seems that BB aren't exactly strict on those policies, and are prepared to let someone in and basically watch them have a nervous breakdown on camera... It's all just a bit distasteful really.

[Edwin]

I agree. But if she was better prepared and wasn't arse licked by so many people when she was out of the house she would have been expecting it and thus wouldn't have looked like a right ol' muppet. ALso, the crowd should have not booed her when she was so clearly distraught.

[lily.]

The crowd are WuckFits. This has been established.. and from now on anyone entering BB will have to remember this. If they are not emotionally sound, they should stay at home and watch it and talk about it like we do.. :thumbs:

She was definitely ill-advised... I completely agree with you on that one, and unfortunately for her, this will be how she is remembered... as a laughing stock.. :sad:

[Edwin]

yes, no arguments there :bored: