Louis Tomlinson has possibly come out to his family

[Me. I Am Salman]

Keith Tomlinson
‏@iankeithtom
Too many questions. I am not a quiz show and you are not the press. And I never talk about my grandchildrens' private lives on social media

Mark Tomlinson
‏@tavtommo
Love @Louis_Tomlinson all the world. Yesterday, today and forever. He's my boy, simple as that. True love knows no boundaries xxxxx

Keith Tomlinson
‏@iankeithtom
He'll be there for you. No matter what

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[Ninastar]

i very very much doubt he has only just come out to them now...

maybe to distant family members, but to immediate family... yeah i doubt that.

[Shaun]

curious. Fair enough to him if he has :shrug:

[King Gizzard]

Or the press are readying a story about him

[Brother Leon]

We have our Gay footballer that was meant to come out today then. The Sun just exaggerated abit. :laugh:

[Jack_]

Thought I'd have a quick search of his name on Twitter, first tweet I see

https://twitter.com/FrannyHilson/status/442462314608861184

Vom (lul at the spelling though)

[T*]

Why is this news? Why is someone gay news? I don't get it? Why do we make a big deal about it?

[Jordan.]

Thought I'd have a quick search of his name on Twitter, first tweet I see

https://twitter.com/FrannyHilson/status/442462314608861184

Vom (lul at the spelling though)

:joker:

[King Gizzard]

It should be news, because it can then encourage others that are struggling with it to come out and be an inspiration for that person, but then when it happens and it becomes really patronizing on that person that's the worst bit

[T*]

I dont really get why we have to come out if we're gay. Just be yourself, and if someone asks you why you didn't come out when they see you with the same sex, just say "Yeah, I'm gay, why is it a big deal?"

[Jack_]

Am I the only one that loves these kind of troll tweets that some people send to like celebrities and stuff?

https://twitter.com/chapstickzouis/status/442037560336846848

:laugh2:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Just searched 'Louis' on tumblr to see what people are saying but these came up :/

https://31.media.tumblr.com/319e086d64c535fe2b0870eb0b557019/tumblr_n25939LkzT1sldrhko1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d74bcf6146a9d11acb034799f60acacb/tumblr_n2576mYaIV1roim81o2_1280.jpg

https://31.media.tumblr.com/aa002c2756b2b1917127a4c2f3f889e0/tumblr_n25888Wdcf1tukzozo1_500.jpg

[Jack_]

pmsl the fanfic sex stories are very amusing

This will only fuel the Larry stuff if it turns out to be true though

[King Gizzard]

Jesus christ, 300k followers cause you're the grandad of someone from 1D

[Gstar]

I'm just trying to get past the fact that his grandad uses twitter

[Jarrod]

Louis is the reason I found confidence to come out in the first place... :shrug: I thought he was gay before I became such a big fan.

Also, he's got a 'girlfriend' called Eleanor... Apparently she's a beard (fake girlfriend) hired by Modest Management but... let's not get into that.

[Samm]

Am I the only one that loves these kind of troll tweets that some people send to like celebrities and stuff?

https://twitter.com/chapstickzouis/status/442037560336846848

:laugh2:

"Eat me out" :joker:

[Z]

This is such a huge shock to me I can't sleep now

[Samm]

I think it should be news tbh because it will make other people come out and think it's ok, but it's ok anyway it's just as they go through school being gay it's suppose to be a bad thing I didn't care when I was at school I just ignored the trolls, but I didn't come out at school it would of made it worst then my school life was like in the first place :joker:

[Jarrod]

I only did it because I needed confidence at the time. HOWEVER - No. It shouldn't be news. Homosexuality should just be the same as heterosexuality. It's nothing to make news of really, these days I mean. It's as common.

[Z]

To be fair, if he is about to come out to the media, that's a very brave thing to do and I think it is inspirational of him to do so - millions of people look up to and admire One Direction and I think it's brave of him to choose to do it now while they're still at the peak of their career instead of doing it when he's no longer hot property. Of course... might not be him. Pretty sure he's gay anyway but would be interesting if it is him who's coming out tomorrow...

[Gstar]

Also, he's got a 'girlfriend' called Eleanor... Apparently she's a beard (fake girlfriend) hired by Modest Management but... let's not get into that.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll225/mia-plur/SayWhat.gif

[Shaun]

jarrod spilling all the 1d t

[Z]

Did you guys hear the rumour that him and Tom Daley were at it for a while? :smug:

[Shaun]

oh, the UK's two most oversaturated and unappealing gays. how fitting.

[King Gizzard]

a fake girlfriend is called a beard?

[Shaun]

indeed

[alex_front2]

Gays are their own worst enemy imo.

