Street angels

[Kizzy]

Street angels are volunteers that aid people in many city centres who are too drunk to get themselves home, what are your thoughts on them? Have you ever been helped by one? Seriously considering signing up.

'Street Angels Leeds
Usually on Street Angels the first half of the night is really quiet. We walk around and chat to the door staff and we chat to revellers too around the city centre however tonight was a very different story. Just after we got going after 10 o'clock we started getting calls on the radio asking for our help. It was a busy night, we helped several people who were unconscious or not able to walk - we got them into ambulances or taxis and helped to save them from being assaulted or just on their own, stranded in the centre.

So many people get abandoned by their friends on a night out it's really difficult to understand why. Leeds - please make sure you stay with your friends throughout a night out - check where they are, call them or text if you have to - its not very nice when people are left on their own often with no handbag, no mobile phone and sometimes so drunk that they are unable to even say where they live, we had that tonight.

When you go out stay together and have fun'

http://leedsstreetangels.org.uk/

[Kazanne]

it sounds a really good idea on paper Kizzy and a kind one on behalf of the 'angel' but what if one of them turned on you?you just never know with people who are drunk which way they will go,so don't you be signing up we don't want you hurt.I suppose it's too much to ask for people to drink sensibly? yes I thought so:hugesmile:

[Kizzy]

I know but with 3 unis Leeds can get very messy :laugh: Don't worry I'll be fine, I'm a night owl anyway and think how good it'll look when I apply next year?

[Josy]

I agree with what Kazanne said, sounds like a nice thing to do, looks good on paper and a lot of the people helped would probably be grateful but then threres always a few that would get nasty so yeah there's some dangers involved.

[arista]

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"We are a Christian project"

Its a just a cover for a bunch of christians thinking they are being "godly" by helping people who are "drunk" so they can "save" them

Awful.

[Kizzy]

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

Same as always I just set my aura to 'deflect' arista :joker:

[Kizzy]

"We are a Christian project"

Its a just a cover for a bunch of christians thinking they are being "godly" by helping people who are "drunk" so they can "save" them

Awful.

I'm not a christian, It's not mandatory.

[Z]

I think you'd have to have a suicide wish to do this up in Aberdeen :laugh: but it's a very good idea

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm not a christian, It's not mandatory.

No neither is going to church.

If you want to make a difference join the police

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think you'd have to have a suicide wish to do this up in Aberdeen :laugh: but it's a very good idea

They are just a pain for the police

[Z]

No neither is going to church.

If you want to make a difference join the police

If you have an overwhelming love of doing paperwork and not very much policing then join the police.

[Kazanne]

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

arista ! you'll just have to control yourself:hugesmile:

[Z]

They are just a pain for the police

In what way are they a pain for the police? The police have better things to be doing than checking if the passed out guy in the doorway is still conscious; like separating the drunk guy who's trying to batter the other drunk guy for looking at him funny

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you have an overwhelming love of doing paperwork and not very much policing then join the police.

That is a pretty stereotypical view that is inaccurate. paperwork is much less now due to the digital age but good records are very important.






Especially when fitting people up:devil:

[Z]

That is a pretty stereotypical view that is inaccurate. paperwork is much less now due to the digital age but good records are very important.






Especially when fitting people up:devil:

It's well documented (way hey hey) that the police spend more time filing reports than they actually do out on the streets. Incident reports are time consuming.

[Kizzy]

I have a degree in Public Services so I could join the police.... but I also have a CCJ so I can't :laugh:
I don't think you know much about them trumpet, they are welcomed by the police, well in Leeds they are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have a degree in Public Services so I could join the police.... but I also have a CCJ so I can't :laugh:
I don't think you know much about them trumpet, they are welcomed by the police, well in Leeds they are.

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

[Z]

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

Why is it arrogant nonsense? Do you not think deaths like that girl who fell off the bridge and drowned the other month are totally avoidable and something like Street Angels can help to reduce accidents like that from happening? And does it really matter if people are only doing it to make themselves feel better? They're still helping others.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is it arrogant nonsense? Do you not think deaths like that girl who fell off the bridge and drowned the other month are totally avoidable and something like Street Angels can help to reduce accidents like that from happening? And does it really matter if people are only doing it to make themselves feel better? They're still helping others.

