Founder of Westborough Church Is Dead

[Black Dagger]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fred-phelps-founder-of-god-hates-fags-westboro-baptist-church-is-on-edge-of-death-9195777.html

~gutted~... rot, you kuhnt.

[Kizzy]

There is a god.....

[Braden]

His preach disgusts me to my core, but I'd find myself slightly hypocritical to wish death upon him.

[bbfan1991]

His preach disgusts me to my core, but I'd find myself slightly hypocritical to wish death upon him.

I agree with this.

[Jack_]

If a load of gay men and women don't turn up to picket his funeral that's one opportunity missed tbh

[Samm]

hope he dies slowly and painfully x

[Me. I Am Salman]

His preach disgusts me to my core, but I'd find myself slightly hypocritical to wish death upon him.

[3]

[Z]

His preach disgusts me to my core, but I'd find myself slightly hypocritical to wish death upon him.

[4].

[Ninastar]

If a load of gay men and women don't turn up to picket his funeral that's one opportunity missed tbh

i would hope that a load of gay men and women wouldn't stoop to his level

also braden [5]

[Livia]

If the afterlife works out like he thinks it will, no doubt he'll be travelling in the opposite direction to the one he's expecting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A silly old man but a religionist all the same

[Verbal]

Did not see this coming

Westboro Baptist Church Fred Phelp’s Deathbed Confession “I’m Gay”
The 84 year old founder of the notorious Westboro Baptist Church is barely clinging to life at a Midland hospice house in Topeka Kansas. The man who seemingly dedicated his entire life to tormenting homosexuals allegedly made a startling confession while at death’s door. He announced to a roomful of stunned family members that he was indeed, a homosexual.

“We were just all sitting there because grandpa said he wanted to tell us something really important”, said Genevieve Phelps. Genevieve, along with several of her aunts and uncles sat huddled around the dying old man to hear him out. “He just looked at us all and smiled and said, I’m sorry. I’m gay. Our jaws just dropped, I mean… It doesn’t make any sense. We’re all just praying that this is somehow related to his illness or the medication he’s on. He’s really delirious and half the time he’s not making any sense at all. Regardless, it was very hard to hear after he spent his entire life fighting the scourge of homosexuality in the name of the Lord our God.”


This shocking proclamation is likely to throw a permanent monkey wrench in the works of the already scandalous Kansas church. The 84-year-old preacher established the small Kansas chapel in 1955 and made it a household name by picketing funerals, public events and businesses with hateful signs attacking gay people, Jews and others who he deemed sinners.

Several estranged relatives revealed that Fred had been excommunicated from his own house of worship in August of 2013 over matters that still remain a mystery.

Now, after protesting at the funeral’s of multiple fallen soldiers, the Phelps family requested that the rest of the world grant them privacy and respect while their nefarious leader finishes his journey to meet his maker.

Several gay activists have reportedly been gleefully celebrating the impending demise of the spiteful old codger.

A man named Nathan McDaniels was spotted dancing gracefully on the lawn in front of the Phelps compound last night sporting a full length scarlet gown embroidered with the Latin phrase “debitum naturae”. When we inquired what he was doing there, he gave us a wry smile and responded “Oh, you know… Just waiting for God to flush the toilet..”

http://nationalreport.net/westboro-baptist-church-fred-phelps-deathbed-confession-im-gay/

[Marsh.]

hope he dies slowly and painfully x

Which makes your morals better than his how exactly?

[lostalex]

It doesn't really matter, his daughter has been running the show for quite a while now. I don't think his passing will have any effect on this little church.

[Samm]

Which makes your morals better than his how exactly?

he deserves it

[Black Dagger]

Didn't exactly ~wish~. him dead at all, but remind me to show him more remorse when he pops his clogs.

[Shaun]

oh well bye

[Marsh.]

he deserves it

Which makes what he says about what gays deserve worse how?

[T*]

Did not see this coming

Westboro Baptist Church Fred Phelp’s Deathbed Confession “I’m Gay”
The 84 year old founder of the notorious Westboro Baptist Church is barely clinging to life at a Midland hospice house in Topeka Kansas. The man who seemingly dedicated his entire life to tormenting homosexuals allegedly made a startling confession while at death’s door. He announced to a roomful of stunned family members that he was indeed, a homosexual.