So many make such a big deal and drama about coming out. Enjoyed shugging my shoulders and saying "so what" years ago when a snivelling crybaby attention seeking fellow Uni student cried came out in a dramatic pseudo tortured fashion. Refused to give him the attention he pathetically was seeking.

Straight people don't even come out, but gays have a whole process " coming out " which makes them very very different to straight people, gay pride events ( seeing a man's flabby arse peeping through a pair of chaps at a gay pride pride was revolting), campness. Gays should just blend in and stop banging on and on an on and on and on ad nauseum about being gay.

[Black Dagger]

oh dear.

[Vanessa]

I think it's always better to be honest. Most fans don't mind artists sexuality. It's the lying they can't stand.

[Jesus.]

Gays are their own worst enemy imo.

So many make such a big deal and drama about coming out. Enjoyed shugging my shoulders and saying "so what" years ago when a snivelling crybaby attention seeking fellow Uni student cried came out in a dramatic pseudo tortured fashion. Refused to give him the attention he pathetically was seeking.

Straight people don't even come out, but gays have a whole process " coming out " which makes them very very different to straight people, gay pride events ( seeing a man's flabby arse peeping through a pair of chaps at a gay pride pride was revolting), campness. Gays should just blend in and stop banging on and on an on and on and on ad nauseum about being gay.

Do you still work for the Samaritans?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is this news? Why is someone gay news? I don't get it? Why do we make a big deal about it?

Yes I just dont understand how it could be news either......




:rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Gays are their own worst enemy imo.

So many make such a big deal and drama about coming out. Enjoyed shugging my shoulders and saying "so what" years ago when a snivelling crybaby attention seeking fellow Uni student cried came out in a dramatic pseudo tortured fashion. Refused to give him the attention he pathetically was seeking.

Straight people don't even come out, but gays have a whole process " coming out " which makes them very very different to straight people, gay pride events ( seeing a man's flabby arse peeping through a pair of chaps at a gay pride pride was revolting), campness. Gays should just blend in and stop banging on and on an on and on and on ad nauseum about being gay.

I think you should call them "the gays" it puts even more distance between them and yourself and at the same time lumps them all together even more as one big Alan Carr.

[Novo]

Kind of agree with him on the Gay pride events thing, anything rainbow related is just a cringefest, its more normal to just blend like everyone else then to put on shows like that, don't really know what good it does for gays rather then put them in the spotlight for people to take the piss

[Kizzy]

I don't get the gay pride, having a mardi gra thing for sexuality in the UK?
Everyone has full rights here.

[Shaun]

Kind of agree with him on the Gay pride events thing, anything rainbow related is just a cringefest, its more normal to just blend like everyone else then to put on shows like that, don't really know what good it does for gays rather then put them in the spotlight for people to take the piss

Yeah we should all just hush up and just blend in to make sure the bigots have nothing to laugh at. Jesus christ do you hear yourself talk?

[Novo]

Yeah we should all just hush up and just blend in to make sure the bigots have nothing to laugh at. Jesus christ do you hear yourself talk?

Never said you should hush up, I just dont think the gay pride events are the best way to send the message that being gay is normal

[Shaun]

I don't think gay people necessarily want to be seen as "normal" since there is no "normal". Heterosexuality will always be seen as normal because it's what the majority of people are, there's just no point in trying to hide away sexuality to try and fit in.

It's a bit like blaming rape victims for leading on rapists - the ****ty attitude of those who laugh at pride events is what's the problem. I get that the most vocal and loud and crazy divas get the most attention (because of course they do, they stand out) but most pride events aren't about crossdressing and putting on parades.

And besides, most of those who are in drag, or in leather, are mostly paying tribute to the underground clubs of the 70s and 80s who were rioting and literally dying for our rights, so it's more of a sign of respect and celebration than, I dunno, what they actually act like.

[Braden]

...and in addition to that; not everyone who attends gay pride events are gay. Straight people do too.

But obviously it's okay to ignore that because they're the normal ones and they don't want the spotlight.

[Iceman]

Proper idiots in thia thread.....

[Niall]

I'm not entirely surprised I have to say, but if he does come out then good on him. It's a brave an admirable thing to do.

Gays are their own worst enemy imo.

So many make such a big deal and drama about coming out. Enjoyed shugging my shoulders and saying "so what" years ago when a snivelling crybaby attention seeking fellow Uni student cried came out in a dramatic pseudo tortured fashion. Refused to give him the attention he pathetically was seeking.

Straight people don't even come out, but gays have a whole process " coming out " which makes them very very different to straight people, gay pride events ( seeing a man's flabby arse peeping through a pair of chaps at a gay pride pride was revolting), campness. Gays should just blend in and stop banging on and on an on and on and on ad nauseum about being gay.

