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arista
26-03-2014, 02:22 PM
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[Ever since becoming Labour leader Ed Miliband has been dogged
by the perception that he is quite strange.
And with just over a year to go until the general election the
Conservatives are preparing to focus their attacks on
Miliband himself, asking the public whether they really
want this man as their Prime Minister.
To see whether these attacks are likely to be a success BuzzFeed
asked polling company YouGov to investigate how the public
perceives the Labour leader. And it’s not all good news for Miliband.]


No one wants him as PM
Fact


http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-british-public-still-think-ed-miliband-is-weird


This was reported on Radio 5
Politics

Livia
26-03-2014, 02:26 PM
He sounds strange, he looks strange and he shafted his own brother to get his job. And he is definitely strange when you meet him in the flesh. Ed Balls isn't my favourite person in the world, but at least he's not weird like Miliband.

Crimson Dynamo
26-03-2014, 02:31 PM
People prefer good looking tall people for leaders or strong angry women.

Just the way life is.

arista
26-03-2014, 02:46 PM
He sounds strange, he looks strange and he shafted his own brother to get his job. And he is definitely strange when you meet him in the flesh. Ed Balls isn't my favourite person in the world, but at least he's not wierd like Miliband.


Bang On Right Livia

Livia
26-03-2014, 03:17 PM
People prefer good looking tall people for leaders or strong angry women.

Just the way life is.

I can't think of anyone in Parliament who's is good looking. Politics has been described as "show business for ugly people" and I tend to agree.

There's nothing wrong with being ugly. Miliband abuses the privilege though.

Kizzy
26-03-2014, 03:27 PM
How shallow, I prefer people to be appreciated for their ability not their aesthetic qualities.
Churchill was no looker was he? It's bad enough this mentality exists in the music and film industry for gods sake now we choose our politicians based on what they look/sound like.... sad.

arista
26-03-2014, 03:38 PM
How shallow, I prefer people to be appreciated for their ability not their aesthetic qualities.
Churchill was no looker was he? It's bad enough this mentality exists in the music and film industry for gods sake now we choose our politicians based on what they look/sound like.... sad.


But thats Politics


And Churchill had a Good Voice


Your Ed - sounds terrible

Kizzy
26-03-2014, 03:46 PM
But thats Politics


And Churchill had a Good Voice


Your Ed - sounds terrible

It's not politics and he's not MY Ed.

Kyle
26-03-2014, 03:49 PM
Don't give a sh*t if he's 'weird' so long as he does his job. I'm weird, loads of people are weird. It's pathetic.

Kizzy
26-03-2014, 03:56 PM
I'll tell you what's weird these ex bullingdon coke snorting creeps that are making everyone homeless jobless and potless :/

Z
26-03-2014, 04:19 PM
I'm more concerned by his abject failure to be a good politician than his striking resemblance to Donkey from Shrek.

Kizzy
26-03-2014, 04:46 PM
What has he done or not done that made you feel that way z?

arista
26-03-2014, 04:56 PM
I'm more concerned by his abject failure to be a good politician than his striking resemblance to Donkey from Shrek.


Bang On Right Zee

Me. I Am Salman
26-03-2014, 05:10 PM
I think he's a loveable fool like Gordon Brown

Z
26-03-2014, 05:54 PM
What has he done or not done that made you feel that way z?

Just think he's been totally ineffective as the leader of the opposition and despite the Tories doing a hatchet job on the country, he's somehow managed to screw up making them look bad enough to give Labour strong popular support. Wouldn't be stunned if either the Tories hold onto power or Labour get in but only on a coalition basis with a flip flopping Lib Dem party who would look even more ridiculous and ineffective if they did so. All three of the parties are looking pathetic at the moment and only the Tories are looking effective which is the most worrying thing to me. I think that would be why they might win the next election.

armand.kay
26-03-2014, 06:28 PM
I think he's a loveable fool like Gordon Brown
This :laugh:

Shaun
26-03-2014, 07:05 PM
let's all just vote green

(seriously)

Nedusa
26-03-2014, 08:30 PM
Labour must be the party of politicians with speech defects, first Gordon Brown now Ed Miliband .

