The only way to top last years secrets and lies theme is this.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother: Carnage!: Summer 2014

Its time to bring back freedom of speech and finally face all this racist, bullying bull**** and let it play out un edited and raw to the nation.
This concept is extreme but would surely produce the most controversial Civilian Big Brother in a decade.

Are Channel 5 brave enough to do it?

This is a long read but I promise you its a good one if I say so myself. I would love to hear feedback.

So here's the deal

Every housemate will have to live with someone who's values and beliefs in life are highly different to each other.

Wether it be religion, the colour of someone's skin or sexuality no subject should be off the table and it should be uncensored, every little nip slip, racist, religious, homophobic remark should all be left to play out without BB intervening. Nothing is taboo.

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Here's the casting idea

Lets turn things on their head.

Housemate 1: A devout immigrant muslim with a serious bigoted opnion towards the western worlds morals and habits/culture. Its time to see racist attitudes from both sides seeing as we never see white people racially abused when it happens everywhere.

Housemate 2: A white possible Christian girl who thinks immigrants are whats wrong with this country and has a very narrow minded opinion on the muslim community. She is also very bigoted. Lets see who wins in the ever lasting racist row.

Housemate 3: Something we have never seen before a gay guy who is heterophobic and will only associate with his own kind. He supports gay marriage and is passionate about campaigning gay rights. He has a chip on his shoulder and is as stubborn and argumentative as as hell.

Housemate 3/4: A boy and a girl who are very offended by gay people and think their lives are wrong/un natural. They absolutely disagree with gay marriage and rights.

Housemate 5: A homewrecker, someone who broke up a marriage.

Housemate 6: The person who was the victim in that marriage break up.

Housemate 7: A Bulgarin immigrant who is currently being accused of stealing our jobs.

Housemate 8: A man who has recently been made redundant and feels its to do with immigrants taking all the jobs. This man should be unemployed still and be very opinionated.

Housemate 9: A lesbian who loves pretty straight girls and is totally open about it. She has a potty mouth and talks non stop about sex.

Housemate 10: A pretty girl who has led a bit of a sheltered life, she has never met a lesbian in her life. She dislikes people who have had a lot of sexual encounters and wont tolerate repulsive sexual talk.

Housemate 11: A sexist who believes women should not be allowed to have the same rights as men.

Housemate 12: An extreme femmenist whos arch nemesis is any sexist man.

Housemate 13: Someone who comes from a strict amish background who has never had sex or drunk alcohol.

Housemate 14: A very seductive genuinely bisexual gorgeous party girl who loves nothing more than partying, sex and alcohol.

Housemate 15: A tattoed, chav who comes from a very harsh upbringing. She is not on the dole, she is a single mother and has to work her arse off to make ends meet.

Housemate 16: This is housemates 15th father who she hasn't seen since she was a toddler. He will be introduced on day 3 just as everyone is settling down ("Yeah Jackie") and she gets to decide if he becomes a housemate or gets her revenge by kicking him out on his arse come Fridays eviction.
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Could this bring BB back to an actual social experiment?

Yes this will cause alot of drama, offensive uncomfortable viewing but by the end of the series the housemates and the general public could learn a bit more about the subjects and watch them talk open and honestly about their feelings to resolve these issues instead of BB having to call the housemates involved to the diary room incase they are about to say something slightly offensive.

The Ofcom crew complaining at the first opportunity don't realise is that allowing the public to watch real issues happening can only do good as it will cause serious debates around the country and people could actually become more tolerant of people who are different from them and learn about different attitudes towards different cultures and serious issues. The constant complaints about racism/sexism ect is doing more harm than good we need it to play out so we can watch human nature and how good can come from bad situations.

Yes it would appear a manic cast from hell but as the show grows I think it could be one of the deepest darkest yet inspiring ones to date.

Go on Channel 5 just go for it, **** Ofcom and hope for the best from critics, these last 2 series have pushed the boundaries and with something so out there like this we could be looking at the first Channel 5 Civilian BB to average over 2 million.

This would be the only way to get BB back to the social experiment it once was aswell by casting people with real beliefs and issues.

