Sir Cliff Richard - would it matter if I were gay?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608698/What-difference-make-I-WAS-gay-Sir-Cliff-Richard-addresses-continual-rumours-sexuality.html



Sir Cliff Richard has addressed long-running rumours about his sexuality, asking a television interviewer: ‘If I was gay would it make any difference?’

The veteran singer, who has never married, said speculation about his possible homosexuality was painful when he was younger but that it had ceased to concern him



I think some big scandal is about to hit the fan...

[arista]

Let him be old
and out of the news

[Crimson Dynamo]

not this old line from celebs again

the answer is of course yes.

[Kate!]

He's definitely gay IMO - It's a shame he's never felt secure enough to openly acknowledge it (if I'm right and I'm pretty sure) and also maybe he's been in deep denial even to himself. If he is then I expect life has been very hard for him and I feel for him immensely, I've never particularly liked the man but can't help but admire him now for what he will have been through.

Also he's very talented and even though I've never been fussed on him personally I love his music, all of it.

[Kate!]

And my answer to his question is no it wouldn't matter in the slightest, you'd have my utmost admiration in fact.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And my answer to his question is no it wouldn't matter in the slightest, you'd have my utmost admiration in fact.

and you dont think his cynical marketing reasons for not admitting it are somewhat suspect?

[Kate!]

and you dont think his cynical marketing reasons for not admitting it are somewhat suspect?

No I don't on the whole because it's far more 'acceptable' now, and I'd like to think attitudes have relaxed a lot towards homosexuality. Although obviously there's still a lot of prejudice and homophobia, I'm not naive enough to think otherwise, and then there's the aspect for him personally that he's a practicing Christian - he must have been torn apart all these years, which is why I think he's been in denial even to himself. I doubt he's ever actively engaged in any sort of homosexual relationship either. As I said in my previous post I really feel for him and admire him as a result.

[thesheriff443]

stiff Richard!, old turkey neck, can p*ss off!.

[Crimson Dynamo]

stiff Richard!, old turkey neck, can p*ss off!.

what you talkin about Willis

this song is a legend

htZir_Taizg

[thesheriff443]

what you talkin about Willis

this song is a legend

htZir_Taizg

erm, erm, ok!

[Livia]

Cliff Richard became a star in the nineteen fifties. he's been going for decades, has a massive following and just doesn't get the credit he's due for that. He's not my cup of tea, but I can acknowledge what an amazing career he's had. Pisses me off when people take the mick. And on the gay issue, when he started in the fifties, being gay was an offence. If he is gay, he's denied it for years and it's probably become hard to admit. Of course, he might not be. What business is it of anyone? This one comment he made was probably taken out of context and sensationalised. Leave the man alone. What he does in the privacy of his own bedroom is his own business.

[Kate!]

Liv :worship:

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is a british institution and used to own christmas

[thesheriff443]

Cliff Richard became a star in the nineteen fifties. he's been going for decades, has a massive following and just doesn't get the credit he's due for that. He's not my cup of tea, but I can acknowledge what an amazing career he's had. Pisses me off when people take the mick. And on the gay issue, when he started in the fifties, being gay was an offence. If he is gay, he's denied it for years and it's probably become hard to admit. Of course, he might not be. What business is it of anyone? This one comment he made was probably taken out of context and sensationalised. Leave the man alone. What he does in the privacy of his own bedroom is his own business.

yes leave the man alone!, im not interested in the man!
made a lot of money out of music, don't think he has given a lot back in the way of charity work, or anything else for that matter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes leave the man alone!, im not interested in the man!
made a lot of money out of music, don't think he has given a lot back in the way of charity work, or anything else for that matter.

he has single handedly kept the calendar business going for 50 years

[Josy]

Totally agree with everything Livia posted

yes leave the man alone!, im not interested in the man!
made a lot of money out of music, don't think he has given a lot back in the way of charity work, or anything else for that matter.

What?

You think very wrong then.

[Kate!]