Not being funny but the GBP like to listen to leaders with good diction not someone who does voice overs for the Elephant man.

arista
26-03-2014, 08:42 PM
let's all just vote green

(seriously)

No they are Communists
Go Feck yourself


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joeysteele
26-03-2014, 10:49 PM
Good lord, do we now have to judge politicians for their looks and does that make them better politicians if they do look good.

Not for me, I have warmed to ED Miliband bigtime these last 2 years, I don't find him strange at all, to me he says what he feels and what he says is far more interesting to me than some in this Govt presenting failure as success and spending a near fortune likely on their appearance.

I too have had the privilege,(and I see it as a privilege,since he seems to care far more as to the most vulnerable in society than this heartless bunch now in Govt. ever will), of meeting Ed Miliband, albeit briefly.
He didn't seem strange in any way at all to me and he was also extremely polite. Something I haven't found a lot of with Conservative politicians,of who Theresa May must be the most ignorant and dismissive in my opinion.

I will have Ed Miliband, strange or otherwise, any day now to this procrastinating and not to be believed or trusted PM David Cameron.

Vicky.
26-03-2014, 11:11 PM
Looks and silly voices dont matter at all to me really. I'm quite saddened that this seems to be a major factor in politics :/

If the topic had been about having no faith in Milliband as a leader, fair enough. But to be taking the piss out of him for being 'weird'...well thats just pathetic IMO

Also arista, to quote yourself, in reply to this

'No one wants him as PM
Fact'

Utter bollocks

joeysteele
27-03-2014, 12:07 AM
In my opinion and I am one that firmly wants to see Ed Milband become PM.
Any other election result in 2015 would in my view be a sad day indeed for those at the bottom and the most vulnerable in society and also for the Country too.
Not wanted by me for one is 4 to 5 more years of all the same hardline policies again that was supposed to be necessary to be done from the first year of 2010 to guarantee no more after 2015.

So for me,definitely I hope and want Ed Miliband to be PM.

Kizzy
27-03-2014, 12:16 AM
Yey! good on you joey, when will we be seeing Mr Steele Labour MP then? ;)

lostalex
27-03-2014, 07:17 AM
It really is a shame how things turned out. His brother would have done great things for that party. So well put together and confident.

arista
27-03-2014, 07:29 AM
It really is a shame how things turned out. His brother would have done great things for that party. So well put together and confident.


Yes but the Unions did not want him

Kazanne
27-03-2014, 07:47 AM
Yey! good on you joey, when will we be seeing Mr Steele Labour MP then? ;)

Now that Mr Steele would have my backing:hugesmile:

joeysteele
27-03-2014, 08:21 AM
It really is a shame how things turned out. His brother would have done great things for that party. So well put together and confident.

I agree lostalex, I do feel David was the stronger of the 2 and had more appeal to the public too.
However, having said that, it is a rare thing for parties in UK politics,especially since the war to come back from defeat and win the next election in one go.

It has only happened once in UK politics since 1945 and that was Harold Wilson leading Labour back to Govt in 1974 after being defeated himself in 1970.

When you look at the scale of the defeat for Labour in 2010, them going to 29.6% of the votes as opposed to the Conservatives taking 36.9% of the votes.
The fact that Ed miliband has held the lead for the last 3 years at least and is still in a winning position with the Conservative party still plodding around in the lower 30s of percentage of voting intention.
Then that is quite a turnaround that Ed Miliband has done so far for the Labour party.

Ed Miliband has his party in the position where it is at the very least likely going to be the largest party anyway, if he holds on to this 2% to 5% lead,even that small lead will give him an overall majority in all probablility.

I also believe come the conference season this year that d Miliband will have a great deal more up his sleeve,I think he is underestimated a lot of the time and he has seen how he can set the talking agenda as to policy as he did with energy costs last year.


