The only twist that would shock the nation and the house would be

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If on launch night Big Brother sat everyone down on the sofa and told them the public will no longer vote.

From now on its up to the housemates who stays and who goes.

Simple but explosive plus we wouldn't have to sit through endless reminders of the telephone numbers to evict on eviction shows.

Also we can finally be done with the public voting out the bigger characters. Maybe only let the public vote on the winner and that's it.

EDIT: Can I please add a pole to this simply with 2 options saying Good idea? Bad idea?

[Shaun]

I'd be happy with this (I never vote anyway).

[Jack_]

plz

It's time to adopt the (vastly superior) US format where thankfully the public have little or no say on what happens

Although when I suggested this the other week you said you wouldn't like to see it :suspect:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

plz

It's time to adopt the (vastly superior) US format where thankfully the public have little or no say on what happens

Although when I suggested this the other week you said you wouldn't like to see it :suspect:

No I said I wouldn't like nomination talk.

I still think they shouldn't be allowed to discuss nominations until they all have to sit and nominate each other. That way the whole show wont be all about nom talk but it will be bubbling under the surface and cause a lot more tension and paranoia.

[Jack_]

The US/CAN live feeds aren't all noms/votes talk though, yes there's a lot of it (and it's very interesting) but there is still downtime where they just chat usual stuff. The main show is mainly strategy stuff yes but there are still little bits that focus around relationships/friendships

I don't think that format would work if they couldn't discuss things

I mean they could always adopt a Survivor-esque format and just do a weekly immunity comp and then have every housemate cast a vote live on eviction night and then if there's a tie give the immunity holder the deciding vote. I'd prefer the US format but at least that'd be a bit more creative

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The US/CAN live feeds aren't all noms/votes talk though, yes there's a lot of it (and it's very interesting) but there is still downtime where they just chat usual stuff. The main show is mainly strategy stuff yes but there are still little bits that focus around relationships/friendships

I don't think that format would work if they couldn't discuss things

I mean they could always adopt a Survivor-esque format and just do a weekly immunity comp and then have every housemate cast a vote live on eviction night and then if there's a tie give the immunity holder the deciding vote. I'd prefer the US format but at least that'd be a bit more creative

No you're making it to complicated lol.

Keep it simple just take away the public vote and let the housemates get on with it themselves.

Simple.

[andybigbro]

No I prefer that the public has input. I feel it would keep he show more popular with the media etc and create more of a buzz.

[Jordan.]

That would just cause the public to have less interest if anything

[joe199998293]

This would be terrible. Like last year near the start we all loved Gina... but most of the housemates hated her. They would vote her out and we'd be sat disappointed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

That would just cause the public to have less interest if anything

Really?

I would say only a small percentage of the actual viewing public bother to vote anyway.

[Jack_]

No you're making it to complicated lol.

Keep it simple just take away the public vote and let the housemates get on with it themselves.

Simple.

I'm not :suspect: you say 'let them get on with it' but then what's the format? Which housemates vote? How many people do they vote for? Are there separate noms and an eviction vote or just an eviction vote? Are there immunity competitions? Who decides the winner?

The US already have a non-public involvement format in place we could adopt, all I suggested was simplifying it even more by just having every housemate vote and the person with the most votes each week leaves

[T*]

Use thread tools to add a poll. it's at the top of your post

[Jack_]

I'm sure Big Brother is more popular in the US than it is over here when ratings are contextualised, someone might have to verify that for me though

[arista]

If on launch night Big Brother sat everyone down on the sofa and told them the public will no longer vote.

From now on its up to the housemates who stays and who goes.

Simple but explosive plus we wouldn't have to sit through endless reminders of the telephone numbers to evict on eviction shows.

Also we can finally be done with the public voting out the bigger characters. Maybe only let the public vote on the winner and that's it.

EDIT: Can I please add a pole to this simply with 2 options saying Good idea? Bad idea?


Yes do that for First week only
Then Covert Public Voting is back
with Shock Evictions - No time to do hair etc.

Then we are part of it

[Marsh.]

