Should there be gay clubs?

[Conzors]

I mean, I, personally, do not agree with them at all. I go once in a blue moon because i HATE the vibe. It always feels like everyone has to shag everyone or someone has to pull just because your in a gay club - it does NOTHING for gay stereotypes.

Also, most importantly, Gay people are putting themselves into a separate category and stereotyping themselves for going to these clubs because their 'gay clubs', arguing that they should be allowed to fit in and should be able to walk the streets without abuse, yet they are segregating themselves into one lousy place.

If there were such a thing called 'straight clubs' they would be a big uproar.

I just genuinley dont understand it, its a huge contradiction and should be gone.

[MTVN]

There is no need to have straight clubs really though is there, basically every club in the world is a straight club

[lostalex]

if it's not for you it's not for you. don't see why you want to make sweeping generalizations about them though.

I'm not into straight strip clubs, but i don't give a **** if other people enjoy them.

go where you wanna go. period.

[Conzors]

if it's not for you it's not for you. don't see why you want to make sweeping generalizations about them though.

I'm not into straight strip clubs, but i don't give a **** if other people enjoy them.

I enjoy myself when i go there but i just don't agree with the whole point of it all. I dont give a **** if other people enjoy them either but its a huge contradiction.

[Vicky.]

I get where you are coming from with the segregation thing tbh

However in my entirely selfish opinion...yes there should be gay clubs, as its a better night out in them and you tend to get no trouble :laugh:

[lostalex]

I enjoy myself when i go there but i just don't agree with the whole point of it all. I dont give a **** if other people enjoy them either but its a huge contradiction.

i've never heard of a gay club that doesn't let in straight people, so i don't even know exactly what you are disagreeing with.

[Firewire]

they exist as a place for gay people to feel accepted and meet other gay people -- it's your choice if you want to hook up with someone but i think it's a good thing, plus straight people are allowed in

[Smithy]

If there were such a thing called 'straight clubs' they would be a big uproar.


but gay clubs don't only allow in gay guys, it's not like you've got to suck a dick to get in


It's just an easy way to meet other gay people, in a "normal" nightclub if you can't tell you might get punched :shrug:

[Conzors]

i've never heard of a gay club that doesn't let in straight people, so i don't even know exactly what you are disagreeing with.

the whole idea of them, if you dont know what im saying then theres no point me explaining again.

[Conzors]

i've never heard of a gay club that doesn't let in straight people, so i don't even know exactly what you are disagreeing with.

they exist as a place for gay people to feel accepted and meet other gay people -- it's your choice if you want to hook up with someone but i think it's a good thing, plus straight people are allowed in

but gay clubs don't only allow in gay guys, it's not like you've got to suck a dick to get in

yeah but going back to what i said..

'allowed in' yes i know their allowed in but why should a sexuality even come into it? A club is a club and should remain a club. That's like putting a sign onto a coffee shop saying ' gays welcome' were all human, so why does it have to be straight this and gay that i just dont get it!

I understand the comfort and accepted etc but if gay people want to be equal then why all this seperate stuff thats aimed just at gay people?

[Vicky.]

but gay clubs don't only allow in gay guys, it's not like you've got to suck a dick to get in

Having said that, me and gav were turned away from a gay bar years back for being straight..so it does happen. Just not often as we have had no problem since then.

However it has to be said, that this particular club had a 'blacks only' room too upstairs (you did not have to be gay to go in the black room) where our gay mates who we had been out with were turned away from on the same night, so they werent the most tolerant of people to begin with. This has all been done away with now though, which I am glad about.

It was a strange night.

[lostalex]

Having said that, me and gav were turned away from a gay bar years back for being straight..so it does happen. Just not often as we have had no problem since then.

However it has to be said, that this particular club had a 'blacks only' room too upstairs (you did not have to be gay to go in the black room) where our gay mates who we had been out with were turned away from on the same night, so they werent the most tolerant of people to begin with. This has all been done away with now though, which I am glad about.

It was a strange night.

maybe they were trying to be nice saying it was because you were "straight"... no offense...

[Smithy]

maybe they were trying to be nice saying it was because you were "straight"... no offense...

:laugh2:

[Vicky.]

maybe they were trying to be nice saying it was because you were "straight"... no offense...

No idea what you mean by this, but the need to add no offense implies that offense was intended :suspect:

[Samm]

they exist as a place for gay people to feel accepted and meet other gay people -- it's your choice if you want to hook up with someone but i think it's a good thing, plus straight people are allowed in

This.

[Shaun]

Nothing wrong with them... also, re: the cheap and easy sex argument... have you been to a normal club? It was quite common to see girls blowing guys on dancefloors in my first year at uni :laugh:

It always feels like everyone has to shag everyone or someone has to pull just because your in a gay club - it does NOTHING for gay stereotypes

well thank god you aren't propagating them :suspect:

[Conzors]

yeah but going back to what i said..