Kizzy and Kazanne, thank you very much for your comments, I won't be looking to stand as a candidate in any way in 2015, however who knows for the future.
One thing is sure, I would,if I was looking for to be a candidate,be 100% happy to be standing for the labour party under Ed Miliband's leadership.
At least I would feel at home there due to the sensitivity and compassion of the policies which are far more in line with my thinking than the heartless, prejudiced and discriminatory policies the most vulnerable have had to suffer under this shower in Govt. at present.

Kizzy
27-03-2014, 12:21 PM
The way David did a runner following his defeat speaks volumes, Blairites we don't need thankyou...
I'm hoping that the Labour party under Ed will aid to rebuild infrastructure, it will be a seemingly impossible task, by the time if or when he does enter there will be nothing of value left that hasn't been sold off to tory backers.
I think the fact he hasn't been grandstanding is very reassuring, he is preparing for government and that takes a lot of work I would have thought.
Personally I haven't met Ed Milliband but I have met Rachel Reeves, she is very warm, intelligent and has a social conscience not traits usually found in MPs :laugh:
You hear that joey? Hurry up the nation needs you! :)

Nedusa
27-03-2014, 02:22 PM
Ed Miliband is quite strange and sounds awful, in fact I think "Mr Ed" probably talks more sense and is definitely easier to listen to.

Livia
27-03-2014, 06:02 PM
The way David did a runner following his defeat speaks volumes, Blairites we don't need thankyou...
I'm hoping that the Labour party under Ed will aid to rebuild infrastructure, it will be a seemingly impossible task, by the time if or when he does enter there will be nothing of value left that hasn't been sold off to tory backers.
I think the fact he hasn't been grandstanding is very reassuring, he is preparing for government and that takes a lot of work I would have thought.
Personally I haven't met Ed Milliband but I have met Rachel Reeves, she is very warm, intelligent and has a social conscience not traits usually found in MPs :laugh:You hear that joey? Hurry up the nation needs you! :)

Quite a statement based on meeting one MP.

joeysteele
27-03-2014, 06:16 PM
The way David did a runner following his defeat speaks volumes, Blairites we don't need thankyou...
I'm hoping that the Labour party under Ed will aid to rebuild infrastructure, it will be a seemingly impossible task, by the time if or when he does enter there will be nothing of value left that hasn't been sold off to tory backers.
I think the fact he hasn't been grandstanding is very reassuring, he is preparing for government and that takes a lot of work I would have thought.
Personally I haven't met Ed Milliband but I have met Rachel Reeves, she is very warm, intelligent and has a social conscience not traits usually found in MPs :laugh:
You hear that joey? Hurry up the nation needs you! :)

As I have said before to you Kizzy, Rachel Reeves is a truly 'real' and genuine person in politics.
She holds a great deal of the same thinking as Ed Miliband and therefore it is no surprise she is one of his rising stars.
I have heard her speak many times and she is one of the warmest and nicest individuals you could meet.
She will make a really excellent cabinet Minister and if she got Work and Pensions, then real understanding and compassion will I am certain be brought into all policy making and the further reforms in that department.

I don't care what Ed Miliband looks like or sounds like, it what he believes and stands for and what he says he will do that is the key for me.

We have all these near supposed perfect and educated Cabinet Ministers who talk expressing the word 'do' as 'dooo',it all sounds good to some but sadly the content of the words,tone,attitude and ideas are heartless and unjust most of the time.
Give me someone any day who speaks about fairness and justice and believes in compassion, treating people as individuals with dignity and not blocks or numbers,then I wouldn't care one bit as to how they sound or look.
I find very little of that indeed as to the way of fairness.justice and compassion from these so called wonderful talkers there are in Govt at present.

What people do,how they think as to others, how they look out for and treat other people is of far more importance to me.
In all that Ed Miliband stands massively above the likes of David Cameron, Ian Duncan Smith and George Osborne, indeed above most of this hardline,extreme uncaring cabinet.