What the feck are you on about? To link that poor girls death to some point about SA is ridiculous :nono:


I question if they are helping anyone. Who decides if someone is drunk? Do they want help, do they want some middle aged berk telling them about some made up claptrap about some god who will help them but watch 20,000 children die of hunger 365 days a year?

Its just too silly and is more about assuaging their christian guilt than helping anyone

in my opinion

[Kizzy]

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

How many people do you know who do it, and where do they do it....are they christian?
As I stated earlier I'm not. I don't want to 'save' people, just assist them if they're too intoxicated and or alone. What could be perceived as arrogant about that? I have been in that position before myself and believe me a friendly face would have been most welcome.

[Crimson Dynamo]

How many people do you know who do it, and where do they do it....are they christian?
As I stated earlier I'm not. I don't want to 'save' people, just assist them if they're too intoxicated and or alone. What could be perceived as arrogant about that? I have been in that position before myself and believe me a friendly face would have been most welcome.

So how will you decide on who is so pissed that they need help or who is alone and needs help?

[Kizzy]

What the feck are you on about? To link that poor girls death to some point about SA is ridiculous :nono:


I question if they are helping anyone. Who decides if someone is drunk? Do they want help, do they want some middle aged berk telling them about some made up claptrap about some god who will help them but watch 20,000 children die of hunger 365 days a year?

Its just too silly and is more about assuaging their christian guilt than helping anyone

in my opinion

For the third time I am not a christian or a middle aged berk thankyou very much, zee is totally right in suggesting that her death could have been avoided if she had been identified as being at risk and at least escorted over the bridge.

[Crimson Dynamo]

For the third time I am not a christian or a middle aged berk thankyou very much, zee is totally right in suggesting that her death could have been avoided if she had been identified as being at risk and at least escorted over the bridge.

And how would you have identified her as being at risk, its a theory that she fell in pissed but she could have tripped and fell or just jumped which is also very likely. Are you intending to stop everyone who goes over a bridge or just the ones who "look suicidal"?

[Kizzy]

So how will you decide on who is so pissed that they need help or who is alone and needs help?


'We patrol the city – centre from 10pm – 3am every Friday night, and we commit to being part of the team at least once a month.
We work in pairs and walk around the busy areas of the city wearing our hi – vis jackets. We build relationships with doorstaff, police and medical teams, and chat with people who are out and about.
We carry resources which help people out such as flip flops & water bottles, we give directions, help to reunite people with friends and/or possessions and aim to help people get home safely at the end of the night.
In particular we care for those who may have become vulnerable in the nightlife for any number of reasons.'

[Crimson Dynamo]

'We patrol the city – centre from 10pm – 3am every Friday night, and we commit to being part of the team at least once a month.
We work in pairs and walk around the busy areas of the city wearing our hi – vis jackets. We build relationships with doorstaff, police and medical teams, and chat with people who are out and about.
We carry resources which help people out such as flip flops & water bottles, we give directions, help to reunite people with friends and/or possessions and aim to help people get home safely at the end of the night.
In particular we care for those who may have become vulnerable in the nightlife for any number of reasons.'

In other words sweet FA :joker:

[Kizzy]

How is that sweet FA, IF you get a girl off the floor and in a taxi home is that not something?

[Crimson Dynamo]

How is that sweet FA, IF you get a girl off the floor and in a taxi home is that not something?

What girl, where?

[Kazanne]

What girl, where?

Now your just being silly.

[Livia]

I find the name a little self-indulgent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If their parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece that should be sufficient. Just who are they targeting and what do they think about todays youth?

I mean handing out flipflops is about as sickeningly happy clappy as I have heard.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I find the name a little self-indulgent.

Ghetto Grannies was taken :bawling:

[Kizzy]

If their parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece that should be sufficient. Just who are they targeting and what do they think about todays youth?

I mean handing out flipflops is about as sickeningly happy clappy as I have heard.

Parents... now who's coming across as a hand wringer?
I would still consider it worthwhile, I appreciate you don't.

[Z]

What the feck are you on about? To link that poor girls death to some point about SA is ridiculous :nono:


I question if they are helping anyone. Who decides if someone is drunk? Do they want help, do they want some middle aged berk telling them about some made up claptrap about some god who will help them but watch 20,000 children die of hunger 365 days a year?