“We were just all sitting there because grandpa said he wanted to tell us something really important”, said Genevieve Phelps. Genevieve, along with several of her aunts and uncles sat huddled around the dying old man to hear him out. “He just looked at us all and smiled and said, I’m sorry. I’m gay. Our jaws just dropped, I mean… It doesn’t make any sense. We’re all just praying that this is somehow related to his illness or the medication he’s on. He’s really delirious and half the time he’s not making any sense at all. Regardless, it was very hard to hear after he spent his entire life fighting the scourge of homosexuality in the name of the Lord our God.”


This shocking proclamation is likely to throw a permanent monkey wrench in the works of the already scandalous Kansas church. The 84-year-old preacher established the small Kansas chapel in 1955 and made it a household name by picketing funerals, public events and businesses with hateful signs attacking gay people, Jews and others who he deemed sinners.

Several estranged relatives revealed that Fred had been excommunicated from his own house of worship in August of 2013 over matters that still remain a mystery.

Now, after protesting at the funeral’s of multiple fallen soldiers, the Phelps family requested that the rest of the world grant them privacy and respect while their nefarious leader finishes his journey to meet his maker.

Several gay activists have reportedly been gleefully celebrating the impending demise of the spiteful old codger.

A man named Nathan McDaniels was spotted dancing gracefully on the lawn in front of the Phelps compound last night sporting a full length scarlet gown embroidered with the Latin phrase “debitum naturae”. When we inquired what he was doing there, he gave us a wry smile and responded “Oh, you know… Just waiting for God to flush the toilet..”

http://nationalreport.net/westboro-baptist-church-fred-phelps-deathbed-confession-im-gay/

Hoax site

[lostalex]

It really annoys me when people try to portray all homophobes as being homosexual. Same thing they did with Putin before the Olympics.

Why do pople think it's cute or funny to imply that straight people cannot be homophobes, all homophobes are actually just closeted gay men?

It's offensive.

[Marsh.]

It really annoys me when people try to portray all homophobes as being homosexual. Same thing they did with Putin before the Olympics.

Why do pople think it's cute or funny to imply that straight people cannot be homophobes, all homophobes are actually just closeted gay men?

It's offensive.

You could say... homophobic.

[thesheriff443]

in a way he has help raise awareness for gay rights.

if people are not carful they could end up being the opposite off him.

[Samm]

in a way he has help raise awareness for gay rights.

if people are not carful they could end up being the opposite off him.

don't see how he is :umm2:

[Mitchell]

**** happens.

[Braden]

Didn't exactly ~wish~. him dead at all, but remind me to show him more remorse when he pops his clogs.

Nobody said you did :shrug:

[MTVN]

Not like there's much to celebrate really, obviously he's an awful person but he's lived a long life, his Church and his views have achieved worldwide notoriety, like Alex said he's now largely handed over to his daughter and it seems like he will die of natural causes. He can probably look back on his life with a fair amount of satisfaction

[Conzors]

I actually hope loads of gay people go to his funeral to prove that although he had that view, death isnt wished upon anyone and we still respect him. I would hate to think that gay people would wish this upon him and be so disrespectful, no matter what his views are.

[Conzors]

and that we dont sink as low as that and were open minded etc.

[lostalex]

Is that "pride house" from a few years ago still across the street from the Phelps??

http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/1500_center.jpg?w=480&h=320&crop=1

http://cjonline.com/news/2013-03-19/nonprofit-painting-gay-pride-flag-house-across-westboro-baptist-church

[GypsyGoth]

It doesn't really matter, his daughter has been running the show for quite a while now. I don't think his passing will have any effect on this little church.

That's a good point, that even after he dies, the cult will go on.

[lostalex]

That's a good point, that even after he dies, the cult will go on.

It's not a cult. it's a religion. and WBC are no more hateful or destructive than any of the other big ones.

Just because the other religions are better at disguising their bigotry in politically correct language doesn't make them any less crazy or hateful. and at least this one isn't flying planes into buildings.

[Josy]

It's not a cult. it's a religion. and WBC are no more hateful or destructive than any of the other big ones.

Just because the other religions are better at disguising their bigotry in politically correct language doesn't make them any less crazy or hateful. and at least this one isn't flying planes into buildings.

That's bollocks tbh Alex. The WBC are a hate group. They have been denounced by quite a few religions iirc and they protest and picket at funerals fgs.

[lostalex]

That's bollocks tbh Alex. The WBC are a hate group. They have been denounced by quite a few religions iirc and they protest and picket at funerals fgs.

i wonder though Josy, if you think about it objectively.,.. who is responsible for more hatred and bigotry... the catholic church has certainly caused a million times more misery than the WBC...Islam as well(I don't need to give examples of Islam's violence). I think of jewish snipers shooting at a gay rights parade in Jerusalem, or orthodox jews harassing young girls walking to school for not covering themselves.