I wouldn't like to adopt the US format. Stick to our format.

But I wouldn't mind tweaking little details just to change it up, it's been 15 years after all. So I wouldn't mind abolishing the public votes. But would channel 5 want to give up the money it makes?

Maybe they could let the public vote for a head of house or something else each week so they still get some cash from phone votes.

[Jack_]

There's plenty of ways you could still have public involvement but take it to more of a US format, Big Brother Canada is like a hybrid of UK/US tbqh

Here's a couple of ideas for y'all:

Weekly HoH competition, winner nominate three housemates for eviction

Power of Veto competition, winner can save a nominee if they wish. HoH names replacement if so

The public then votes to save one of the nominees. On eviction night that person is saved live, then the rest of the housemates (excluding the nominees and HoH) votes for one of the remaining two to be evicted

The winner is decided by the last six people evicted who become the jury, and the public are given the 7th jury vote

Weekly public vote for the entire house, person with the most votes is immune from the vote

Every housemate then goes to the Diary Room live on eviction night to cast a vote for someone else. Person with most votes each week leaves, if there's a tie the person that got immunity gets the deciding vote

Winner decided by a jury as in the last ^ format

[Jordan.]

Really?

I would say only a small percentage of the actual viewing public bother to vote anyway.

It's not just the voting. We'd end up with a house full of bores after all the controversial people get voted out or they'd have to do a series full of bitchy game players which the general public wouldn't be here for.

[Jack_]

In all honesty it's surprising how quite a few of the 'controversial' people who would be hated over here do fairly well in the US (and are sometimes supported) and to be honest I'd say they get better bunches of people left at the end of their seasons than BBUK

I don't mind so much if my favourite is evicted via the house in their versions because it's more often than not their own fault that they didn't play a good game, that's more preferable than great housemates in the UK being evicted cause the cat ladies prefer hot male housemates or people that say nothing

[Cal.]

No, I'd like the public vote still. I don't vote but the public vote offers surprises and shocks at evictions and in the final, we'd pretty much know who would be getting evicted if the housemates did it themselves by who hated who/liked who.

[Daniel.]

It should happen but it won't.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm not :suspect: you say 'let them get on with it' but then what's the format? Which housemates vote? How many people do they vote for? Are there separate noms and an eviction vote or just an eviction vote? Are there immunity competitions? Who decides the winner?

The US already have a non-public involvement format in place we could adopt, all I suggested was simplifying it even more by just having every housemate vote and the person with the most votes each week leaves

I already said the public eventually decides the winner.

Nomination wise everything stays the same its just the housemates decide which of the nominated housemates will leave live on eviction night.

Exactly the same just taking away the publics decision and giving it to the housemates.

You really are thinking far to deep into it, I didn't mention any immunity competitions,how many people will vote ect because as in my first post states EVERYTHING STAYS EXACTLY THE SAME except the housemates decide who leaves on a Friday.

The format is 14 housemates live in a house, everyweek they will each nominate 2 people the housemates with the most votes will face eviction on Friday


Can you just understand that?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's not just the voting. We'd end up with a house full of bores after all the controversial people get voted out or they'd have to do a series full of bitchy game players which the general public wouldn't be here for.

That already happens with the public vote.

[Jack_]

Well firstly there's no need to be rude but secondly you have um...basically just described a cross between the US format and the straight vote I suggested up there ^ so your confusion at my posts seems a little strange

If there's ten housemates left, after nominations two housemates are up for eviction, so eight people vote...what happens if the vote ties? :umm2:

[Samm]

It's not just the voting. We'd end up with a house full of bores after all the controversial people get voted out or they'd have to do a series full of bitchy game players which the general public wouldn't be here for.

This

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well firstly there's no need to be rude but secondly you have um...basically just described a cross between the US format and the straight vote I suggested up there ^ so your confusion at my posts seems a little strange

If there's ten housemates left, after nominations two housemates are up for eviction, so eight people vote...what happens if the vote ties? :umm2:

*Gets up and walks out of thread.

[Marsh.]