So, whats your thoughts?

[Kate!]

I think it's too extreme and we'd see the first BB murder :laugh:

[joe199998293]

I'd rather not see homophobia in the house.

[thesheriff443]

we will get more z list celebs with an agent,
the bully card is now so over used in bigbrother!.

they should put a real homeless person in there.

[Rob!]

This is the kind of thing we should be seeing - the whole point of BB is seeing people from different backgrounds' reaction to each other. I'd love a series like this :D

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'd rather not see homophobia in the house.

But it happens everyday in the real world.

Seeing someone being homophobic in the house would actually do wonders for gay rights on the outside and watching that person knocked down a peg or 2 would be compulsive to watch.

This idea isn't that far from BB5 where they used the same kind of casting technique it just shows how backwards the show has gone seeing as they wont let housemates in who have most of the above opinions.

Big Brother is constantly accused of being offensive, racist ect and we allways get that 1000 small group of Ofcom complainers who complain over things that really shouldn't cause anyone discomfort viewing.

Would be nice to show them what offensive behaviour really looks like the irritating little ****s also maybe once Big Brother finally faces its critics and shows actual homophobic, racist behaviour play out then we have a bar that is set and people will finally understand what it is and not have to look for it.

I think it would be a far more political house, the media attention would be back on it no doubt, there wouldn't really be a choice. It would be a social experiment at its rawest.

I don't think Channel 5 have the balls to do it even though anything that happens in the house is purely down to the housemates actions and does not represent the attitudes of Channel 5 or Endemol.

All Channel 5 need to do is put a disclaimer before every episode and they are pretty much covered.

Honestly can anyone else not see this being an amazing idea? lol

[BigBrotherGuy100]

i dont think any normal C5 series could beat BB14....

[Jordan.]

I can't be bothered reading all that but the secrets and lies theme was **** so they don't have to try hard.

[reece(:]

Might be entertaining but all it will give C5 is bad press

[Headie]

Never gonna happen. I like dramatic series but that series just sounds like it would be non-stop hatefulness, which isn't entertaining when it's happening 24/7.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Never gonna happen. I like dramatic series but that series just sounds like it would be non-stop hatefulness, which isn't entertaining when it's happening 24/7.

Not at all I think it would be interesting to see these people go at it hammer and tong but I also think that as time goes on unlikely friendships would form but that would only happen if Big Brother actually let the housemates say and do exactly what they want without fear of BB intervening.

The press could actually become very positive if it picks up on how Big Brother has gone from being just a tv show to an important social experiment again that has got the nation talking about issues that need to be addressed.

Over the last 7 years or so Britain has become pc to the point that its causing segregation and animosity between different groups as we are not allowed to talk openly about things making us frustrated and in fear of offending certain religions, race, sexualities and so on.

Big Brother is a very powerful platform and to have people actually openly discuss such taboo topics could really change the state of mind of millions of viewers.

This is how BB used to be back in its heyday remember so its sad to see this is seen such an outrageous idea now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I can't be bothered reading all that but the secrets and lies theme was **** so they don't have to try hard.

No offence but it takes like 1 minute to read. Don't be so lazy and maybe you can contribute something interesting to the thread then.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Mods can I please add a poll to this.

2 options.

What do you think of the proposed changes?

Good idea
Bad idea

[T*]

Is this a joke?

[T*]

Mods can I please add a poll to this.

2 options.

What do you think of the proposed changes?

Good idea
Bad idea

Click thread tools at the top

[T*]

This is ridiculous. It would make BB suffer, and do you not remember what happened to bb on C4?

[Marsh.]

Top the secrets and lies theme? BB4 could do that.

I enjoyed last years series but the theme was barely present.

[T*]

Not at all I think it would be interesting to see these people go at it hammer and tong but I also think that as time goes on unlikely friendships would form but that would only happen if Big Brother actually let the housemates say and do exactly what they want without fear of BB intervening.

The press could actually become very positive if it picks up on how Big Brother has gone from being just a tv show to an important social experiment again that has got the nation talking about issues that need to be addressed.

