ITV to make BB bid?

[DigitalSid]

According to The Telegraph, industry rumour is they want it to replace TOWIE on ITV2 now that's moving to ITVBe:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/10740311/Bids-for-Channel-5-expected-to-be-less-than-half-700m-asking-price.html

[Jake.]

I don't want BB on ITV2

[smeagol]

They better not. it needs to stay on 5 if its to carry on improving. itv will destroy it.
they dont take risks they dont do on the edge they do polite tv . and bb is not that.
they will turn it into a soap opera and cut cut cut if they get it

[Matt]

Never gonna happen - if ITV didn't get Big Brother in 2006 or even 2008 then I highly doubt they'll be interested in BB in its current state, especially for ITV2.

[Sawyer]

Never gonna happen - if ITV didn't get Big Brother in 2006 or even 2008 then I highly doubt they'll be interested in BB in its current state, especially for ITV2.

You mention "it's current state". I know ITV2 is a digital channel but Big Brother gets double (if not more) the ratings of TOWIE. I don't think it's completely out the question.

[Vanessa]

I want BB to stay on channel 5. It's improving and i love that they take risks.

[DigitalSid]

Never gonna happen - if ITV didn't get Big Brother in 2006 or even 2008 then I highly doubt they'll be interested in BB in its current state, especially for ITV2.

Did they decline it in 2006 or did Channel 4 just stop delaying and renew it? And why would they be less interested in it for ITV2 than ITV? It's current figures would be great for ITV2, they wouldn't for the main channel and TOWIE, MIC etc have shown digital channels can pull decent enough numbers to justify it. I hope they don't get it for BB's sake, they'd kill it, but I don't think it's completely unlikely given they'll have been reviewing it's success for Channel 5 when considering any bid for the channel as a whole.

[Matt]

You mention "it's current state". I know ITV2 is a digital channel but Big Brother gets double (if not more) the ratings of TOWIE. I don't think it's completely out the question.

I expect it's also a hell of a lot more expensive than TOWIE. That said, in the extremely unlikely circumstance they do take the rights they could split the cost by airing the Celebrity version on ITV.

Plus, we can't assume BB would get the same ratings on ITV2 - there was a large drop between C4 and C5.

[Sawyer]

I expect it's also a hell of a lot more expensive than TOWIE. That said, in the extremely unlikely circumstance they do take the rights they could split the cost by airing the Celebrity version on ITV.

Yeah, CBB would be at home on the main ITV channel. And you make a fair point about it being more expensive, but ITV also have alot more money to spend, and would undoubtedly get a bigger return on the Big Brother brand than it does with TOWIE as they would be able to charge more for product placement and sponsorship tie-ins.

[Rob!]

It would die on any ITV channel. On Channel 5, it's a big fish in a small pond. It would drown on ITV. Mind you, Emma would be able to keep presenting.

[Sawyer]

Did they decline it in 2006 or did Channel 4 just stop delaying and renew it? And why would they be less interested in it for ITV2 than ITV? It's current figures would be great for ITV2, they wouldn't for the main channel and TOWIE, MIC etc have shown digital channels can pull decent enough numbers to justify it. I hope they don't get it for BB's sake, they'd kill it, but I don't think it's completely unlikely given they'll have been reviewing it's success for Channel 5 when considering any bid for the channel as a whole.

I think Channel 4 had first dibs on renewing it and when ITV showed interest Channel 4 panicked as endemol inflated the price to a ridiclous amount £180million for three years.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/news/a35673/report-itv-in-talks-to-poach-big-brother.html

[Vanessa]

On itv it will get more viewers, but would it still be as good? :think:

[Sawyer]

It would die on any ITV channel. On Channel 5, it's a big fish in a small pond. It would drown on ITV. Mind you, Emma would be able to keep presenting.

This is a very valid point.

[Moviefan]

Unless they talking about old BB eps, I would not mind that being on ITV 2!

But new BB on ITV 2
http://www.troll.me/images/angry-meatloaf/hell-no.jpg

[DigitalSid]

It would die on any ITV channel. On Channel 5, it's a big fish in a small pond. It would drown on ITV. Mind you, Emma would be able to keep presenting.

What ITV2 show averages anywhere near CBB's 3 million? It would be a small fish on ITV, it would still be a pretty big one on ITV2.