'allowed in' yes i know their allowed in but why should a sexuality even come into it? A club is a club and should remain a club. That's like putting a sign onto a coffee shop saying ' gays welcome' were all human, so why does it have to be straight this and gay that i just dont get it!

I understand the comfort and accepted etc but if gay people want to be equal then why all this seperate stuff thats aimed just at gay people?

going back to the point

[Conzors]

Nothing wrong with them... also, re: the cheap and easy sex argument... have you been to a normal club? It was quite common to see girls blowing guys on dancefloors in my first year at uni :laugh:



well thank god you aren't propagating them :suspect:

I'll fly past your term of a 'normal' club.

Yeah it happens everywhere but just because your in a gay club doesnt mean you want to shag everything.

[Benjamin]

Meh not a fan of gay clubs, have been to them, have a good laugh on the odd times I do/have, but I'm not into the scene and bitchy queens and drag queens in general piss me off.

[Conzors]

Meh not a fan of gay clubs, have been to them, have a good laugh on the odd times I do/have, but I'm not into the scene and bitchy queens and drag queens in general piss me off.

this!

[Benjamin]

I get that some gay guys are though, each to their own and all, it's just not who I am.

[Benjamin]

I know that, but clubs compacts a lot of them in one place, and it really isn't my scene.

[Conzors]

I know that, but clubs compacts a lot of them in one place, and it really isn't my scene.

agree

[Vicky.]

There does seem to be a disproportional amount of 'stereotypical' gays/lesbians frequenting gay bars. Its probably because its harder for them to 'fit in' elsewhere I guess. Most gay guys I know prefer 'straight' bars but this might be because they dont screech loudly, jump up and down and clap like a seal whenever a lady gaga song comes on. I suspect if someone went on like that in a 'straight' bar, rightly or wrongly they would get odd looks which would make them feel uncomfortable...

[Shaun]

basically what we all need is more bear bars

[Conzors]

There does seem to be a disproportional amount of 'stereotypical' gays/lesbians frequenting gay bars. Its probably because its harder for them to 'fit in' elsewhere I guess. Most gay guys I know prefer 'straight' bars but this might be because they dont screech loudly, jump up and down and clap like a seal whenever a lady gaga song comes on. I suspect if someone went on like that in a 'straight' bar, rightly or wrongly they would get odd looks which would make them feel uncomfortable...

This.

And i do personally believe all these ladyboys that you talk about believe they HAVE to act like that because its what society has told them that thats how gay people act.

Ridic.

[Benjamin]

basically what we all need is more bear bars

::lovedup:

[Firewire]

flop thread

[Me. I Am Salman]

well thank god you aren't propagating them :suspect:

:laugh:

[Conzors]

flop thread

Its a discussion Jonathan.
I don't agree with most of the things on here but its a discussion where ALL opinions are going to be.

Just because some dont agree with you, you dont need to become all immature.

[Firewire]

well thank god you aren't propagating them :suspect:

:hehe:

[Firewire]

Its a discussion Jonathan.
I don't agree with most of the things on here but its a discussion where ALL opinions are going to be.

Just because some dont agree with you, you dont need to become all immature.

It was just a joke omg

[Vicky.]

basically what we all need is more bear bars

I think I have been in one of these, I will be honest it scared the **** out of me.

Big hairy bikers waking round in chaps, glory holes in the mens toilets, and a bondage room downstairs with a viewing area :o

[Me. I Am Salman]

Its a discussion Jonathan.
I don't agree with most of the things on here but its a discussion where ALL opinions are going to be.

Just because some dont agree with you, you dont need to become all immature.

calm down homophobe

[Benjamin]

I think I have been in one of these, I will be honest it scared the **** out of me.

Big hairy bikers waking round in chaps, glory holes in the mens toilets, and a bondage room downstairs with a viewing area :o

:lovedup:

[Smithy]

I think I have been in one of these, I will be honest it scared the **** out of me.

Big hairy bikers waking round in chaps, glory holes in the mens toilets, and a bondage room downstairs with a viewing area :o

why were you in the mens toilets :think:

[Conzors]

calm down homophobe

**** off fagggotttttttttt

[Benjamin]

Oh yeah, Vicky, weirdo.

[james130]

Never really been to one.
Went in a group of lads before and got turned away for not "looking like the regular clientèle."
Sorry for us looking too straight. :|

Doesn't really appeal to me.

[Samm]

I don't get drag queens tbh I don't think anybody finds them hot in anyway it's more likely to turn me off since it's a man dressed as a women

[Firewire]

i heard gay support groups are quite good for meeting gay people

[Smithy]

lbr here there just shouldn't be gays in general, we should just exterminate them all

[Me. I Am Salman]

**** off fagggotttttttttt

actually speechless
I will.

