If the Broadcasters want Nigel Farage in the Debates Ed Miliband says yes

[arista]

He was on A. Marr BBC1
with Nigel next to him
at the show ending


He said if the broadcasters
want Nigel in the debates
with the PM , Him and Clegg
he says yes.


I hope LBC/SkyNewsHD do one with the 4.

[joeysteele]

Although I disagree with near all he stands for, Nigel Farage that is,I think there is a case for him to be included this time.

[arista]

Although I disagree with near all he stands for, Nigel Farage that is,I think there is a case for him to be included this time.


Yes Red Ed
says its up to the broadcasters
to say


Not the PM

[Kizzy]

He's a rot that just keeps spreading isn't he that farage?

[arista]

He's a rot that just keeps spreading isn't he that farage?


No he opens up debates
and gets Real Public Views

[Crimson Dynamo]

farage is good for politics and represents a lot of people's views

[Kizzy]

He doesn't open up debate, he bangs on about the same points constantly... it's not the same.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He doesn't open up debate, he bangs on about the same points constantly... it's not the same.

that is not true he has opinions on lots of things. :nono:

[arista]

He doesn't open up debate, he bangs on about the same points constantly... it's not the same.


He was on Andrew Marr
this morning
even better

[user104658]

Of course it should be "allowed" ... We can't start censoring politics by simply trying to silence controversial opinions... even if it's "the bad stuff ". It sets a dangerous precedent.

[Cherie]

Jeez they gave BNP Nick a platform, why not Nige

[Kizzy]

They're not wildly different to griffins either to be honest are they?

[Crimson Dynamo]

They're not wildly different to griffins either to be honest are they?

what rot

[Cherie]

They're not wildly different to griffins either to be honest are they?

A sanitised more palatable version for the more genteel voter.

[GiRTh]

A sanitised more palatable version for the more genteel voter.X2

[Kizzy]

A sanitised more palatable version for the more genteel voter.

Oh rather, what...
Not your croquet on the lawn types just the bought me council house Mrs bucket types though :joker:

[Aduk]

Although I disagree with near all he stands for, Nigel Farage that is,I think there is a case for him to be included this time.

I'm not so sure - UKIP don't have a single MP. Say Farage is invited on to the debates, what happens if the other minor parties who have MP's want to appear? The likes of the Greens, Respect, SNP and Plaid Cymru all have MP's unlike UKIP. Many would argue this wouldn't be fair.

[Cherie]

I'm not so sure - UKIP don't have a single MP. Say Farage is invited on to the debates, what happens if the other minor parties who have MP's want to appear? The likes of the Greens, Respect, SNP and Plaid Cymru all have MP's unlike UKIP. Many would argue this wouldn't be fair.


Good point Aduk.

[Kizzy]

Actually that is an excellent point ... It's all down to his ridiculous posturing and the bizarre statements his hangers on come out with that has got this media attention.
It has been a PR stunt and nothing more that has led to this point and nothing of any merit or achievement whatsoever.
Soundbites, rhetoric and controversy that's what this sandcastle of a party is.

[arista]

They're not wildly different to griffins either to be honest are they?


UKIP has Black and Asian members
so Kizzy you are way out of touch.

[Kizzy]

UKIP has Black and Asian members
so Kizzy you are way out of touch.

Bit rich that.... but if that's what you think.

UKIP are out of touch, look at the ridiculous statements made by the spokespersons and the outmoded thinking of the party ethos arista.

[Livia]

I'm not so sure - UKIP don't have a single MP. Say Farage is invited on to the debates, what happens if the other minor parties who have MP's want to appear? The likes of the Greens, Respect, SNP and Plaid Cymru all have MP's unlike UKIP. Many would argue this wouldn't be fair.

Maybe UKIP doesn't have any MPs but they've got plenty of MEPs. This election is a European election, so I don't really understand your objection. What's more, they have loads of Councillors and this time next year after the General Election, going on current public support, they'll have plenty of MPs too. This isn't a notion that pleases me... but I believe it will happen.