Its just too silly and is more about assuaging their christian guilt than helping anyone

in my opinion

No it's not. If there were sober people about in the early hours of the morning whose job is specifically to make sure people who are too drunk to look after themselves get home in one piece, there's every chance deaths like that one could have been avoided. Yes, they are helping people. If somebody can barely stand up without support and has no idea where they are, they're evidently going to need help getting home. What happens when there's no one to help them? Why do you assume it's a "middle aged berk telling them up some made up claptrap about god"? Why isn't it a group of young people looking out for other young people and just making sure they get home? You're confusing religious preaching with assisting drunk people in getting home. Why does it bother you so much if somebody's doing it for their own Christian beliefs? If it helps them sleep at night and helps someone else get home at night then I don't really see what the issue is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Parents... now who's coming across as a hand wringer?
I would still consider it worthwhile, I appreciate you don't.

Im not having a go at you Kizzy but having seen these people in action I just question the need and motive. How do they select who to help, what is the real reason for them doing this at silly o'clock at the weekend?

We have police and ambulances for the real problems and everyone else just goes home, its a system that has worked for many years. They see young people drinking as corrupt and in need of saving .:conf:

[Z]

If their parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece that should be sufficient. Just who are they targeting and what do they think about todays youth?

I mean handing out flipflops is about as sickeningly happy clappy as I have heard.

Not everyone is an 18 year old going out on the town for the first time, living at home with their parents. Bad things can happen to you when you're drunk regardless of your age. Falling into the road and being hit by a car; falling off a bridge; getting into a fight; being sexually assaulted - the list goes on and on. They are targeting drunk people, you know perfectly well what the point of this is. If somebody's parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece, that's fine, but that doesn't always happen. Having a team of people looking out for potentially dangerous situations and making sure they don't happen is a good thing in my opinion. It's got nothing to do with judging "today's youth" and everything to do with safety. They could just as easily be looking out for a 40 something year old guy who's been in the pub and had way too much to drink, maybe he's been chucked out of the pub.

As for the flip flops thing - that would be for young women who wear high heels to clubs and then their feet hurt so they take their shoes off when they're walking around town and risk stepping in broken glass, vomit etc. You're being obtuse for the sake of it.

[Z]

Im not having a go at you Kizzy but having seen these people in action I just question the need and motive. How do they select who to help, what is the real reason for them doing this at silly o'clock at the weekend?

We have police and ambulances for the real problems and everyone else just goes home, its a system that has worked for many years. They see young people drinking as corrupt and in need of saving .:conf:

They want to help. Is that so hard to believe? They don't "select" people like it's some complicated process, it's just having pairs of fresh eyes patrolling the town making sure that people are okay. I've been assaulted twice by drunk people, neither times were my fault, both times were on main streets in the city centre. The police can't be everywhere. The police deal with crimes, not people who've had too much to drink, unless they're being problematic. A girl slumped in a doorway isn't going to be as pressing an issue to the police as the fight breaking out up the road - but an opportune mugging, rape, or even murder could just as easily occur as soon as the police pass that girl by. "Street Angels" are looking out for people, that's all there is to it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not everyone is an 18 year old going out on the town for the first time, living at home with their parents. Bad things can happen to you when you're drunk regardless of your age. Falling into the road and being hit by a car; falling off a bridge; getting into a fight; being sexually assaulted - the list goes on and on. They are targeting drunk people, you know perfectly well what the point of this is. If somebody's parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece, that's fine, but that doesn't always happen. Having a team of people looking out for potentially dangerous situations and making sure they don't happen is a good thing in my opinion. It's got nothing to do with judging "today's youth" and everything to do with safety. They could just as easily be looking out for a 40 something year old guy who's been in the pub and had way too much to drink, maybe he's been chucked out of the pub.

As for the flip flops thing - that would be for young women who wear high heels to clubs and then their feet hurt so they take their shoes off when they're walking around town and risk stepping in broken glass, vomit etc. You're being obtuse for the sake of it.


Ok so define for me a drunk person? Do you mean someone in the actual gutter or do you mean someone swaying a little, or do you mean someone who looks a bit to one side or so you mean someone who is walking down the street with a traffic one on their head...what?

and how do you know that about women's feet?

I am not being obtuse I am just not agreeing with you so keep personal stuff out of the thread.

[Z]

Ok so define for me a drunk person? Do you mean someone in the actual gutter or do you mean someone swaying a little, or do you mean someone who looks a bit to one side or so you mean someone who is walking down the street with a traffic one on their head...what?

and how do you know that about women's feet?

