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andybigbro
03-05-2014, 10:38 PM
Also can I just say, the majority of forums wouldn't have discussions about these things.

If they wanted to bring in a new premium feature they would implement it regardless, and if members wanted it they would donate, if the didn't then they wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

Having premium donations wouldn't dismiss members from anything they currently have, it would just allow those who donate benefits for doing so.

Kyle
03-05-2014, 10:39 PM
If you want to implement a tiered system Tom feel free to run your own forum. Until then your going to have to accept that not everybody shares the same view as you and it might be beneficial for your side of the debate if you cut back on the mud slinging.

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 10:41 PM
Also can I just say, the majority of forums wouldn't have discussions about these things.

If they wanted to bring in a new premium feature they would implement it regardless, and if members wanted it they would donate, if the didn't then they wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

Having premium donations wouldn't dismiss members from anything they currently have, it would just allow those who donate benefits for doing so.

Why not just donations though?

T*
03-05-2014, 10:42 PM
Also can I just say, the majority of forums wouldn't have discussions about these things.

If they wanted to bring in a new premium feature they would implement it regardless, and if members wanted it they would donate, if the didn't then they wouldn't. It's as simple as that.

Having premium donations wouldn't dismiss members from anything they currently have, it would just allow those who donate benefits for doing so.

this

andybigbro
03-05-2014, 10:43 PM
Why not just donations though?

Because like it or not, most people do things to get something in return. It's the way the world works.

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 10:45 PM
TheStudentRoom is one of the largest forums in the UK.. it has it's own headquarters with paid staff and is meant to be a source for learning. If such an official and sensible forum like that sees no problem with having a subscription option (with the features I suggested in the OP like coloured usernames and a private section) I don't understand why it'd a problem on a big brother forum :crazy:

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 10:46 PM
TheStudentRoom is one of the largest forums in the UK.. it has it's own headquarters with paid staff and is meant to be a source for learning. If such an official and sensible forum like that sees no problem with having a subscription option (with the features I suggested in the OP like coloured usernames and a private section) I don't understand why it'd a problem on a big brother forum :crazy:

The only problem would be that old people don't like change. Yes, I said it.

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 10:47 PM
Because like it or not, most people do things to get something in return. It's the way the world works.

This tbh

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 10:47 PM
I'm against a private section. Sorry

Samm
03-05-2014, 10:48 PM
TheStudentRoom is one of the largest forums in the UK.. it has it's own headquarters with paid staff and is meant to be a source for learning. If such an official and sensible forum like that sees no problem with having a subscription option (with the features I suggested in the OP like coloured usernames and a private section) I don't understand why it'd a problem on a big brother forum :crazy:

what's TheStudentroom

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 10:48 PM
TheStudentRoom is one of the largest forums in the UK.. it has it's own headquarters with paid staff and is meant to be a source for learning. If such an official and sensible forum like that sees no problem with having a subscription option (with the features I suggested in the OP like coloured usernames and a private section) I don't understand why it'd a problem on a big brother forum :crazy:

Now this idea I could certainly get behind :p

Samm
03-05-2014, 10:48 PM
I'm against a private section. Sorry

There isn't going to be a private section

Josy
03-05-2014, 10:49 PM
I'm against a private section. Sorry

Wtf? :laugh:

Drew.
03-05-2014, 10:51 PM
I'm against a private section. Sorry

This was only the real negative part of the ideas section but it doesn't look like something like this would be included anyway so my views have changed a bit, Wouldn't be against having a donations section and some kind of rewards in return for members.. coloured names etc.

Samm
03-05-2014, 10:52 PM
would there be another way to donate then Paypal

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 10:53 PM
There isn't going to be a private section

Good

I don't mind the other features so much but I think the whole thing is a bit silly. If people get that excited over a coloured name... Just have a donations page that allows people to contribute without pressure and with anonymity

Cherie
03-05-2014, 10:53 PM
The only problem would be that old people don't like change. Yes, I said it.

Now you have got that off your chest i hope you feel you can contribute

James
03-05-2014, 10:53 PM
I quite like the idea of premium features, yes. It would be a good way to help fund the site. There's a few things we could do - some other things also I can think of that haven't been suggested here.

It could happen at some stage. :)

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 10:54 PM
Now you have got that off your chest i hope you feel you can contribute

Contribute to what? :joker:

Shaun
03-05-2014, 10:54 PM
This was only the real negative part of the ideas section but it doesn't look like something like this would be included anyway so my views have changed a bit, Wouldn't be against having a donations section and some kind of rewards in return for members.. coloured names etc.

This (plus the word VIP, think 'subscriber' (think Josy suggested it a few pages back) would be better).

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 10:54 PM
Wtf? :laugh:

What? :laugh:

Kazanne
03-05-2014, 10:54 PM
The only problem would be that old people don't like change. Yes, I said it.

cant see what age has to do with it,a few young ones in here have said they are opposed from what I've seen

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 10:54 PM
Good

I don't mind the other features so much but I think the whole thing is a bit silly. If people get that excited over a coloured name... Just have a donations page that allows people to contribute without pressure and with anonymity

I'll have you know that the hour or so that james changed our names to rainbow on april fools day a year or so ago was an amazing and magical time that I shall never forget :hmph:

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 10:55 PM
This (plus the word VIP, think 'subscriber' (think Josy suggested it a few pages back) would be better).

Yeah, I think Subscriber or Contributor would be a better thing to call someone who donates.

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 10:55 PM
cant see what age has to do with it,a few young ones in here have said they are opposed from what I've seen

They are not overreacting though. :hugesmile:

Cherie
03-05-2014, 10:56 PM
Contribute to what? :joker:

:umm2:

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 10:56 PM
I'll have you know that the hour or so that james changed our names to rainbow on april fools day a year or so ago was an amazing and magical time that I shall never forget :hmph:

Yes but would it be so special if it was the norm?
The novelty would wear off after you've subscribed so you may as well donate as and when you like.

Writing off all premier features is a bit incendiary but I think without care it could alienate people

T*
03-05-2014, 10:56 PM
I smell nachos and Guacamole and now i want nachos and guacamole. /relevant

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 10:57 PM
I quite like the idea of premium features, yes. It would be a good way to help fund the site. There's a few things we could do - some other things also I can think of that haven't been suggested here.

It could happen at some stage. :)

Other things? :amazed:

Kazanne
03-05-2014, 10:57 PM
They are not overreacting though. :hugesmile:

Really? :joker::joker:

Kyle
03-05-2014, 10:57 PM
They are not overreacting though. :hugesmile:

Just insulting people instead though.

T*
03-05-2014, 10:57 PM
Why not call it TiBB Prime

Cherie
03-05-2014, 10:57 PM
Yes but would it be so special if it was the norm?
The novelty would wear off after you've subscribed so you may as well donate as and when you like.

Writing off all premier features is a bit incendiary but I think without care it could alienate people

Great post.

Headie
03-05-2014, 10:58 PM
How about this.

Add a donations button on to the forum. Once the required amount of money to run the forum is donated, the desired features get put in place on this forum. This can be an annual thing or it could all just happen at once.

I'm totally against the VIP perks etc cos I can see it now

"Not Hayden arguing with my VIP ass because he couldn't afford the perks *insert sassy gif here*"

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 10:58 PM
Why not call it TiBB Prime

TiBB +

Cherie
03-05-2014, 10:58 PM
Why not call it TiBB Prime

Could be sued by amazon

Kazanne
03-05-2014, 10:58 PM
The site I donate on just has the word Donater under the username,we get nothing more than none donators but we like the site so much the donations are not a problem,its a quick paypal button.