Have a public online poll as a backup. If the housemates fail to reach a majority decision on the Friday they revert to that poll. :laugh:

[Jordan.]

That already happens with the public vote.

Not really. BB14 had a mix of entertainment and bores in the final, the public vote keeps it balanced.

[Jack_]

*Gets up and walks out of thread.

Sorry but you can't have a format without contingency plans for loopholes, the entire show would fall apart

[Jack_]

Have a public online poll as a backup. If the housemates fail to reach a majority decision on the Friday they revert to that poll. :laugh:

Sounds fair, that's all he needed to say :laugh:

I personally wouldn't see the point in having noms and then another vote though, you may as well scrap the noms and just have a straight eviction vote...the results are going to go the same way

[reece(:]

Not really. BB14 had a mix of entertainment and bores in the final, the public vote keeps it balanced.
Ye but the entertainment needed twists to save them or else it would've been all bores

[jyunga]

I don't think this would work well. Once you take away the public vote you take away caring about the personalities of the players. Game play will take over the show, the producers will start using the DR to manipulate people and you'll lose 'Big Brother' DR sessions as they are no longer important. DR session will become edited for game play and become extremely fake, just like the US format.

[Marsh.]

I already hate the US style editing where we cut to and from a housemate in the diary room describing in banal detail something which we're watching for ourselves.

[Videostar]

Terrible idea, the HM's would just vote out those who cause friction and who have strong personalities...we'd be left with a BB4 type of house by week 4...no thanks. :nono:

[Beastie]

If on launch night Big Brother sat everyone down on the sofa and told them the public will no longer vote.

From now on its up to the housemates who stays and who goes.

Simple but explosive plus we wouldn't have to sit through endless reminders of the telephone numbers to evict on eviction shows.

Also we can finally be done with the public voting out the bigger characters. Maybe only let the public vote on the winner and that's it.

EDIT: Can I please add a pole to this simply with 2 options saying Good idea? Bad idea?


This is a brilliant idea!! And in the last week we only vote for the winner!!!!!

[Beastie]

And all the housemates should be free to talk about nominations.

[Beastie]

Terrible idea, the HM's would just vote out those who cause friction and who have strong personalities...we'd be left with a BB4 type of house by week 4...no thanks. :nono:

I don't think so. With the freedom to talk about nominations I am sure the housemates would be savvy enough to pick on the ones who are most likely to win (usually the quiet, boring, harmless ones)

[Beastie]

I don't think this would work well. Once you take away the public vote you take away caring about the personalities of the players. Game play will take over the show, the producers will start using the DR to manipulate people and you'll lose 'Big Brother' DR sessions as they are no longer important. DR session will become edited for game play and become extremely fake, just like the US format.

Better than any tacky showmances shoved down our throats.

[Videostar]

I don't think so. With the freedom to talk about nominations I am sure the housemates would be savvy enough to pick on the ones who are most likely to win (usually the quiet, boring, harmless ones)

Hmmm, fair point.

[Will.]

I think A big twist, that would blow the nation, would be to have a young housemate, like 15 or 16. Im 15 and would definitely go on. I think it would be great if the housemates voted out each other.

[armand.kay]

Yass!!
but I think they should be aloud to discus nominations/eviction vote it will add the tension and make it less predictable. If one housemate gets the most nominations then they will obviously be voted off.

[Josy]

Horrible Idea IMO. And definitely one that would put me off watching after all these years.

The public are what keep this show going, they have so much interest because they are allowed an input, watch to form opinions on the hm's and then enjoy getting the chance to get rid of the ones they class to be arseholes, not to mention the money that's generated through the votes..

Also this is not the US and I don't want our BB to be anything like that one, if I did I would watch the US one.

[armand.kay]

The us format is flawless because the final is hardly ever boring even though the public don't vote.

[Marsh.]

I think A big twist, that would blow the nation, would be to have a young housemate, like 15 or 16. Im 15 and would definitely go on. I think it would be great if the housemates voted out each other.

No, there are valid reasons the underage can't go in.

