Why do Chat & Games posts not count?

[Headie]

I only found this out the other day and it explains why I haven't reached 5k yet.

What is the actual reason for them not counting towards your post count? I genuinely can't see why not. :conf:

[Z]

To stop people spamming and getting high post counts (e.g. games like Last Person To Post Is Sexy) but then with the advent of +1/-1 games it seems a bit redundant to me now.

[Roy Mars III]

no good reason

[Locke.]

They only count for people with above 5k posts

[InOne]

Because it's mostly nonsense there.

[Roy Mars III]

only mods get to post nonsense and have it count

[Headie]

To stop people spamming and getting high post counts (e.g. games like Last Person To Post Is Sexy) but then with the advent of +1/-1 games it seems a bit redundant to me now.

But that's where the main chat happens, and also forum games like Elimination, Coach Tip etc where people take time out of their lives to actually take part in those games and their posts don't count :/ Surely if you're a member of this forum and you make a post then it should count regardless?

They only count for people with above 5k posts

http://i.minus.com/iOVrjkJ7vsLBl.gif

[Z]

Well I agree with you but I think the official line is there's no reason to change it back to making them count, just as there's no reason for it in the first place, it's just one of those rules that's in place and will probably never change.

[Roy Mars III]

post counts should be eliminated in general. They are useless and only result in elitism

[InOne]

only mods get to post nonsense and have it count

Didn't actually know it still counted for mods in there. No wonder they have ridiculously high post counts.

[reece(:]

only mods get to post nonsense and have it count
Is this true?

[Z]

Yeah posts count in TiBB Towers :laugh:

[reece(:]

Yeah posts count in TiBB Towers :laugh:
what dat?

[Z]

what dat?

The mod board. I miss the chat thread in there.

[Firewire]

JOSY GET IN HERE RIGHT NOW

************

[Crimson Dynamo]

I gave 5000 of my posts to charity but i never speak about it

[Roy Mars III]

Didn't actually know it still counted for mods in there. No wonder they have ridiculously high post counts.

Is this true?

posts in the mod section do. Why do you think people like Marc have such high post counts. they spam the place

[James]

It would be too easy to get an artificially high post count if posts counted Chat and Games by posting in word games, random chat threads and so on.

There are threads in Chat and Games that could be posted in General Chat or another forum. If a thread is about a specific subject it could go in another forum.

It used to be that the post count next to posts didn't show a specific number, just something like 1000+, 5000+, 10000+ etc. I think that was better actually. There is an argument for doing something like that again, or even hiding the post counts completely on threads.

[MTVN]

We only have highly intellectual discussions in the Mod forum about such topics as Russian literature and Greek philosophy, we're not in there playing bloody last person to post is sexy

[MTVN]

I would be all for removing post counts altogether mind you, or at least having the option to hide them

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, many of my highly amusing posts are should really count as 100 and not one as it does not reflect the complexity and uniqueness of the post

several posters should be deducted 100 each time they post as well. if Arista posts about the Chinese in Africa digging for minerals i would dock him 1000 but if he makes a highly amusing random post about say golden showers i would award him +1000

[Ramsay]

Silly that it counts for the mod chat thread tbh

[Jack_]

Are people really going to spam just to increase their post count though? Does anyone do that anymore? They would really care that much? If somebody spams just ban them...

Having posts not count just means it's not really a post count, is it? It's hardly an accurate representation of how many posts you've actually had meaning all the awards aren't really that true at all. If you're going to have a post count it should include every post you make, no matter how little or big, that is the point of having such a count after all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://the-word-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/worms.jpg

[InOne]

Are people really going to spam just to increase their post count though? Does anyone do that anymore? They would really care that much? If somebody spams just ban them...

Having posts not count just means it's not really a post count, is it? It's hardly an accurate representation of how many posts you've actually had meaning all the awards aren't really that true at all. If you're going to have a post count it should include every post you make, no matter how little or big, that is the point of having such a count after all.

The spamming thing was Jess and Tommy in protest of Thomas C being allowed back on the forum if I remember rightly. Other than that I never remember much spamming at all.

[Drew.]

We only have highly intellectual discussions in the Mod forum about such topics as Russian literature and Greek philosophy, we're not in there playing bloody last person to post is sexy

:joker:

[Samm]

I would rather have what we have now then, 1000+ 2000+ etc

do people argue other post count :umm2:

[Saph]

omg I never even knew this

I would be on like 50k by now

[Niamh.]

They only count for people with above 5k posts

:laugh:

[InOne]

How did you get 74k? D:

[InOne]

Apart from posting obviously but was most of that from the towers?

[Niamh.]

Nah, mine is so high because Chat and Games posts counted in 2009, when I was doing a whole lot of chatting in the the chat threads

[thesheriff443]

I dont care about post counts.

[InOne]

Yeah but so did I lol. That's where most of my posts were from.

[Niamh.]

Yeah but so did I lol. That's where most of my posts were from.

mmm I suppose I chat more in the mod chat thread then the chat and Games ones these days but no where near as much as we did back then in the Den

[Ramsay]

Bring back 5000+ 10000+ etc :lovedup:

[Jack_]

Can we not just at least trial C&G posts counting again? I don't think spamming will increase and if it does just ban them

Or at least let us know what our actual post counts are for like a day? I mean someone's probably hit 100k already and we have no idea

[Ramsay]

I'd actually like to know what my actual post count is too

[Ramsay]

denied my rightful place in the +30k club and i've never spammed a day in my life :(

[Jake.]

I don't even want to think about mine with C&G included :laugh:

actually I do tell us please

[Ramsay]

Turn it on for a late april fools day joke
the people have spoken

[MTVN]

Think there'd actually be loads of people with post counts in the hundreds of thousands if they did count, when you think about how quickly posts rack up in the chat threads and other c&g threads compared to in the other forums

[Marsh.]

But does it matter if they get a high post count from taking part in the chat threads?

Post counts don't really mean anything in the end so why bother?

[Livia]

What a shame that the post count was turned off for C&G because some people spammed and spoiled it for everyone.

We should take it to the Appeals section... Oh no, hang on a minute... Same thing happened.

[Niamh.]

What a shame that the post count was turned off for C&G because some people spammed and spoiled it for everyone.

We should take it to the Appeals section... Oh no, hang on a minute... Same thing happened.