Over the last 7 years or so Britain has become pc to the point that its causing segregation and animosity between different groups as we are not allowed to talk openly about things making us frustrated and in fear of offending certain religions, race, sexualities and so on.

Big Brother is a very powerful platform and to have people actually openly discuss such taboo topics could really change the state of mind of millions of viewers.

This is how BB used to be back in its heyday remember so its sad to see this is seen such an outrageous idea now.
Absolutely not. BB still controlled the house when it was first beginning and rolling in the viewers, shown by the ejection of Nasty Nick. Even if it was a lighter ruled , they didn't try to create situations or try to make fights happen etc.

[T*]

Also, CBB Belgium tried this and put a ex husband and wife in there, and guess what happened? The ex wife walked in less than 1 hour, making the least amount of time stayed by 1 hm in the world.

[Daniel.]

Anything can top secrets and lies thems

Michael was awful

[T*]

I still can't believe they wasted the secrets and lies title on the series, they could've saved to for a series that is secret story..

[Daniel.]

Hmm werent bb6, 7, 9 and most recently 13 classed as contriversial?

There has been lots of things that happened thats not pc, apart from the Emily ejection it hasnt been particularly less contriversial

[Apple202]

urm no it'd flop and be pulled in a week

[reece(:]

Anything can top secrets and lies thems

Michael was awful
It was a joke how it only lasted a week as well

[Daniel.]

And we didnt get to see Sallie relaxing without Michael etc

Tbh I'd be willing to sacrafice Dexter for Sallie

[Jesus.]

The problem, is that a lot of those issues (not all) are down to bigotry, so how many people would want to go on TV and reveal their prejudices to the world, bearing in mind that you could affect all your future employment opportunities, and your family life?

[Loukas]

Also, CBB Belguim tried this and put a ex husband and wife in there, and guess what happened? The ex wife walked in less than 1 hour, making the least amount of time stayed by 1 hm in the world.

really LOL, this made me laugh, especially with you avatar :laugh:

As for the idea, i'm not sure if i like it, if it happened theres like a 99.9% chance that it will end very, very badly!

[Gstar]

that would result in blood, weave and lacefronts on the floor but I'll be here for it. Also the eviction twist is amazing

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Absolutely not. BB still controlled the house when it was first beginning and rolling in the viewers, shown by the ejection of Nasty Nick. Even if it was a lighter ruled , they didn't try to create situations or try to make fights happen etc.

Yes they did lol, they purposely put housemates in who would clash and were from all different backgrounds.

That was the whole point.

Also can you not type all your points in one post instead of spreading them over like 5 seperate ones.

[MTVN]

An absolute disaster waiting to happen, it would be hauled off the air within days and likely be the death of BB in this country, it would make for extremely uncomfortable viewing as well

[T*]

Yes they did lol, they purposely put housemates in who would clash and were from all different backgrounds.

That was the whole point.

Also can you not type all your points in one post instead of spreading them over like 5 seperate ones.

In the first few ones they didn't...
And just face the fact your idea is awful instead of criticising my post structure :thumbs: :smug:

[T*]

really LOL, this made me laugh, especially with you avatar :laugh:

As for the idea, i'm not sure if i like it, if it happened theres like a 99.9% chance that it will end very, very badly!

Why thank you :douf:
Yeah it really happened :joker:

[T*]

You've got the idea of the social experiment all wrong...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

In the first few ones they didn't...
And just face the fact your idea is awful instead of criticising my post structure :thumb: :smug:

It is not an awful idea at all, its pretty much identical to BB5 casting wise. You don't like the idea that's fine but its not a fact that its a bad idea at all.

Its realistic, its real Britain, people we encounter or are debated about in the news everyday and not a house full of people who have been on the x factor or in glamour mags. It would be BB but gritty and political as hell.

[T*]

It is not an awful idea at all, its pretty much identical to BB5 casting wise. You don't like the idea that's fine but its not a fact that its a bad idea at all.

Its realistic, its real Britain, people we encounter or are debated about in the news everyday and not a house full of people who have been on the x factor or in glamour mags. It would be BB but gritty and political as hell.

It's realistic?! Are you having a laugh?!