He's done tons for charities :conf:

[thesheriff443]

Totally agree with everything Livia posted



What?

You think very wrong then.

do I, never heard of him being linked to any charity work.

[Jake.]

Couldn't agree more Livia. Not only that, he isn't some young, pop-star teenager. Revealing his sexuality isn't going to have thousands suddenly love him to buy his music. His fan-base exists, I doubt that many of the younger generation knows who he is.

[thesheriff443]

he has single handedly kept the calendar business going for 50 years

truth now!, how many have you brought?.

[AnnieK]

Cliff Richard has supported the following charities:

Alzheimer's Research UK
Cliff Richard Tennis Foundation
Kidney Research UK
Olivia Newton-John Cancer & Wellness Centre
Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation
Street Child Africa
TEARfund
Teenage Cancer Trust
The Hunger Project

To name a few.......

[Jake.]

'Since March 1966, Richard has followed the practice of giving away at least a tenth of his income to charity. Richard has stated that two biblical principles have guided him in how to use his money. He said: "Firstly, it was the love of money (not money itself) that was the root of all evil. Secondly, to be good and responsible stewards of what was entrusted to us."

For over 40 years Richard has been an active supporter of Tearfund, a Christian charity that aims to tackle poverty in many countries across the world. He has made a number of overseas visits to see their work first-hand in countries such as Uganda, Bangladesh and Brazil. Richard has said: "Playing a part in relieving poverty is, as I see it, the responsibility of us all."

Richard has been described as "a generous donor" to a leading dementia research charity, Alzheimer's Research UK. He has helped to raise funds and awareness of the disease by speaking publicly about his mother's condition.

Richard has also supported numerous UK charities over many years through the Cliff Richard Charitable Trust, both through donations and by making personal visits to schools, churches, hospitals and homes for special needs children. Richard's passion for tennis, which was encouraged by his former girlfriend Sue Barker, also led him in 1991 to establish the Cliff Richard Tennis Foundation. The charity has encouraged thousands of primary schools in the UK to introduce the sport, with over 200,000 children taking part in the tennis sessions which tour the country. The Foundation has since become part of the charitable wing of the Lawn Tennis Association.

The Cliff Richard Charitable Trust gives grants on a quarterly basis, with about 50 different UK registered charities benefiting each time. Richard's Trust mainly donates funds to charities working in medical research, with children and the elderly, and for those involved in helping people with disabilities.'

[Crimson Dynamo]

truth now!, how many have you brought?.

i have bought about 10 for my gran in the 80s - that and terrys all gold she got for chrimbo:dance:

[thesheriff443]

Cliff Richard has supported the following charities:

Alzheimer's Research UK
Cliff Richard Tennis Foundation
Kidney Research UK
Olivia Newton-John Cancer & Wellness Centre
Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation
Street Child Africa
TEARfund
Teenage Cancer Trust
The Hunger Project

To name a few.......

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

[thesheriff443]

i have bought about 10 for my gran in the 80s - that and terrys all gold she got for chrimbo:dance:

I want to be you're gran.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I want to be you're gran.

she is dead

[thesheriff443]

she is dead

im sorry you're loss!.

[Ammi]

..I agree with everything Liv has said and I think that most of his charity work is unknown because he doesn't publicise it, he has his own charity trust which gives grants to various charity organisations...

[Ammi]

..also, Summer Holiday..:lovedup:...King Cliff..

[Cherie]

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

Pretty sure he has been honoured by the Queen for his Charity work Sheriff. :suspect:

[Kate!]

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

A very good point, and just further shows their characters, IMO their motivations were/are poles apart. Jimmy was all for show, and I'd even say he used it to facilitate access to vulnerable people - vile man. Cliff has never sought publicity for his own endeavours, the more I now think about him the more and more I admire the man.

[thesheriff443]

Pretty sure he has been honoured by the Queen for his Charity work Sheriff. :suspect:

I must of missed that!, but like I said, not interest in the man or his sexual preferences.