I am not being obtuse I am just not agreeing with you so keep personal stuff out of the thread.

Someone in the gutter. Not someone who's clearly capable of walking, getting into a taxi and going on their way. There's a binge drinking problem in the UK and if you step into the city centre of any city in the UK at night you're likely to see people who are completely incapable of handling their drink.

Common sense.

I'm not being personal, I'm explaining exactly what these people do and you're deliberately trying to find flaws with something that just simply isn't flawed whatsoever. These aren't religious preachers trying to convert people to Christianity while they're drunk. They're just a group of people looking after people who need to be looked after.

[Josy]

Im not having a go at you Kizzy but having seen these people in action I just question the need and motive. How do they select who to help, what is the real reason for them doing this at silly o'clock at the weekend?

We have police and ambulances for the real problems and everyone else just goes home, its a system that has worked for many years. They see young people drinking as corrupt and in need of saving .:conf:

Everyone else doesn't just go home though, some people get so drunk when they are out at the weekends they end up coming up of clubs and pubs and lying in the street throwing up and this isn't just young people so these street angels could help get them into a taxi and home and then police don't need to waste precious time escorting them back to the stations for the night and then ending up charging them with a d&d, girls go out to a club wearing impossibly high heeled shoes and then when they are drunk can't walk on them so the flip flops idea is a pretty good one, saves them walking home barefoot and standing on glass, nails and who knows what else.

I don't agree with getting so messed up on alcohol that you can't look after yourself, get home etc but a lot of people do it every week so even though I still think like I posted previously that there are dangers involved in volunteering for this king of thing, it still is a pretty good idea to help people that are worse for wear.

[MTVN]

I'm amazed its something anyone would voluntarily do but fair play to them for it, even if you think its a bit silly so what really, not like people will be forced to take their help so I dont see the problem

Rather be accosted by a street angel than someone looking to stick me in the drunk tank :rant:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Everyone else doesn't just go home though, some people get so drunk when they are out at the weekends they end up coming up of clubs and pubs and lying in the street throwing up and this isn't just young people so these street angels could help get them into a taxi and home and then police don't need to waste precious time escorting them back to the stations for the night and then ending up charging them with a d&d, girls go out to a club wearing impossibly high heeled shoes and then when they are drunk can't walk on them so the flip flops idea is a pretty good one, saves them walking home barefoot and standing on glass, nails and who knows what else.

I don't agree with getting so messed up on alcohol that you can't look after yourself, get home etc but a lot of people do it every week so even though I still think like I posted previously that there are dangers involved in volunteering for this king of thing, it still is a pretty good idea to help people that are worse for wear.

I dont really think the girls that you are alluding too will be happy wearing flip flops when they are pissed and coming out of a club nor do I think that an untrained "street christian" should be trying to deal with mortally drunk men - that is a job for a pro and not some do-gooder.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm amazed its something anyone would voluntarily do but fair play to them for it, even if you think its a bit silly so what really, not like people will be forced to take their help so I dont see the problem

Rather be accosted by a street angel than someone looking to stick me in the drunk tank :rant:

Drunk tanks are a good idea and it would probably do you good :nono:

[Josy]

I dont really think the girls that you are alluding too will be happy wearing flip flops when they are pissed and coming out of a club nor do I think that an untrained "street christian" should be trying to deal with mortally drunk men - that is a job for a pro and not some do-gooder.

Well I think you are wrong in those thoughts I'm afraid, and I'm pretty sure a lot of girls would be grateful for those flip flops rather than stumble home drunk in bare feet walking on who knows what.

And referring to them as untrained street Christians is ridiculous, they are probably shown how to deal with the more common scenarios before going out onto the street and you don't have to be a Christian to volunteer as I'm sure you are perfectly aware since it's already been pointed out in the thread.

[Vicky.]