[Sawyer]

What ITV2 show averages 3 million like CBB?

He makes a valid point regarding ITV shows on a whole. And what digital multichannel do you know that averages 3million? There isn't an audience that big on any digital channel as far as I'm aware?

[T*]

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Imagine the editing and the hm...
It'd just be TOWIE in a house!

[DigitalSid]

He makes a valid point regarding ITV shows on a whole. And what digital multichannel do you know that averages 3million? There isn't an audience that big on any digital channel as far as I'm aware?

He said on any ITV channel, and yes (well, Inbetweeners used to on E4) that's my point, CBB does.

[Matt]

Although I firmly believe it's unlikely ITV will actually take the plunge on Big Brother, it is worth noting that ITV2's director of digital channels is Angela Jain - who was one of Big Brother's commissioning editors in its later Channel 4 years...

[DigitalSid]

Although I firmly believe it's unlikely ITV will actually take the plunge on Big Brother, it is worth noting that ITV2's director of digital channels is Angela Jain - who was one of Big Brother's commissioning editors in its later Channel 4 years...

Oh there's no way anyone but C5 will get it, I agree, current management have made it pretty clear they're still interested and it is coming up to the time when they usually renew, I just wouldn't dismiss ITV2 having at least considered looking at it as an option out of hand, they do need to find something to replace TOWIE on ITV2.

[michael21]

DigitalSid you have made a you have made a school boy error

itvbe is going to be the home of reality shows that the whole point of the channel

[Rob!]

If the contract is signed, how long would the show be signed for, providing it doesn't go tits up?

[DigitalSid]

If the contract is signed, how long would the show be signed for, providing it doesn't go tits up?

Under C5? Till BB17 in 2016.

[Samm]

It's C5 biggest show It will be unlikely that they will get rid of it

What's ITV2 average ratings

[DigitalSid]

DigitalSid you have made a you have made a school boy error

itvbe is going to be the home of reality shows that the whole point of the channel

I'm just paraphrasing the article.

[Matt]

DigitalSid you have made a you have made a school boy error

itvbe is going to be the home of reality shows that the whole point of the channel

I'm just paraphrasing the article.

And adding to that, ITVBe is a lifestyle and reality channel. Things like TOWIE and Real Housewives fit with that remit - Big Brother has the competitive element and the public involvement that would make it a better fit with ITV2's entertainment focus.

[michael21]

I'm just paraphrasing the article.

good point that 2 school boy error you have made

never trust all what the papers say

[DigitalSid]

good point that 2 school boy error you have made

never trust all what the papers say
It's The Telegraph, not The Star.

[JohnnyBB]

This makes sense considering itv went all funny over emma willis a few weeks back.

[arista]

[A series of potential British buyers, including BT, Channel 4 and ITV have ruled themselves out in recent weeks. ]

[michael21]

[A series of potential British buyers, including BT, Channel 4 and ITV have ruled themselves out in recent weeks. ]

that about channel 5 sales the thread about bb

#readthethread

[michael21]

And adding to that, ITVBe is a lifestyle and reality channel. Things like TOWIE and Real Housewives fit with that remit - Big Brother has the competitive element and the public involvement that would make it a better fit with ITV2's entertainment focus.

but itv2 is going to be a different type of channel when itvbe starts i try and fimd a link scrap that i let someone else find a link

[DigitalSid]

[A series of potential British buyers, including BT, Channel 4 and ITV have ruled themselves out in recent weeks. ]

Of buying C5, not BB.

[DigitalSid]

but itv2 is going to be a different type of channel when itvbe starts i try and fimd a link scrap that i let someone else find a link

They said it's going to be the home of unashamed entertainment, which is exactly how I'd describe BB.

[Jamesy]

I would worry more about it on ITV2. It fits in great with the channel although I think we would see less of an online presence and when ratings decline they will ditch it in no hurry. Big Brother still seems more suited and comfortable on C5 imo. ITV could work it out well although I'd rather see the format grow on C5 further.

[JohnnyBB]

If itv are considering buying the rights it would be a really stupid move for channel 4 not to get it back?

[Maxxie.]

It would probably make it even worse as it would be moved down again as it would be itv2 (channel 6) so its like it gets lowered & lowered. Howevvver,

Apparently it might show the celebrity one on itv1 & also the eviction nights for the main series. So i suppose it could work? :/