Gary Barlow and two other Take That stars - Pay your Taxes

[arista]

You should have used a better legal team
Now Pay you Fecking Taxes


Gary Barlow and two other Take That stars to be hit by £20million bill after court rules they poured £66million into tax avoidance scheme for the super-rich

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2624826/Gary-Barlow-two-Take-That-stars-hit-20million-bill-court-rules-poured-66million-tax-avoidance-scheme-super-rich.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

what is wrong with these people who just want more and more money, greedy bastards

[Pete.]

fecking bastards

sign of the times

[Mystic Mock]

They haven't got that funk that's why they won't pay their taxes.

[joeysteele]

Surely not Mr squeaky clean Gary Barlow,this pillar of virtue we are expected to look up to these days.

What goes round comes round.

[arista]

They are saying Barlow has a £20million TAX bill
he will have get on tour fast
bring some cash in.
And sell a spare home

[Ammi]

..a million love songs/twenty million tax bill...Gary holding back the tears..

HFQydVSTxEo

[arista]

THE PM Live on GMBHD
just said Barlow can keep his OBE
but pay back the tax.



Utter Stupid Labour MP M. Hodge
said Barlow should return his OBE
Pathetic Woman

[Cherie]

THE PM Live on GMBHD
just said Barlow can keep his OBE
but pay back the tax.



Utter Stupid Labour MP M. Hodge
said Barlow should return his OBE
Pathetic Woman


Shouldn't he put threatened with jail like any other tax evader and stripped of his OBE, friends in high places :bored:

[joeysteele]

Shouldn't he put threatened with jail like any other tax evader and stripped of his OBE, friends in high places :bored:

I cannot get why he got an OBE in the first place. Actually yes, for the devious way this scam was done, I actually agree he should lose his OBE.

He stands there moralising at others,given responsible roles as to the Queen's jubilee and the year he did this he was spouting off supporting David Cameron and the Conservatives in the 2010 election.

No wonder David Cameron doesn't want to say he should lose his OBE.Talk about double standards.
Frankly for me, as to many of the people who get them, they are meaningless anyway.
Pure greed and deceit is likely at the heart of this scam.

[arista]

I cannot get why he got an OBE in the first place. Actually yes, for the devious way this scam was done, I actually agree he should lose his OBE.

He stands there moralising at others,given responsible roles as to the Queen's jubilee and the year he did this he was spouting off supporting David Cameron and the Conservatives in the 2010 election.

No wonder David Cameron doesn't want to say he should lose his OBE.Talk about double standards.
Frankly for me, as to many of the people who get them, they are meaningless anyway.
Pure greed and deceit is likely at the heart of this scam.


For Helping Children in Need
and other Charitys

He would not lose his OBE

Its just a Old Fecking Labour MP
getting a Dumb Distraction

[arista]

"threatened with jail"


Why
Barlow will pay his Tax
and the private tax adviser, he can give him a kicking

[Cherie]

For Helping Children in Need
and other Charitys

He would not lose his OBE

Its just a Old Fecking Labour MP
getting a Dumb Distraction

Lots of ordinary people help charities and get no recognition, nor do they want it!

[arista]

Lots of ordinary people help charities and get no recognition, nor do they want it!


Yes but he took time out to help
it cost him money to help

[Kizzy]

So what, giving to charity is meant to be an altruistic isn't it not quid pro quo?
He was prob so generous with his time/money knowing he was clawing it back.

[Livia]

I don't agree with what he's done, or rather what his accountants did, but Margaret Hodge has got a bloody nerve. It took them fourteen years to take Robert Mugabe's knighthood off him, so demanding Barlow hand back his OBE is a bit rich. I'm a fan of the Public Accounts Committee, but she's overstepping her authority demanding honours are returned. That's really not her decision to make.

[arista]

He is going to pay it back.