[zakman440]

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to say no to this one. It just would be an uncomfortable viewing experience, and would probably push C5 to axe it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's realistic?! Are you having a laugh?!

Yes, look at Benefits street that was raw and even though it caused outrage it was a huge hit and people loved it.

Benefits street had racial issues, theft and all the bad qualities you see in todays society resulting in it being discussed on live debates and the news.

Why cant Big Brother do the same?

In my opinion its time for Big Brother to lose this glossy image and grow up now.

That's just me and this is my idea and I understand that someone who has Lisa Simpson as their avatar will obviously have completely different tastes to me. What do you want to see in BB 15?

[reece(:]

And we didnt get to see Sallie relaxing without Michael etc

Tbh I'd be willing to sacrafice Dexter for Sallie
I'd have ditched either for her, Gina simmered down after her first week

[Samm]

It will be like CBB5 all over again but worst

[Glenn.]

The last time there was controversy in BB that made it hit the headlines, the axe began to fall on the show. No one wants to watch racial, homophobic or anything that will cause outrage.

[Marsh.]

It's realistic to have a house full of gays versus homophobes, black people versus racists, religious versus atheists etc? :laugh:

Do they often all gather together in a house to express their views in a heightened environment where someone could end up dead?

There are bigots all over the world but putting them altogether in an enclosed environment to see the fireworks is not representative of "real Britain". Most bigots don't shout their views from the rooftops and some would actually be respectful to the faces of those whose views are opposite to their own.

Like Evanda, he held homophobic views but it didn't make him act completely vile towards them.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The last time there was controversy in BB that made it hit the headlines, the axe began to fall on the show. No one wants to watch racial, homophobic or anything that will cause outrage.

But people are constantly complaining its homophobic, racist, sexist or condones bullying everyday anyway.

Why not give the public a hard dose of reality and show them that they cant use these terms so lightly. They need to see what these things actually are otherwise people will continue to shout the 'ism card over anything and everything.

I think basically its time BB go back to being ground breaking and not afraid to show the nation the type of people who exist in our everyday lives.

Failing that we can sit back and watch glamour models and failed z listers act like trained monkeys to a soundtrack of dubstep every night.

[T*]

That's just me and this is my idea and I understand that someone who has Lisa Simpson as their avatar will obviously have completely different tastes to me. What do you want to see in BB 15?

My avatars totally irrelevant, but, what I want to see in BB15 is normal people with a good theme behind it. I want it to return to the way it was on channel 4.
Channel 5 has made it tacky.

I think your idea is ludicrous, it'd ruin the show. It'd show that they're craving attention, it'd make it tacky.

[T*]

But people are constantly complaining its homophobic, racist, sexist or condones bullying everyday anyway.

Why not give the public a hard dose of reality and show them that they cant use these terms so lightly. They need to see what these things actually are otherwise people will continue to shout the 'ism card over anything and everything.

I think basically its time BB go back to being ground breaking and not afraid to show the nation the type of people who exist in our everyday lives.

Failing that we can sit back and watch glamour models and failed z listers act like trained monkeys to a soundtrack of dubstep every night.

They're not ****ing using these terms lightly!

[T*]

This theme is kind of the equivalent to someone saying "let's put a innocent person in a room with a murderer and some weapons to see what happens"

[Me. I Am Salman]

are you trying to imply bb14 was good

[daniel-lewis-1985]

My avatars totally irrelevant, but, what I want to see in BB15 is normal people with a good theme behind it. I want it to return to the way it was on channel 4.
Channel 5 has made it tacky.

I think your idea is ludicrous, it'd ruin the show. It'd show that they're craving attention, it'd make it tacky.

But you say its already tacky. This idea isn't tacky its as far from tacky and glam as it gets lol. Its very much Channel 4 circa 2004.

Are you trying to tell me honestly BB don't put people in together to clash?

BB on Channel 4 was filled with people purely put in for controversy.

Was Ahmed not put in because he was an immigrant and said he didn't like gays then strangely who walks into the house directly after him? MARCO, a screaming prancing queen and was this not one of the most successful series? YES.

