'PENNY DREADFUL' (new Showtime/Sky Atlantic Victorian Gothic Horror TV Series!)

[JTM45]

Anyone else see the first episode of this new show ?
It's set in Victorian England and is a kinda' Gothic style Horror fantasy featuring Vampire's, Dr.Frankenstein and his 'monster', Dorian Grey and much, much more!
Just as a side note, the show was executive produced by John Logan and......... Sam Mendes of all people!
There's a great cast as well. Here's just a few of the people who are in it;
Eva Green is the main female character in the show who's a strong, take no sh*t , heroine type.
Josh Hartnett is an American 'hired gun' type of character.
Timothy Dalton plays Sir Malcolm who's a hardened African Explorer come investigator type.
Billie Piper plays an Irish immigrant who's come to London to escape her 'dark past'.
Rory Kinnear plays Frankenstein's Monster!!!!
..........and the list goes on.

I think it actually airs officially on the 11th of May but apparently it can be viewed online in the US on Showtime's Youtube Channel and on Showtime on Demand, Hulu and many other sites.
I'm in the UK so i downloaded it as it's very readily available online and i'm pretty sure you could also use something like Hotspot Shield if you're in the UK to change your ISP to an American one and then watch it somewhere like IGN.

I actually just tried switching on Hotspot Shield and it does indeed enable you to watch the full first episode (totally commercial free!) on IGN from the UK that way. Apparently you can use the Hola extension in your browser to watch it from the UK too.
Here's a link;
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/04/28/watch-showtimes-penny-dreadful-premiere-now

While it bordered on being a touch on the cheesy side at times i found it very entertaining all the same and will definitely watch a few more episodes before making a definitive judgement.
Overall i couldn't help thinking that it had a distinct feel of that 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' movie but i thought it wasfar better!
It's got a warning for 'Graphic Violence', 'Nudity' and 'Adult Themes' before the show just in case you were thinking of watching it with the kids!:hugesmile:
The production values were excellent as were the creatures and the special effects were very nicely done too.

I'd definitely recommend giving at least the first episode a try if you're into this kind of thing. Anything but 'Dreadful' i thought. :thumbs:

[GypsyGoth]

:amazed:

Been waiting for this to begin. Will down it and watch it tomorrow.

[JTM45]

I think it'll probably be right up your ally! :laugh:
It was much better than i was expecting it to be from the very short write-up i'd read a few weeks back.
I think there's either 8 or 10 episodes in the series.

You're in the UK right ?
Do you have Dropbox ? If you have any trouble getting hold of the episode i could send it to you through Dropbox (i think anyway ? Only ever used it to send pdf's before).

[james130]

I've been waiting for this too!
Had no idea it was starting so soon.

Billie. :love:

[GypsyGoth]

Thanks JTM :love: but I found a torrent for it no prob.

And wow! The show is like a horror version of sherlock holmes, I love the characters.

I was very impressed, and the cast is great.

[Jords]

Been looking forward to this; shall give it a watch sometime this week!

[JTM45]

The second episode of this show was on earlier tonight.
I've got hold of it but haven't watched it yet. Should be a good measure of whether it's gonna' be any good going forward or not.

[JTM45]

Just watched the second episode and i enjoyed it even more than the first!
Billy Piper's Irish accent was well dodgy but Eva Green was absolutely amazing!!! Definitely a bit wilder than the first episode. Loved it!:thumbs:

[GypsyGoth]

:amazed: will watch it tomorrow.

[Marsh.]

What exactly is this about?

[JTM45]

What exactly is this about?

Apparently 'Penny Dreadfuls' (also known as 'Bloods') were inexpensive, serialized violent crime novels popularized in mid to late Victorian era England which were usually released in 8-page regular installments. They were known for their highly sensational horror/gore/slasher type themes and also featured fictional mythical beings such as Vampires, Werewolves and Ghouls and that kind of thing.
That sort of describes the whole feel of the show and the origin of the title but the show has a lot more to it besides these themes.