Is WBC really so hateful? or are they just more honest?

I think WBC is actually preaching THE BIBLE, as it is written. They are being honest about their religion. unlike many other religious folks who just like to pretend that certain scriptures don't exist. At least they are being honest about what the scriptures actually say.

They speak the hate that is actually written in the scriptures. They expose the scriptures for what they are, hate speech.

The truth is Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, are no different than the KKK. The WBC just make it more obvious. They don't hide behind pretty speech, or politically correct wordage.

The other religions say "love the sinner hate the sin", and the WBC says "god hates fags", but they are all saying the same thing. They all say that God condemn gays.

and they are all telling lies, because the truth is, there is no God.

[lostalex]

as someone who was raised catholic, i would argue that the whole argument that other religions are more loving or true, is actually more harmful to our youth.

I was raised in a so-called "loving" church community, and no matter what nice words they use, it was always clear that being gay was wrong, and that homosexuals go to hell, and that being gay is wrong.

Atleast the WBC are honest and direct about it.

[Josy]

You contradict yourself a bit here

Is WBC really so hateful? or are they just more honest?

I think WBC is actually preaching THE BIBLE, as it is written. They are being honest about their religion. unlike many other religious folks who just like to pretend that certain scriptures don't exist. At least they are being honest about what the scriptures actually say.

They speak the hate that is actually written in the scriptures. They expose the scriptures for what they are, hate speech.

So then you admit they are a hate group?

I do understand the point you are making Alex but they are still only true to the parts of the bible they want to be true to, for example they don't accept communion when it states in the bible you must accept it.

[lostalex]

You contradict yourself a bit here



So then you admit they are a hate group?

I do understand the point you are making Alex but they are still only true to the parts of the bible they want to be true to, for example they don't accept communion when it states in the bible you must accept it.

i don't think anything in the bible is truly clear. is the fact that a man was able to live in the belly of a whale also clear? the bible makes no attempt to explain how that was possible, it's just a miracle.

Is the idea that a burning bush was able to speak and communicate the will of God also clear? again, no explanation how it's possible, it's just a miracle.

nothing in the bible is clear. it's a hodge-podge of superstitious nonsense. But if you are gonna believe in the bible, then you have to believe in it all, and the WBC makes it perfectly clear how ridiculous and absurd the bible actually is.

[Josy]

You were the one that brought the bible up to further your point.

I stand by my opinion that they are a hate group/cult.

[lostalex]

You were the one that brought the bible up to further your point.

I stand by my opinion that they are a hate group/cult.

and i stand by my point that they are no more a hate group than other major religions.

I only reacted to classifying WBC specifically as a "cult". Aslong as we classify all organized religions as a cult, we have no disagreement, Josy.

I think the Pope telling Africans that it's against God's will to use condoms, in the middle of an AIDS epidemic in Africa, is far more evil than the dozen or so WBC members standing outside of a funeral holding offensive signs.

[lostalex]

I think the Pope lecturing the world about poverty, while he's living in a palace, is OBSCENE.

The Vatican has hundreds of millions of dollars net worth, but they have the nerve to talk about poverty??

The Pope could feed 30 families for a year by just selling one ring.

If we are going to have a circle jerk of condemning the WBC, let's not leave out the even bigger players, who are just as bad.

[BBfanUSA]

Saw a trustworthy source report that he has died,

*Grabs Picket Sign*

Let's do this thing

[Jessica.]

he ded

[Jessica.]

see
The controversial church leader died at the age of 84.

[Black Dagger]

oh no rip

[Marsh.]

I think the Pope lecturing the world about poverty, while he's living in a palace, is OBSCENE.

The Vatican has hundreds of millions of dollars net worth, but they have the nerve to talk about poverty??

The Pope could feed 30 families for a year by just selling one ring.

If we are going to have a circle jerk of condemning the WBC, let's not leave out the even bigger players, who are just as bad.

Yet your computer/house and other belongings could go to better use for those in desperate need. That's how this circle of hypocrisy continues.

[lostalex]

unfortunately he won't ever get what he deserves. he just gets the same old oblivion that we all get.

what a boring ending.

[Samm]

life moves on, bye old man

[lostalex]

Yet your computer/house and other belongings could go to better use for those in desperate need. That's how this circle of hypocrisy continues.

I'm not a hypocrite though, because i've never claimed to be holy.

I don't go up to poor people and lecture them about how much I love them while wearing gold rings and silk robes.

[Marsh.]

I'm not a hypocrite though, because i've never claimed to be holy.