[Vicky.]

why were you in the mens toilets :think:

I wasnt, gav told me about that :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Plus anyway I have discovered that mens and womens toilets mean nothing in gay bars :hmph:

[Shaun]

lbr here there just shouldn't be gays in general, we should just exterminate them all

don't even pretend that gaga wouldn't have 2 fans left if this happened

[Jack_]

Until people stop assuming that everyone is straight and therefore you can go into any club and try hitting on anyone without risking being beaten up, there's every reason for gay bars and clubs to exist. It's just an easier way for people to meet one another

I want to go to one one day, I've heard they're pretty hilarious

[lostalex]

i heard gay support groups are quite good for meeting gay people

and choirs. oh and i hear rugby is big with the queers lately...

all sorts of gay rugby teams going on. (I think they just like the knee high socks)

[Conzors]

actually speechless
I will.

I was joking :(

[Benjamin]

Rugby :lovedup:

[waterhog]

with this world of discrimination we live in - it is wrong to refuse entry to anyone and there for can not have a specific on a club. which is only fare and correct for everyone.

[Marsh.]

I think I have been in one of these, I will be honest it scared the **** out of me.

Big hairy bikers waking round in chaps, glory holes in the mens toilets, and a bondage room downstairs with a viewing area :o

You stuck your finger through didn't you? :smug:

[Marsh.]

I wasnt, gav told me about that :laugh:

In there a long time was he? :hehe:

[thesheriff443]

and there was me thinking everyone had turned bi sexual.
on a serious note!, I have never been to a gay club, but I have been in a club with gays.

its a choice thing really, I get what the op is saying,
its like gay guys hooking up in public toilets, its bad for gays in general.

[AnnieK]

The gay village in Manchester is a great night out - little trouble....but its not uncommon for the bouncers on a busy night to turn people away stating "gays only" which just would not be tolerated elsewhere with clubs saying "straights only". That's my only gripe.

[MTVN]

All clubs discriminate quite arbitrarily mind, like a lot of places won't let you in just if you're a group of all males if it ruins their ratios

[michael21]

I mean, I, personally, do not agree with them at all. I go once in a blue moon because i HATE the vibe. It always feels like everyone has to shag everyone or someone has to pull just because your in a gay club - it does NOTHING for gay stereotypes.

Also, most importantly, Gay people are putting themselves into a separate category and stereotyping themselves for going to these clubs because their 'gay clubs', arguing that they should be allowed to fit in and should be able to walk the streets without abuse, yet they are segregating themselves into one lousy place.

If there were such a thing called 'straight clubs' they would be a big uproar.

I just genuinley dont understand it, its a huge contradiction and should be gone.

if you go in a none gay club some times girls kiss i don't know if that helps

[thesheriff443]

All clubs discriminate quite arbitrarily mind, like a lot of places won't let you in just if you're a group of all males if it ruins their ratios

yes, dont want a club full of gays:joker:

[Withano]

Don't you think be-ridding successful things because you dislike them is unnecessary and illogical? I do

[Crimson Dynamo]

there are so few gay people that they need them to get laid if they dont like manky toilets or bushes

[smeagol]

I'm not gay but i used to go to a gay club/bar all the time. great places. i used to go with family and friends and my girlfriends at the time.
plenty of straight people and so easy to pull girls funny enough in a gay bar. less competetion if your straight i guess lol.
but what i liked about it was it was friendly. never any trouble. you go to any normal bar or club your always on your guard. but you can relax in a gay bar. and just enjoy yourself.
of course they should have them. everynight there's hot girls snogging eachother they cant do that in a normal bar. they would get hassle and get chucked out.

[arista]

I mean, I, personally, do not agree with them at all. I go once in a blue moon because i HATE the vibe. It always feels like everyone has to shag everyone or someone has to pull just because your in a gay club - it does NOTHING for gay stereotypes.

Also, most importantly, Gay people are putting themselves into a separate category and stereotyping themselves for going to these clubs because their 'gay clubs', arguing that they should be allowed to fit in and should be able to walk the streets without abuse, yet they are segregating themselves into one lousy place.

If there were such a thing called 'straight clubs' they would be a big uproar.

I just genuinley dont understand it, its a huge contradiction and should be gone.

Yes Gay Clubs must be in every City. (even in Ireland)
as so many Pro Gays Demand it.

Not you Conzors
but maybe for you only
you need a London Central one
that is bigger
then at least there are sections and to stay in profit
they have specials.


Its a money making game first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Gay Clubs must be in every City. (even in Ireland)
as so many Pro Gays Demand it.

Not you Conzors
but maybe for you only
you need a London Central one
that is bigger
then at least there are sections and to stay in profit
they have specials.


Its a money making game first.