:joker:

[Headie]

Are people really going to spam just to increase their post count though? Does anyone do that anymore? They would really care that much? If somebody spams just ban them...

Having posts not count just means it's not really a post count, is it? It's hardly an accurate representation of how many posts you've actually had meaning all the awards aren't really that true at all. If you're going to have a post count it should include every post you make, no matter how little or big, that is the point of having such a count after all.

Can we not just at least trial C&G posts counting again? I don't think spamming will increase and if it does just ban them

Or at least let us know what our actual post counts are for like a day? I mean someone's probably hit 100k already and we have no idea

Jack your posts are spot on :worship:

Why aren't you a mod yet?

[Josy]

Can we not just at least trial C&G posts counting again? I don't think spamming will increase and if it does just ban them

Or at least let us know what our actual post counts are for like a day? I mean someone's probably hit 100k already and we have no idea

Jack this is a few times I have noticed you posting this for different reasons...

I'm pretty sure you are aware that there would be a massive kick off if we started banning people for something like say spamming a smiley, we already have people constantly moaning when we put members on a ban for severe rule breaks.

Also mods don't get a massive post count just because of our chat thread, which doesn't contain any spamming anyway...we also post a lot in infraction and warning threads giving our opinions and discussing things about them.

There is too much spamming on the forum as it is especially with .gifs and images...

If anything I would be all for removing post count altogether, but don't think any changes need to be made atm.

[Jessica.]

:joker: God forbid they actually have to delete one extra post here and there.

:bored: What is the point in asking for anything, all you get is "why would we want it?", "that would cause more work for us", "we do more than you think" etc.. Someone could at least make an effort and do things that we ask for temporarily, like for a week and if it doesn't work out then fair enough, but being pessimistic about it EVERY SINGLE TIME and thinking the worst every time is not going to solve anything, it's just going to make people question you more. This forum would not exist without the members but none of the suggestions are ever looked into, there is no effort actually made to try anything because everyone thinks of the worst case scenario every time. LIGHTEN UP!

[lily.]

post counts should be eliminated in general. They are useless and only result in elitism

This.

[T*]

:joker: God forbid they actually have to delete one extra post here and there.

:bored: What is the point in asking for anything, all you get is "why would we want it?", "that would cause more work for us", "we do more than you think" etc.. Someone could at least make an effort and do things that we ask for temporarily, like for a week and if it doesn't work out then fair enough, but being pessimistic about it EVERY SINGLE TIME and thinking the worst every time is not going to solve anything, it's just going to make people question you more. This forum would not exist without the members but none of the suggestions are ever looked into, there is no effort actually made to try anything because everyone thinks of the worst case scenario every time. LIGHTEN UP!
THIS! :worship:

[T*]

We want it, Why can't we have it?!?!?

[lily.]

Yeah, I'm not around much, but I have heard that said more than once lately.

There is a suggestions section on the forum, but a lot of people have told me that no suggestions ever get considered.. so it is a bit pointless asking people to suggest stuff if nobody cares enough to bother with the suggestions.

I personally never liked post counts or karma on forums as it does cause a bit of an 'us and them'.

I'd much rather not have post count or post count awards at all.

It seems I am not alone in that opinion.

I'd make a thread in suggestions, but...

[Jordan.]

Will never understand why people care so much

[Benjamin]

Please do not get rid of posts counts. I like mine.

[lily.]

Jordan, don't you care about the forum?

[Benjamin]

:joker:

[Jessica.]

Nobody cares about post count, but it is pointless to have it here unless it shows our actual amount of posts. :umm2: That's all everyone is saying. You could ask the same about why people care about celebrities or why they had pasta for dinner instead of rice, you don't have to care about something to want it.

[T*]

Idk why we try anymore imho, Most stuff never gets applied. I'm sorry if that sound horrid, but it's what I think, Not meaning it in a nasty way, but literally zilch of suggestions get implimented.

[Josy]

We want it, Why can't we have it?!?!?

This post says it all tbh.

You can't have everything you want, it doesn't work like that look at the suggestions post from Ben yesterday for an example, Jess thought it was her given right to have something added for everyone because her and one other member wanted it, that's just ridiculous...

A few things off the top of my head that have been requested and added

Tapatalk App
Appeals Section - Certain members were the cause of this being removed
Smileys - I tried to be fair and add some suggestions from a variety of members and it still caused arguments and moaning.
Arcade Notifications

[T*]

This post says it all tbh.

You can't have everything you want, it doesn't work like that look at the suggestions post from Ben yesterday for an example, Jess thought it was her given right to have something added for everyone because her and one other member wanted it, that's just ridiculous...

A few things off the top of my head that have been requested and added

Tapatalk App
Appeals Section - Certain members were the cause of this being removed
Smileys - I tried to be fair and add some suggestions from a variety of members and it still caused arguments and moaning.
Arcade Notifications
Loads of members want it though?

Anyway, not trying to sounding mean, But thats 4 things. 4.
There is like 55 pages of threads on this subforum, and 4 things got implimented.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I wasn't on the forum when c&g counted yet was able to get 20k pretty quickly :unsure:

[Me. I Am Salman]

tapatalk <3

[Jordan.]

I use tapatalk but it doesn't tell you when you get visitor messages :umm2:

[T*]

There was also this thread:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243082
loads if people wanted it on there, Look at the Poll! And theres probably loads more of these threads on the same topic.

[Jessica.]

Tapatalk App
Appeals Section - Certain members were the cause of this being removed
Smileys - I tried to be fair and add some suggestions from a variety of members and it still caused arguments and moaning.
Arcade Notifications

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:
Tapatalk was a good addition, I wont deny that.

Appeals section was to make things easier for the mods so people wouldn't make multi accounts.

Every smiley that has been added was moderated beforehand, if a mod/admin didn't like certain smileys then they weren't added.

Arcade notifications are nice but there wasn't exactly a HIGH demand for them. :joker:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Remember when James took two years & four months to reply to this

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177078

[Jessica.]