This is what im trying to say, just make BB a lot more serious this year, let go of the gimmicks and put in real controversial characters with extreme views on all sorts of things and no doubt it will be a ratings hit.

All you are saying is you want normal people and for it to go back to the way it was on Channel 4, well how was it on Channel 4 what do you actually want because from what I remember on Channel 4 There were actual punch ups, sex, public masturbation, bullying and some very very un pc behaviour but you seem to be against that from what I gather?

My idea is to simply make BB more political and strike whats hot at the moment, benefits, immigration, homophobia all of this has been big in the news this year and its what the country are talking about.

Basically homophobia surrounding the Olympics in Russia has been a huge talking point so lets get a homophobic Russian in the house lol.

Benefits street has caused outrage so lets get someone whos never worked a day in their life and think that ok in the house.

The whole country were up in arms about the rush of immigrants from Romania this year so lets get a Romanion cleaner for example, someone who has come to work and people complain about even though they wouldn't clean a toilet for a living themselves.

Please stop posting replies to my comments in like 10 different posts because I cant keep responding to them all individually.

[Gstar]

I'm gonna have to agree with Daniel http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar57358_62.gif

[reece(:]

I hope they put in more fierce people though next run, no Sam Evans archetypes please

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm gonna have to agree with Daniel http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar57358_62.gif

;)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I hope they put in more fierce people though next run, no Sam Evans archetypes please

Oh my days totally agree.

No more Sams, Luke A or anyone without a personality. I don't know how these people get through months of auditions without putting the producers into a coma.

[Daniel.]

There will of course be the 'lad' archetype, they need one every year, snooze

Someone like Makosi is needed.

I personally want a diverse cast and not loads of people from London who know each other (like BB14) or the constant boring twists week after week oh and normal diary room nominations not face to face or friend and family

It really is laughable that at the time people were saying how BB14 was like BB on C4 again, cast and production wise. Iit was the series least like C4 ffs

[reece(:]

I think it's funny how in BB14 they were all out saying there would be a diverse age range.. there was one 40+ HM :laugh:

[Daniel.]

Lol true and Jemima who should have stayed longer <3

BB14 just hasn't aged well for me, but at least it gave us Sallie and Hazel <3

[Headie]

It really is laughable that at the time people were saying how BB14 was like BB on C4 again, cast and production wise. Iit was the series least like C4 ffs

If the BB13 cast had been in BB14 with the twists and themes instead, I guarantee it would've been borderline Golden series (BB5/BB6/BB7).

[Daniel.]

It already is a golden series for me and I prefer it without the constant twists, I couldn't imagine the BB13 lot having the safe house most weeks tbh it would just be awful imagine Deana and Conor together or Luke A and Caroline, no doubt entertaining but uncomfortable

I think something BB14 lacked was storyline;s which BB13 did amazingly well with insiders vs outsiders, the main story was 'Gina and Dexter are underdogs' and a few rivlaries and the stupid triangle.

[Mystic Mock]

I must be the only other person who would love a house like this lol.

[uniquedude]

At least its original but I dont like how manipulated it sounds, for me a true social experiment should be a variety of people from different backgrounds and with different values of course but not deliberate so. Needs less people who all say how many women they sleep with or how they get their own way thanks to looks.

Channel 5 needs to be more ballier for one as half the stuff they are calling out as 'ofeensive' or 'racist' is just to cover their own backs in case of a backlash.

[uniquedude]

i dont think any normal C5 series could beat BB14....

BB12 AND BB13 beat it, its so overrated.

[Me. I Am Salman]

There will of course be the 'lad' archetype, they need one every year, snooze

Someone like Makosi is needed.

I personally want a diverse cast and not loads of people from London who know each other (like BB14) or the constant boring twists week after week oh and normal diary room nominations not face to face or friend and family

It really is laughable that at the time people were saying how BB14 was like BB on C4 again, cast and production wise. Iit was the series least like C4 ffs

:worship:

btw Victor, Nadia, Derek, Vanessa, Saskia, Maxwell, Grace, Aisleyne, Sezer, Nikki, Charley, Shabnam, Alexandra, Sylvia, Rex, Sara, Shabby, Heaven, Shievonne, Dan, Jemima, Gina and Dexter were all from London

[uniquedude]

Lol true and Jemima who should have stayed longer <3

BB14 just hasn't aged well for me, but at least it gave us Sallie and Hazel <3

:elephant: I've found someone on the forums that actually agrees Jemima should have stayed, she made week two much like Sallie made week one and they were both throw out. It wasnt good at the time and certainly wont age well either

[Maxxie.]