You have absolutely no concept of the pressure someone coming out is feeling nor will you ever have to experience that, so I suggest you keep your trap shut. That goes doubly for when public figure does it because ultimately it isn't for your attention, but as a message to queer youth out there going through a similar struggle and to encourage them to push forward and through it.

And yes of course blending in is the right answer, because of course we can only be gay on your terms right? It's not as if we as a group have a right to be whoever we want to be like you guys already have done throughout history? ****ing moron.

[Novo]

the replies I get just because I question the impact of Gay pride events.. If I'm an idiot for having an opinion that parades do more harm then good then so be it. in this part of the Country being gay seems normal and accepted and people are proud without putting on ott shows.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder if this will encourage the curly haired one to come out as well?

[Niall]

the replies I get just because I question the impact of Gay pride events.. If I'm an idiot for having an opinion that parades do more harm then good then so be it. in this part of the Country being gay seems normal and accepted and people are proud without putting on ott shows.

In a society where heterosexuality is the overwhelming norm, having pride events gives us a chance to celebrate ourselves in the majority for a short while.

It says a lot that straight people get bothered by them anyhow. Just because we aren't acting like an assimilated minority in the way society would like for a few short hours..

[Me. I Am Salman]

Straight people don't even come out, but gays have a whole process " coming out " which makes them very very different to straight people, gay pride events ( seeing a man's flabby arse peeping through a pair of chaps at a gay pride pride was revolting), campness. Gays should just blend in and stop banging on and on an on and on and on ad nauseum about being gay.

we live in a world where you're assumed straight unless you say you're gay so of course no one needs to come out as heterosexual

[Crimson Dynamo]

If all i had was around 5% of my chosen sex to bang I would be having parades etc just to identify them.

[Novo]

In a society where heterosexuality is the overwhelming norm, having pride events gives us a chance to celebrate ourselves in the majority for a short while.

It says a lot that straight people get bothered by them anyhow. Just because we aren't acting like an assimilated minority in the way society would like for a few short hours..

Does being in the Majority mean that much though? does it really matter much nowadays now that Minorities are widely accepted and are respected all the same as the majority and are close to having ( or have) the same rights as everyone else

[Firewire]

louis being gay is old news

[Josiah.]

I think my head is going to explode because of this interesting incident now turned 'almost debate/argument'.

[Niall]

Does being in the Majority mean that much though? does it really matter much nowadays now that Minorities are widely accepted and are respected all the same as the majority and are close to having ( or have) the same rights as everyone else

Well yeah it kind of does. I mean sure we're not as overwhelmingly discriminated as we once were, but remnants of it remain throughout society. It's less visible than it used to be, but it's still there.

In the media for example LGBT people are something of an invisible minority usually winding up as that token character on a TV show. Or the fact that our rights can be so freely and flagrantly challenged by various groups throughout the media and government. They're both examples of that sort of oppressive atmosphere a heteronormative society can help to enforce.

We might be a minority sure, but being a minority only helps to normalise the discrimination we face. More visibility is the only thing that can really break that.

[Black Dagger]

Novo will be sticking to commenting in his Rangers thread from now on.

[Novo]

I'm the biggest minority going in that thread, time to start my own parade

[Z]

Has he come out?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Has he come out?

Novo?

[Marsh.]

I think people saying "Why is this news? It's 2014" don't quite get the point.

Attitudes may have moved on significantly since the dark ages but there is still quite a way to go. Especially in the entertainment industry which is stuck in the 50s.

It shouldn't have to be news and it shouldn't have to be an issue but that doesn't mean that it isn't. There's still a way to go yet and public faces (especially ones that appeal to the youngsters like 1D) coming out is only a positive thing to help encourage youngsters to not feel abnormal or scared.

[Z]

Novo?

I think he's out and proud already

[Novo]

If I was gay you wouldn't catch me at these silly parades that's for sure, I'd be to busy declaring my love for Bilel Mohnsi

[Z]

If I was gay you wouldn't catch me at these silly parades that's for sure, I'd be to busy declaring my love for Bilel Mohnsi

I'm sure I'll be jumped on for agreeing with you (and I really don't understand why people were SO outraged by what you said...) but I also think gay pride parades are a counter-productive activity - I can see why they exist, I'm not that narrow minded, but I just think if you want to be accepted for who you fundamentally are and be treated like anybody else then why are you making a big spectacle of how different you are? It's like fighting for peace, it's a bit of a paradox. But you know, each to their own, you wouldn't catch me anywhere near a gay pride parade but I wouldn't object to other people doing it, that's their prerogative. :shrug:

[Jarrod]

Louis hasn't come out as gay and until he does... if ever - he has a girlfriend, Eleanor. So no. He hasn't or won't anytime soon.

[Marsh.]

So how did Louis inspire you to come out? :suspect:

[Jarrod]

So how did Louis inspire you to come out? :suspect:

At the time, I didn't realize he hadn't actually come out.