Its a Jimmy Carr moment

Press will try and corner him

[joeysteele]

For Helping Children in Need
and other Charitys

He would not lose his OBE

Its just a Old Fecking Labour MP
getting a Dumb Distraction

With respect 'all' celebrities who help with 'children in need',(indeed with all charitable events), generally get a massive payback when the new single or album they are performing on such events soars into the charts.

He does these chairty events and also contributes to them because of the surplus wealth he already has.
I have more respect for those who help with charitable events but get not a single bit of recognition because generally they are the dogsbodies of the help.
Such as those who give their time to clean up and also help set up the events on the day too.

I don't just think he should lose his OBE, I don't think he should have had one in the fiirst place and if I were him after the revealing of this scam, I would have already handed back the OBE or at least offered to.
I actually agree with Margaret Hodge as to this and it's not very often I do that.

Her judgement on this is far better than what we heard from the Prime Minister this morning,that's for sure.

[Kizzy]

Well there are procedures I guess, as Benito Mussolini and Nicolae Ceaucescu had theirs stripped too then that may happen... not that I would compare Barlow to a despot :joker: More of a Lester Piggot.

[Ammi]

With respect 'all' celebrities who help with 'children in need',(indeed with all charitable events), generally get a massive payback when the new single or album they are performing on such events soars into the charts.

He does these chairty events and also contributes to them because of the surplus wealth he already has.
I have more respect for those who help with charitable events but get not a single bit of recognition because generally they are the dogsbodies of the help.
Such as those who give their time to clean up and also help set up the events on the day too.

I don't just think he should lose his OBE, I don't think he should have had one in the fiirst place and if I were him after the revealing of this scam, I would have already handed back the OBE or at least offered to.
I actually agree with Margaret Hodge as to this and it's not very often I do that.

Her judgement on this is far better than what we heard from the Prime Minister this morning,that's for sure.

...hmmm, has Jimmy Savill not still got his though..?..maybe he can't be 'stripped' posthumously..?...I think though that if Gary wanted to give it back that would be one thing but I don't think that he should necessarily have any pressure to do so though, Joey...what he did was wrong and he's paying it back, which even for someone so wealthy is no small thing...it's kind of to me, where does it all end...?...

[joeysteele]

...hmmm, has Jimmy Savill not still got his though..?..maybe he can't be 'stripped' posthumously..?...I think though that if Gary wanted to give it back that would be one thing but I don't think that he should necessarily have any pressure to do so though, Joey...what he did was wrong and he's paying it back, which even for someone so wealthy is no small thing...it's kind of to me, where does it all end...?...

I think he has been posthumously stripped of his Knighthood but I am not 100% surea s to that,no one however refers him as Sir Jimmy Saville now that's for sure but he is, as you rightly point out, dead.
Even if he hasn't been officially stripped of it, he would have been I am sure had he still been alive now.

For me it could end by stopping giving such awards to people who are and have been for ages paid very handsomely as to status and wealth for their showbusiness achievements.
They get plenty other awards from the music business anyway.

If doing things for charity and using such events to plug an album or new single should result in an OBE or whatever then give them out to all who assist with charitable events and not just the better known and richer of those that do.

I think Gary Barlow is a really good singer, a brilliant songwriter and performer but aside from his massive wealth as to charitable events,he is no better than anyone else who does such things in my view.

[Ammi]

I think he has been posthumously stripped of his Knighthood but I am not 100% surea s to that,no one however refers him as Sir Jimmy Saville now that's for sure but he is, as you rightly point out, dead.
Even if he hasn't been officially stripped of it, he would have been I am sure had he still been alive now.

For me it could end by stopping giving such awards to people who are and have been for ages paid very handsomely as to status and wealth for their showbusiness achievements.
They get plenty other awards from the music business anyway.

If doing things for charity and using such events to plug an album or new single should result in an OBE or whatever then give them out to all who assist with charitable events and not just the better known and richer of those that do.

I think Gary Barlow is a really good singer, a brilliant songwriter and performer but aside from his massive wealth as to charitable events,he is no better than anyone else who does such things in my view.