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 10:58 PM
Why not call it TiBB Prime

Because it's a silly name for it :laugh:

T*
03-05-2014, 10:59 PM
TiBB +

Omg yeah!

Smithy
03-05-2014, 10:59 PM
TiBB +

-was gonna suggest this-

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 10:59 PM
now because of the irrational illogical and baseless arguments given by people who oppose the feature the emphasis is on the donations aspect and not the premium features

I swear if this happens and all we get is a coloured username I will be pissed

Kyle
03-05-2014, 11:00 PM
How about this.

Add a donations button on to the forum. Once the required amount of money to run the forum is donated, the desired features get put in place on this forum. This can be an annual thing or it could all just happen at once.

I'm totally against the VIP perks etc cos I can see it now

"Not Hayden arguing with my VIP ass because he couldn't afford the perks *insert sassy gif here*"

You know what?

That's the best ********* thing I've ever read on here.

If we can reach a monthly/yearly quota the WHOLE forum gets the perks.

Cracking idea Hayden.

A team reward system.

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:00 PM
Why not call it TiBB Prime

You should find out how to create a forum and then just make one yourself :joker: You have all these ideas for the forum and most of them don't get put in place. You could test them on your site and then use it as 'evidence' to get them implemented on here.

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:00 PM
now because of the irrational illogical and baseless arguments given by people who oppose the feature the emphasis is on the donations aspect and not the premium features

I swear if this happens and all we get is a coloured username I will be pissed
I quite like the idea of premium features, yes. It would be a good way to help fund the site. There's a few things we could do - some other things also I can think of that haven't been suggested here.

It could happen at some stage. :)
:suspect:

Cherie
03-05-2014, 11:00 PM
How about this.

Add a donations button on to the forum. Once the required amount of money to run the forum is donated, the desired features get put in place on this forum. This can be an annual thing or it could all just happen at once.

I'm totally against the VIP perks etc cos I can see it now

"Not Hayden arguing with my VIP ass because he couldn't afford the perks *insert sassy gif here*"

......

Kazanne
03-05-2014, 11:01 PM
You should find out how to create a forum and then just make one yourself :joker: You have all these ideas for the forum and most of them don't get put in place. You could test them on your site and then use it as 'evidence' to get them implemented on here.

Good idea Hayden it's easy to do .

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:01 PM
How about this.

Add a donations button on to the forum. Once the required amount of money to run the forum is donated, the desired features get put in place on this forum. This can be an annual thing or it could all just happen at once.

I'm totally against the VIP perks etc cos I can see it now

"Not Hayden arguing with my VIP ass because he couldn't afford the perks *insert sassy gif here*"

you're not allowed to use sassy gifs after showing yourself to be this boring :idc:

Shaun
03-05-2014, 11:01 PM
James is going to enter all contributors into a version of the Hunger Games :worry:

InOne
03-05-2014, 11:01 PM
How about this.

Add a donations button on to the forum. Once the required amount of money to run the forum is donated, the desired features get put in place on this forum. This can be an annual thing or it could all just happen at once.

I'm totally against the VIP perks etc cos I can see it now

"Not Hayden arguing with my VIP ass because he couldn't afford the perks *insert sassy gif here*"

A bit like what Blue Peter used to do. We could even have a little bar to see how far along we are :pipe:

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:02 PM
You know what?

That's the best ********* thing I've ever read on here.

If we can reach a monthly/yearly quota the WHOLE forum gets the perks.

Cracking idea Hayden.

A team reward system.

Even worse than the pledged idea tbh

Cherie
03-05-2014, 11:02 PM
A bit like what Blue Peter used to do. We could even have a little bar to see how far along we are :pipe:

.......

T*
03-05-2014, 11:02 PM
-was gonna suggest this-

It's weird, when I was making my thread about it I remembered Tumblr+ and I thought of TiBB + Too :joker:

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:03 PM
Brilliant can't wait for this to be added in 2019

Shaun
03-05-2014, 11:03 PM
Surely the premium service should be called TiBBBOTS.

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
So basically, the problem is that some don't want to donate but they want the perks if other people get them? I find that view kinda selfish to be honest.

Kazanne
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
If Tibb needs money just place a paypal facility on it and see where it goes,no need to be rewarded for just keeping the site going.

Kyle
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
It would essentially be like a kick starter campaign.

Guys we would like you to donate so and so money and if you guys reach it we will give the forum x, y and Z. If you go even higher you can even have extra perks.

All anonymous. All implemented across the board to new members, old members.

Smithy
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
We should be able to buy ourselves out of bans

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
So basically, the problem is that some don't want to donate but they want the perks if other people get them? I find that view kinda selfish to be honest.

:worship:

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
Surely the premium service should be called TiBBBOTS.

:laugh: yes

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
-was gonna suggest this-

It's weird, when I was making my thread about it I remembered Tumblr+ and I thought of TiBB + Too :joker:

You bitches are too slow :idc:

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
We should be able to buy ourselves out of bans

:joker::joker:

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 11:05 PM
We should be able to buy ourselves out of bans

Omg like monopoly :flutter:

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:05 PM
you're not allowed to use sassy gifs after showing yourself to be this boring :idc:

don't hate on me cos your features weren't implemented 3 hours after you created this thread :idc:

Smithy
03-05-2014, 11:05 PM
You bitches are too slow :idc:

I was gonna suggest it on Page 9 but i thought someone might have suggested it

aint nobody got time to read through 9 pages

Cherie
03-05-2014, 11:06 PM
So basically, the problem is that some don't want to donate but they want the perks if other people get them? I find that view kinda selfish to be honest.

I call it thrifty :hmph:

T*
03-05-2014, 11:06 PM
So basically, the problem is that some don't want to donate but they want the perks if other people get them? I find that view kinda selfish to be honest.

This, Omfg, This.
I'm not going to spend money on people so annoyed with it being put in place that they want other people to buy it for them.

Jordan.
03-05-2014, 11:06 PM
If Tibb needs money just place a paypal facility on it and see where it goes,no need to be rewarded for just keeping the site going.

Tibb doesn't need money... It's not like the owner has put out a request. It's just an idea to help get some new features on here and help out at the same time :shrug:

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:07 PM
When will it most likely be added then

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:07 PM
So basically, the problem is that some don't want to donate but they want the perks if other people get them? I find that view kinda selfish to be honest.

I don't see why a donate page isn't set up for people to choose if they want to

T*
03-05-2014, 11:08 PM
I call it thrifty :hmph:

I call it hypocritical. You judge people for spending money for perks on the forum but you want people to buy them for you.... That makes SO much sense, Cherie :rolleyes:

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:08 PM
So basically, the problem is that some don't want to donate but they want the perks if other people get them? I find that view kinda selfish to be honest.

This whole thread seems like a ploy just to get perks tbh, people don;t care about donating to the forum, they just want to be VIPs.

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:08 PM
I call it hypocritical. You judge people for spending money for perks on the forum but you want people to buy them for you.... That makes SO much sense, Cherie :rolleyes:

Where did anyone say that, at all?

Stop looking for arguments.

Josy
03-05-2014, 11:09 PM
When will it most likely be added then

Sam it's only suggestions no one has said it's definitely going ahead just that it could happen in future.

Cherie
03-05-2014, 11:09 PM
I call it hypocritical. You judge people for spending money for perks on the forum but you want people to buy them for you.... That makes SO much sense, Cherie :rolleyes:

Rinsing.