Livia
27-03-2014, 06:21 PM
As I have said before to you Kizzy, Rachel Reeves is a truly 'real' and genuine person in politics.
She holds a great deal of the same thinking as Ed Miliband and therefore it is no surprise she is one of his rising stars.
I have heard her speak many times and she is one of the warmest and nicest individuals you could meet.
She will make a really excellent cabinet Minister and if she got Work and Pensions, then real understanding and compassion will I am certain be brought into all policy making and the further reforms in that department.

I don't care what Ed Miliband looks like or sounds like, it what he believes and stands for and what he says he will do that is the key for me.

We have all these near supposed perfect and educated Cabinet Ministers who talk expressing the word 'do' as 'dooo',it all sounds good to some but sadly the content of the words,tone,attitude and ideas are heartless and unjust most of the time.
Give me someone any day who speaks about fairness and justice and believes in compassion, treating people as individuals with dignity and not blocks or numbers,then I wouldn't care one bit as to how they sound or look.
I find very little of that indeed as to the way of fairness.justice and compassion from these so called wonderful talkers there are in Govt at present.

What people do,how they think as to others, how they look out for and treat other people is of far more importance to me.
In all that Ed Miliband stands massively above the likes of David Cameron, Ian Duncan Smith and George Osborne, indeed above most of this hardline,extreme uncaring cabinet.

I don't think much of what you've said is in question, Joey. This thread is about the 'public' perception. Anyone posting on this thread is at least interested in politics... half the public don't even vote though, as you know, and many more don't look beyond the façade.

joeysteele
27-03-2014, 06:36 PM
I don't think much of what you've said is in question, Joey. This thread is about the 'public' perception. Anyone posting on this thread is at least interested in politics... half the public don't even vote though, as you know, and many more don't look beyond the façade.

That is very sadly true,I agree.

Kizzy
28-03-2014, 12:05 AM
As I have said before to you Kizzy, Rachel Reeves is a truly 'real' and genuine person in politics.
She holds a great deal of the same thinking as Ed Miliband and therefore it is no surprise she is one of his rising stars.
I have heard her speak many times and she is one of the warmest and nicest individuals you could meet.
She will make a really excellent cabinet Minister and if she got Work and Pensions, then real understanding and compassion will I am certain be brought into all policy making and the further reforms in that department.

I don't care what Ed Miliband looks like or sounds like, it what he believes and stands for and what he says he will do that is the key for me.

We have all these near supposed perfect and educated Cabinet Ministers who talk expressing the word 'do' as 'dooo',it all sounds good to some but sadly the content of the words,tone,attitude and ideas are heartless and unjust most of the time.
Give me someone any day who speaks about fairness and justice and believes in compassion, treating people as individuals with dignity and not blocks or numbers,then I wouldn't care one bit as to how they sound or look.
I find very little of that indeed as to the way of fairness.justice and compassion from these so called wonderful talkers there are in Govt at present.

What people do,how they think as to others, how they look out for and treat other people is of far more importance to me.
In all that Ed Miliband stands massively above the likes of David Cameron, Ian Duncan Smith and George Osborne, indeed above most of this hardline,extreme uncaring cabinet.

I agree totally Joey, we can only hope that there aren't too many hardnosed ' I'm alright jack' types that snub their noses at anyone who didn't go to Oxbridge or Eton voting them back in eh? :)

It is quite a statement livia, as a member of the next cabinet I would trust Rachel Reeves over any of this current shower. Have to say your rather unflattering comment was quite a statement too.

Livia
28-03-2014, 10:42 AM
I agree totally Joey, we can only hope that there aren't too many hardnosed ' I'm alright jack' types that snub their noses at anyone who didn't go to Oxbridge or Eton voting them back in eh? :)

It is quite a statement livia, as a member of the next cabinet I would trust Rachel Reeves over any of this current shower. Have to say your rather unflattering comment was quite a statement too.

I note you comment includes the old "Oxbridge" jibe. I would remind you that despite my academic achievements I am working class, I come from the East End of London. Please stop trying to lump me in with these people because I used to work for them. It's getting very... veeery... old.

Kizzy
28-03-2014, 11:01 AM
My post referred to any blinkered hardline tory voter, if you identify with that fine but it was unintentional.