This idea id waaaaaaay better than the whole twitter/social media thing that they're doing!!!!

[Scream]

Still will be the same because people will say they believe in something and not stand up for it and it always happens in any situation. There's always the dominant people and some people get left behind and become more quiet.

[Gstar]

I can't be bothered reading all that but the secrets and lies theme was **** so they don't have to try hard.

No offence but it takes like 1 minute to read. Don't be so lazy and maybe you can contribute something interesting to the thread then.

drag ha

[armand.kay]

I'm here for this.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Big Brother: Carnage!: Summer 2014

Its time to bring back freedom of speech and finally face all this racist, bullying bull**** and let it play out un edited and raw to the nation.
This concept is extreme but would surely produce the most controversial Civilian Big Brother in a decade.

Are Channel 5 brave enough to do it?

This is a long read but I promise you its a good one if I say so myself. I would love to hear feedback.

So here's the deal

Every housemate will have to live with someone who's values and beliefs in life are highly different to each other.

Wether it be religion, the colour of someone's skin or sexuality no subject should be off the table and it should be uncensored, every little nip slip, racist, religious, homophobic remark should all be left to play out without BB intervening. Nothing is taboo.

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Here's the casting idea

Lets turn things on their head.

Housemate 1: A devout immigrant muslim with a serious bigoted opnion towards the western worlds morals and habits/culture. Its time to see racist attitudes from both sides seeing as we never see white people racially abused when it happens everywhere.

Housemate 2: A white possible Christian girl who thinks immigrants are whats wrong with this country and has a very narrow minded opinion on the muslim community. She is also very bigoted. Lets see who wins in the ever lasting racist row.

Housemate 3: Something we have never seen before a gay guy who is heterophobic and will only associate with his own kind. He supports gay marriage and is passionate about campaigning gay rights. He has a chip on his shoulder and is as stubborn and argumentative as as hell.

Housemate 3/4: A boy and a girl who are very offended by gay people and think their lives are wrong/un natural. They absolutely disagree with gay marriage and rights.

Housemate 5: A homewrecker, someone who broke up a marriage.

Housemate 6: The person who was the victim in that marriage break up.

Housemate 7: A Bulgarin immigrant who is currently being accused of stealing our jobs.

Housemate 8: A man who has recently been made redundant and feels its to do with immigrants taking all the jobs. This man should be unemployed still and be very opinionated.

Housemate 9: A lesbian who loves pretty straight girls and is totally open about it. She has a potty mouth and talks non stop about sex.

Housemate 10: A pretty girl who has led a bit of a sheltered life, she has never met a lesbian in her life. She dislikes people who have had a lot of sexual encounters and wont tolerate repulsive sexual talk.

Housemate 11: A sexist who believes women should not be allowed to have the same rights as men.

Housemate 12: An extreme femmenist whos arch nemesis is any sexist man.

Housemate 13: Someone who comes from a strict amish background who has never had sex or drunk alcohol.

Housemate 14: A very seductive genuinely bisexual gorgeous party girl who loves nothing more than partying, sex and alcohol.

Housemate 15: A tattoed, chav who comes from a very harsh upbringing. She is not on the dole, she is a single mother and has to work her arse off to make ends meet.

Housemate 16: This is housemates 15th father who she hasn't seen since she was a toddler. He will be introduced on day 3 just as everyone is settling down ("Yeah Jackie") and she gets to decide if he becomes a housemate or gets her revenge by kicking him out on his arse come Fridays eviction.
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Could this bring BB back to an actual social experiment?