Yes Arista i agree but obviously not near schools or farms :nono:

[Niamh.]

Yes Gay Clubs must be in every City. (even in Ireland)
as so many Pro Gays Demand it.

Not you Conzors
but maybe for you only
you need a London Central one
that is bigger
then at least there are sections and to stay in profit
they have specials.


Its a money making game first.

What do you mean "even" in Ireland? :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

What do you mean "even" in Ireland? :suspect:

Isnt it illegal in Ireland unless you are a Priest?

[arista]

I think I have been in one of these, I will be honest it scared the **** out of me.

Big hairy bikers waking round in chaps, glory holes in the mens toilets, and a bondage room downstairs with a viewing area :o


Was it called Spunk City?

[arista]

What do you mean "even" in Ireland? :suspect:


Over there
its more anti gay
with respect

[Niamh.]

Over there
its more anti gay
with respect

How do you know? hhhmmmm?

[arista]

How do you know? hhhmmmm?


There have been Docu's on that problem
and its in the press a great deal.

[King Gizzard]

yea

[michael21]

Over there
its more anti gay
with respect

it not fare to label every one in Ireland :nono::nono::nono:

[Niamh.]

There have been Docu's on that problem
and its in the press a great deal.

It's been in the press when? I must miss all of these, I've read more stories about anti gay British stories than Irish ones tbf

[Crimson Dynamo]

it not fare to label every one in Ireland :nono::nono::nono:

Precisely as there is a much more modern part at the top where they dont bare knuckle box

[arista]

It will take Ireland 50 years to change
then all the old Anti Gays will be dust

[Niamh.]

It will take Ireland 50 years to change
then all the old Anti Gays will be dust

feck off Arista, Britain has as many "older generation anti gay people" as Ireland does

[Braden]

I don't think gay bars implement segregation, but instead are just a specific type of brand? It's quite harmless really.

Like other people have said, gay people can go into other bars and straight people can go into gay bars?

[arista]

feck off Arista, Britain has as many "older generation anti gay people" as Ireland does


Sure but it will only take around 30 years here

[Z]

I get where you're coming from but I think it's just a bit of a niche in the same way that there are rock bars where moshers would go or cocktail bars where pretty girls in short dresses would go... it's just a place that you can go if that's where you feel most comfortable. I think it's good that they exist. I think it would be better if there was more variety, so it's not just "this is the gay bar where all gay people go" but I think that sort of exists anyway, I know quite a few art school-esque gay guys who, funnily enough, go to art school sorts of venues and they manage to meet people there, that's where they feel most comfortable. I think it's important to have a space where you feel safe and you feel in your element in, in terms of night life.

[Redway]

Don't see what the problem with them is... haven't been to one myself but there are loads of different nightclubs and gay ones are just one type? It's not like straight people are barred for life.

[Ammi]

..my son went to one recently with a friend of his who had just 'come out' as gay...maybe they are good for people who have just come out..?..

[arista]

I get where you're coming from but I think it's just a bit of a niche in the same way that there are rock bars where moshers would go or cocktail bars where pretty girls in short dresses would go... it's just a place that you can go if that's where you feel most comfortable. I think it's good that they exist. I think it would be better if there was more variety, so it's not just "this is the gay bar where all gay people go" but I think that sort of exists anyway, I know quite a few art school-esque gay guys who, funnily enough, go to art school sorts of venues and they manage to meet people there, that's where they feel most comfortable. I think it's important to have a space where you feel safe and you feel in your element in, in terms of night life.


Spunky

[Z]

Also, my heterosexual best friend has a 100% pulling record in gay bars, he met his last girlfriend in one :laugh: it's not just for gay people, it's just a place where gay people can be open and not have to be wary like they might be elsewhere

[King Gizzard]

Might have more luck getting girls in gay clubs with all the LADZ being too scared to go in

[Conzors]

I get where you're coming from but I think it's just a bit of a niche in the same way that there are rock bars where moshers would go or cocktail bars where pretty girls in short dresses would go... it's just a place that you can go if that's where you feel most comfortable. I think it's good that they exist. I think it would be better if there was more variety, so it's not just "this is the gay bar where all gay people go" but I think that sort of exists anyway, I know quite a few art school-esque gay guys who, funnily enough, go to art school sorts of venues and they manage to meet people there, that's where they feel most comfortable. I think it's important to have a space where you feel safe and you feel in your element in, in terms of night life.

..my son went to one recently with a friend of his who had just 'come out' as gay...maybe they are good for people who have just come out..?..

Don't see what the problem with them is... haven't been to one myself but there are loads of different nightclubs and gay ones are just one type? It's not like straight people are barred for life.

I completely understand the whole comfort thing, i really do.
But i just dont think there should be a label on them.
Like this is a gay club... sorta thing.