Teen Big Brother being one of the obvious. :yuk:

[Niamh.]

That would just cause the public to have less interest if anything

I agree, losing control over the "baddies" would just annoy people

[reece(:]

The public cannot be trusted, ditch their vote

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The public **** up every year. You have to admit the public almost allways kick out the entertainment and almost allways vote for the bore to win.

Take the control out of their hands and make them learn their lesson for abusing their power to vote all these years lol.

[Scream]

they just need to STICK to three people up in a vote to save and not make silly mistakes like letting the public vote on week 1 who should be up for eviction and then be evicted... (Sallie, Gina, Dexter!?!)

It seems really crap...I also would expect people to be less argumentative with each other because they'll get votes against them and be off. It seems weird.

[Apple202]

no imagine if this was BB13 Conor would have won

[Marsh.]

I enjoy people like Sallie getting booted first.

They are not entertaining. They take over the show with their attention seeking, selfish antics.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I enjoy people like Sallie getting booted first.

They are not entertaining. They take over the show with their attention seeking, selfish antics.

Yes because Sam was far more entertaining than Sallie.

I have no words lol.

[Marsh.]

Yes because Sam was far more entertaining than Sallie.

I have no words lol.

Where did I say that in my post?

Oh yes, I didn't. :idc:

[Doogle]

This would be such a good idea but the public wouldn't like it sadly

I'd be so here for it though, it'd be even more explosive. They would have NO idea if they were liked

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Where did I say that in my post?

Oh yes, I didn't. :idc:

You said you enjoyed when people like Sallie are evicted first.

That would mean you would prefer a character like Sam to stay would it not?

If Sallie and Sam were up for the chop and you had to evict one odds on you would evict Sallie.

[Marsh.]

You said you enjoyed when people like Sallie are evicted first.

That would mean you would prefer a character like Sam to stay would it not?

If Sallie and Sam were up for the chop and you had to evict one odds on you would evict Sallie.

I didn't even mention Sam so this is all assumption. For the record, no I didn't like him. But at the same time, in week 1 we didn't get a chance to see anyone else other than Sallie and Gina.

Getting rid of Sallie who only has the argumentative "are the cameras on me?" streak in her was great in my view and we had a chance to watch some of the others interact.

If you found her act entertaining then great, but I didn't. After 15 years, her act is old and tired.

[Mystic Mock]

Well after watching BBUSA6 the entertainers definitely stand more of a chance of lasting longer with this twist than without it.

[Mystic Mock]

The US/CAN live feeds aren't all noms/votes talk though, yes there's a lot of it (and it's very interesting) but there is still downtime where they just chat usual stuff. The main show is mainly strategy stuff yes but there are still little bits that focus around relationships/friendships

I don't think that format would work if they couldn't discuss things

I mean they could always adopt a Survivor-esque format and just do a weekly immunity comp and then have every housemate cast a vote live on eviction night and then if there's a tie give the immunity holder the deciding vote. I'd prefer the US format but at least that'd be a bit more creative

That BB is a disgrace with all the twists they did to guide Jeda to the top 3.

Trust me if you hate showmances like I do avoid BBCAN as the producers aid them into the top 3.

[Mystic Mock]

Not really. BB14 had a mix of entertainment and bores in the final, the public vote keeps it balanced.

The only one in that BB14 final that was still entertaining was Gina, Dexter was a shadow of his former self, and the other three aren't even worth mentioning.

[Marsh.]

Gina was boring by the end. Her snotty attitude act had worn very thin by the final.

[Mystic Mock]

Gina was boring by the end. Her snotty attitude act had worn very thin by the final.

I still liked Gina, the others in the final did not deserve to beat her at all and the fact that two of them did is really bad imo and shows that the public need to either learn from their mistakes or completely have their vote took away from them as they kill every Big Brother off by the time you get to week 8.

[Marsh.]

I don't really care who wins.

I can understand people wanting their favourites to be there until the end, or the entertaining ones to be there throughout the series.