[Kizzy]

10 good reasons not to vote for Ukip
Nigel Farage may seem genial but his party is anything but. The polls tell us that many voters are tempted to vote Ukip at the next election, while others dismiss them as a joke – but the prospect of them gaining more power in Europe is no laughing matter

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/29/10-good-reasons-not-vote-ukip-nigel-farage-europe

[Livia]

God knows we don't often agree, Kizzy... but the thought of UKIP doing as well as I suspect they will really concerns me. At least if they do well at the Euros, it may give the other parties the kick up the arse they need to up their game before the General/Local Elections in 2015.

[Kizzy]

Ukip will combine income tax and national insurance into a flat-rate income tax of 31% for all incomes over £11,500."

We will pass legislation that establishes beyond doubt that schools and teachers have the right to discipline pupils without fearing legal action. Ukip will also give schools the choice of whether or not to use corporal punishment, but does not advocate this as a party."

Who were they trying to appeal to here? These have supposedly been dropped but come on does the country really believe they have forgone some of these wild and wooly policies?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/23/the-ukip-politices-disowned-by-nigel-farage

[Aduk]

Kizzy, your link shows UKIP is no party of the rich.

So basically a UKIP government would destroy the state and public sector jobs, reduce immigration to a size that would damage our economy, scrap a human rights act that protests basic civil liberties, privatise and outsource our precious NHS more than the Tories have and destroy our environment with their support for coal-fired power and the absurdity of their climate-change denial stance. That's not forgetting taking us out of the EU and scrapping the gay marriage law. AKA Farage the ultimate free-marketeer and city boy. Certainly not your typical man in the pub!

[Livia]

Kizzy, your link shows UKIP is no party of the rich.

So basically a UKIP government would destroy the state and public sector jobs, reduce immigration to a size that would damage our economy, scrap a human rights act that protests basic civil liberties, privatise and outsource our precious NHS more than the Tories have and destroy our environment with their support for coal-fired power and the absurdity of their climate-change denial stance. That's not forgetting taking us out of the EU and scrapping the gay marriage law. AKA Farage the ultimate free-marketeer and city boy. Certainly not your typical man in the pub!

I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, but I have to remind you... it's a link from the Guardian. All of the press is skewed one way or the other.

[Nedusa]

He's a rot that just keeps spreading isn't he that farage?

Stop showing your complete and utter ignorance with stupid posts like this, it really pisses people off having to read rubbish like this !!!!

[Kizzy]

Stop showing your complete and utter ignorance with stupid posts like this, it really pisses people off having to read rubbish like this !!!!

Hey that's my opinion if you don't like it jog on!!

[Kizzy]

I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, but I have to remind you... it's a link from the Guardian. All of the press is skewed one way or the other.

In fairness that wasn't a report of how the Guardian see UKIP policy... but actual UKIP policies, they may have changed now slightly but it underpinned the bare bones of what they stand for and that is enough to discredit anything they say for me.

[Nedusa]

Hey that's my opinion if you don't like it jog on!!

Sorry, but I don't agree , your comments are misinformed lack any substance and are hateful to the Politician in question.

I feel compelled to reply to posts like this as they serve no purpose other than to elicit similar responses from other posters who see this as just an unwarranted character attack on this politician.

[user104658]

Sorry, but I don't agree , your comments are misinformed lack any substance and are hateful to the Politician in question.

I feel compelled to reply to posts like this as they serve no purpose other than to elicit similar responses from other posters who see this as just an unwarranted character attack on this politician.

Err... to be fair... for one I think you're being hyperbolic, here... and even if not... what you're describing happens in every single political thread on this forum, directed at one politician or another. I've never seen you react like this to (for example) any Milliband-bashing or even the (perfectly justified, mind you) Camerosbourne bashing.

So I have to ask: why do you have such a boner for Farage? The only explanation I can think of, is that you actually are Farage :conf:

[Kizzy]

Sorry, but I don't agree , your comments are misinformed lack any substance and are hateful to the Politician in question.

I feel compelled to reply to posts like this as they serve no purpose other than to elicit similar responses from other posters who see this as just an unwarranted character attack on this politician.


Hey I know as much as the next man and make my opinion based on the words directly from his mouth not he press... As I have said before if you don't like my view on farage tough, I'm not going to sugar coat it in fear of offending you and your sensibilities.
I feel compelled to remind you that in the absence of thought police I am free to express whatever position I hold on whoever and whatever I like!
I can't be held responsible for your outbursts.