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:10 PM
The whole ploy is elitist. I'd donate if a donation thing was set up, regardless of 'perks'.

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:11 PM
I think some people are taking things waaaay too seriously... all I did was post a suggestion and now I'm asking people to buy me privleges?

I think I'm gonna avoid this thread. If new features get implemented, good. I just hope that this forum isn't ruined social-wise because of it.

Kyle
03-05-2014, 11:11 PM
This whole thread seems like a ploy just to get perks tbh, people don;t care about donating to the forum, they just want to be VIPs.

Yep.

People are championing the team based system because it rewards the whole forum for anonymous donations. No elitism and no separate groups of users.

People don't want to donate money unless they have a big shiny badge on their name that says they do that.

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:13 PM
The whole ploy is elitist. I'd donate if a donation thing was set up, regardless of 'perks'.

This.

All I'm asking for is a donation button, I'd happily donate (anonymously, don't see the point of making it public so you can brag about how much of a good samaritan you are). Don't need any perks or features or VIP sections, especially if you only care about keeping the forum going.

Josy
03-05-2014, 11:13 PM
Quite a few people have said they would donate for nothing or even donate anonymously but there is nothing wrong with adding a few extra things for subscribers more so as a thanks than anything else.

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:14 PM
This whole thread seems like a ploy just to get perks tbh, people don;t care about donating to the forum, they just want to be VIPs.

yes, and? what's so bad about enhancing your forum experience?
do you think people would behave elitist for something they paid 2 POUNDS for? and would automatically change the way they treat someone once they subscribe?

T*
03-05-2014, 11:14 PM
Where did anyone say that, at all?

Stop looking for arguments.

I'm making a point, She agreed to a system that would mean people would pay for other people. Not looking for an argument. :rolleyes:

Josy
03-05-2014, 11:14 PM
This.

All I'm asking for is a donation button, I'd happily donate (anonymously, don't see the point of making it public so you can brag about how much of a good samaritan you are). Don't need any perks or features or VIP sections, especially if you only care about keeping the forum going.

Its not about just keeping the forum going though, not sure were people have got that idea from :shrug:

Jordan.
03-05-2014, 11:14 PM
Yep.

People are championing the team based system because it rewards the whole forum for anonymous donations. No elitism and no separate groups of users.

People don't want to donate money unless they have a big shiny badge on their name that says they do that.

um no, you're trying to make out people want to show off when in fact they just want some new features added to the forum, why is that a problem?

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:14 PM
The whole ploy is elitist. I'd donate if a donation thing was set up, regardless of 'perks'.

lol
it's a forum

Kyle
03-05-2014, 11:15 PM
I'd rather there was just an anonymous donation sidebar and that was that. No elite memberships, no elite perks

But It's not my choice at the end of the day and I won't lose any sleep whatever happens.

Firewire
03-05-2014, 11:16 PM
i would donate tbh people need to get over it

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 11:17 PM
I don't see a problem why people who donate will have access to certain extras?

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:17 PM
I am not here for a war.

Y'all enjoy your VIP perks.

This forum is like one of the best ones around, don't see why all of a sudden it needs enhancing to become 'bigger and better than ever before' (didn't you see what C5 did to BB when they tried to make it more current? :laugh:)

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:18 PM
lol
it's a forum

I know

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:18 PM
Since when did people want extra features? Why not put them in anyway?

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:18 PM
And I would/will donate REGARDLESS of whatever happens, I just don't want others to feel left out or me to feel like I'm a 'Very Important Person' just because I paid £1 extra than someone who just wants to use the forum for free for a bit of downtime from their lives.

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 11:19 PM
Here's a few suggestions I would find interesting, obviously all of them shouldn't be added but it's just what I am thinking.

Larger Avatars - 160x170 + 500kb
Contributor Award - Something like this http://puu.sh/8y2l7.png
A little userbar under the persons name like Jay posted.
A selection of readable name colours to choose from - Dark Blue, Purple, Red, Green, Rainbow
Larger Inbox - Allows 50 extra incoming/outgoing private messages
Ability to see who viewed your profile

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:19 PM
I think at the start of the thread I was like wtf

But I have changed my mind some of the features sound alright I guess

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:21 PM
Here's a few suggestions I would find interesting, obviously all of them shouldn't be added but it's just what I am thinking.

Larger Avatars - 160x170 + 500kb
Contributor Award - Something like this http://puu.sh/8y2l7.png
A little userbar under the persons name like Jay posted.
A selection of readable name colours to choose from - Dark Blue, Purple, Red, Green, Rainbow
Larger Inbox - Allows 50 extra incoming/outgoing private messages
Ability to see who viewed your profile

All of this I agree with, but not the who viewed your profile I find that a bit weird

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:21 PM
Some people just want VIP status, fair enough and good luck.
Just put the extra features that are apparently in such popular demand and allow people to donate if they want to anonymously.

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:22 PM
Here's a few suggestions I would find interesting, obviously all of them shouldn't be added but it's just what I am thinking.

Larger Avatars - 160x170 + 500kb
Contributor Award - Something like this http://puu.sh/8y2l7.png
A little userbar under the persons name like Jay posted.
A selection of readable name colours to choose from - Dark Blue, Purple, Red, Green, Rainbow
Larger Inbox - Allows 50 extra incoming/outgoing private messages
Ability to see who viewed your profile

This is perfectly fine. No need for 'VIP sections' or special powers to view what people are doing on invisible mode.

I'd be well up for donations being brought in if this was the 'reward' for donating (although I don't see why a reward is necessary)

Jordan.
03-05-2014, 11:22 PM
Here's a few suggestions I would find interesting, obviously all of them shouldn't be added but it's just what I am thinking.

Larger Avatars - 160x170 + 500kb
Contributor Award - Something like this http://puu.sh/8y2l7.png
A little userbar under the persons name like Jay posted.
A selection of readable name colours to choose from - Dark Blue, Purple, Red, Green, Rainbow
Larger Inbox - Allows 50 extra incoming/outgoing private messages
Ability to see who viewed your profile

probably too much, we can't have people feeling insecure and left out http://i.imgur.com/QWY2By2.gif

no but really this would be fine

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:23 PM
Bigger inbox space :love:

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:24 PM
And I would/will donate REGARDLESS of whatever happens, I just don't want others to feel left out or me to feel like I'm a 'Very Important Person' just because I paid £1 extra than someone who just wants to use the forum for free for a bit of downtime from their lives.

You will not have a vip or whatever tag forced on you. You would just be able to use the 'premium features' (if we can even cal a coloured name or whatever that) if you chose to. People could still donate anonymously if they preferred

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:25 PM
its a bit like having a big car to make up for having a small penis:joker:

:umm2:

Smithy
03-05-2014, 11:25 PM
If people don't want to donate why do they care if other people do even if people do get some perks :facepalm:

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 11:26 PM
If people don't want to donate why do they care if other people do even if people do get some perks :facepalm:

Because they are selfish. http://puu.sh/8wkvP

Glenn.
03-05-2014, 11:26 PM
People wanting something for nothing :fist:

Z
03-05-2014, 11:26 PM
:shrug: I'd donate if there was a feature installed on the forum for us to do so in order to maintain running costs. This is my online home. I wouldn't be doing it for special credit or for some status symbol type thing, I'd do it because I want to continue posting here and the only reason I am able to continue posting here is because Mark sees fit to continue paying for it out of his own pocket with no thanks or contribution from any of us, he barely even posts here anymore.