The main characters are (possibly retired ?) Explorer Sir Malcolm Murray, played by Timothy Dalton, and his sidekick Vanessa Ives, played by Eva Green. They appear to live together (i think ?) but aren't related or in a relationship. It almost feels like she could be his niece or something.
Sir Malcolm is on a deeply personal quest to find his daughter Mina who, it would appear, has been kidnapped in deeply mysterious and as yet unexplained circumstances.
It also features well known fictional characters of the time like Victor Frankenstein (and his 'creation' of course!), Dorian Gray and we've also seen some rather interesting Vampire based creatures too.
Another one of the main characters is a bloke called Ethan Chandler, played by Josh Hartnett, who we first see working in one of those Wild West American touring shows they used to have back then. He's a trick-shot Gunslinger type of performer. He ends up being offered work by Sir Malcolm as his hired gun-toting muscle to assist him and Vanessa Ives in their search for his daughter.

That pretty much covers the basics of the show i think. It's definitely aimed at the adult audience with lots of 'F's' (the swear filter has gone into overdrive here these days!) and even a liberal smattering of the 'C' word in the second episode this week (i was quite pleasantly surprised by this, it being a Showtime/Sky TV production and all). There's also a certain amount of nudity as well (a nearly naked Billy Piper this week!), which is always good!
The first episode was entertaining but i was unsure how it would shape up but i personally thought this week's second episode (called 'Seance') was really excellent, highly entertaining viewing!!!

I'm a longtime fan of Eva Green anyway (i know there's a lot of people who aren't) but so far in this i think she's been absolutely brilliant!!!!
The look of the show, particularly some of the outdoor scenes depicting the (no doubt somewhat exaggerated for dramatic effect) smoggy, grey and eerie Victorian Gothic feel of 19th century London are really fantastic i think. The look of the busy London harbor/dock in episode two was as good as, if not better than, anything you see in big-budget Hollywood movies these days!

Hope that goes some way to giving you an idea of what the show's all about. I tried to explain it as well as i could without giving away any actual plot Spoilers etc..

I'm quite excited to see where it goes from here!:thumbs:

[Marsh.]

Sounds quite interesting. I think I'll download episode 1 and see how it goes.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

cant wait for this

[Good King Glennceslas]

I've put a series link on sky for it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

might try this

[JTM45]

Did you watch episode 2 after Gypsy ?
I had to watch it a second time and i don't often do that with a TV show episode (unless the show has finished and i'm re-watching the whole thing over. I've watched the entire run of Battlestar Galactica 5 times over so far!!!:thumbs:).

I enjoyed it just as much on the second viewing. Only problem was that Billy Piper's terrible accent annoyed me even more the second time round. It's a shame because i normally quite like her.

We've gotta' wait until next bloody Sunday (the 25th) for the next new episode now though apparently!!! Gutted.:sad:

[JTM45]

might try this

Give it a go!

By the end of episode 2 i couldn't wait for episode 3.
I think it would have been a good idea for them to have aired the first two episodes as a TV movie premier thing because while i enjoyed the first episode it's not until episode 2 that it really starts waking up........and it really does wake up!:thumbs:

[arista]

On NOW

[JTM45]

On NOW

Did you watch it Arista ?
The reviews seem to be rather positive on the whole. Even IMDB has an 8.9/10 score at the moment.

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[arista]

Yes
some good actors
Quality

[GypsyGoth]

Did you watch episode 2 after Gypsy ?
I had to watch it a second time and i don't often do that with a TV show episode (unless the show has finished and i'm re-watching the whole thing over. I've watched the entire run of Battlestar Galactica 5 times over so far!!!:thumbs:).

I enjoyed it just as much on the second viewing. Only problem was that Billy Piper's terrible accent annoyed me even more the second time round. It's a shame because i normally quite like her.

We've gotta' wait until next bloody Sunday (the 25th) for the next new episode now though apparently!!! Gutted.:sad:

I did, it's a great show and it's kinda like a well written fanfiction the way characters from separate gothic books encounter each other.