I think its bloody disgraceful that people cant just watch what they drink and end up in such a state that people like this are needed. Its not hard to stop, you know when you have had too much, so just...stop drinking instead of keep going til you pass out/vomit :shrug:

It sounds a decent enough idea but you wouldnt catch me dead doing this tbh. I work with drunks and know how damn nasty they can get in an instant. No way would I be doing it for free. No doubt you will get a massive headache if you knock one of them out when they go for you...its just not worth it

[arista]

I'm amazed its something anyone would voluntarily do but fair play to them for it, even if you think its a bit silly so what really, not like people will be forced to take their help so I dont see the problem

Rather be accosted by a street angel than someone looking to stick me in the drunk tank :rant:



yes but the Drunk Tank
is a Shock
and it helps you improve

[arista]

I think its bloody disgraceful that people cant just watch what they drink and end up in such a state that people like this are needed. Its not hard to stop, you know when you have had too much, so just...stop drinking instead of keep going til you pass out/vomit :shrug:

It sounds a decent enough idea but you wouldnt catch me dead doing this tbh. I work with drunks and know how damn nasty they can get in an instant. No way would I be doing it for free. No doubt you will get a massive headache if you knock one of them out when they go for you...its just not worth it


Yes I blame the parents

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well I think you are wrong in those thoughts I'm afraid, and I'm pretty sure a lot of girls would be grateful for those flip flops rather than stumble home drunk in bare feet walking on who knows what.

And referring to them as untrained street Christians is ridiculous, they are probably shown how to deal with the more common scenarios before going out onto the street and you don't have to be a Christian to volunteer as I'm sure you are perfectly aware since it's already been pointed out in the thread.

Yes and as I pointed out you dont have to be christian to go to church but when you are there you will not be surprised to find that its a wee teeny bit religious

The amount of girls who walk home in bare feet amid the vomit and broken glass of you and Zee's imaginary city must be minuscule (I have only seen this in films)

and you say they are shown how to deal with the common scenarios? by who - a priest, members of the guild, the head of Beavers?

My point is that in principle it sounds good but in practice its just a token gesture and the morality is highly suspect.

and the name stinks as L said

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes but the Drunk Tank
is a Shock
and it helps you improve

Good call A

common sense at last :spin:

[Z]

I dont really think the girls that you are alluding too will be happy wearing flip flops when they are pissed and coming out of a club nor do I think that an untrained "street christian" should be trying to deal with mortally drunk men - that is a job for a pro and not some do-gooder.

Many girls I know take flat shoes in their handbags with them on nights out to change into at the end of the night. Girls wear high heels to look good, not for comfort - when you're not so steady on your feet, you need comfortable shoes to walk in. Clearly you don't see the point in the concept but many others have been able to point out the benefits of having such a team. There are no disadvantages.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Many girls I know take flat shoes in their handbags with them on nights out to change into at the end of the night. Girls wear high heels to look good, not for comfort - when you're not so steady on your feet, you need comfortable shoes to walk in. Clearly you don't see the point in the concept but many others have been able to point out the benefits of having such a team. There are no disadvantages.

No they have not. No one can tell me how they identify people to help apart from perchance seeing a drunk Geordie girl in bare feet. :conf:

[Josy]

Yes and as I pointed out you dont have to be christian to go to church but when you are there you will not be surprised to find that its a wee teeny bit religious

The amount of girls who walk home in bare feet amid the vomit and broken glass of you and Zee's imaginary city must be minuscule (I have only seen this in films)

and you say they are shown how to deal with the common scenarios? by who - a priest, members of the guild, the head of Beavers?

My point is that in principle it sounds good but in practice its just a token gesture and the morality is highly suspect.

and the name stinks as L said

The figures since these Street Angel volunteers have started render your argument invalid.

The Halifax Street Angels for example have been running since 2005, they provide training, including first aid.

And tons of girls walk home barefoot at the weekend whether you choose to believe it or not.

[Vicky.]

Yes I blame the parents

I don't really..given that having seen a LOT of drunk people in my time, the worst ones seem to be (from my experience) middle aged/older people. Seems a bit daft blaming their parents when they have likely been away from them for what...20 years or more?

[AnnieK]

Every time I go out, I come home bare foot....I'm never mortally drunk, just in frigging agony usually. They have a scheme like this in Manchester, I've never seen them but appear ardently they do good work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't really..given that having seen a LOT of drunk people in my time, the worst ones seem to be (from my experience) middle aged/older people. Seems a bit daft blaming their parents when they have likely been away from them for what...20 years or more?

They probably are parents themselves so you can actually blame the parents

[Vicky.]