Amy Jade
03-05-2014, 11:27 PM
Sure, I don't see why not if people are willing to pay but surely the benefits would have to be better to encourage people to want to invest actual money, I mean for a few quid more you could have netflix or lovefilm to entertain yourself.

Then again what does my opinion matter I would never pay.

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:28 PM
Here's a few suggestions I would find interesting, obviously all of them shouldn't be added but it's just what I am thinking.

Larger Avatars - 160x170 + 500kb
Contributor Award - Something like this http://puu.sh/8y2l7.png
A little userbar under the persons name like Jay posted.
A selection of readable name colours to choose from - Dark Blue, Purple, Red, Green, Rainbow
Larger Inbox - Allows 50 extra incoming/outgoing private messages
Ability to see who viewed your profile

That award is fantastic :D

Jessica.
03-05-2014, 11:29 PM
Piggies :love:

T*
03-05-2014, 11:30 PM
Did you make that, Jess? :love:

Marsh.
03-05-2014, 11:31 PM
15 pages? Sweet Jesus.

Marsh.
03-05-2014, 11:31 PM
A bigger avatar would stretch the page. :nono:

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:32 PM
This is perfectly fine. No need for 'VIP sections' or special powers to view what people are doing on invisible mode.

I'd be well up for donations being brought in if this was the 'reward' for donating (although I don't see why a reward is necessary)

Yeah, the OP was just random suggestions as far as I am aware. Never has a separate subforum/section been a realistic option for this really :p

The invisible mode thing too..it a bit intrusive.

I'm sure we could come up with some stuff that the majority would be happy with. There will always be a couple who moan no matter what

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:34 PM
I'm happy with this now anyway :love:

Glad some change could be made on here

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:35 PM
:shrug: I'd donate if there was a feature installed on the forum for us to do so in order to maintain running costs. This is my online home. I wouldn't be doing it for special credit or for some status symbol type thing, I'd do it because I want to continue posting here and the only reason I am able to continue posting here is because Mark sees fit to continue paying for it out of his own pocket with no thanks or contribution from any of us, he barely even posts here anymore.

:worship:

This whole post is just perfection, sums up everything and represents all views. Really don't see what the arguments are all about.

T*
03-05-2014, 11:37 PM
How about like a exclusive list of emoticons or something.
A special area only available to Donation users could be good and other websites/forum do that. It'd have to be moderated.

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:37 PM
I'm happy with this now anyway :love:

Glad some change could be made on here

lol nothing is finalised, this is just suggestions.

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:38 PM
How about like a exclusive list of emoticons or something.
A special area only available to Donation users could be good and other websites/forum do that. It'd have to be moderated.

I think your going a bit OTT now

T*
03-05-2014, 11:38 PM
I think your going a bit OTT now

How.

T*
03-05-2014, 11:39 PM
It could be called the Suite

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:39 PM
How about like a exclusive list of emoticons or something.
A special area only available to Donation users could be good and other websites/forum do that. It'd have to be moderated.

Maybe we could organise free trips to Center Parcs via chartered hot air balloons :D

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:39 PM
lol nothing is finalised, this is just suggestions.

I know that's why I put could :laugh: , read it hoe

T*
03-05-2014, 11:39 PM
That, or an exclusive chat thread.

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:40 PM
IMO, flat out no to a separate section

Drew.
03-05-2014, 11:40 PM
That, or an exclusive chat thread.

To chat about what exactly?

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:40 PM
IMO, flat out no to a separate section

Same

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:40 PM
NO to exclusive sections, VIP areas etc.

It's just encouraging elitism and also creates divisions between non VIP members since all the VIPs will be utilising their VIP area whilst the others can't even join in with their discussions.

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:41 PM
Something we agree on.

Firewire
03-05-2014, 11:41 PM
Not Tom wanting exclusive sections but denying elitism and cliques being formed

T*
03-05-2014, 11:42 PM
Wait so people over 18 can have a section but vip's can't...
I mean like a social group or something

Vicky.
03-05-2014, 11:42 PM
Oh social groups..do what you want with them. Its what they are there for :p

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:43 PM
Wait so people over 18 can have a section but vip's can't...
I mean like a social group or something

Just make one now, call it 'VIPs' and invite people who you want to.

Sorted.

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:44 PM
Some people are so eager to be VIPs

I'll make sure to roll out the red carpet if it happens

T*
03-05-2014, 11:44 PM
VIP's could have a feature where they blacklist posts with a certain word or tag in it and have optional notifications if they're quoted

Smithy
03-05-2014, 11:45 PM
Noone posts in social groups and if there was a separate place for vip members it'd be dead anyway, because it'd be range of people that aren't necessarily friends on here, so would have nothing to talk about anyway :shrug:

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:46 PM
Wait so people over 18 can have a section but vip's can't...
I mean like a social group or something

Well I guess there not talking about anything at all since there are mods in there and social groups aren't that active

imo your taking this too serious I'm happy with all the things that jess posted and glad that change might happen

Kizzy
03-05-2014, 11:46 PM
Look I'm the closest you're going to get to a VIP on here....

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03-05-2014, 11:47 PM
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maybe increase avatar sizes too

T*
03-05-2014, 11:47 PM
Well I guess there not talking about anything at all since there are mods in there and social groups aren't that active

imo your taking this too serious I'm happy with all the things that jess posted and glad that change might happen

How am I taking it too seriously by suggesting things to get people intrigued and get them to come out with ideas.

Firewire
03-05-2014, 11:48 PM
VIP's could have a feature where they blacklist posts with a certain word or tag in it and have optional notifications if they're quoted

notifications should be for all members tbh

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maybe increase avatar sizes too
This sounds much more realistic.

There are not going to be any major changes for contributors, such as separate sections or 'quote finders' or stuff like that. Just little perks.

If this happens.

Samm
03-05-2014, 11:48 PM
VIP's could have a feature where they blacklist posts with a certain word or tag in it and have optional notifications if they're quoted

Why should that be VIP (I will most likely donate) but the forum has been wanting that for a long time why can't the all of the forum have notifications when quoted :unsure:

Kazanne
03-05-2014, 11:49 PM
:shrug: I'd donate if there was a feature installed on the forum for us to do so in order to maintain running costs. This is my online home. I wouldn't be doing it for special credit or for some status symbol type thing, I'd do it because I want to continue posting here and the only reason I am able to continue posting here is because Mark sees fit to continue paying for it out of his own pocket with no thanks or contribution from any of us, he barely even posts here anymore.

100 % agree with this,great post

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:49 PM
How am I taking it too seriously by suggesting things to get people intrigued and get them to come out with ideas.

The ideas previously suggested such as coloured names, larger avatars were fine and wouldn't cause any social unrest or drama on here, but ones you're suggesting are just encouraging division and elitism.

jackc1806
03-05-2014, 11:51 PM
Night everyone :)

Expecting to wake up to 30 Odd pages :p

Firewire
03-05-2014, 11:51 PM
do people even care for coloured names it sounds like such a joke to me i understand that mods/admin have coloured names but it's to make them known to the forum

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:52 PM
The word 'perks' is irritating me now, think it's time I headed off to bed :laugh:

Why am I arguing about some little features thing on a forum at 1am in the morning? :joker:

T*
03-05-2014, 11:52 PM
bye

Headie
03-05-2014, 11:54 PM
bye

bye Tom :xyxwave:

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:55 PM
Some people are so eager to be VIPs

I'll make sure to roll out the red carpet if it happens

so what? why does it bother you so much?

T*
03-05-2014, 11:56 PM
Probably out this thread, can't make suggestions without someone biting my arm off. Ridiculous.