And yea Piper's accent was unnecessarily hard to make out at times. Hopefully she tones it down a bit. But that would be my only gripe with the show, and actually it's not that big a deal, I do love listening to accents so I got the majority of her lines.

Also I think London during that time is one of the greatest setting you could have for a story, it always seems like there are adventures and mysteries on every street corner. Anyway yep I'm looking forward to the next ep :D

[smeagol]

gonna watch this when its all over. eva green Mmm yes indeedy cant wait to see her in sin city as well Mmmm lol

[arista]

on now

[JTM45]

Yep....another really great episode this week again!!! Loved it.:thumbs:
I'd imagine it was probably a body double but regardless, Billy Piper redeemed her terrible accent with some splendid ass-thrust action this week. A bit of nudity from Miss Green wouldn't go amiss either! :hugesmile:

I enjoyed the broadening of Frankenstein's story in this episode too, and the new weird evil boy is intriguing too (just who is this "Master" of whom he speaks ?). You just know he's gonna' be trouble that one!

The whole night trip to the Zoo was interesting too.

I'm loving the dialogue of the show too. It's wonderfully written. Frankenstein's 'first born' definitely stole the show for me this week!

Next week's episode can't come soon enough.:bouncy:

[Slevin]

i didnt care much for the pilot but i dont give up so easily. i like to see a few episodes of something that peaked my interest before i decide. episode 2 was an improvement and i'll be watching the rest. havent watched 3 yet.

[arista]

on now

[ChristmasNeeve]

Anyone watching this? Season 2 has been really good

[Lostie!]

I've been watching but I'm a few episodes behind, need to catch up. :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

The last couple of episodes have been brilliant, I think next weeks is the finale

[Lostie!]

Just finished Season 2 (after planning to for months and months :laugh:). Phenomenal. This really is one of the best shows on TV. :clap2:

Some Season 3 teasers have been released:

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[ChristmasNeeve]

Do we have a date for Season 3 yet Lostie?

[Lostie!]

Do we have a date for Season 3 yet Lostie?

1st of May according to this: http://tvline.com/2016/01/12/penny-dreadful-season-3-premiere-date-showtime/.

Still feels like ages away. :bawling::laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Well atleast you've only just finished S2

[Lostie!]

Yeah, one of the things that kept making me push it back was knowing Season 3 was a bit of a way off but I couldn't hold off any longer. :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I'm dying for a Bronagh/Ethan reunion

[Lostie!]

Oh yes me too! I really want him to meet Lily. I'd be surprised if we didn't get that in Season 3.

I love Lily (as you can probably tell right now :laugh:). :love:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Oh yes me too! I really want him to meet Lily. I'd be surprised if we didn't get that in Season 3.

I love Lily (as you can probably tell right now :laugh:). :love:

Yeah, she's a brilliant character, more so now she's gone full evil and teamed up with Dorian.

[Lostie!]

Yeah, she's a brilliant character, more so now she's gone full evil and teamed up with Dorian.

Yeah definitely, and it works so well since she started as such a sympathetic character in the first season. Brona's evolution into Lily is definitely one of my very favourite stories from the show.

I read an interview with Billie where she said that she knew from the very start what was going to happen with Brona which is pretty cool. :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I like the Northern Irish accent but it was really irritating from Billie lol I was glad when she was resurrected with a new voice

[Dollface]

Me no likey Lily :(

[Lostie!]

I like the Northern Irish accent but it was really irritating from Billie lol I was glad when she was resurrected with a new voice

Yeah I know what you mean. And her new voice suits her new evil personality much better anyway. :laugh:

This scene :love:

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This show is so well-crafted, it takes grisly scenes and makes them darkly artistic. :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Me no likey Lily :(


Aw Why?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah I know what you mean. And her new voice suits her new evil personality much better anyway. :laugh:



This scene :love:



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This show is so well-crafted, it takes grisly scenes and makes them darkly artistic. :laugh:


Yeah it really does, it fantastically gothic and beautiful

[Lostie!]

Yeah it really does, it fantastically gothic and beautiful

Yeah that's a perfect way of describing it. :clap2:

I love that it's not just mindless gore as a lot of horror is nowadays, and it captures the gothic Victorian mood so well I think.

[Lostie!]

They've released a new Season 3 trailer

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and the new poster

http://screencrush.com/442/files/2016/02/Penny-dreadful-pic1.jpg?w=630&cdnnode=1

:love::love::love:

[Lostie!]

Another new trailer :spin:

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And the first 5 episode titles (I always love PD's episode titles :laugh:)

"The Day Tennyson Died"
"Predators Far and Near"
"Good and Evil Braided Be"
"A Blade of Grass"
"This World is Our Hell"

Only a few weeks until this is back! :D

[Lostie!]

Just watched last week's season 3 premiere. I really loved it and Eva Green was once again brilliant, very excited for the rest of the season. :clap1:

Dracula finally making an appearance (well, his voice at least)! That voice was creepy as hell. :flutter:

I like how they've introduced more elements from the Dracula story too with Renfield and a gender-swapped Dr Seward (and since Patti Lupone was in Season 2 as a different character I like how they made Seward an ancestor of her).

The production values continue to be on point, honestly one of the most well-made shows on TV by far.

[Lostie!]

Really enjoyed episode 2 too. :clap1:

Dr Sweet being Dracula was fully expected, but I'm glad he is. I've loved Christian Camargo as Sweet so far so I'm really looking forward to seeing more of him as Dracula.

Really excited to see where this Frankenstein / Jekyll / Lily story goes too and if they can actually bring back Brona's personality (I doubt it :laugh:). The Frankenstein / Lily scene outside Dorian's house was great. :love:

I assume Hyde will enter the picture as a result of Jekyll's medication he uses to treat the violently insane.

[Dollface]

haven't watched ep 2 yet but ep 1 of season 3 was kinda boring imo :worry: like, i was expecting more? BUT i'm liking dr jekyl and dracula being included (finally)
where the hell is lily and dorian though? dorian's my fave character :( (beside the creature)

[Lostie!]

They're in the second episode. Lily's my favourite. :love:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Really enjoyed episode 2 too. :clap1:

Dr Sweet being Dracula was fully expected, but I'm glad he is. I've loved Christian Camargo as Sweet so far so I'm really looking forward to seeing more of him as Dracula.

Really excited to see where this Frankenstein / Jekyll / Lily story goes too and if they can actually bring back Brona's personality (I doubt it :laugh:). The Frankenstein / Lily scene outside Dorian's house was great. :love:

I assume Hyde will enter the picture as a result of Jekyll's medication he uses to treat the violently insane being used on him for some reason and having the reverse effect or if they put a twist on it and it turns out Hyde is his real personality and he's Jekyll while under the medication.

Frankenstein annoys me, he wants to own Lily. Imo Lily is doing pretty good work, she's only killing people who deserve to be killed really lets be honest. like that weird ass group in that live snuff show thing.

[Lostie!]

Frankenstein annoys me, he wants to own Lily. Imo Lily is doing pretty good work, she's only killing people who deserve to be killed really lets be honest. like that weird ass group in that live snuff show thing.

Yeah that's true, so far she's only killed men who objectify and/or abuse women. I mean, I could still see her killing innocents without batting an eyelid but it's a nice touch that she does at least care for people who remind her of herself and the degradation she went through as Brona. Makes her a lot more interesting than she would have been if they just went full-on cliche supervillain with her and forgot about her motivations.

I'd like her to turn on Dorian at some point too. :whistle:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah that's true, so far she's only killed men who objectify and/or abuse women. I mean, I could still see her killing innocents without batting an eyelid but it's a nice touch that she does at least care for people who remind her of herself and the degradation she went through as Brona. Makes her a lot more interesting than she would have been if they just went full-on cliche supervillain with her and forgot about her motivations.

I'd like her to turn on Dorian at some point too. :whistle:

I kind of liked Dorian until he killed Angelique

[Lostie!]

I kind of liked Dorian until he killed Angelique

Same. He can't be forgiven for that. :hmph:

I hope Ethan meets Lily eventually (I keep forgetting Dorian's slept with him too so that reunion would be even more interesting :laugh:).

[ChristmasNeeve]

Same. He can't be forgiven for that. :hmph:

I hope Ethan meets Lily eventually (I keep forgetting Dorian's slept with him too so that reunion would be even more interesting :laugh:).

I know, can't wait for that reunion either. She will surely remember him

[Lostie!]

Watching last week's episode now. Lily mentioning Ethan was a nice touch (funny timing since we'd just been talking about them :laugh:). Now they just need to come face to face again.

[Lostie!]

The ending :o :o

[ChristmasNeeve]

Watching last week's episode now. Lily mentioning Ethan was a nice touch (funny timing since we'd just been talking about them :laugh:). Now they just need to come face to face again.

I know, I loved them together :flutter:

The ending :o :o

She's like a Gothic Dexter :laugh:

[Lostie!]

She's like a Gothic Dexter :laugh:

I assume you mean Lily? I was talking about the flashback at the end with the Creature being Vanessa's orderly. :laugh:

But speaking of Lily, I'd love her to kill Dorian eventually. I wonder if destroying his portrait would kill him. :hee:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I assume you mean Lily? I was talking about the flashback at the end with the Creature being Vanessa's orderly. :laugh:

But speaking of Lily, I'd love her to kill Dorian eventually. I wonder if destroying his portrait would kill him. :hee:

Ohhhhh yeah, I forgot about that bit

It does in the book of Dorian grey anyway so maybe so

[Lostie!]

Ohhhhh yeah, I forgot about that bit

It does in the book of Dorian grey anyway so maybe so

:fc:

Dorian's no less evil than the rest of the men Lily is vowing revenge upon. He murdered another mistreated member of society who loved him just because he thought she knew too much. Lily at least has motivations for going all psycho, Dorian just seems to be in it for the blood-lust.

Justice for Angelique!!! :fist:

[ChristmasNeeve]

:fc:

Dorian's no less evil than the rest of the men Lily is vowing revenge upon. He murdered another mistreated member of society who loved him just because he thought she knew too much. Lily at least has motivations for going all psycho, Dorian just seems to be in it for the blood-lust.

Justice for Angelique!!! :fist:

Yep totally agree, he's a horrible character in the book version aswell, shallow and vain

[Lostie!]

I will admit I was surprised by him being revealed as evil last season. I'd never read the book and so I fell for his nice-guy act so it was a cool twist for me. :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

In the book, he'll get obsessed by interesting people but tires of them quickly and carelessly tosses them aside once he gets bored of them

[Lostie!]

I really need to read it tbh. That, Dracula and Frankenstein are all high on my wishlist. :laugh:

[Lostie!]

The latest episode :clap1:

That scene with Lucifer and Dracula both trying to manipulate Vanessa at the same time (with a serpent shadow appearing for Lucifer and a bat shadow appearing for Dracula) in particular was fantastic.

I can't believe Vanessa and the Creature have so much history together that we (and they) were never aware of. Since his memories of his life are returning to him I assume he'll remember meeting Vanessa soon enough.

I love Dr Seward, a great addition to the show. :love:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Just caught up on the last two episodes, loved Vanessas episode so much. Eva Green is a crazy good actress, I watched her episode and then Ethans straight after and Ethans just couldn't compare to Vanessas. I loved their history too Lostie, although i was pretty worried that it would turn out that Vanessa was the one who killed him for a bit :worry:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I never realised that Penny dreadful was filmed in Ireland

[Lostie!]

Just watching last week's now. I know Hecate's an evil baby-murderer and generally an awful human being but I kind of respect that she's an animal lover. :whistle:

Just caught up on the last two episodes, loved Vanessas episode so much. Eva Green is a crazy good actress, I watched her episode and then Ethans straight after and Ethans just couldn't compare to Vanessas. I loved their history too Lostie, although i was pretty worried that it would turn out that Vanessa was the one who killed him for a bit :worry:

Never considered that, that would have been an awesome twist!

[Lostie!]

The horse, poor thing :bawling:

[Lostie!]

Ethan going to the dark side :omgno:

[Lostie!]

Just watched the latest one, loved it :clap1:

It really seems like they're building towards Justine killing Dorian. Or maybe Lily will realise she doesn't need him and do it :think:

The goodbye between Vanessa and Lyle </3 I love their friendship.

Vanessa sleeping with Dracula can't be good :worry:

[Lostie!]

Ooooh, the ending of the last episode :o

[ChristmasNeeve]

I Know :worry: Dorian the dirty bastard and I hate Frankenstein so much, sexist horrible **** arrgghh

[Lostie!]

The scene with Lily and the grieving mother at the graveyard :love: (I can't believe Brona had a child who died </3)

The production values in that scene in particular were stunning (as they are in the whole show). :love:

[ChristmasNeeve]

The creature reuniting with his family though :flutter:

Ugh I'm hoping something happens that stops them changing Lily but I can't see what would now unless Justine followed them or something.......clutching at straws now

[Lostie!]

Yeah that was so sweet, the first bit of real happiness he's had in the show too. I also like how he acknowledged the bad things he's done since coming back, makes him all the more sympathetic.

Lily's one of the best characters so I hope so :fc:

I love Dr Seward and Catriona Hartdegen.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Oh or maybe Justine will find his Portrait and destroy it

[Lostie!]

Oh or maybe Justine will find his Portrait and destroy it

I've been thinking that for a few episodes. Tbh he pretty much dared her to do it in the latest episode :whistle:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Oh you know what the worst part for me was? When Lily tried to run and she fell because she was chained to the chair and Dorian laughed at her. He's a pig I hate him :fist:

[Lostie!]

Oh you know what the worst part for me was? When Lily tried to run and she fell because she was chained to the chair and Dorian laughed at her. He's a pig I hate him :fist:

Yeah, he's a prick. He's running scared because Lily's turned out to be more of an independent thinker and less of a toy that he anticipated.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah, he's a prick. He's running scared because Lily's turned out to be more of an independent thinker and less of a toy that he anticipated.

he's really turning into that character from the books though, that actor plays him well

[Lostie!]

Keep forgetting it's a double-episode finale this week!

No news on Season 4 yet so I'm preparing myself for this to be the end until some news comes (:fc:)

[Lostie!]

Just watched the first episode of the finale.

Renfield is SO brilliantly eerie, he really creeps me out. I love how, since the start of the season, he's gone from mild-mannered secretary to raving madman. And as far as I'm aware he's an asylum patient in the Dracula novel so I like how he ended up in the asylum by the end of this episode. I also love how vampiric he now looks even though he actually isn't a vampire.

The smog that's engulfed London since Vanessa submitted to Dracula looks great and really elevates the whole gothic atmosphere and I like the concept of it essentially being a plague.

Billie Piper once again knocked it out of the park (and Victor let her go without giving her the serum, thank God for that!). Justine's death was sad (and Dorian was surprisingly tender about it), so I guess our theory about her killing him was wrong :laugh:

A bit ominous that Vanessa didn't appear in the episode, but obviously we'll see her in all her Mother of Evil glory in the next one. I wonder if she's gone full evil.

[Lostie!]

:bawling:

I guess we now know why there's been no word of a Season 4 renewal yet. That was the finale of the show. As sad as that is since this is a phenomenal show, I had worried that it would be cancelled abruptly and end without a resolution but they were clearly writing this as an ending.

My jaw dropped when Vanessa died. I sort of expected it because I'd seen a headline on a site earlier saying something like "SPOILER dies!" and I read somewhere else about it feeling like a final episode so I figured it had to be a big chararcter and Vanessa is the main protagonist after all, but still when it happened I was still shocked. Vanessa Ives has to be one of the most tragic characters I've seen on screen and Eva Green has been phenomenal. :love:

When she died, I started thinking that this must be the end because I can't picture a show without Vanessa but it was only when "The End" appeared on screen that it really hit that this was it. I'm just so glad they gave everything a real feeling of finality, even as early as the Lily / Dorian scene I was thinking how much it felt like they were ending the story because of how fitting it seemed (Lily finally leaving Dorian and that last shot of him standing there saying "I'll always be here").

I guess The Creature ends up alone again in the end since his wife told him to not return if he doesn't go to Frankenstein to bring their son back and he chose to bury him at sea instead. Really sad since he'd spent this season to reunite with his family but fitting for the character.

I wish the show continued on because there were so many other stories that could have been told and to suddenly have it all end and wrap up did feel a little quick and rushed in places but it was apparently John Logan's decision for this season to be the end so I'm just glad the show got a real ending. It's been amazing, I'm definitely gonna miss it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I watched the finale last night Lostie

Ugh I don't know how I feel about it all, everyone ended up more miserable than they'd ever been. Not one of them got a halfway happy ending, Vanessa died oh and you know what annoyed most of the whole thing? Lily and Ethan never crossed paths, I'd been waiting for that to happen ever since Frankenstein took her!

I suppose it was fitting really for the tone the whole of the show was anyway, there wasn't really going to be a happy ending but I thought maybe atleast one of them might get that :laugh:

Anyway, over all a brilliant show so beautifully shot, great acting and of course Eva Green was the absolute star of the whole thing

[Lostie!]

I watched the finale last night Lostie

Ugh I don't know how I feel about it all, everyone ended up more miserable than they'd ever been. Not one of them got a halfway happy ending, Vanessa died oh and you know what annoyed most of the whole thing? Lily and Ethan never crossed paths, I'd been waiting for that to happen ever since Frankenstein took her!

I suppose it was fitting really for the tone the whole of the show was anyway, there wasn't really going to be a happy ending but I thought maybe atleast one of them might get that :laugh:

Anyway, over all a brilliant show so beautifully shot, great acting and of course Eva Green was the absolute star of the whole thing

Yeah I know what you mean. I'd say Ethan and Malcolm got the closest to "happy" (though it was more than bittersweet) since they stick together at the end but all the other main characters just ended up alone (or in Vanessa's case, dead). But yeah, for me that sort of thing works for this sort of show but it totally makes sense how that might not be satisfactory to all.

And I agree about Ethan and Lily. To be honest, as much as I'm glad that the ends were tied up and everything had a conclusion, I do feel like it was a bit out of nowhere and rushed and plenty more could have happened in between had they continued for a little longer. And especially with a show like this that draws from gothic literature, they had so many more potential stories to tell. I know John Logan wanted to end it now so it seemingly wasn't a case of it being cancelled and him rushing an ending, but it still felt a little that way if I'm honest :laugh:

And then there's characters like Seward and Catriona who we only met this season and I could have seen being permanent fixtures within the group had the show continued. Catriona especially was only in like two / three episodes which is a shame, I thought the show would go on and we'd get more from her and learn more about her past.

Still, it was of course a beautiful final episode and having it end with Vanessa dying and a voiceover from the Creature felt right to me. I just wish we had more until we got there and more of a build to the ending.

[Lostie!]

Oh and I loved the special opening titles of the finale (another reason I figured it was the last episode when watching it :laugh:), they were stunning.

[Lostie!]

IT'S (sort of) RETURNING!!

A new series called Penny Dreadful: City of Angels has been ordered, but seems to not be a continuation of the original story.

Penny Dreadful: City of Angels is set in 1938 Los Angeles, a time and place deeply infused with Mexican-American folklore and social tension. Rooted in the conflict between characters connected to the deity Santa Muerte and others allied with the Devil, the new series will explore a mix of the supernatural and the reality of the time period.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/penny-dreadful-city-of-angels-showtime-1203017159/

https://i.imgur.com/g93xLVK.jpg