..I actually don't know too much about it Joey, why was Gary given the OBE..was it for charity works..?...but yeah, I agree, lots of celebrities are involved in worthy causes and helping to raise funds and awareness in things, I'm not sure why Gary was more exceptional as to have received it..?..

[Livia]

Honours aren't just given to famous people. I don't see any problem with giving honours to people who've used their fame and talent to raise cash as Barlow's done, and for their services to music or entertainment. There are plenty of lollypop ladies and charity workers etc. who've been recognised, and you can nominate someone for an award if you think they deserve one. I'm less worried about famous people being honoured than I am about people like political party association chairmen, who do bugger-all generally, and many are only it in for the kudos and the chance of an OBE or the like.

[Jesus.]

Whatever I saved, whatever I saved I didn't mean it
I just wanted taxes good.

[Ammi]

...Whenever I'm wrong just show me the bill and I'll pay it ...

...so will that mean a knighthood..?...

[joeysteele]

...Whenever I'm wrong just show me the bill and I'll pay it ...

...so will that mean a knighthood..?...

More than likely,sadly too.:hugesmile:

[Kazanne]

As I see it it,it wasn't JUST Gary Barlow though was it,so why the hate just for him?

[Jesus.]

As I see it it,it wasn't JUST Gary Barlow though was it,so why the hate just for him?

He has the most punchable face?

[joeysteele]

As I see it it,it wasn't JUST Gary Barlow though was it,so why the hate just for him?

I don't hate him Kazanne, he is though the only one with an OBE I think, so we could and should be able to come to expect he would try to avoid any tax avoidance schemes or scams.

The sad thing is until such schemes and scams are made a criminal offence, ( as benefit fraud and claiming what shouldn't be is),then those with the means and wealth will continue to in effect rob the British Nation as to tax due from them.

[Ammi]

....hmmm, yeah he did get found out though Joey so he will have to repay it and that amount of money wouldn't come easy for anyone...maybe instead of suggesting he return his OBE, we should be concentrating on all of those little monkeys who haven't been found out yet/are still doing it..:laugh:...

[Kazanne]

He has the most punchable face?

:shocked:lol,I quite like him:hugesmile:

[Kazanne]

I don't hate him Kazanne, he is though the only one with an OBE I think, so we could and should be able to come to expect he would try to avoid any tax avoidance schemes or scams.

The sad thing is until such schemes and scams are made a criminal offence, ( as benefit fraud and claiming what shouldn't be is),then those with the means and wealth will continue to in effect rob the British Nation as to tax due from them.

I DO understand that Joey,but it just seems to be aimed at him for some reason,two other members were also said to have done it,but only Garys name seems to have been used in the story,just seems unfair imo,and I'll wager there's loads more.:hugesmile:As for the OBE,I think loads of people have them who are not worthy.

[joeysteele]

....hmmm, yeah he did get found out though Joey so he will have to repay it and that amount of money wouldn't come easy for anyone...maybe instead of suggesting he return his OBE, we should be concentrating on all of those little monkeys who haven't been found out yet/are still doing it..:laugh:...



I 100% agree with you as to that and I wish more was being done as to that too.

[joeysteele]

I DO understand that Joey,but it just seems to be aimed at him for some reason,two other members were also said to have done it,but only Garys name seems to have been used in the story,just seems unfair imo,and I'll wager there's loads more.:hugesmile:As for the OBE,I think loads of people have them who are not worthy.

It is Mark Owen and Howard Donald from Take That too apparantly along with Gary.

I am only 22 and already in life despair at some of the people who get OBE's and other awards,even worse some who get Sir and Dame.

You would easily win your wager Kazanne as to there being loads more too, sadly they get liittle done as to weeding them out and getting due funding paid by them to their Country.