T*
03-05-2014, 11:57 PM
so what? why does it bother you so much?

I have no idea why it's bothering people so much.

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:58 PM
Probably out this thread, can't make suggestions without someone biting my arm off. Ridiculous.

it's funny how the people who want this to happen are being civil and the ones complaining it'd divide the forum are doing most of the patronising

Me. I Am Salman
03-05-2014, 11:58 PM
Btw that wasn't aimed at Hayden I just mean in general.

Jordan.
04-05-2014, 12:01 AM
I literally just want something like this, a banner and larger avi size

http://i.imgur.com/xYbOoyS.png

people making such a big deal out of that :unsure:

Headie
04-05-2014, 12:01 AM
Btw that wasn't aimed at Hayden I just mean in general.

:suspect:

I'm the only one who's actually FOR the idea of perks being added when you donate, but I'm just looking for the best way to implement it. Suggesting that people should get their own section just because they paid £1 more than the next person is ridiculous tbh, it would definitely cause divisions.

And Salman, I agree with most of your points in here tbh, just think some features are not necessary since it will cause a divide.

T*
04-05-2014, 12:02 AM
it's funny how the people who want this to happen are being civil and the ones complaining it'd divide the forum are doing most of the patronising

Exactly this. I've been arguing with people to make this idea into a reality but I got instructions on how to spend my money. EURGH.

T*
04-05-2014, 12:02 AM
:suspect:

I'm the only one who's actually FOR the idea of perks being added when you donate, but I'm just looking for the best way to implement it. Suggesting that people should get their own section just because they paid £1 more than the next person is ridiculous tbh, it would definitely cause divisions.

And Salman, I agree with most of your points in here tbh, just think some features are not necessary since it will cause a divide.

Thought you were in bed?

Marsh.
04-05-2014, 12:02 AM
Longer avatars/extra banners would be awful IMO.

Then whenever you post one small sentence it's still this long block on the page.

Especially when they're pictures of that *****.

Headie
04-05-2014, 12:03 AM
Exactly this. I've been arguing with people to make this idea into a reality but I got instructions on how to spend my money. EURGH.

This isn't about you or your arguments or whatever, this is about everyone coming together to make a decision that can all be agreed upon so everyone on this forum is happy with the changes.

If we all stop the bickering and feuding, I have no doubt that we could come to a conclusion that we all agreed benefits us all.

Kazanne
04-05-2014, 12:04 AM
The word 'perks' is irritating me now, think it's time I headed off to bed :laugh:

Why am I arguing about some little features thing on a forum at 1am in the morning? :joker:

:joker:I did the same too,can't be arsed anymore.

Samm
04-05-2014, 12:04 AM
I literally just want something like this, a banner and larger avi size

http://i.imgur.com/xYbOoyS.png

people making such a big deal out of that :unsure:

Cher's face looks like it's been stretched :unsure:

But I love that TiBB banner <3

Jordan.
04-05-2014, 12:04 AM
Longer avatars/extra banners would be awful IMO.

Then whenever you post one small sentence it's still this long block on the page.

Especially when they're pictures of that *****.

You and your low quality avis will have to deal

Headie
04-05-2014, 12:05 AM
Thought you were in bed?

See, this post proves exactly my point that you are derailing the topic of discussion to look for arguments over things that have no relevance to the debate.

Kizzy
04-05-2014, 12:06 AM
I might pay if I can have 'nosey privileges' I want to know who's banned, who by, how long for and what for.
And I want a say in if they're allowed back if it's indefinite.

Samm
04-05-2014, 12:07 AM
Probably out this thread, can't make suggestions without someone biting my arm off. Ridiculous.

I'm just answering back, and your suggestion aren't that good :unsure:

Marsh.
04-05-2014, 12:08 AM
You and your low quality avis will have to deal

:fist: I'll just buy the bloody site and ban you.

I might pay if I can have 'nosey privileges' I want to know who's banned, who by, how long for and what for.
And I want a say in if they're allowed back if it's indefinite.

:joker: I'll pay to be able to choose who can and can't make decisions on bans.

T*
04-05-2014, 12:08 AM
See, this post proves exactly my point that you are derailing the topic of discussion to look for arguments over things that have no relevance to the debate.

No, it means that I've literally had enough of you for tonight.

Marsh.
04-05-2014, 12:09 AM
No, it means that I've literally had enough of you for tonight.

:nono: Stop being argumentative.

Smithy
04-05-2014, 12:10 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Dy6PnQE.jpg

>>

AnnieK
04-05-2014, 12:10 AM
Well, this thread has been far more entertaining than my night tonight....:laugh:

T*
04-05-2014, 12:10 AM
Marsh ,I'm not ffs

Jordan.
04-05-2014, 12:11 AM
no smithers

Headie
04-05-2014, 12:12 AM
No, it means that I've literally had enough of you for tonight.

Go to bed then?

All I'm doing is contributing my views to the discussion, and just because they oppose yours you decide you've had enough of me. And it still means you're derailing the discussion, whether you've had enough of me or not.

Back to the discussion, I think most of the features proposed should be added, except the ones that literally divide forum members by giving VIPs their own sections or giving them the 'more important' title than others.

Samm
04-05-2014, 12:12 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Dy6PnQE.jpg

>>

The banner >>>>

If that was there I would of though it would of been like a Red Cross thing and the member was sick or something like that

Smithy
04-05-2014, 12:12 AM
no smithers

the cross is too big ************

Marsh.
04-05-2014, 12:13 AM
Marsh ,I'm not ffs

Then chill out. People are allowed an opinion and allowed to disagree with you without you getting all pissy.

Headie
04-05-2014, 12:14 AM
Well, this thread has been far more entertaining than my night tonight....:laugh:

LOL ikr? I'm definitely going to bed now :joker:

Kazanne
04-05-2014, 12:15 AM
LOL ikr? I'm definitely going to bed now :joker:

Night Hayden:hugesmile:

T*
04-05-2014, 12:15 AM
Go to bed then?

All I'm doing is contributing my views to the discussion, and just because they oppose yours you decide you've had enough of me. And it still means you're derailing the discussion, whether you've had enough of me or not.

Back to the discussion, I think most of the features proposed should be added, except the ones that literally divide forum members by giving VIPs their own sections or giving them the 'more important' title than others.

I'll PM you in the morning.

Headie
04-05-2014, 12:16 AM
I'll PM you in the morning.

Ok :hug:

Sorry if I've come down a little hard on you... I think we could all do with a good nights rest tonight.

And night Kazanne :love:

Samm
04-05-2014, 12:17 AM
I was being stupid at the start of this tbh I'm complete happy now that there could be change ,knowing Tibb this will be added in 2018http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/moorangu.png

Vicky.
04-05-2014, 12:23 AM
What the hell is with that dying monkey? People are obsessed.

I have no idea, I actually find the image quite sad (as in vaguely upsetting, not pathetic...though I find its overuse pathetic), even when its morphed onto random celebs

Shaun
04-05-2014, 02:01 AM
Tom, I think I speak for the rest of the forum when I say: chill the **** out. Every god damn thread you're throwing tantrums lately. Just think before you post and stop reacting to every alternative standpoint as if they're belittling you or trying to ruin the forum.

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This I like. (&Jess' piggy bank icon, although a touch smaller). Oh and the userbars, I liked the examples Josy posted more just because they look a bit professional.

reece(:
04-05-2014, 03:36 AM
The amount of reaching in here, countless forums have these features in place and there is absolutely no way that separation occurs because of it, people thinking so must be insecure over their place on the forum or something?

