Who's having a flutter?

[Kazanne]

Will you be having a flutter on The Grand National ? and do you agree with it?
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Personally,I wont and don't approve,you wouldn't believe the stick I've had because of that:hugesmile:

[MTVN]

One of the greatest sporting events of the year, will place a couple of bets tomorrow after having a gander at the morning's tips

[Kazanne]

One of the greatest sporting events of the year, will place a couple of bets tomorrow after having a gander at the morning's tips

Just crossing you off my Christmas card list!!!:hugesmile: Seriously though,I just hope it goes with no fatalities.

[Jords]

Imma pick a horse to place a bet on. I like the sound of Mr Moonshine.

[smeagol]

i will haven't even looked yet. but i might look later whos running. i normally do ok though logically its the worst bet you can do

i dont really agree with it either i wouldn't care if they stopped it. but its not as dangerous as it used to be. The amount of horses being killed everyweek for food would amaze you .
so i try to look at it as least they are doing something and most trainers look after them well and care for them they dont want them injured anymore than we do. the majority anyway

[Kazanne]

i will haven't even looked yet. but i might look later whos running. i normally do ok though logically its the worst bet you can do

i dont really agree with it either i wouldn't care if they stopped it. but its not as dangerous as it used to be. The amount of horses being killed everyweek for food would amaze you .
so i try to look at it as least they are doing something and most trainers look after them well and care for them they dont want them injured anymore than we do. the majority anyway

Are they still allowed to whip them smeagy as I don't like that either:hugesmile:

[smeagol]

Are they still allowed to whip them smeagy as I don't like that either:hugesmile:

yeah i think so. not as much though not sure . they should ban that no need for whips

[Me. I Am Salman]

:flutter:

[Kazanne]

yeah i think so. not as much though not sure . they should ban that no need for whips

I'de probably like it more if the horses were riding the jockys:shocked::joker:

[Kazanne]

:flutter:

Behave ,Salman,NOT that sort of flutter:joker:

[smeagol]

I'de probably like it more if the horses were riding the jockys:shocked::joker:

The ones i bet on would have more lucj if they did that lol

[Vicky.]

God is it that time of year again..

Probably wont put a bet on tbh.

I find it all a bit cruel, the amount of horses that end up being killed at the end of it :shrug:

[James]

I watched the Topham Chase over the Grand National fences today, and there were a lot of heavy falls. It seemed to be the jockeys that came off worst though.

Four are being treated for injuries I read now.

[the truth]

it is a bit cruel isnt it....then again im eating a pig for dinner so im a total hypocrite
as for the horses im backing tea for three mainly because he won cheltenham before and hes a good jumper...he trains in sand down in pembrokeshire and always has the best jockey.....hes not the fastest but hes very solid which is a factor at aintree

[Novo]

Geraghty is in good form and always gives everything on triolo d'alene, the gold cup was disappointing but his jumping was nowhere near its best, i expect him to at least get a place if he finishes the race, just don't want to compete with long Run when there over the last..

[Josy]

Grand National time again already? this years flying in...

I don't know if I will put a bet on or not this time, I feel sorry for the horses every time though.

[the truth]

worth checking whos best on firm ground as it seems it will remain dry

[Kazanne]

I watched the Topham Chase over the Grand National fences today, and there were a lot of heavy falls. It seemed to be the jockeys that came off worst though.

Four are being treated for injuries I read now.

Don't mind the jockeys coming a cropper James as they have a choice and aren't put to sleep if they break a leg:hugesmile:

[Novo]

Much better then being neglected in the field and going without good care and food like so many horses, its only a small % of horses that die compared to the ones that retire healthy and go onto live long life's so dressage etc, when you see the likes of Kauto Star and Franklin's Career and where they are now you know its all worth while

[Kazanne]

Grand National time again already? this years flying in...

I don't know if I will put a bet on or not this time, I feel sorry for the horses every time though.

It's nice that people have fun Josy,it's just something I cant watch as ,same as you always feel sorry for the horses.

[Cherie]

I never really thought about horse racing, and the GN is the only one I ever put a bet on but after all the horse fatalities a few years back, not so keen now. Don't think I will bother.

[Sophiee]

I'm thinking about placing a small bet on tomorrow, not sure on which horse yet though, I'm going to have a look at odds etc first.

[Kazanne]

I never really thought about horse racing, and the GN is the only one I ever put a bet on but after all the horse fatalities a few years back, not so keen now. Don't think I will bother.

I've bet on it a couple of times,but as I have taken more notice of it,I've not liked what I've seen,so that for me has put me off,we can nip to the pub:hugesmile:

[Alf]

Mine are on already, and have taken the prices

Balthazar King 14/1 £5 win
Colbert Station 50/1 £2.50 win
Hawkes Point 40/1 £2.50 win

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have never missed a bet (apart from that year it was cx due to bomb scare) since i was knee high to a grasshopper so of course

[King Gizzard]

There weren't any deaths last year were there? And the one death there was wasn't to do with it being the national, would have happened if it was just jotting around in the field

[King Gizzard]

I don't bet, but I think Monbeg Dude

[joeysteele]

Usually any horse I like in a race would be better if it carried the Jockey rather than the other way round.

I guess I am no good at any gambling.

However in the Grand National sweepstake on here, oddly enough Nathan has given me the 2 horses my Dad is backing in it so I may make the effort too.