Yes this will cause alot of drama, offensive uncomfortable viewing but by the end of the series the housemates and the general public could learn a bit more about the subjects and watch them talk open and honestly about their feelings to resolve these issues instead of BB having to call the housemates involved to the diary room incase they are about to say something slightly offensive.

The Ofcom crew complaining at the first opportunity don't realise is that allowing the public to watch real issues happening can only do good as it will cause serious debates around the country and people could actually become more tolerant of people who are different from them and learn about different attitudes towards different cultures and serious issues. The constant complaints about racism/sexism ect is doing more harm than good we need it to play out so we can watch human nature and how good can come from bad situations.

Yes it would appear a manic cast from hell but as the show grows I think it could be one of the deepest darkest yet inspiring ones to date.

Go on Channel 5 just go for it, **** Ofcom and hope for the best from critics, these last 2 series have pushed the boundaries and with something so out there like this we could be looking at the first Channel 5 Civilian BB to average over 2 million.

This would be the only way to get BB back to the social experiment it once was aswell by casting people with real beliefs and issues.

So, whats your thoughts?

you honestly think last year's theme was THAT good and this is the only way it can be topped? :conf2:

way too extreme anyway, I wanna be able to enjoy big brother too. and there is no way in hell they can find 16 people that match all these profiles, and if they do the chance of them all being willing is pretty unlikely. what would are you living in?

terrible idea.

[Denver]

Its ok wanted those type of HM but would they be willing to enter?

[Marsh.]

Something we have never seen before a gay guy who is heterophobic and will only associate with his own kind.

:laugh2:

[Maxxie.]

[QUOTE=daniel-lewis-1985;6740588]Big Brother: Carnage!: Summer 2014

Housemate 3: Something we have never seen before a gay guy who is heterophobic and will only associate with his own kind. He supports gay marriage and is passionate about campaigning gay rights. He has a chip on his shoulder and is as stubborn and argumentative as as hell.

Do those people even exist?!
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[smeagol]

sounds like something that could do as a experiment on another programe would be interesting

i think they bb should never intervene unless something becomes vilolent or intollerable for the housemate. i think they should have freedom to say and air anything. and let the dice roll how they may.
if someone says something dodgy i want to hear it. and i want to hear the reaction to it and any argument it may cause. and plus is will get the press talking big time
bb supresses anything now remotally dodgy. in fact to the point of sillyness. but that kills dead what might of been interesting to watch.

[Toy Soldier]

sounds like something that could do as a experiment on another programe would be interesting

i think they bb should never intervene unless something becomes vilolent or intollerable for the housemate. i think they should have freedom to say and air anything. and let the dice roll how they may.
if someone says something dodgy i want to hear it. and i want to hear the reaction to it and any argument it may cause. and plus is will get the press talking big time
bb supresses anything now remotally dodgy. in fact to the point of sillyness. but that kills dead what might of been interesting to watch.

I agree. I think the premise of the OP is a bit too extreme (deliberately casting extreme people / ensuring people will clash) but I do think that BB should just let situations unfold, even when people are being undeniably obscene or racist or whatever, and only intervene if someone is getting violent or someone clearly looks like they feel physically threatened. Contestants should be warned, clearly, that the things they say and the views they express might well make them "hate figures" and that BB won't be cautioning them or warning them to reign it in... if they have offensive opinions, they might be in there spouting them for weeks, and leave to a life in tatters.

They currently protect people (both the contestants, and the viewers) far too much from "offense". It's boring, and there's no need. If you watch it and find it offensive, change the channel... don't "report it to Ofcom" :sleep:. If you say things that lead to you being hated on exit... well... then that's the consequence of holding those opinions. If you can't handle the opinions of others IN the house, you're free to leave.

So long as the show isn't edited in an unfair way to portray people badly, and is truly representative of events in the house (like the early series were... last couple of years, not so much) then that's the way it should be. Let's see the real people - warts n' all - not completely invented "characters" and people suppressing themselves.

[Maxxie.]

Big Brother: Carnage!: Summer 2014

Its time to bring back freedom of speech and finally face all this racist, bullying bull**** and let it play out un edited and raw to the nation.
This concept is extreme but would surely produce the most controversial Civilian Big Brother in a decade.