The idea is both beneficial to the forum itself and the user who donates, anyone suggesting elitism must look back at post counts and see no one really gives a **** what their "number" is

Pete.
04-05-2014, 08:03 AM
This thread

http://i.minus.com/i4B4pLhJYtOaj.gif

For me I'm against the whole VIP vibe as divisions will be created for sure and superiority will be magnified

But if people wish to donate to a forum then go for it

Jesus.
04-05-2014, 08:25 AM
I don't believe that the owner is funding this site out of his own pocket year on year. For the minimal amount of interest he shows in it, it doesn't make sense that he would just keep throwing money down the drain to keep it running. He'll be making at least a majority of his money back somewhere along the line.

I won't pay extra, but if people want to pay for some extra features then there's no reason to have a problem with that, I suppose.

You'll also have the potential conflict of interest when it comes to giving long bans to paying members, which could cause more hassle than it's worth. The site is either full of "which fm do you love most" in a variety of different disguises, or "which flawless pop bitch is going to slay/shade another fierce pop bitch with a black person picture", so charge away, but the fundamental issue here, as always, is going to be attracting and keeping new members.

Kyle
04-05-2014, 08:33 AM
it's funny how the people who want this to happen are being civil and the ones complaining it'd divide the forum are doing most of the patronising

That has got to be one of the most ironic posts on the forum.

Have a look at Tom's, Jessica's and your own posts on this thread before you claim 'civility'.

thesheriff443
04-05-2014, 09:25 AM
I don't believe that the owner is funding this site out of his own pocket year on year. For the minimal amount of interest he shows in it, it doesn't make sense that he would just keep throwing money down the drain to keep it running. He'll be making at least a majority of his money back somewhere along the line.

I won't pay extra, but if people want to pay for some extra features then there's no reason to have a problem with that, I suppose.

You'll also have the potential conflict of interest when it comes to giving long bans to paying members, which could cause more hassle than it's worth. The site is either full of "which fm do you love most" in a variety of different disguises, or "which flawless pop bitch is going to slay/shade another fierce pop bitch with a black person picture", so charge away, but the fundamental issue here, as always, is going to be attracting and keeping new members.

great post!

InOne
04-05-2014, 09:42 AM
I don't believe that the owner is funding this site out of his own pocket year on year. For the minimal amount of interest he shows in it, it doesn't make sense that he would just keep throwing money down the drain to keep it running. He'll be making at least a majority of his money back somewhere along the line.

I won't pay extra, but if people want to pay for some extra features then there's no reason to have a problem with that, I suppose.

You'll also have the potential conflict of interest when it comes to giving long bans to paying members, which could cause more hassle than it's worth. The site is either full of "which fm do you love most" in a variety of different disguises, or "which flawless pop bitch is going to slay/shade another fierce pop bitch with a black person picture", so charge away, but the fundamental issue here, as always, is going to be attracting and keeping new members.

I agree. Maybe some members think they'll be untouchable if they starting 'contributing' :suspect:

Kazanne
04-05-2014, 10:26 AM
I don't believe that the owner is funding this site out of his own pocket year on year. For the minimal amount of interest he shows in it, it doesn't make sense that he would just keep throwing money down the drain to keep it running. He'll be making at least a majority of his money back somewhere along the line.

I won't pay extra, but if people want to pay for some extra features then there's no reason to have a problem with that, I suppose.

You'll also have the potential conflict of interest when it comes to giving long bans to paying members, which could cause more hassle than it's worth. The site is either full of "which fm do you love most" in a variety of different disguises, or "which flawless pop bitch is going to slay/shade another fierce pop bitch with a black person picture", so charge away, but the fundamental issue here, as always, is going to be attracting and keeping new members.

Bravo Jesus,well said, totally agree(Who'de have thunk it:hugesmile:)

Kyle
04-05-2014, 10:50 AM
I think the point Jesus made should be addressed a little more.

Can we as a forum be assured that if ever a dispute arises between a 'V.I.P' and a 'regular member' that there will be no vested interest in trying to keep the paying members sated at the expense of the rest?


Like I said if you decide to implement the system I won't lost any sleep over it I am just one of many and I will still use the forum but I will voice concerns that funnily enough a fair few other members seem to share.

Glenn.
04-05-2014, 11:01 AM
I think the point Jesus made should be addressed a little more.

Can we as a forum be assured that if ever a dispute arises between a 'V.I.P' and a 'regular member' that there will be no vested interest in trying to keep the paying members sated at the expense of the rest?


Like I said if you decide to implement the system I won't lost any sleep over it I am just one of many and I will still use the forum but I will voice concerns that funnily enough a fair few other members seem to share.

I don't see how that would happen. Everyone knows the rules. If you break them continuously then you get banned. People get warnings before a ban is put in place. If you're stupid enough to ignore the warnings then it's your own doing.

Jesus.
04-05-2014, 11:48 AM
I think the point Jesus made should be addressed a little more.

Can we as a forum be assured that if ever a dispute arises between a 'V.I.P' and a 'regular member' that there will be no vested interest in trying to keep the paying members sated at the expense of the rest?


Like I said if you decide to implement the system I won't lost any sleep over it I am just one of many and I will still use the forum but I will voice concerns that funnily enough a fair few other members seem to share.

To be clear, I don't think it's plausible that any dispute involving a vip vs non-paying would be decided by the benjamins.

Gstar
04-05-2014, 12:06 PM
I voted yes, it will be like habbo hotel all over again :love:

Black Dagger
04-05-2014, 12:07 PM
Do I really wish to read 19 pages of this....

Somebody give me a short brief pls xo

Cherie
04-05-2014, 12:15 PM
Do I really wish to read 19 pages of this....

Somebody give me a short brief pls xo

Vote on the Poll.

Do you wish to pay a monthly fee of perhaps 2.00, to be a Premium member and have some (at the moment undefined) extras, perhaps a bigger Avatar, a coloured forum name or similar.

Kizzy
04-05-2014, 12:30 PM
It would create an 'us and them' atmosphere I think, just look at how post count is used as a gauge of how important a member you are? If you paid too that would be magnified I think.

Crimson Dynamo
04-05-2014, 12:33 PM
vip?

what a horrible idea

Josy
04-05-2014, 12:44 PM
I don't believe that the owner is funding this site out of his own pocket year on year. For the minimal amount of interest he shows in it, it doesn't make sense that he would just keep throwing money down the drain to keep it running. He'll be making at least a majority of his money back somewhere along the line.
I won't pay extra, but if people want to pay for some extra features then there's no reason to have a problem with that, I suppose.

You'll also have the potential conflict of interest when it comes to giving long bans to paying members, which could cause more hassle than it's worth. The site is either full of "which fm do you love most" in a variety of different disguises, or "which flawless pop bitch is going to slay/shade another fierce pop bitch with a black person picture", so charge away, but the fundamental issue here, as always, is going to be attracting and keeping new members.

There was google advertising on the forum that I guess helped a little towards costs, that's not been active for quite a while now and that's the only monetary source that's been on the forum, you don't have to believe it but it's true.


Also regarding the issues with bannings/warning etc, members that made a donation wouldn't be treated any differently from someone that hadn't, if someone breaks a forum rule then they get dealt with.. not sure why anyone would think paying a a few pence donation would change that, donations are optional, no one forces people to pay them.

Kyle
04-05-2014, 12:44 PM
I don't see how that would happen. Everyone knows the rules. If you break them continuously then you get banned. People get warnings before a ban is put in place. If you're stupid enough to ignore the warnings then it's your own doing.