Remember when James took two years & four months to reply to this

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177078

:joker:

[MTVN]

Agree with Josy, seems that often people think just because something gets suggested it has to be added, and also just pick on any little trivial issue to press for the sake of it

It's simply not feasible and unrealistic to have every feature and every idea that gets suggested have added to the forum. That is the case for literally every forum on the internet. Most suggestions do get taken into consideration and as Josy has shown some do get added, that's more than a lot of forums would do

I don't think people really appreciate the sheer extent of the rubbish that gets posted in chat and games. It's not that people would spam it to get their post count up, its that most of the stuff that gets posted in there is by its nature spam. If you're going to have post counts they are supposed to be representative of the contribution someone's made to the forum. Having a post count of say 200,000 with 150,000 being chit chatty or spammy posts in C&G is not representative of forum contribution, it's representative of how much they've 'chatted' or whatever

[T*]

Some people work hard on posts in C&G

[Firewire]

Some people work hard on posts in C&G

it's not all about post counts, let it go

[T*]

it's not all about post counts, let it go

Yes, I know that, But i'm trying to make a point, Rarely any suggestions get implemented and I think it's about time that changed.

[GypsyGoth]

I'd be happy with getting rid of post counts and awards from beneath our avatars, I'm sure they can be pretty intimidating for new people. And beside, both are already listed on our profile pages.

[Jessica.]

it's not all about post counts, let it go

moSFlvxnbgk

[GypsyGoth]

:lovedup:

[T*]

I'm not bothered if they're deleted or If C&G Posts are counted, Just impliment one!

[T*]

Can't hold this back anymore

[MTVN]

I'm not bothered if they're deleted or If C&G Posts are counted, Just impliment one!

You need to show a bit more respect to authority young man

[Benjamin]

I don't think it is fair to say no suggestions get listened to.

They do get listened to and discussed. Not all suggestions will get added to the forum. Some have and some haven't. Admin have to make that call, we may not always like it but it's their call at the end of the day.

Do I think more could be done to improve this forum? Yes.

Do I think it is fair to say that they do nothing. No.

[Jessica.]

http://puu.sh/8nnOB.jpg

[reece(:]

I'm worryingly looking at both sides of the argument, who would be bothered enough to make spam posts just to raise their post count in C+G? and actual post count shows a persons dedication to the forum through the days-months-years they've been on.. not understanding the "elitist" comment, just sounds like toys out of the pram.

With the whole implementing new things, I get the feeling a lot of things are unreasonably said no to without even trials, such as the like button, but in the grand scheme of things it's a forum and we can post and debate without "gimmicks" :shrug:

[Josy]

I'm worryingly looking at both sides of the argument, who would be bothered enough to make spam posts just to raise their post count in C+G? and actual post count shows a persons dedication to the forum through the days-months-years they've been on.. not understanding the "elitist" comment, just sounds like toys out of the pram.

With the whole implementing new things, I get the feeling a lot of things are unreasonably said no to without even trials, such as the like button, but in the grand scheme of things it's a forum and we can post and debate without "gimmicks" :shrug:

The thing is Reece, giving things like the like button a trial still takes time implementing it into the forum software so if it's something that we think will be pretty pointless and be unused after the initial excitement for it then we wont bother wasting time adding it in the first place.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Can't hold this back anymore

http://i.imgur.com/chV5eTs.gif

[thesheriff443]

on a serious note!. could post counts be made private?

[lily.]

...not understanding the "elitist" comment, just sounds like toys out of the pram....

Care to elaborate on how that sounds like toys out of the pram?

[Benjamin]

Tbh i think this should be focused on more

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6814814#post6814814

[T*]

http://i.imgur.com/chV5eTs.gif

It's off frozen lmao

[reece(:]

Care to elaborate on how that sounds like toys out of the pram?
Moaning for the sake of it, as if anyone thinks they're superior to others based on post count. That's for sure something I've never seen on the forum.

[Jessica.]

The thing is Reece, giving things like the like button a trial still takes time implementing it into the forum software so if it's something that we think will be pretty pointless and be unused after the initial excitement for it then we wont bother wasting time adding it in the first place.

:sleep: Thinking the worst as usual, did you get a tarot reading that told you people would eventually stop using it or something?

[GypsyGoth]

:eureka:

How about posts in chat & games get taken away from your post count? :amazed:

[lily.]

Moaning for the sake of it, as if anyone thinks they're superior to others based on post count. That's for sure something I've never seen on the forum.

I have.

[Jessica.]

:eureka:

How about posts in chat & games get taken away from your post count? :amazed:

:joker::joker::joker:

[T*]

This is really annoying me.

[Jessica.]

I have.

Could you point us to a recent incident please?

[reece(:]

The thing is Reece, giving things like the like button a trial still takes time implementing it into the forum software so if it's something that we think will be pretty pointless and be unused after the initial excitement for it then we wont bother wasting time adding it in the first place.
Fair enough but if there's a demand for "it", whatever the feature would be, then it could be worked upon in small doses and trialled at a later date. Trial and error is part of life, nothing would have to be rushed... but I think this discussion isn't relevant to the thread so I'll cease there :hugesmile:

[reece(:]

Could you point us to a recent incident please?
Please enlighten.

[Ramsay]

Surprised that a like button isn't being used considering the main theme of this forum

[Josy]

:sleep: Thinking the worst as usual, did you get a tarot reading that told you people would eventually stop using it or something?

Not thinking the worst at all, I was giving Reece an example of why we don't trial every single suggestion that someone makes..

Adding to what I said in my post above, this forum already has a lot of modifications and code that James has written himself for things that members don't always see, so implementing other ones can also be very tricky or time consuming.

[T*]

WHAT. I'm not even going to ask, I'm really fed up now.

[Jessica.]

Do basically you are saying that admin don't know how to do most things? :joker:

[lily.]

Could you point us to a recent incident please?

Please enlighten.

It happens all the time. How many times have you seen a relatively new member having their post picked to shreds by someone with a high post count?

Plenty of people have said it is intimidating being new on TiBB. Why do you think that is.

[Drew.]

WHAT. I'm not even going to ask, I'm really fed up now.

Run along now

[Josy]

WHAT. I'm not even going to ask, I'm really fed up now.

Tom you should probably leave the thread if you are getting so annoyed over something so trivial, we are having a discussion here, no one else is over reacting...

[Benjamin]

In all fairness there are only James and Josy as admin and they also have lives outside of here too. It's all good and well people mocking them, et I see nobody offering to try and help them out with codes if they know how to do it.

[Jessica.]

It happens all the time. How many times have you seen a relatively new member having their post picked to shreds by someone with a high post count?

Never.

[T*]

Tom you should probably leave the thread if you are getting so annoyed over something so trivial, we are having a discussion here, no one else is over reacting...

Actually I'd like to stay. Thanks.

[T*]

Never.

[2].

[Josy]

Do basically you are saying that admin don't know how to do most things? :joker:

No sure how you came up with that from reading my posts...

[Smithy]

tbh, i think post counts shouldn't count in the mod section, niamh nathan and marc all have like 50k+ posts and i'm pretty sure they're not that devout to discussing moderation :shrug:

[Headie]

Please can we keep this as a discussion thread and not an argument thread? I just wanted to ask the question and get other peoples views on it, and some people are turning it into a 'members vs mods' rally.

I see both sides of the debate tbh, but I feel they should either be counted or we should just have post counts removed.

[Benjamin]

tbh, i think post counts shouldn't count in the mod section, niamh nathan and marc all have like 50k+ posts and i'm pretty sure they're not that devout to discussing moderation :shrug:

They could just tell us that it didn't count anymore and we would be none the wiser..

[reece(:]

It happens all the time. How many times have you seen a relatively new member having their post picked to shreds by someone with a high post count?

Plenty of people have said it is intimidating being new on TiBB. Why do you think that is.
I've never seen such occurrence, I think the people you may be referring to are troll accounts? For instance Jay. joined this week and has fitted in without any bother at all.

[Ramsay]

Bring C&Gs posts back for a day like i said so people can see what their posts would be. think that's the main reason people want it. then after the day change it back. everyones happy

[Benjamin]

Like **** are we having all post counts removed.

[Smithy]

They could just tell us that it didn't count anymore and we would be none the wiser..

You'd notice if they were all still rising quickly when they're not posting on the main board much :shrug:

[lily.]

Never.

[2].

I've never seen such occurrence, I think the people you may be referring to are troll accounts? For instance Jay. joined this week and has fitted in without any bother at all.


Then I guess this place got all happy-clappy since I was last a regular.

[Benjamin]

You'd notice if they were all still rising quickly when they're not posting on the main board much :shrug:

a lot of the posts do also come from the infractions etc though and the discussion of them in the infractions/bans sub forum.

[Smithy]

a lot of the posts do also come from the infractions etc though and the discussion of them in the infractions/bans sub forum.

well then they shouldn't

It's not exactly contributing to the forum as such :shrug: (like i know it's sorting it out) but it's not a general discussion for members, it's a bit like a social group, posts don't count in there for the members

[MTVN]

You'd notice if they were all still rising quickly when they're not posting on the main board much :shrug:

That doesn't really apply to any of us though, all of us only do a tiny minority of our posts in the Mod forum and we're pretty much all active across the different forum sections

[Headie]

Bring C&Gs posts back for a day like i said so people can see what their posts would be. think that's the main reason people want it. then after the day change it back. everyones happy

That spells disaster IMO. People would just be spamming for that whole day and then people would just say 'I told you so' when actually they probably wouldn't spam if the post counts counted forever (or for a long trial period).

[Benjamin]

That doesn't really apply to any of us though, all of us only do a tiny minority of our posts in the Mod forum and we're pretty much all active across the different forum sections

*some of you are, let's not get carried away by those weaker ones that do **** all

[Smithy]

*some of you are

Oop :hehe:

[MTVN]

*some of you are

Well who's not? :shrug:

All the Mods who are regularly online atm are also posting across the forum. The only ones who aren't that active right now are Marc and Eoin but they're not posting in the Towers either

[Headie]

*some of you are, let's not get carried away by those weaker ones that do **** all

Oh no you didn't
https://31.media.tumblr.com/039cd4fabcdc42befa8b96a93ce1bc4b/tumblr_inline_n4kgswuAvS1s46pfi.gif

[Smithy]

I think it'd be interesting to see who posted the most in the mods chat thread

[Jessica.]

Yeah give us a look. :flutter:

[Ramsay]

Mods chat thread shouldn't count if it doesn't count for regular members tbh
edit: think i already said that woops

[Samm]

^this

[Benjamin]

Well who's not? :shrug:

All the Mods who are regularly online atm are also posting across the forum. The only ones who aren't that active right now are Marc and Eoin but they're not posting in the Towers either

I'm not going to start naming and shaming mods individually. Most of you do your job, most of the time.

[Smithy]

I'm not going to start naming and shaming mods individually.

do it ben do it!!!

if not PM me :hehe:

[MTVN]

I'm not going to start naming and shaming mods individually. Most of you do your job, most of the time.

I wasn't even talking about who does the most Modding or anything though, all I said was that the Mods who are regularly online atm are posting across different forum sections, none of us post purely in the Admin section

That's just a fact

[T*]

Imo it's just sad that we have to beg for stuff

[thesheriff443]

its just numbers at the end of the day!
its not like its you're bank statement.

[Headie]

Imo it's just sad that we have to beg for stuff

Why? You can't have everything handed to you on a silver platter.

Having healthy debates and actually convincing the mods why it would be a good idea is how it SHOULD be done, that's the only way change will happen.

[Benjamin]

I wasn't even talking about who does the most Modding or anything though, all I said was that the Mods who are regularly online atm are posting across different forum sections, none of us post purely in the Admin section

That's just a fact

Maybe not now, but some did in the past. You guys have to understand what these members are saying. It seems a little hypocritical saying that their C & G posts cannot count yet the admin chat thread is allowed to count regardless of how little or lots you use it.

Honestly, do you not see the hypocrisy there?

Like I said I don't care. I liked the post count in there, I also think posts in C & G should count but if they don't then fine.

[T*]

You can't have everything handed to you on a silver platter.

:facepalm:

[MTVN]

Maybe not now, but some did in the past. You guys have to understand what these members are saying. It seems a little hypocritical saying that their C & G posts cannot count yet the admin chat thread is allowed to count regardless of how little or lots you use it.

Honestly, do you not see the hypocrisy there?

Like I said I don't care. I liked the post count in there, I also think posts in C & G should count.

That's not relevant to what I was saying though. I was simply making the point that you wouldn't necessarily notice Mods post counts going up who aren't posting elsewhere because it's not really the case that any Mods are only posting in the Admin section and not anywhere else on the board

I also really couldn't care less about post counts, I find a high post count more of an embarrassment than something to be proud of and would be quite happy for them not to count in the Towers

[Jordan.]

time for a mod to move this thread to C&G, the whining shouldn't count as a post http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

[Josy]

time for a mod to move this thread to C&G, the whining shouldn't count as a post http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

:joker:

[thesheriff443]

:joker:

stop stoking the fire josy:joker:

[Ramsay]

time for a mod to move this thread to C&G, the whining shouldn't count as a post http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

:laugh:

[Benjamin]

time for a mod to move this thread to C&G, the whining shouldn't count as a post http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

:joker:

[Headie]

:facepalm:

what now

[Me. I Am Salman]

Um I care about my post count thank you very much, it just makes posting feel more worthwhile in a weird way

@ me if you think that makes me any less of a person than you

[InOne]

It's probably just fine the way it is really. No need to scrap post counts and no need for them to count in chat and games. I think this has only become a big issue because we're well into off-season and there's **** all else to talk about. One of the reason I prefer on-season is everyone concentrates on the BB section and it's complete carnage but that's what makes it good.

[Me. I Am Salman]

anyway my view is that c&g posts should not count because
a) most of it is nonsense
b) everyone's post counts would be ridiculously high, let them increase gradually it's better
c) we might not be allowed to spam anymore

[Z]

Other than being curious about what my post count would be if C&G counted, I don't think there's any need for it to count. There are so many games that could rocket people's post counts up and it's not really indicative of how much time or thought they've put into their posts elsewhere. If something is more of a discussion then I think it should be in General Chat. I think Chat and Games should really just be for forum games (either Elimination types etc or +1/-1 types etc etc) and that way people's post counts don't go up for posting spammy messages. It's fine the way it is.

[Ammi]

..I agree, I think they're fine as they are but I also wouldn't mind either if there were no post counts shown at all...I do understand that people don't want to lose their post counts, I don't either if others have them but if no one had them then I don't think we would even think about it, if that makes sense..I also don't think that high counts are intimidating because I've seen BB posters posting aggressively toward people like Niamh and other high count posters just as they post to everyone else so I just think that if they're goin g to be aggressive they will be, no matter who is in the thread posting...I also think that generally members are welcoming and don't feel..oh, we're 'elite' so we'll be hostile to new members or treat them differently/be hostile or whatever...the only time I've ever seen that is if a new member seems to be 'trolling'/themselves quite hostile and insulting..I'm not saying it's the right thing to respond in the same way but it's the only time I've ever seen anything like that...

[Black Dagger]

Will never understand why people care so much

[2]

People having a ****ing paddy and 'WE WANT IT WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?!' like spoilt brats, deary me.

[Livia]

This still running, eh? Oh well... this post will push my count up by one.

[Ammi]

This still running, eh? Oh well... this post will push my count up by one.

...x 2...(that was just for my post count, I hadn't even thought of that..:whistle:...)...

[Z]

This still running, eh? Oh well... this post will push my count up by one.

Oh I'll have another one as well then

[Kizzy]

Some get all territorial on here.. 'who ARE they, they only have 5000 posts! :glorang:'
So getting counted for countless threads about the latest sassy mare is a bit pointless.
I say get rid of the post count altogether.

[Ammi]

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

[Jesus.]

I'd rather consistency in approach over some bollocks little gimmick.

[Josy]

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

They actually have though, I have dealt with a few posts like that myself.

[Headie]

[2]

People having a ****ing paddy and 'WE WANT IT WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?!' like spoilt brats, deary me.

:joker:

I agree, I wasn't getting all angry or annoyed in the OP, I was just asking why they don't count (cos I genuinely didn't know), and then all this exploded :joker:

[Headie]

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

I've seen it on a lot of other forums though, people look at a new member who has 2 posts and immediately say "OH, YOUR A TROLL, I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FAKE".

[Ammi]

..HAYDEN...:fist:..pfft causing all this trouble with your 3000 and something post counts..:joker:..it is something that quite a few people aren't sure of though, I remember when I noticed a new member only having one post and I knew they had made more and then realised it was because they had been in chat and games mostly...

[Ammi]

I've seen it on a lot of other forums though, people look at a new member who has 2 posts and immediately say "OH, YOUR A TROLL, I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FAKE".

..ahh ok, I've never seen anyone saying that because of a post count reason but I have seen new members be insulted because they were being a bit rude or aggressive..I know on other forums I'm on, post counts are noticed more because you can only make threads when you have a minimum post count...(I can't remember how many it is though..)...

[Livia]

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

When new people come on here we don't need to see a post count to know they're new. And they don't need to see a post count to know some of us know each other and have been around longer. What I do see sometimes is someone new accusing someone of being superior because they have a higher post count, usually when the new person is here specifically to tell us where we've been going wrong all this time. We've all been new... personally, post counts just pointed out to me who was a reg. Nothing more. Generally I think most regs are welcoming to new people who aren't acting like arses.

Post counts don't count in Chat and Games. That's the way it is. I personally can't understand why not because no one can say the rest of the forum is so much worthier and that utter tosh never gets posted anywhere other than Chat and Games. Also, in off-season, Chat and Games pretty much keeps this place going so to write it off as not worthy of being counted sounds ridiculous to me. However, it has been decided that's the way it is and I'm happy to go with that.

What worries me more is that there is no way to appeal. Because it was abused it was removed for everyone. The mods to a thankless job, but the members keep this place walking and for there to be no way for a member to appeal a decision in a adult way defies my understanding.

[Josy]

People can and do use the private message function to appeal, and also if they reply to the TiBB Staff message that gives them the infractions then either myself, James or Vicky receives those through email and we post it in the admin forum to discuss it.

[Livia]

People can and do use the private message function to appeal, and also if they reply to the TiBB Staff message that gives them the infractions then either myself, James or Vicky receives those through email and we post it in the admin forum to discuss it.

People don't always get a reply when they PM. It's not consistent.

[Josy]

People don't always get a reply when they PM. It's not consistent.

I think that would be a very rare occurrence and if it does happen then they can send a pm to a different mod or admin.

[Ammi]

When new people come on here we don't need to see a post count to know they're new. And they don't need to see a post count to know some of us know each other and have been around longer. What I do see sometimes is someone new accusing someone of being superior because they have a higher post count, usually when the new person is here specifically to tell us where we've been going wrong all this time. We've all been new... personally, post counts just pointed out to me who was a reg. Nothing more. Generally I think most regs are welcoming to new people who aren't acting like arses.

Post counts don't count in Chat and Games. That's the way it is. I personally can't understand why not because no one can say the rest of the forum is so much worthier and that utter tosh never gets posted anywhere other than Chat and Games. Also, in off-season, Chat and Games pretty much keeps this place going so to write it off as not worthy of being counted sounds ridiculous to me. However, it has been decided that's the way it is and I'm happy to go with that.

What worries me more is that there is no way to appeal. Because it was abused it was removed for everyone. The mods to a thankless job, but the members keep this place walking and for there to be no way for a member to appeal a decision in a adult way defies my understanding.

..yeah that was my thought that people can fairly much see who posts regularly and that they seem to know each other so I don't think that a high post count has any effect of being intimidating in any way...and I also agree that it's frustrating not to have a proper appeal section or a section where you can discuss things that you may want to..maybe not exactly like before if that didn't work so well but a 'private' room or something..

[Livia]

I think that would be a very rare occurrence and if it does happen then they can send a pm to a different mod or admin.

Don't want to drag this out to the death Josy, and this isn't at all personal to you, but there have been occasions when I've PMed and never had a reply. And I know this has happened to others too. I don't want to go into specifics and create an ongoing drama out of it, but in future, and in the absence of a proper appeals process, if I receive no reply to a question I will certainly do as you advise.

[Josy]

Don't want to drag this out to the death Josy, and this isn't at all personal to you, but there have been occasions when I've PMed and never had a reply. And I know this has happened to others too. I don't want to go into specifics and create an ongoing drama out of it, but in future, and in the absence of a proper appeals process, if I receive no reply to a question I will certainly do as you advise.

Yeah I don't want to keep taking this thread off track but...

Fair enough point, I wasn't aware that there were a lot of pm's going unanswered and if it is about your personal infraction, warning etc then yeah I would advise contacting another mod or admin about it..

If though any messages are sent that are about things that don't concern you (I don't mean you here Livia just in general) then you may not get a reply because other members bans and infractions are no one elses business and some members do send messages about that when they should know by now we don't discuss things like that with them.

[T*]

[2]

People having a ****ing paddy and 'WE WANT IT WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?!' like spoilt brats, deary me.

You just quoted my post so I'm sure you're talking about me. Im a spoilt brat just because I want 1 thing implemented? Get real.

[Livia]

Yes, I get that Josy. Maybe a standard message just saying that the point in question doesn't concern the enquirer and a conversation will not be forthcoming might be better, and it might go some way to stop people trying that route.

Anyhoo, thanks... and this conversation has raised my post count by four! :-)

[Me. I Am Salman]

It happens all the time. How many times have you seen a relatively new member having their post picked to shreds by someone with a high post count?

Plenty of people have said it is intimidating being new on TiBB. Why do you think that is.

I've seen it on a lot of other forums though, people look at a new member who has 2 posts and immediately say "OH, YOUR A TROLL, I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FAKE".

that's nothing to do with post counts..

people blaming post counts for dividing members :facepalm: yeah it's nothing to do with the existence of cliques or the fact that the person being targeted isn't a regular. removing post count won't change ANYTHING. cliques and 'regulars' will still remain

a music forum I mostly lurk has a function for members to hide their join dates/post counts and most of the regulars do, but there's still cliquey behaviour

[Marsh.]

So Chat and Games doesn't count because it's mostly masses of posts of crap/gifs, contributing to games etc???

Are you trying to say every post in every other forum is a well contracted/meaningful thought? :laugh: Most of that is "Oooh we got some shade" gifs and constant diva/gorilla with a breathing tube/pop bitches gifs.

[Gstar]

People can and do use the private message function to appeal, and also if they reply to the TiBB Staff message that gives them the infractions then either myself, James or Vicky receives those through email and we post it in the admin forum to discuss it.

I always reply with "****** off" to those messages http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

[Josy]

I always reply with "****** off" to those messages http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

Well you might not want to do that or you will end up banned

[Me. I Am Salman]

So Chat and Games doesn't count because it's mostly masses of posts of crap/gifs, contributing to games etc???

Are you trying to say every post in every other forum is a well contracted/meaningful thought? :laugh: Most of that is "Oooh we got some shade" gifs and constant diva/gorilla with a breathing tube/pop bitches gifs.

chat and games exists solely for that kind of thing, so it shouldn't count.

all the other forums exist for constructive or meaningful discussion, but of course it won't be like that 100% of the time

god there's not even a problem just leave it how it ******ing is

[Gstar]

Well you might not want to do that or you will end up banned

http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

[Marsh.]

chat and games exists solely for that kind of thing, so it shouldn't count.

all the other forums exist for constructive or meaningful discussion, but of course it won't be like that 100% of the time

god there's not even a problem just leave it how it ******ing is

I never said there was any problem so wind your neck in and mind your language sally.

[Samm]

Well you might not want to do that or you will end up banned

When I got one from the TiBB Staff I sent something back and I didn't get anything back :suspect:

[Samm]

I always reply with "****** off" to those messages http://i.imgur.com/3aRsgyB.png

:joker:

[Jesus.]

So Chat and Games doesn't count because it's mostly masses of posts of crap/gifs, contributing to games etc???

Are you trying to say every post in every other forum is a well contracted/meaningful thought? :laugh: Most of that is "Oooh we got some shade" gifs and constant diva/gorilla with a breathing tube/pop bitches gifs.

Quality. But you might be about to get slayed by some fierce bitches for writing it :bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

what 08marsh said

[Marsh.]

Quality. But you might be about to get slayed by some fierce bitches for writing it :bored:

Sally tried but failed. :smug:

[Niall]

Remember when James took two years & four months to reply to this

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177078

Okay but seriously, this annoys me so much. This is the most simplistic change ever, and it resolves an actually goddamn flaw with the ****ing forum yet it's been completely ignored for three years now? Multiple users have said they don't know where to put tech threads, so clearly I'm not an isolated incident.

It's just a perfect showcase of how suggestions on this forum are about as effective as as trying to peal one potato with another potato. It just goes nowhere. BYE.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63uvsKRN81qc4uu9.gif

[Me. I Am Salman]

I never said there was any problem so wind your neck in and mind your language sally.

Sally tried but failed. :smug:

http://s22.postimg.org/kz348s9tt/image.jpg

[Josy]

Okay but seriously, this annoys me so much. This is the most simplistic change ever, and it resolves an actually goddamn flaw with the ****ing forum yet it's been completely ignored for three years now? Multiple users have said they don't know where to put tech threads, so clearly I'm not an isolated incident.

It's just a perfect showcase of how suggestions on this forum are about as effective as as trying to peal one potato with another potato. It just goes nowhere. BYE.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63uvsKRN81qc4uu9.gif

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=67

[Benjamin]

Josy did you just do that? :joker:

[Benjamin]

Josy please rename C & G to ***** & Giggles for 5 minutes :love:

[thesheriff443]

Josy please rename C & G to ***** & Giggles for 5 minutes :love:

I will come round yours do a sh*t and you can giggle:joker:

[Benjamin]

I will come round yours do a sh*t and you can giggle:joker:

There will be no giggling

[MTVN]

It has had tech in its title for months but none of you lot noticed

[Benjamin]

No it hasn't lol. I have a screen shot I took for something the other day and it isn't there. :laugh:

[MTVN]

Back in November I think Josy did it

[T*]

No lmao I frequent the video game sub and it never used to have tech in it yesterday..

[Drew.]

I did notice the change a while ago

[MTVN]

November 23rd to be exact it was according to the Mod logs

[T*]

When I got one from the TiBB Staff I sent something back and I didn't get anything back :suspect:

[2].

[Vicky.]

Because its specifically for spammy posts :shrug: Its effectively a spam section, and as james said a lot of the stuff that goes in there would be perfectly fine in general chat. Stuff like the 'count to a million' thread and that, should they really count?

LOL at people saying post counts dont matter and arent a big deal, when the majority of moaning in here (and the main point of the thread) has been about...post counts :D

For the record I wouldnt care at all if post counts were disabled in the mod chat thread/infractions section or whatever. I think the only reason some people are taking this so seriously is because its another reason to moan.

I would support removing post counts all together also. Don't really see the point in them

Also I want my post count to be lower, not higher. Higher shows you have even less of a life :umm2: Please disable them in general chat and SD too james

[Smithy]

Maybe not now, but some did in the past. You guys have to understand what these members are saying. It seems a little hypocritical saying that their C & G posts cannot count yet the admin chat thread is allowed to count regardless of how little or lots you use it.

Honestly, do you not see the hypocrisy there?

Like I said I don't care. I liked the post count in there, I also think posts in C & G should count but if they don't then fine.

Still waiting for a reply to this tbh

[Vicky.]

My reply gave my opinion on that really. Dont give a crap if admin posts count or not, and I doubt anyone else does either :joker:

[MTVN]

I don't either but its not an exact comparison

The Mod chat thread is probably responsible for about 1% of our post counts, if C&G posts counted they'd be responsible for about 95% of everyone's posts counts

[Smithy]

Y'all should show the # posts in the chat thread :pipe:

[Vicky.]

Josy 891
Nathan 810
Niamh. 650
MTVN 456
Marc 312
Vicky. 262
Iceman 155
James 49
Dezzy 20

Thread started last year...not that I see how it matters.

Not sure if james can remove the post counts for certain threads anyway, but if its going to stop everyone moaning then hopefully it gets done tbh, as I cant see any of us minding one bit either way.

[Josy]

I agree with both Matt and Vicky and don't care about the post count from our chat thread and would happily turn it off...however post count can't be turned off just for one thread, it can only be done by section and when we post in other parts of the admin section we are contributing to the forum, we are discussing members bans, infractions, final warnings and so on.

[Me. I Am Salman]

create a chat subforum then :idc:

[Me. I Am Salman]

I'm just kidding I don't really care

[Josy]

create a chat subforum then :idc:

A sub forum isn't a section...

[Me. I Am Salman]

lol

[Niall]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=67

I should throw tantrums more often

THANK YOU JOSY :love:

[Headie]

I agree with both Matt and Vicky and don't care about the post count from our chat thread and would happily turn it off...however post count can't be turned off just for one thread, it can only be done by section and when we post in other parts of the admin section we are contributing to the forum, we are discussing members bans, infractions, final warnings and so on.

When we post in Chat and Games we're contributing to the forum by actually chatting and talking during off season. Without Chat & Games, this forum would literally be dead for like 6 months.

[Benjamin]

I'm just kidding I don't really care

http://julianish.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/68vzl.gif

[Josy]

When we post in Chat and Games we're contributing to the forum by actually chatting and talking during off season. Without Chat & Games, this forum would literally be dead for like 6 months.

Not really...lots of us watch TV shows and post in that section, the sports section is always active as well as the other reality tv shows that are on throughout the year.

[lily.]

Also I want my post count to be lower, not higher. Higher shows you have even less of a life :umm2: Please disable them in general chat and SD too james

I never post new threads in GC. I use C&G so it makes me look like I post here less lol

[T*]

The tv section is rather spotty tbh, and the shows need 1 thread each so there still wont be many posts

[Josy]

The tv section is rather spotty tbh, and the shows need 1 thread each so there still wont be many posts

204,199 posts in the tv forum...

[lily.]

Whoa... there are 909,819 posts in the C&G section...

[Vicky.]

I never post new threads in GC. I use C&G so it makes me look like I post here less lol

I tend to do that too :laugh:

I think I would actually hate being one of those posters with like 70k posts (sorry niamh..nathan..whoever else :joker: )

I am ashamed enough of my 40k

[Josy]

Check this page for spamming yet people say there isn't a lot of spam, this is just one page...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249171&page=68

[Benjamin]

clocked

http://julianish.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/68vzl.gif

[lily.]

I tend to do that too :laugh:

I think I would actually hate being one of those posters with like 70k posts (sorry niamh..nathan..whoever else :joker: )

I am ashamed enough of my 40k

haha.. me too.. I dread to think what my count would be with C&G included tbh.

[Black Dagger]

-I swear somebody a while back was whinging about certain gifs constantly being used-

[Headie]

Check this page for spamming yet people say there isn't a lot of spam, this is just one page...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249171&page=68

I think they did that on purpose though for a joke...

Would you really see that happen daily?

Anyone I don't know why I care tbh I just started the thread that's it.

[Josy]

I think they did that on purpose though for a joke...

Would you really see that happen daily?

Anyone I don't know why I care tbh I just started the thread that's it.

From some members that's the type of contribution they add to the forum daily, hence the announcements about spamming images and gifs.

[Kyle]

Well after reading this I certainly don't envy the mods.

Whatever they do they will end up with one big batch of cry babies.

[Kizzy]

Yup, you can please some of the people all of the time, and all off the people....yadda yadda :glorang:

[reece(:]

Well after reading this I certainly don't envy the mods.

Whatever they do they will end up with one big batch of cry babies.
if you read the discussion you would see its much more than that

[InOne]

Because its specifically for spammy posts :shrug: Its effectively a spam section, and as james said a lot of the stuff that goes in there would be perfectly fine in general chat. Stuff like the 'count to a million' thread and that, should they really count?

LOL at people saying post counts dont matter and arent a big deal, when the majority of moaning in here (and the main point of the thread) has been about...post counts :D

For the record I wouldnt care at all if post counts were disabled in the mod chat thread/infractions section or whatever. I think the only reason some people are taking this so seriously is because its another reason to moan.

I would support removing post counts all together also. Don't really see the point in them

Also I want my post count to be lower, not higher. Higher shows you have even less of a life :umm2: Please disable them in general chat and SD too james

That's more inspiring than most of the threads on the whole board. :idc:

[Shaun]

I'd have thought the mod chat thread/chat and games 'hypocrisy' 'issue' was pretty obviously down to a logistical coding issue of trying to format one thread in one (hidden) subforum to have the same (no post count) rules as a whole other subforum...

I don't really get why this is an issue and I feel like I've lost brain cells just posting this.

[Ammi]

..so far as the topic and post counts go, I do think it's a case of you can't/won't please everyone..if no one had a post count at all then although some members might not like that, I think that because none of us had them, it wouldn't be something that we would think about for too long but then probably threads would start saying..can we have post counts back please or if chat and games were added then some would think that 'spam' wasn't a fair thing to have a post count on so leaving it as it is seems like the easiest thing to do....and I know I've said it a few times but this will be my last post on it but I do think a better communication between staff and members would be a good thing in terms of looking into an alternative to the appeals section..and it's not all about infractions/bans etc but sometimes other things and general concerns about something that maybe a member might not want to report etc but just mention to staff..and I know that PM is available but not everyone would feel that they know a mod/admin well enough to PM or maybe feel a bit awkward about it...just maybe a private room that can't be viewed by the rest of the forum that a member could post a concern or whatever in ...nothing like a 'fight room' or anything..:laugh:...and rather than say that the thought is that it wouldn't work or didn't work if been tried before, maybe look at why it didn't work and whether it could be 'tweaked' to make it work or how to try and make it work...

anyway, last post....

[Shaun]

And whoever said that no suggestions are ever added clearly and wildly overlooked my campaign to get (so far, just) the BB1 favourite housemate option on our profiles :hmph: WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT :fist: bb2 through bb10 would be lovely

[Kyle]

if you read the discussion you would see its much more than that

I've read the whole discussion thanks and my point still stands.

It was 9 pages of people jumping on the bandwagon to criticise the mods for doing nothing in their opinion with some people saying they would rather it stayed the way it was and the sensible people saying they don't give a s***.

This forum is like a crèche at times.

[Ammi]

..I don't think that anyone has jumped on a band wagon here and I think that's indeed why the thread is still going and hasn't been closed etc as so often happens...there are obviously going to be different views and people have just voiced their own..the forum isn't 'perfect', no forum is and indeed nothing ever is and maybe some things some things could be improved or maybe they can't for practical or other reasons but asking questions and discussing things is very rarely a bad thing...

[Crimson Dynamo]

All the PC should be is a way of illustrating how active a member has been since they joined, that gives a useful piece of information in what is a very impersonal format - ie a forum online

[thesheriff443]

asking this for the second time!
can a members post count be removed/hidden/or made private?

[Josy]

asking this for the second time!
can a members post count be removed/hidden/or made private?

No they cant

[thesheriff443]

No they cant

thanks, josy.

[Niamh.]

I tend to do that too :laugh:

I think I would actually hate being one of those posters with like 70k posts (sorry niamh..nathan..whoever else :joker: )

I am ashamed enough of my 40k

lol I don't understand how mine is so high, I always post new threads in C&G rather than General Chat :joker: I suppose I post a fair bit in the TV section and in the BB section on season

[Josy]

lol I don't understand how mine is so high, I always post new threads in C&G rather than General Chat :joker: I suppose I post a fair bit in the TV section and in the BB section on season

That section definitely bumps mine up a lot during on season.

[Livia]

I've read the whole discussion thanks and my point still stands.

It was 9 pages of people jumping on the bandwagon to criticise the mods for doing nothing in their opinion with some people saying they would rather it stayed the way it was and the sensible people saying they don't give a s***.

This forum is like a crèche at times.

This has been a discussion, no one's jumped on a bandwagon. I had something to say, it became a discussion with Josy - I think it was very useful. No one seems to have thrown their toys out of the pram. If you don't give a sh**, why are you posting in here?

[Kyle]

Idk why we try anymore imho, Most stuff never gets applied. I'm sorry if that sound horrid, but it's what I think, Not meaning it in a nasty way, but literally zilch of suggestions get implimented.

This is really annoying me.

WHAT. I'm not even going to ask, I'm really fed up now.

:joker: God forbid they actually have to delete one extra post here and there.

:bored: What is the point in asking for anything, all you get is "why would we want it?", "that would cause more work for us", "we do more than you think" etc.. Someone could at least make an effort and do things that we ask for temporarily, like for a week and if it doesn't work out then fair enough, but being pessimistic about it EVERY SINGLE TIME and thinking the worst every time is not going to solve anything, it's just going to make people question you more. This forum would not exist without the members but none of the suggestions are ever looked into, there is no effort actually made to try anything because everyone thinks of the worst case scenario every time. LIGHTEN UP!

There you go toys out the pram, now jog on.

[Livia]

There you go toys out the pram, now jog on.

Grow up.

[Jessica.]

This forum is a mess. :lovedup:

[Jesus.]

This forum is a mess. :lovedup:

Agreed - although we probably think it for different reasons.

[King Gizzard]

Get rid of them altogether

[King Gizzard]

Or just make them viewable privately to each person or something

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe we should have average posts a day shown?

[King Gizzard]

We used to I think, statistics, and who had posted the most on that day, but that was the old forum