I'm not saying I don't think he's gay because I honestly do. It's just he is currently with a 'girlfriend'. I just thought if he had, I could. I didn't realize until a few weeks later that he wasn't actually gay.

Oh and to add to the conversation above, I wouldn't be seen dead at a pride. I find it slightly embarrassing and I don't see why we should make a public show over it.

[Drew.]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1357165/confused-o.gif

[Ninastar]

I'm sure I'll be jumped on for agreeing with you (and I really don't understand why people were SO outraged by what you said...) but I also think gay pride parades are a counter-productive activity - I can see why they exist, I'm not that narrow minded, but I just think if you want to be accepted for who you fundamentally are and be treated like anybody else then why are you making a big spectacle of how different you are? It's like fighting for peace, it's a bit of a paradox. But you know, each to their own, you wouldn't catch me anywhere near a gay pride parade but I wouldn't object to other people doing it, that's their prerogative. :shrug:

nope i agree with it too. just didnt know how to put it into words and you summed it up pretty well

lets get married

[Shaun]

I'm sure I'll be jumped on for agreeing with you (and I really don't understand why people were SO outraged by what you said...) but I also think gay pride parades are a counter-productive activity - I can see why they exist, I'm not that narrow minded, but I just think if you want to be accepted for who you fundamentally are and be treated like anybody else then why are you making a big spectacle of how different you are? It's like fighting for peace, it's a bit of a paradox. But you know, each to their own, you wouldn't catch me anywhere near a gay pride parade but I wouldn't object to other people doing it, that's their prerogative. :shrug:

I don't really see what's so "different" about having carnivals (see: Notting Hill) and wanting to celebrate with fellow supporters/members of the LGBT community. Every time I hear "why can't you just be normal" I just see walls and walls of beige and conformity, and it's such a boring thing to ask for. As said somewhere on the previous page, a large part of gay pride is from paying tribute to the movements of the 60s-90s where we were a much more oppressed people. The marches, for example; where they were once greeted with water cannons and arrests, now they're about enjoyment. I think it's a shame to begrudge the partying of a people who've only truly been "free" for about 30 years.

I think people just look at these events and think "right, there's a load of Britney fans in speedos" but it's so much more than that. Offering support to teenagers coming out, lobbying against "straight reform" camps, celebrating historical figures... hell, even being proud isn't that bad a thing *overlooks the seven sins*...

And "if you want to be accepted for who you fundamentally are" shouldn't be an "if you want" scenario...

[Me. I Am Salman]

I'm sure I'll be jumped on for agreeing with you (and I really don't understand why people were SO outraged by what you said...) but I also think gay pride parades are a counter-productive activity - I can see why they exist, I'm not that narrow minded, but I just think if you want to be accepted for who you fundamentally are and be treated like anybody else then why are you making a big spectacle of how different you are? It's like fighting for peace, it's a bit of a paradox. But you know, each to their own, you wouldn't catch me anywhere near a gay pride parade but I wouldn't object to other people doing it, that's their prerogative. :shrug:

i really don't see the problem it's just celebration and remembrance, any group of oppressed people deserve a day to express themselves however they want. you're pretty much saying it's their fault to be judged for it :/

[Mitchell]

I am also in the 'will never go to pride' club its not really me

[Ammi]

..I guess with gay pride parades/carnivals, they're such an extravagant type thing that homeosexuals will feel differently about them, as we all do with stuff like that..some people like spectacular occasions and some people don't...I kind of get what some people are saying in that the parades etc seem unnecessary in that being gay should be considered 'norm' so why the need for these extravagant occasions...but heterosexual people don't ever have to 'come out' or declare their sexuality so for a heterosexual person, no matter how much they try, it's hard to understand what it's like to be gay and especially for someone who for whatever reason is reluctant to be open about their sexuality....anyway, people are not a sexuality, they are individuals so you'll never get people to agree on what they like and what they don't like etc and it's hard for a heterosexual person like me to comment on how something should be celebrated or is celebrated because it's like that speech from Panti Bliss..it can be thought of as 'oppression' ..like heterosexual people are telling homosexuals what they should do to be 'normal'...anyway, blending into 'normal' is quite overrated as well....

..oh, I don't think it's a good analogy but for some reason, this also reminds me a bit of the discussion about the 'n' word as well in that there will be black people who would want to 'reclaim' that word and use it and others who wouldn't ever want to use it and I think that's completely up to the individual but not up to a non black person to say ..you should or you shouldn't, type thing and as a heterosexual, I don't think either that it's up to me to say homosexuals should 'blend' if they want homosexuality to be seen as 'norm' or whether they should be 'loud and proud' ...I think for anyone, just be what you want to be, be yourself and celebrate it however you want to...