[Ammi]

..wasn't he one of one hundred celebrities or they were three of one hundred..?..yeah, I don't see the direction at them, who are the other ninety seven....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Take That

no, give it back you greedy fecker

[smudgie]

Don't see any need to strip him of hs OBE.
He earned it, not just for the work we know about but for all his charitable work he does not mention.
I think this "Icebreaker" company should be looked into, if it is operating under false pretenses then perhaps it is time something was done about it.
I wonder if indeed some of the money does go to help aspiring artists.
It appears a very fine line between tax avoidance and tax evasion, would be an idea to make people pay it all back with interest..maybe 10/15 %.
I would also like to know how much Gary Barlow HAS paid in tax as well as the amount he has not.

[joeysteele]

Take That

no, give it back you greedy fecker

Absolutely, also if people are to be given decoration as recognition for whatever they are and do and therefore be near heralded as examples to everyone else, then they should lose such decoration if they fall well short.
In effect robbing the Country of due tax on your wealth and money earned,for me at any rate, falls well short of actually being any example to anyone.

[arista]

Gary Barlow's Twitter account hacked and offensive message posted about his stillborn child amid tax dodge backlash

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625804/Gary-Barlow-KEEP-OBE-despite-multi-million-pound-tax-dodge-says-Cameron-outcry-stars-66m-tax-shelter.html#ixzz31b2Ytyve



What a Mess GAZ

[Vicky.]

Gary Barlow's Twitter account hacked and offensive message posted about his stillborn child amid tax dodge backlash

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625804/Gary-Barlow-KEEP-OBE-despite-multi-million-pound-tax-dodge-says-Cameron-outcry-stars-66m-tax-shelter.html#ixzz31b2Ytyve



What a Mess GAZ

Thats ****ing disgusting. Seriously disgusting.

So...Jason Orange is the only one whos paying his taxes? Good on him

Also I disagree that Barlow should be stripped of his OBE. Pay back what he owes, yes. Be treat the same as anyone else caught doing the same/equivalant in 'normal wages' scams (not that it will happen), yes. But stripping him of awards and stuff, no.

[Me. I Am Salman]

strip him of his OBE
all these rich ****ers are so greedy it's unreal

[Kizzy]

It's a bit of a double standard though if people have had honours rescinded previously.

[joeysteele]

strip him of his OBE
all these rich ****ers are so greedy it's unreal

I think his OBE should definaitely go,in fact in his place I would have handed it back anyway after this.

Obviously his awards from the world of music,by all means keep them but nothing as to decoration from the State.

It isn't just more greed as to this scheme either that he got involved in with his wealth, there was also deceit as to creating losses that never existed in the scheme as a scam.

[Kizzy]

Ok I love lily again now.....

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[arista]

strip him of his OBE
all these rich ****ers are so greedy it's unreal


Never
he got that for the Charity work.



he had a bad adviser


Get Over it

[joeysteele]

Never
he got that for the Charity work.



he had a bad adviser


Get Over it

It slightly irritates me when I hear in the media for instance the defence that celebrities got bad advice, that may certainly be so in their early careers but this was done in 2010.

Gary Barlow clearly knew how to make a fortune and to that point hold on nicely to it as well, he clearly was eager to take this 'advice' and put a massive amount into it.

I would think the royalties celebrities get from increased sales of their records after doing charity events are more than enough reward for supporting the charity without having to get a decoration from the State too.

Sorry but I hold no sympathy for him at all on this,he is a clever and tuned in individual who I doubt would take any advice lightly anyway,especially over money.
I for one don't look at him with any respect after this,he should get the money paid back and be paying all his due taxes to the UK and he could also stop presenting himself as this so called pillar of society too.

I'd be saying this about anyones else involved in any tax avoidance just as I would for any benefit cheat too.

[InOne]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27364089

Surprise surprise

[Marsh.]

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[InOne]

JK Rowling on paying taxes:

I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.

A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug.

[Princess]

I am clearly not known for being unbias when it comes to matters to do with Take That. But the way people are treating Gary is vile. Especially when it wasn't just him. Yes he did a bad thing but he isn't the devil incarnate and he isn't to blame for all the world's problems.

He got finincally advised to do something and he did, Jason Orange has a different accountant to rest of them because his brother is one. How is anyone to know what went on? That Gary was sat there rubbing his hands together going 'I'll be minted', a decision was made and we don't know how much direct involvement they had in, maybe they trusted the wrong people.