Are Channel 5 brave enough to do it?

This is a long read but I promise you its a good one if I say so myself. I would love to hear feedback.

So here's the deal

Every housemate will have to live with someone who's values and beliefs in life are highly different to each other.

Wether it be religion, the colour of someone's skin or sexuality no subject should be off the table and it should be uncensored, every little nip slip, racist, religious, homophobic remark should all be left to play out without BB intervening. Nothing is taboo.

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Here's the casting idea

Lets turn things on their head.

Housemate 1: A devout immigrant muslim with a serious bigoted opnion towards the western worlds morals and habits/culture. Its time to see racist attitudes from both sides seeing as we never see white people racially abused when it happens everywhere.

Housemate 2: A white possible Christian girl who thinks immigrants are whats wrong with this country and has a very narrow minded opinion on the muslim community. She is also very bigoted. Lets see who wins in the ever lasting racist row.

Housemate 3: Something we have never seen before a gay guy who is heterophobic and will only associate with his own kind. He supports gay marriage and is passionate about campaigning gay rights. He has a chip on his shoulder and is as stubborn and argumentative as as hell.

Housemate 3/4: A boy and a girl who are very offended by gay people and think their lives are wrong/un natural. They absolutely disagree with gay marriage and rights.

Housemate 5: A homewrecker, someone who broke up a marriage.

Housemate 6: The person who was the victim in that marriage break up.

Housemate 7: A Bulgarin immigrant who is currently being accused of stealing our jobs.

Housemate 8: A man who has recently been made redundant and feels its to do with immigrants taking all the jobs. This man should be unemployed still and be very opinionated.

Housemate 9: A lesbian who loves pretty straight girls and is totally open about it. She has a potty mouth and talks non stop about sex.

Housemate 10: A pretty girl who has led a bit of a sheltered life, she has never met a lesbian in her life. She dislikes people who have had a lot of sexual encounters and wont tolerate repulsive sexual talk.

Housemate 11: A sexist who believes women should not be allowed to have the same rights as men.

Housemate 12: An extreme femmenist whos arch nemesis is any sexist man.

Housemate 13: Someone who comes from a strict amish background who has never had sex or drunk alcohol.

Housemate 14: A very seductive genuinely bisexual gorgeous party girl who loves nothing more than partying, sex and alcohol.

Housemate 15: A tattoed, chav who comes from a very harsh upbringing. She is not on the dole, she is a single mother and has to work her arse off to make ends meet.

Housemate 16: This is housemates 15th father who she hasn't seen since she was a toddler. He will be introduced on day 3 just as everyone is settling down ("Yeah Jackie") and she gets to decide if he becomes a housemate or gets her revenge by kicking him out on his arse come Fridays eviction.
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Could this bring BB back to an actual social experiment?

Yes this will cause alot of drama, offensive uncomfortable viewing but by the end of the series the housemates and the general public could learn a bit more about the subjects and watch them talk open and honestly about their feelings to resolve these issues instead of BB having to call the housemates involved to the diary room incase they are about to say something slightly offensive.

The Ofcom crew complaining at the first opportunity don't realise is that allowing the public to watch real issues happening can only do good as it will cause serious debates around the country and people could actually become more tolerant of people who are different from them and learn about different attitudes towards different cultures and serious issues. The constant complaints about racism/sexism ect is doing more harm than good we need it to play out so we can watch human nature and how good can come from bad situations.

Yes it would appear a manic cast from hell but as the show grows I think it could be one of the deepest darkest yet inspiring ones to date.

Go on Channel 5 just go for it, **** Ofcom and hope for the best from critics, these last 2 series have pushed the boundaries and with something so out there like this we could be looking at the first Channel 5 Civilian BB to average over 2 million.

This would be the only way to get BB back to the social experiment it once was aswell by casting people with real beliefs and issues.

So, whats your thoughts?

Out of those housemates, who would actually win?! None of them seem very likeable :/

[Rob!]

Out of those housemates, who would actually win?! None of them seem very likeable :/

Well one of them would have to. BB6 managed to find a winner despite the fact that the majority of them (including the winner) were total arseholes.