[King Gizzard]

Destiny Joey

[Cherie]

I've bet on it a couple of times,but as I have taken more notice of it,I've not liked what I've seen,so that for me has put me off,we can nip to the pub:hugesmile:

Sounds like a plan!


you saw your neighbour whipping a dog, you'd be on the phone to the police immediately, right? Of course, anyone with a shred of decency condemns hurting animals. Yet, inexplicably, some still turn a blind eye to the premeditated cruelty to horses during the Grand National, in which riders are required to carry a whip. Every year, racehorses sustain catastrophic injuries. Many pay with their lives.

When 40 skittish horses are jammed onto a treacherous obstacle course, viciously whipped, and forced into jumping, breakdowns are inevitable. Last year, only 17 – fewer than half – finished the Grand National, and while the race organisers were quick to highlight an absence of fatalities after last year's main event, they conveniently failed to mention that the same course killed two horses earlier in the week. According to research by Animal Aid in 2012, Aintree was the most lethal of all of Britain's racecourses, claiming the lives of six horses in just eight days of racing.

Treated like wind-up toys – their fragile limbs pushed to and sometimes beyond breaking point – many horses sustain fractured legs or necks or severed tendons, while others have heart attacks. Every year, hundreds of horses die on British racetracks. Thousands more are turned into dog food when they stop winning.

The mindset that horses are little more than tools to be used, abused and discarded is entrenched in the racing industry. Ruby Walsh's comment that horses are "replaceable" is deeply offensive. Horses are not unfeeling – they experience joy, anxiety, fear and affection. They are also clever and perceptive, as anyone who has seen a horse figure out how to open stable-door latches will tell you. However, Walsh's comments were prophetic: the very next day, two more horses died on the Cheltenham track.

Drugs, both legal and illegal, are as ubiquitous at the racetrack as silly-looking hats are at Ascot. Horses are often drugged to mask pain and keep them running when they should be resting or receiving treatment. Raced too young and too hard, when their bones are not up to the pounding and stress, horses used in racing endure injuries, lameness and exhaustion. Last year, Godolphin trainer Mahmood al-Zarooni was banned from racing for eight years after being found guilty of doping offences.

People who care about horses should turn their backs on the Grand National and every other race in which horses are being run to death. This cruelty will end only when the public realises that there is no such thing as a "harmless flutter" when it comes to funding the cruel and exploitative horse-racing industry.


Enjoy your flutter!

[Kazanne]

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Sounds like a plan!


you saw your neighbour whipping a dog, you'd be on the phone to the police immediately, right? Of course, anyone with a shred of decency condemns hurting animals. Yet, inexplicably, some still turn a blind eye to the premeditated cruelty to horses during the Grand National, in which riders are required to carry a whip. Every year, racehorses sustain catastrophic injuries. Many pay with their lives.

When 40 skittish horses are jammed onto a treacherous obstacle course, viciously whipped, and forced into jumping, breakdowns are inevitable. Last year, only 17 – fewer than half – finished the Grand National, and while the race organisers were quick to highlight an absence of fatalities after last year's main event, they conveniently failed to mention that the same course killed two horses earlier in the week. According to research by Animal Aid in 2012, Aintree was the most lethal of all of Britain's racecourses, claiming the lives of six horses in just eight days of racing.

Treated like wind-up toys – their fragile limbs pushed to and sometimes beyond breaking point – many horses sustain fractured legs or necks or severed tendons, while others have heart attacks. Every year, hundreds of horses die on British racetracks. Thousands more are turned into dog food when they stop winning.

The mindset that horses are little more than tools to be used, abused and discarded is entrenched in the racing industry. Ruby Walsh's comment that horses are "replaceable" is deeply offensive. Horses are not unfeeling – they experience joy, anxiety, fear and affection. They are also clever and perceptive, as anyone who has seen a horse figure out how to open stable-door latches will tell you. However, Walsh's comments were prophetic: the very next day, two more horses died on the Cheltenham track.

Drugs, both legal and illegal, are as ubiquitous at the racetrack as silly-looking hats are at Ascot. Horses are often drugged to mask pain and keep them running when they should be resting or receiving treatment. Raced too young and too hard, when their bones are not up to the pounding and stress, horses used in racing endure injuries, lameness and exhaustion. Last year, Godolphin trainer Mahmood al-Zarooni was banned from racing for eight years after being found guilty of doping offences.

People who care about horses should turn their backs on the Grand National and every other race in which horses are being run to death. This cruelty will end only when the public realises that there is no such thing as a "harmless flutter" when it comes to funding the cruel and exploitative horse-racing industry.


Enjoy your flutter!

Food for thought right there Cherie,a good read,thanks for that.

[Beso]

Will you be having a flutter on The Grand National ? and do you agree with it?
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Personally,I wont and don't approve,you wouldn't believe the stick I've had because of that:hugesmile:

BUT YOU AGREE WITH A BEAR BEING TRAPPED AND RAISED AS A HUMAN:joker:

[Kizzy]

Great post cherie! I didn't have a flutter and I don't agree with horse racing.

[smeagol]

i done it and won :) i had a psychic thing when i woke up that a french sounding name would win. so i had a look at the card and there was loads of em lol. but that horse name seemed like the one i heard called out so i stuck to my words for once and done it.not much money though i play small.
luckily all got home ok. very happy about that. thats the most important thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I got 4th and won £10

[smeagol]

I got 4th and won £10

did you have your own horse lol