I saw that tweet that was mentioned on the Mail, it made me sick to my stomach, no one deserves to be treated that way. It's horrid the way people are revelling in being cruel to someone, especially someone who has done so much good in his time.

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/p403x403/10325783_10154259094595495_8067751084029787950_n.j pg

Yes, what Gary(and Howard and Mark) did was wrong but people need to calm down about it, it's gone too far. And no he shouldn't be stripped off his OBE, he got it for good reason and that's not changed because he made a mistake.

[joeysteele]

JK Rowling on paying taxes:

That was a good read.

I actually like Gary Barlow but this scheme he freely and happily joined recorded false losses that never ever occurred simply to avoid paying tax to the UK that would have been due.

Had this not come to light, Mr Barlow would have been sitting even more pretty than he already was.
Anyone involved in, or organising anything, that by pure deceit attempts to get round the paying of due taxes should be made to pay every bit of those taxes.
Also since Gary Barlow is the only one,(so far known), with an OBE for whatever reasons it was given,then morally he has lost the right to have it now, in my opinion.

Anyone claiming benefits they shouldn't and therefore taking off the State funds that should be there would be hauled into the courts.
It really is time the same was done as to all those who get involved in any tax avoidance schemes.

[InOne]

That was a good read.

I actually like Gary Barlow but this scheme he freely and happily joined recorded false losses that never ever occurred simply to avoid paying tax to the UK that would have been due.

Had this not come to light, Mr Barlow would have been sitting even more pretty than he already was.
Anyone involved in, or organising anything, that by pure deceit attempts to get round the paying of due taxes should be made to pay every bit of those taxes.
Also since Gary Barlow is the only one,(so far known), with an OBE for whatever reasons it was given,then morally he has lost the right to have it now, in my opinion.

Anyone claiming benefits they shouldn't and therefore taking off the State funds that should be there would be hauled into the courts.
It really is time the same was done as to all those who get involved in any tax avoidance schemes.

JK Rowling is a true English rose. Unlike Barlow the beast :nono:

[reece(:]

465865110112985088
clock it, drag it and stamp it

[Z]

I highly doubt they were ignorant to the fact they were dodging tax but I'd imagine they felt pretty safe in doing so if so many famous people are doing it too. The earlier Jimmy Carr scandal probably got them all a bit panicked and it's no surprise this has been uncovered not all that long after that. It won't really affect his career too much and I doubt he'll lose his OBE either. I bet there'll be more instances of celebrities dodging tax revealed over time, it's probably really common among the rich and powerful.

[smeagol]

i got no problem with celebs trying to avoid taxes. we all do it or would if we could.
the amount they pay is mental . who wants to pay taxes for war and greed anyway.

[Marsh.]

What was the tweet posted to him saying saying exactly? :suspect:

[Vicky.]

JK Rowling on paying taxes:

:worship:

Its a shame more don't have that attitude to be honest.

I mean, noone likes paying taxes. When I am at work fulltime I pay about £70 per week (though that includes NI too)..which is probably really low to most people but it still kills me :laugh:

I would much rather pay what..£50k+ and GET £50k+ take home than pay £60 and get £300. Dodging in the former example is just pure greed to me. Anyone who can't survive on a millionaires wage without having to find dodgy scams is a ****ing tool.

[Z]

Yeah like I just don't get the point in dodging taxes really - we're all taxed because the government needs money to pay for things for all of us. Every single one of us has used or will use public services that the government funds. Some of us will rely on benefits at some point. It's just a bit selfish to not pay whatever you're supposed to be taxed; you're only being taxed that much because you earn enough to justify it. I mean as annoying as it is, you can't miss money that you never had in the first place. Trying to dodge it and have more money is ****ty.

[Princess]

What was the tweet posted to him saying saying exactly? :suspect:

It wasn't posted to him. Someone hacked into his account and tweeted a horrible thing about his stillborn daughter.