Judging others about how their luxuries could be better spent when you have your own is hypocrisy. Holy doesn't come into it.

[lostalex]

Judging others about how their luxuries could be better spent when you have your own is hypocrisy. Holy doesn't come into it.

umm, it does come into it, because i don't talk to poor people at all. So how am I a hypocrite? I don't lecture anyone.

I'm giving my opinion on a forum, we're having a conversation, but i'm not writing an e-mail to the pope...

i'm sharing my opinion on the matter, cause that's what we do on this forum, but i'm not an activist against the pope or anything.

[Marsh.]

:facepalm:

[lostalex]

:facepalm:

+1

[Crimson Dynamo]

..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion

[BBfanUSA]

Wait this is a thread about some leader of a hate group dying.

Why are we talking about the Vatican?

[Niamh.]

Wait this is a thread about some leader of a hate group dying.

Why are we talking about the Vatican?

I think the Pope may have killed him :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wait this is a thread about some leader of a hate group dying.

Why are we talking about the Vatican?

2 religious people who interpret an ancient collection of books for profit.

[Z]

It's a pity his venomous interpretation of the Bible lives on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's a pity his venomous interpretation of the Bible lives on.

Well he has only just become Pope so it looks like a few more years yet

[Mitchell]

Shame it was so quick.

[AnnieK]

I think the Pope may have killed him :umm2:

Jim's fault

[Mitchell]

And before anyone gets on their high horse, I'm glad he's dead, as far as I'm concerned it's deserved.

What he has said and tried to brainwash/preach people with has most likely caused suicide of gay people, so as far as I'm concerned for all their sakes this is well deserved.

[Niamh.]

Jim's fault

:laugh:

[MTVN]

2 religious people who interpret an ancient collection of books for profit.

The Papacy is pretty ancient itself

[lostalex]

Wait this is a thread about some leader of a hate group dying.

Why are we talking about the Vatican?

yea, what could one christian hate group have to do with another christian hate group... What could be the connection?... :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

yea, what could one christian hate group have to do with another christian hate group... What could be the connection?... :joker:

has anyone seen Jesus lately?

http://irishjaunt.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/father-ted-careful-now.jpg

[lostalex]

http://irishjaunt.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/father-ted-careful-now.jpg

http://www.lightforcenetwork.com/sites/default/files/resize/remote/09fcc2810aed9f8c2975f4b7f6d7c856-375x311.png

[Apple202]

bye now

[Nedusa]

Did not see this coming

Westboro Baptist Church Fred Phelp’s Deathbed Confession “I’m Gay”
The 84 year old founder of the notorious Westboro Baptist Church is barely clinging to life at a Midland hospice house in Topeka Kansas. The man who seemingly dedicated his entire life to tormenting homosexuals allegedly made a startling confession while at death’s door. He announced to a roomful of stunned family members that he was indeed, a homosexual.

“We were just all sitting there because grandpa said he wanted to tell us something really important”, said Genevieve Phelps. Genevieve, along with several of her aunts and uncles sat huddled around the dying old man to hear him out. “He just looked at us all and smiled and said, I’m sorry. I’m gay. Our jaws just dropped, I mean… It doesn’t make any sense. We’re all just praying that this is somehow related to his illness or the medication he’s on. He’s really delirious and half the time he’s not making any sense at all. Regardless, it was very hard to hear after he spent his entire life fighting the scourge of homosexuality in the name of the Lord our God.”


This shocking proclamation is likely to throw a permanent monkey wrench in the works of the already scandalous Kansas church. The 84-year-old preacher established the small Kansas chapel in 1955 and made it a household name by picketing funerals, public events and businesses with hateful signs attacking gay people, Jews and others who he deemed sinners.

Several estranged relatives revealed that Fred had been excommunicated from his own house of worship in August of 2013 over matters that still remain a mystery.

Now, after protesting at the funeral’s of multiple fallen soldiers, the Phelps family requested that the rest of the world grant them privacy and respect while their nefarious leader finishes his journey to meet his maker.

Several gay activists have reportedly been gleefully celebrating the impending demise of the spiteful old codger.

A man named Nathan McDaniels was spotted dancing gracefully on the lawn in front of the Phelps compound last night sporting a full length scarlet gown embroidered with the Latin phrase “debitum naturae”. When we inquired what he was doing there, he gave us a wry smile and responded “Oh, you know… Just waiting for God to flush the toilet..”

http://nationalreport.net/westboro-baptist-church-fred-phelps-deathbed-confession-im-gay/

It's true what they say about people who protest too much

[Shaun]

oh well bye

.

[Me. I Am Salman]

omg at tmz

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/20/fred-phelps-dead-westboro-baptist-church/

[Black Dagger]

I saw that earlier :laugh2:

[Marsh.]

omg at tmz

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/20/fred-phelps-dead-westboro-baptist-church/

Hypocrites.

[Ammi]

http://i.imgur.com/x3gmYHT.jpg


..they lit up the Empire State Building for 5 minutes...


...tbh, I don't understand why they would go to that expense, it's not as if it's the 'death' of the Westboro Church and to celebrate the death of someone who cruelly celebrated deaths just seems all wrong...

[Jessica.]

http://i.imgur.com/x3gmYHT.jpg


..they lit up the Empire State Building for 5 minutes...


...tbh, I don't understand why they would go to that expense, it's not as if it's the 'death' of the Westboro Church and to celebrate the death of someone who cruelly celebrated deaths just seems all wrong...

That's going a bit too far.. :shocked:

[Ammi]

That's going a bit too far.. :shocked:

..I also think from a financial point of view, why go to that expense for someone who was such an awful human being, surely indifference would have been better...

[Jessica.]

..I also think from a financial point of view, why go to that expense for someone who was such an awful human being, surely indifference would have been better...

I agree, I don't understand why they would even give him any recognition if they were so against him living, his family are probably delighted about it, I think I remember seeing in one of the documentaries that they don't actually feel any sadness if a family member dies because they believe they are just in heaven.

[Nedusa]

http://i.imgur.com/x3gmYHT.jpg


..they lit up the Empire State Building for 5 minutes...


...tbh, I don't understand why they would go to that expense, it's not as if it's the 'death' of the Westboro Church and to celebrate the death of someone who cruelly celebrated deaths just seems all wrong...

I agree we should not celebrate this mans death rather instead mourn his hateful wasteful life

[Kyle]

'But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you.'

[Livia]

'But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you.'

Such a pity that as a Christian, he didn't adhere to that doctrine himself.

Not sure I understand the outpouring of reasonableness following this man's death. I'm not saying people should be putting out the flags but personally I'm glad he's dead. Maybe the loved ones of the troops and the gay people whose funerals he and his dickhead friends picketed will be having a little celebration, and seriously, who could blame them? He was a bigot who preached hate and the world is a better place now he's not infesting it any longer. Whatever next, a remembrance thread for Hitler? After all, he was a human being. Right?

[Tom4784]

Meh, he was a terrible human being and I wouldn't waste a thought on him when he was alive and much less now that he is dead.

[Livia]

Meh, he was a terrible human being and I wouldn't waste a thought on him when he was alive and much less now that he is dead.

Me neither. But I can understand the joy of the people whose loved ones' funerals he and his cronies picketed.

[Kizzy]

We had a state funeral for a war criminal, so nothing surprises me now...
Hopefully his indoctrinated family can learn to integrate now without this oppressor.

[Livia]

We had a state funeral for a war criminal, so nothing surprises me now...
Hopefully his indoctrinated family can learn to integrate now without this oppressor.


What has that got to do with this topic, exactly? Nothing at all.

[GiRTh]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Kizzy]

What has that got to do with this topic, exactly? Nothing at all.

Plenty, when the hand wringers were pleading with those who were glad the mad ol bint was dead there were calls to 'think of the family'.... is that not applicable here?

You could have just asked me to explain instead of being so presumptuous.

[Livia]

Plenty, when the hand wringers were pleading with those who were glad the mad ol bint was dead there were calls to 'think of the family'.... is that not applicable here?

You could have just asked me to explain instead of being so presumptuous.

This thread isn't about Margaret Thatcher and she has no bearing at all on this thread. You can't just turn everything into an anti-Tory rant.

[Kizzy]

This thread isn't about Margaret Thatcher and she has no bearing at all on this thread. You can't just turn everything into an anti-Tory rant.
It has relevance here, please don't tell me what I can and can't post livia.

[joeysteele]

Such a pity that as a Christian, he didn't adhere to that doctrine himself.

Not sure I understand the outpouring of reasonableness following this man's death. I'm not saying people should be putting out the flags but personally I'm glad he's dead. Maybe the loved ones of the troops and the gay people whose funerals he and his dickhead friends picketed will be having a little celebration, and seriously, who could blame them? He was a bigot who preached hate and the world is a better place now he's not infesting it any longer. Whatever next, a remembrance thread for Hitler? After all, he was a human being. Right?

First class post, pretty much sums up my feelings on this as well.
Well put Livia.