[Jake.]

I must of missed that!, but like I said, not interest in the man or his sexual preferences.

Why click on the thread then? :laugh:

[Livia]

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

It's a Christian thing. "Be not like the Hypocrites for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men". I always get the impression that Cliff Richard's a Christian first and a celebrity second. I doubt he'd ever use charity work for publicity purposes except to draw attention to the charity itself.

[thesheriff443]

Why click on the thread then? :laugh:

why drink?, because we both can.

[Livia]

why drink?, because we both can.

You should be encouraged to click on every thread. It's amusing to see everyone school ya!

[thesheriff443]

You should be encouraged to click on every thread. It's amusing to see everyone school ya!

really, opinions are like arse holes, we all have one.

[Jake.]

why drink?, because we both can.

Yes but I drink because I enjoy drinking

[thesheriff443]

Yes but I drink because I enjoy drinking

and I post, because I enjoy posting.

[Jake.]

Touché

[Kizzy]

I think it was his faith that kept him in the closet so long, hopefully now the Christian faith is more accepting of homosexuality more Christian homosexuals will feel they can express themselves freely.

[Z]

really, opinions are like arse holes, we all have one.

"Opinions are like arse holes, I wanna stick my tongue way up your opinion"

Anyway, he grew up in a very different time to now and even if the UK's generally a more accepting place than it was back then; his fanbase are also from that era he grew up in - why would you want to alienate them now (or risk alienating them now) when you've already lived a lie your entire life (if he is indeed gay) - and as he says, would it matter? It wouldn't change all the records he sold or people he entertained and their memories of that, it's his personal life, and it's not like he played on the whole sexuality thing for a publicity stunt... he just decided to omit his love life from his public persona, unlike say Jessie J who played the "I'm a bisexual! Now I'm not!" card purely for her career, which is the exact opposite from what Cliff has done.

[smeagol]

Ive met him a few times. its obvious he is gay. but with his religious beliefs i doubt you will hear about it until he is gone.
it wont matter to the world if he is or isnt

[reece(:]

Who gives a sh*t

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who gives a sh*t

his fans yu dumpling

[joeysteele]

Cliff Richard became a star in the nineteen fifties. he's been going for decades, has a massive following and just doesn't get the credit he's due for that. He's not my cup of tea, but I can acknowledge what an amazing career he's had. Pisses me off when people take the mick. And on the gay issue, when he started in the fifties, being gay was an offence. If he is gay, he's denied it for years and it's probably become hard to admit. Of course, he might not be. What business is it of anyone? This one comment he made was probably taken out of context and sensationalised. Leave the man alone. What he does in the privacy of his own bedroom is his own business.

First class post, perfectly stated and totally right too, I agree with every word.

[Marsh.]

yes leave the man alone!, im not interested in the man!
made a lot of money out of music, don't think he has given a lot back in the way of charity work, or anything else for that matter.

:suspect: Are you joking?
What business is it of anyone whether he donates to charity or not? Do you?
It's his money to do with as he pleases.

[Vicky.]

Cliff Richard became a star in the nineteen fifties. he's been going for decades, has a massive following and just doesn't get the credit he's due for that. He's not my cup of tea, but I can acknowledge what an amazing career he's had. Pisses me off when people take the mick. And on the gay issue, when he started in the fifties, being gay was an offence. If he is gay, he's denied it for years and it's probably become hard to admit. Of course, he might not be. What business is it of anyone? This one comment he made was probably taken out of context and sensationalised. Leave the man alone. What he does in the privacy of his own bedroom is his own business.

:thumbs:

Not a fan personally tbh, but as you say, his careers has been amazing...he seems a sound bloke and I don't really see the need for people to take the piss :shrug:

As for the question..no it wouldn't matter one bit. Good on him for not giving into the pressure of revealing details of his private life... and if he is gay and just hasnt blabbed it all over the papers for a bit of publicity like it seems the in thing to do at the moment, then even better on him.