But as for who actually takes the prize money home makes no difference to me. If I enjoyed the series, those last 5 minutes of someone winning isn't going to change the previous 3 months.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I still liked Gina, the others in the final did not deserve to beat her at all and the fact that two of them did is really bad imo and shows that the public need to either learn from their mistakes or completely have their vote took away from them as they kill every Big Brother off by the time you get to week 8.

100% agree.

[Josy]

I would agree with Marsh and no it doesn't mean I like boring people to stay but constantly overly bitchy annoying people are HELLISH to watch and it all comes down to the same old argument, not everyone finds the same personalities or things entertaining.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't really care who wins.

I can understand people wanting their favourites to be there until the end, or the entertaining ones to be there throughout the series.

But as for who actually takes the prize money home makes no difference to me. If I enjoyed the series, those last 5 minutes of someone winning isn't going to change the previous 3 months.

But if you've watched a BB for 3 months wouldn't you want it to go to someone that actually did stuff? I know not to expect my favourites to always win but I would like someone that did stuff to come out as the winner and I don't get the public when they give the win to Housemates that have hardly featured in the series like your Rachel Rice's and Sam Evans.

[waterhog]

i think this is a brill idea.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But if you've watched a BB for 3 months wouldn't you want it to go to someone that actually did stuff? I know not to expect my favourites to always win but I would like someone that did stuff to come out as the winner and I don't get the public when they give the win to Housemates that have hardly featured in the series like your Rachel Rice's and Sam Evans.

The reason I vote on finale night is literally for the person who has entertained me all summer kind of a thank you lol.

[Mystic Mock]

The reason I vote on finale night is literally for the person who has entertained me all summer kind of a thank you lol.

Exactly, I know we all can't agree on who's the most entertaining but someone entertaining should win imo and I will never understand a lot of the winners that we have had on Big Brother over the years.

[Marsh.]

But if you've watched a BB for 3 months wouldn't you want it to go to someone that actually did stuff? I know not to expect my favourites to always win but I would like someone that did stuff to come out as the winner and I don't get the public when they give the win to Housemates that have hardly featured in the series like your Rachel Rice's and Sam Evans.

Not really because a) It's not my money they're getting :laugh: and b) It makes no difference to the series.

The winner gets the last 30 seconds of the series with a few fireworks (or sparklers nowadays).

The eventual winner just means nothing to me. I can pick someone I'd like to win if it was my choice, but it's not something that bothers me whatsoever.

Like with Anthony in BB6 wouldn't have been my preference as the winner but it doesn't change that series one iota for me, it was still brilliant from start to finish.

[Samm]

Why does every thread about BB15 turn into a BB14 discussion

[Marsh.]

Why does every thread about BB15 turn into a BB14 discussion

Well it's kind of a general discussion about winners/evictions not confined to BB14.

And it's all we have to discuss unless you have some news?

[Mystic Mock]

Not really because a) It's not my money they're getting :laugh: and b) It makes no difference to the series.

The winner gets the last 30 seconds of the series with a few fireworks (or sparklers nowadays).

The eventual winner just means nothing to me. I can pick someone I'd like to win if it was my choice, but it's not something that bothers me whatsoever.

Like with Anthony in BB6 wouldn't have been my preference as the winner but it doesn't change that series one iota for me, it was still brilliant from start to finish.

I loved BB6 as well but it still has that tainted feeling because none of the big guns won.

[Saph]

I like the idea of the public not voting, however I dont like the idea of the HMs choosing who goes

[Mystic Mock]

I like the idea of the public not voting, however I dont like the idea of the HMs choosing who goes

Then the other idea could be that you have two tasks to finish, say you have 16 Housemates the top 13 go through to next week on the first task, and for task 2 the one that does the worst gets evicted.

What do people think of this idea? Could it work?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Then the other idea could be that you have two tasks to finish, say you have 16 Housemates the top 13 go through to next week on the first task, and for task 2 the one that does the worst gets evicted.

What do people think of this idea? Could it work?

Defo, the bottom 2 should be made to fight for their survival if the other housemates or the public aren't going to choose who leaves.