Infractions are private. If you see a paid up member break the rules nobody will be any the wiser if they have been punished or not unless they are outright banned or they get taken over the limit. It would be in the interest of the forum to do what they can to make sure they can keep people that pay on board unless they have no choice.

And I've gotten away with breaking the rules on occasion. I called someone a clown a few months back on a thread and never even got a warning never mind a ban. I would like to think that the reason was nobody saw it but it was a pretty active thread. I've said less than that to some of the more 'popular' members of the forum and being infracted within mere minutes in the past.

Kyle
04-05-2014, 12:45 PM
And don't you dare infract me for admitting I called someone a clown Josy I'm warning you! :fist:

Josy
04-05-2014, 12:48 PM
*infracts Kyle*

Nah that probably went un noticed tbh, we don't see everything all the time.

Kyle
04-05-2014, 12:56 PM
I'm gonna bow out of this debate now but it's been fun I've enjoyed it.

Good to see it still open after 19 pages too with an almost 50/50 split on the poll aswell.

Oh and Hi Sheriff. :xyxwave:

Samm
04-05-2014, 12:59 PM
It's just people trying to make up stuff like if you donate you don't get banned they are only saying that so they want to try and stop it to be added

It's just stupid

Kyle
04-05-2014, 01:11 PM
It's just people trying to make up stuff like if you donate you don't get banned they are only saying that so they want to try and stop it to be added

It's just stupid

What a strange interpretation of people's posts. :huh:

Kazanne
04-05-2014, 01:21 PM
What a strange interpretation of people's posts. :huh:

Off to the 'TOWER' with you :devil:

reece(:
04-05-2014, 01:55 PM
It would create an 'us and them' atmosphere I think, just look at how post count is used as a gauge of how important a member you are? If you paid too that would be magnified I think.

But this isn't true at all...

Samm
04-05-2014, 01:57 PM
But this isn't true at all...

Agree totally

not to bring in names but has anybody said anything to Jay or Who is She who joined this week

reece(:
04-05-2014, 01:58 PM
This thread

http://i.minus.com/i4B4pLhJYtOaj.gif

For me I'm against the whole VIP vibe as divisions will be created for sure and superiority will be magnified

But if people wish to donate to a forum then go for it

Unless you're petty I don't see this occuring at all...

On what other forum does divides occur from donators getting a few perks, it's just ridiculous to even assume so. I've said again and again countless forums have these donator options and in no way it brings up any type of divide, so for some to suggest this is such a big reach.

reece(:
04-05-2014, 01:59 PM
Agree totally

not to bring in names but has anybody said anything to Jay or Who is She who joined this week
Not at all, they've fit in straight away. The grasping at straws has begun.

RichardG
04-05-2014, 02:09 PM
I've not read through the whole thread so don't know what else has been suggested, but my view is that it's fine so long as the benefits of being a "VIP" aren't excessive. A separate private forum could potentially cause divisions and I think that since the main forum can already be a little slow during off season, to give people the opportunity to post even less on the main forum would not be good. However, basic benefits such as a name tag, coloured name, award etc is fine. I fail to understand how that could cause any kind of divisions. If people get worked up over others having a coloured name then that's really silly.

Though I would suggest that we use a different name. Maybe it's just me but I find "VIP" to be really cringey. :laugh:

Jesus.
04-05-2014, 02:10 PM
There was google advertising on the forum that I guess helped a little towards costs, that's not been active for quite a while now and that's the only monetary source that's been on the forum, you don't have to believe it but it's true.


Also regarding the issues with bannings/warning etc, members that made a donation wouldn't be treated any differently from someone that hadn't, if someone breaks a forum rule then they get dealt with.. not sure why anyone would think paying a a few pence donation would change that, donations are optional, no one forces people to pay them.

The fact that the site is actively for sale probably acts as a motivating factor to keep it going.

I also wasn't insinuating that you would treat people differently because they were paying members, as I clarified in a later post. My point was, that if you have some of the younger members that pay, but then end up with 6 month bans, then you could have parents on your case and all sorts.

Josy
04-05-2014, 02:13 PM
The fact that the site is actively for sale probably acts as a motivating factor to keep it going.

I also wasn't insinuating that you would treat people differently because they were paying members, as I clarified in a later post. My point was, that if you have some of the younger members that pay, but then end up with 6 month bans, then you could have parents on your case and all sorts.

Oh I know, that second part of my post wasn't aimed at you specifically but answering all that had posted those concerns.

Maybe there would be some kind of terms wrote up that would have to be agreed to but like mentioned a few times in the thread everyone is just posting opinions and suggestions atm and nothing is set in stone about a premium feature going ahead.

Jordan.
04-05-2014, 02:15 PM
I don't even want this anymore, tibb can stay dusty, slow and in decline

http://i.minus.com/i4B4pLhJYtOaj.gif

Headie
04-05-2014, 02:46 PM
Unless you're petty I don't see this occuring at all...

On what other forum does divides occur from donators getting a few perks, it's just ridiculous to even assume so. I've said again and again countless forums have these donator options and in no way it brings up any type of divide, so for some to suggest this is such a big reach.

No one is saying divisions will be created because of a few perks... don't think most people could care any less about coloured names or whatever.

But being titled a 'VIP' and getting a whole 'Private VIP Section' for yourselves is literally dividing the forum. You can't get any more literal in terms of dividing the forum up.

Marsh.
04-05-2014, 02:47 PM
Does Mark even need donators, is it something he wants to implement?

Edit - Nevermind. My question was answered. :laugh:

reece(:
04-05-2014, 03:03 PM
No one is saying divisions will be created because of a few perks... don't think most people could care any less about coloured names or whatever.

But being titled a 'VIP' and getting a whole 'Private VIP Section' for yourselves is literally dividing the forum. You can't get any more literal in terms of dividing the forum up.
Idk why you're flogging that dead horse then because it has been clearly stated there will be no private section nor will it be called VIP

T*
04-05-2014, 03:11 PM
Idk why you're flogging that dead horse then because it has been clearly stated there will be no private section nor will it be called VIP

This, it was just an idea and we're getting accused of making drama whilst they're bringing it up again.

Crimson Dynamo
04-05-2014, 03:14 PM
Can you imagine having to get past 2 big bouncers each day just to post some half-assed comment about the latest meat pie deal at AsdaWalmart HD?

NO

Kate!
04-05-2014, 03:16 PM
Agree totally

not to bring in names but has anybody said anything to Jay or Who is She who joined this week

Well yes, plenty of us have talked to them both.

Samm
04-05-2014, 03:17 PM
they're

I don't know why you said they're Hayden is agreeing with the donate thing

Kazanne
04-05-2014, 03:17 PM
Seriously though,there are loads of free message boards out there that have all the facilties people want + more,all they have on them is ads which are not intrusive,Couldn't TIBB be swapped over to one of them,most of the things people want like coloured names etc are all there ready there to use,just a suggestion.

Samm
04-05-2014, 03:19 PM
oops when I was talking about Jay and Who is she I was saying it as a positive meaning that lots of people have been talking to them, no point editing now since it's been quoted 2 times

reece(:
04-05-2014, 03:20 PM
Well yes, plenty of us have talked to them both.
I think he means has anyone said anything insulting based on them having low post counts as people seem to be suggesting

Headie
04-05-2014, 03:44 PM
Idk why you're flogging that dead horse then because it has been clearly stated there will be no private section nor will it be called VIP

This, it was just an idea and we're getting accused of making drama whilst they're bringing it up again.