I am guilty of having walked home with no shoes on D:

I wasn't ridiculously pissed though, I had got a blister on the back of my heel off the shoes that seemed comfy enough when I went out...and I would rather take the risk of standing on a bit of glass than put up with the pain of the blister rubbing :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Every time I go out, I come home bare foot....I'm never mortally drunk, just in frigging agony usually. They have a scheme like this in Manchester, I've never seen them but appear ardently they do good work.

Did you avoid the vomit and broken glass?

[Josy]

I am guilty of having walked home with no shoes on D:

I wasn't ridiculously pissed though, I had got a blister on the back of my heel off the shoes that seemed comfy enough when I went out...and I would rather take the risk of standing on a bit of glass than put up with the pain of the blister rubbing :laugh:

I have done it a couple of times too, just like you though not because I was too pissed too walk on my heels but due to blisters and sore feet.

[Z]

No they have not. No one can tell me how they identify people to help apart from perchance seeing a drunk Geordie girl in bare feet. :conf:

I've already told you. Somebody who is so drunk they can't stand. That's the level of drunk they'd be looking to help in the first instance. They see someone who's so drunk that they can't walk themselves into a taxi or tell the taxi driver where they're going and go and help that person home. There is nothing difficult to comprehend about that. There is no system for deciding who does and doesn't need help, they're just going off of their instincts and looking around to see who's a cause for concern. With things like the flip flops, they'd be standing near clubs handing them out to girls who aren't even necessarily that drunk but are grateful for the flat shoes to walk in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The figures since these Street Angel volunteers have started render your argument invalid.

The Halifax Street Angels for example have been running since 2005, they provide training, including first aid.

And tons of girls walk home barefoot at the weekend whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you can tell me how many converts they have achieved I may acquiesce slightly but telling me they have done some first aid in a draughty church hall like dads army did aint gonna cut it.

[AnnieK]

Did you avoid the vomit and broken glass?

Of course....my feet are usually filthy though :laugh: I'm not organised enough to take flat shoes with

[Crimson Dynamo]

I've already told you. Somebody who is so drunk they can't stand. That's the level of drunk they'd be looking to help in the first instance. They see someone who's so drunk that they can't walk themselves into a taxi or tell the taxi driver where they're going and go and help that person home. There is nothing difficult to comprehend about that. There is no system for deciding who does and doesn't need help, they're just going off of their instincts and looking around to see who's a cause for concern. With things like the flip flops, they'd be standing near clubs handing them out to girls who aren't even necessarily that drunk but are grateful for the flat shoes to walk in.

So they are targeting mortally drunk men who cannot stand who would otherwise die and barefoot geordies.

Where do i sign?:dog:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Of course....my feet are usually filthy though :laugh: I'm not organised enough to take flat shoes with

can i offer you a flip flop?

you know, one of the easiest of footwear to walk in at night in the rain when you have had a few?

or will you stick to barefeet which is much quicker an easier?

[Josy]

If you can tell me how many converts they have achieved I may acquiesce slightly but telling me they have done some first aid in a draughty church hall like dads army did aint gonna cut it.

You can find out any information you need online.

[Z]

So they are targeting mortally drunk men who cannot stand who would otherwise die and barefoot geordies.

Where do i sign?:dog:

:xyxwave:

[Kizzy]

I've been pissed paralytic on the floor, lost my shoes/bag/phone, been attacked, nearly got in a taxi that wasn't a taxi.... twice.
yes it was silly and irresponsible, people can be.

[King Gizzard]

My mum does it sometimes with her church, they're not intrusive with their beliefs, they just get on with the job and help people out, of course there is going to be that sort of religious chat if someone asks though

[Cherie]

Can't see the problem with this myself. People do get drunk, sometimes without meaning to, you can have the same amount of alcohol two nights running and have a completely different reaction to it, if people want to go out of they way at night and volunteer freely to help strangers (whatever their religious beliefs), this has to be a good thing, and if they only stop one from being raped or worse, or falling into the street and getting hit by a moving vehicle, I can't really see why anyone would disagree with anyone for doing it or want them to stop. If they were hustling the people they helped for cash it would be different which is the idea behind drunk tanks I believe.

[Vicky.]

Can't see the problem with this myself. People do get drunk, sometimes without meaning to, you can have the same amount of alcohol two nights running and have a completely different reaction to it, if people want to go out of they way at night and volunteer freely to help strangers (whatever their religious beliefs), this has to be a good thing, and if they only stop one from being raped or worse, or falling into the street and getting hit by a moving vehicle, I can't really see why anyone would disagree with anyone else it or want them to stop. If they were hustling the people they helped for cash it would be different which is the idea behind drunk tanks I believe.

Yup, this is very true. Drunk tanks are about the fines, not helping people.

[Cherie]

I've been pissed paralytic on the floor, lost my shoes/bag/phonee, been attacked, nearly got in a taxi that wasn't a taxi.... twice.
yes it was silly and irresponsible, people can b.



yes we can't all be saints :laugh: I was terrible in my youth for getting legless and I lived in London and put myself in some very dangerous situations but managed to get through unscathed others aren't so lucky.

[Vicky.]

I wouldnt say knowing your limits was being a saint personally :shrug:

Maybe everyones not like me, but I know as soon as I need to stop/slow down. If we still have a few hours left of the night I will drink pop/water for half an hour or so then have a bit more alcohol if I fancy it. Even as a kid I have never got so drunk that I was sick (excluding hungover, which happened once) or passed out

[arista]

I've been pissed paralytic on the floor, lost my shoes/bag/phone, been attacked, nearly got in a taxi that wasn't a taxi.... twice.
yes it was silly and irresponsible, people can be.


and now you help others


Thats Good

[Cherie]

I wouldnt say knowing your limits was being a saint personally :shrug:

Maybe everyones not like me, but I know as soon as I need to stop/slow down. If we still have a few hours left of the night I will drink pop/water for half an hour or so then have a bit more alcohol if I fancy it. Even as a kid I have never got so drunk that I was sick (excluding hungover, which happened once) or passed out

knowing your limits is fine but if you are mixing your drinks or drinking something you normally don't drink or drinking on an empty stomach it is easy to get pissed without actually realising it. I was never one to be sick but I have had nights where I couldn't actually remember getting home. The shame of it!

[Cherie]

and now you help others


Thats Good

Saint Kizzy of Leeds City Centre.



(disclaimer, only on weekends, other cities are available).

[Ammi]

...in reply to the OP...Kizzy, I do sometimes go out with a friend who does it and she’s done it for lots of years, it’s something that the local church organise...one of the first things I asked her was whether she felt safe or if she had ever felt threatened/intimidated in any way and she said no and whenever I’ve been out with her, I honestly haven’t either..not one single time..everyone I’ve met has always been very friendly and I’ve always felt completely safe and actually enjoyed it...(very tired the next day though, but you’re probably much more of a night owl than I am..)....

[Kizzy]

Saint Kizzy of Leeds City Centre.



(disclaimer, only on weekends, other cities are available).

Yes everyone build an altar! :worship:

[Crimson Dynamo]

...in reply to the OP...Kizzy, I do sometimes go out with a friend who does it and she’s done it for lots of years, it’s something that the local church organise...one of the first things I asked her was whether she felt safe or if she had ever felt threatened/intimidated in any way and she said no and whenever I’ve been out with her, I honestly haven’t either..not one single time..everyone I’ve met has always been very friendly and I’ve always felt completely safe and actually enjoyed it...(very tired the next day though, but you’re probably much more of a night owl than I am..)....

So to be clear

What service are u providing and are u evangelising?

[Ammi]

So to be clear

What service are u providing and are u evangelising?

...I probably personally know around 50% or so of the people who are on a night out and lots of others, I know people who they also know so we pretty much just talk about what they're up to in their lives now etc and people that we both know...I'm not an 'angel', I sometimes go with a friend who is but she never 'preaches' any of her faith to anyone unless she's asked about it..I don't personally know anyone who does tbh ...we make sure that they have someone to go home with if they are part of a group or that they get into their taxi ok, because some of them have difficulties with that sometimes ...offer them water etc...

[Marsh.]

"We are a Christian project"

Its a just a cover for a bunch of christians thinking they are being "godly" by helping people who are "drunk" so they can "save" them

Awful.

That is a pretty stereotypical view that is inaccurate. paperwork is much less now due to the digital age but good records are very important.

:joker:

[Cherie]

:joker:

Marsh :joker:

[Kizzy]

Street Angels Application Form
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If you have any further questions at this point, please do not hesitate to get in touch at: hello@leedsstreetangels.org.uk

Whoop! :D
And don't worry LT, if you find yourself on your arse drunk in Leeds ... I'll just walk on by with my flip flops :hmph:

[Z]

Well done Kizzy :D and good luck!!

[Vicky.]

Cheeky bastards checking references for an unpaid position :bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

bIHF4rVTK4E

[Kazanne]

Street Angels Application Form
Thank you for your application to be part of Street Angels Leeds. We will send for your references and be in touch when they have been received.

If you have any further questions at this point, please do not hesitate to get in touch at: hello@leedsstreetangels.org.uk

Whoop! :D
And don't worry LT, if you find yourself on your arse drunk in Leeds ... I'll just walk on by with my flip flops :hmph:

:joker: That's it Kizzy,kick him to the curb:hugesmile: anyway good for you Kizzy just be bloody careful.

[Kizzy]

I will don't worry, I haven't been accepted yet.. how hard can it be to be a roaming middle aged vigilante? :joker:

[Jesus.]

Cheeky bastards checking references for an unpaid position :bored:

You're dealing with vulnerable people, so it's the very least that should be required.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're dealing with vulnerable people, so it's the very least that should be required.


They are not vulnerable they are apparently drunk and incapable of somehow getting home..

some have vomit and broken glass on their feet:whistle:

[Kizzy]

They are not vulnerable they are apparently drunk and incapable of somehow getting home..

some have vomit and broken glass on their feet:whistle:

I think you have me down as some tambourine banging WI member.. That's not the case at all.
Even the third sector have to be vetted, and they have an important role to play as part of a muilti-agency approach to maintaining safety.
I have noted you don't feel they are beneficial.

[Cherie]

Cheeky bastards checking references for an unpaid position :bored:

I think it is fair enough to be vetted, at the very least they are going to be paired with someone else so they need to know that person will be safe! never mind the people they will eventually help.

[Kizzy]

Knowing my luck my partner will be this guy..
http://cigaretteburnscinema.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/x_man_with_x_ray_eyes1.jpg

[Marsh.]

I will don't worry, I haven't been accepted yet.. how hard can it be to be a roaming middle aged vigilante? :joker:

:laugh2:
Is there a costume?

[Marsh.]

http://cltampa.com/images/blogimages/2011/04/21/1303367807-super.jpg

[Cherie]

Knowing my luck my partner will be this guy..
http://cigaretteburnscinema.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/x_man_with_x_ray_eyes1.jpg

http://cltampa.com/images/blogimages/2011/04/21/1303367807-super.jpg


:laugh:

[Kizzy]

:laugh2:
Is there a costume?

Yes but brooms are optional...
http://31.media.tumblr.com/89024d3f63ef4944a0ebca0619b79d62/tumblr_mstmvxxmQJ1s5k9r5o1_500.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/363/3/c/dominatrix_by_valentinakallias-d35xb7j.jpg


Norfolk Street Angels Chapter official uniform

Chapter motto: "you've been a naughty boy, now its time to pay (for your taxi home)"

[Z]

Knowing my luck my partner will be this guy..
http://cigaretteburnscinema.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/x_man_with_x_ray_eyes1.jpg

Oh he's got lovely eyes

[Livia]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/363/3/c/dominatrix_by_valentinakallias-d35xb7j.jpg


Norfolk Street Angels Chapter official uniform

Chapter motto: "you've been a naughty boy, now its time to pay (for your taxi home)"

Nice outfit... however, I take more of a '******* 'em' approach.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nice outfit... however, I take more of a '******* 'em' approach.

I hope you dont mind me using an image of your weekend togs?

[Livia]

I hope you dont mind me using an image of your weekend togs?

LOL... knock yourself out.

I have to level with you... it's not what I'm wearing right at this precise moment.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LOL... knock yourself out.

I have to level with you... it's not what I'm wearing right at this precise moment.

naked typing

Im down with that :spin2:

[Kizzy]

Can you have your little flirtfest on your wall and not in my thread please? :joker:

[Livia]

Sigh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can you have your little flirtfest on your wall and not in my thread please? :joker:

G.E.M.

:joker:

[Kizzy]

Q.U.E?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Q.U.E?

:xyxwave:

[arista]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-03/enhanced/webdr07/6/11/anigif_enhanced-30529-1394123803-3.gif

No do not Jump that
or the Street Angels will have to help you

[Z]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-03/enhanced/webdr07/6/11/anigif_enhanced-30529-1394123803-3.gif

No do not Jump that
or the Street Angels will have to help you

That seems more like Darwin Awards territory