Are you actually serious Tom, you kept bringing i up constantly and then start playing the victim when I gave an opposing view to yours. Grow up seriously.

And Reece, I'm not 'flogging a dead horse' at all, private sections kept being brought up and everytime someone said no people just started accusing them of being 'boring' or persisting by saying it wouldn't cause division, even though it clearly would.

reece(:
04-05-2014, 03:45 PM
The mods and admin both said resounding no's to the private section so that should not be debated anymore because it's utter pointlessness.

Headie
04-05-2014, 03:46 PM
I don't know why you said they're Hayden is agreeing with the donate thing

Exactly. I'm hugely in favour of bringing donations on to the site, I just don't want people being classed as more 'important' than other people just because they pay £1 extra than someone else. Perks are fine, don't see why we can't have them if we donate. But VIP sections and being called 'VIPs' are a big no no IMO.

Headie
04-05-2014, 03:46 PM
The mods and admin both said resounding no's to the private section so that should not be debated anymore because it's utter pointlessness.

Exactly, but even after they said that people still came with their 'ideas' of all these exclusive areas for VIPs only.

reece(:
04-05-2014, 04:16 PM
Exactly, but even after they said that people still came with their 'ideas' of all these exclusive areas for VIPs only.
Well it's not going to happen so there's no point for either side to go on about it and since all the "elitism" theories are stemming from that then that's pointless to discuss further also.

Marsh.
04-05-2014, 04:19 PM
The fact that there's drama/division at just the discussion of a separate section shows that a separate section would've caused drama. So this thread has already proven it IMO.

Josy
04-05-2014, 05:05 PM
Seriously though,there are loads of free message boards out there that have all the facilties people want + more,all they have on them is ads which are not intrusive,Couldn't TIBB be swapped over to one of them,most of the things people want like coloured names etc are all there ready there to use,just a suggestion.

This forum is massive, it has over 10 years of content and member databases so no it couldn't be transferred over to one of those crappy free forums because the servers couldn't handle it for a start not to mention the amount of add ons and customisations that this forum has.

That said some people clearly aren't reading posts, no one said anything about the site needing money, just that if something like this suggestion was implemented then it could benefit from donations that would take place of the ad revenue that the forum used to have.

There also WOULD NOT be any private or seperate forums or sections.

Me. I Am Salman
04-05-2014, 05:06 PM
why are people going on about private sections IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION

Firewire
04-05-2014, 05:20 PM
I'm all for a TiBB VIP and if people are against it then don't sign up/donate, simple.

Josy
04-05-2014, 07:42 PM
Jeez you would think certain people that disagree with this suggestion were deliberately trying to get the thread closed.

Any more off topic posts and that includes random gifs that add nothing to this discussion will be deleted and the poster infracted, I have posted enough warnings.

Shaun
04-05-2014, 07:58 PM
why are people going on about private sections IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION

I know, but it's still in the OP and probably why there are so many 'no's :laugh: many (like myself and Drew) have said we're in favour of the idea without it (and the word VIP) and therefore the real "no" vote is much smaller.

For all of these complaints that there are too many naysayers there are just as many drama queens complaining that nothing ever gets implemented on this forum, or that it's always dead, and is never going to change. The whole point of discussion and debate on this topic is to work towards what's best for the forum.

Headie
04-05-2014, 08:15 PM
I know, but it's still in the OP and probably why there are so many 'no's :laugh: many (like myself and Drew) have said we're in favour of the idea without it (and the word VIP) and therefore the real "no" vote is much smaller.

For all of these complaints that there are too many naysayers there are just as many drama queens complaining that nothing ever gets implemented on this forum, or that it's always dead, and is never going to change. The whole point of discussion and debate on this topic is to work towards what's best for the forum.

This. I am well for a donations=rewards system as long as people aren't classed as more important than others.

Pete.
05-05-2014, 07:54 AM
:facepalm:

Can't people debate anymore

chuff me dizzy
11-05-2014, 03:18 PM
I don't think you can have a say on what's rude or not, I've lost count at how many times you've insulted me because i'm young.

Of course he can have a say ,and people "over 21" have been attacked on here so often a lot of good members have left

chuff me dizzy
11-05-2014, 03:34 PM
All the broke people voting no
How rude ? Im not broke ( far from it ) but I wouldnt subscribe as I come on rarely off season ,dont enter quizzes, "love me " elections ,and Sheriff has a right to his opinion

chuff me dizzy
11-05-2014, 03:43 PM
IF changes were introduced on here ,the one I would like to see would be a kiddies section and an over 21s section ,where adults could discuss BB in a grown up way

Tom4784
11-05-2014, 03:51 PM
IF changes were introduced on here ,the one I would like to see would be a kiddies section and an over 21s section ,where adults could discuss BB in a grown up way

Terrible idea, I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the infractions we hand out are to people over the age of 21 so the idea of an exclusive board for older people based on the idea it would lead to mature discussion is a flawed one. Chances are it'll be used as a place to bitch about other members.

Kizzy
11-05-2014, 03:58 PM
Terrible idea, I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the infractions we hand out are to people over the age of 21 so the idea of an exclusive board for older people based on the idea it would lead to mature discussion is a flawed one. Chances are it'll be used as a place to bitch about other members.


So no different to how it is now then?... Everyone has a good ol bitch even in the towers I'm guessing...

Josy
11-05-2014, 04:01 PM
No Kizzy not like it is now considering there is no private sections atm so your post doesn't even make sense..

Agree with Dezzy 100% here, in fact most infractions are handed out to over 21's on here especially in the BB section during on season so to say over 21's would have adult discussions in a private section is ridiculous.

chuff me dizzy
11-05-2014, 04:05 PM
Exactly. I'm hugely in favour of bringing donations on to the site, I just don't want people being classed as more 'important' than other people just because they pay £1 extra than someone else. Perks are fine, don't see why we can't have them if we donate. But VIP sections and being called 'VIPs' are a big no no IMO.

:thumbs::thumbs:

chuff me dizzy
11-05-2014, 04:07 PM
Terrible idea, I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the infractions we hand out are to people over the age of 21 so the idea of an exclusive board for older people based on the idea it would lead to mature discussion is a flawed one. Chances are it'll be used as a place to bitch about other members.

The over 21s do not argue with each other(or rarely ), just the cheeky kids :wink:

Ramsay
11-05-2014, 04:08 PM
separating members based on their age is ridiculous

Josy
11-05-2014, 04:12 PM
Stop taking snipes at other members in here.

Kizzy
11-05-2014, 04:13 PM
No Kizzy not like it is now considering there is no private sections atm so your post doesn't even make sense..

Agree with Dezzy 100% here, in fact most infractions are handed out to over 21's on here especially in the BB section during on season so to say over 21's would have adult discussions in a private section is ridiculous.

It makes perfect sense.... people on here bitch all the time don't they?
So whether they do it on here as they do now or in another section altogether makes no difference at all.

And you can never be sure who is over 21 and who isn't, or who is male and female either to be fair this is the internet.

Josy
11-05-2014, 04:14 PM
It makes perfect sense.... people on here bitch all the time don't they?
So whether they do it on here as they do now or in another section altogether makes no difference at all.

And you can never be sure who is over 21 and who isn't, or who is male and female either to be fair this is the internet.

Most members can be trusted about things like that..

And no people don't bitch all the time tbh.

Jessica.
11-05-2014, 04:19 PM
You wouldn't believe the amount of members who have nudes floating around kizzy. :wink: