Quite freaked out.

[Kate!]

So I'm on anti anxiety medication, and it's relaxing and all that, makes me quite tired, drained though. I got in bed at 10 and literally shut my eyes straightaway and felt my breathing relax and everything, could actually hear myself snoring too! But I was aware, so that's not properly asleep is it? I opened my eyes and saw my clock, but I was deep relaxed and snoring! I freaked out and sat up. Was bloody weird. Now I don't want to try go back to sleep in case in happens again, I didn't like it. Has anyone ever had this. What is it? Freaky!

[jackc1806]

OMG Kate that's sounds horrible, exactly the sort of thing I'm scared of! Hope you're okay :hug: I've never had it but maybe google it and see what it says? :)

[Jords]

If I wake up and go back to sleep (e.g. alarm clock) Im often aware Im sleeping and dreaming and more control of what happens. Lucid dreaming I think it is.

Also if I fall asleep on the sofa sometimes I make this terrible sound cus of the position, and I can hear that noise while I sleep which sometimes encourages me to wake up or I ignore it.

Weird. Dunno if Im fully asleep in either case but I become rested!

[Kate!]

It says lucid dreaming, I'm really weirded out by it.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I've had that where I've been so completely drained of energy but I'm not quite fully asleep.

I sometimes get sleep paralysis and can't move in the bed. I can feel myself in the bed but it feels as though someone is hovering over me.

[Cherie]

Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them.

[smudgie]

Very relaxed state of mind Kate..a bit like when you are hypnotised.
Sort of asleep but you are aware of the noises etc around you.

[Ammi]

Yeah, I've had that where I've been so completely drained of energy but I'm not quite fully asleep.

I sometimes get sleep paralysis and can't move in the bed. I can feel myself in the bed but it feels as though someone is hovering over me.

..that's terrifying when you can feel someone there and breathing on you and you can't move at all...I occasionally get that as well...


..are you ok now Kate..?..

[Kate!]

Yeah I'm fine Ammi, I just don't want to try going to sleep again, too weird.

And Cherie, I'm on the medication to stop me having anxiety attacks so I need them.

[Kate!]

It was like I'd fell asleep so fast, my body hadn't gone into sleep state. It wasn't sleep paralysis.

[Vicky.]

Lucid dreaming is amazing. I make myself do it a lot of the time, but it took years to 'train' myself into being able to do it at will. Always feel ****ing knackered after though

[Marsh.]

Lucid dreaming is amazing. I make myself do it a lot of the time, but it took years to 'train' myself into being able to do it at will. Always feel ****ing knackered after though

:suspect: What kind of weird **** do you get up to at bedtime?

[Benjamin]

At least it wasn't a wet dream

[Redway]

Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them.

No, but they can certainly take the edge off. I'm on anti-anxiety tablets as well and they are useful for treating symptoms. You can't just snap out of taking them.

[Glenn.]

Lucid dreaming is amazing. I make myself do it a lot of the time, but it took years to 'train' myself into being able to do it at will. Always feel ****ing knackered after though

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[Ryan57]

That darn Fiz picture. :joker:

[Vicky.]

:suspect: What kind of weird **** do you get up to at bedtime?

:joker: I know it sounds dodgy as ****, but I think the reason it makes you tired is that you don't sleep properly or something when you do it. Is an amazing feeling though being in control of your dreams..I can breathe underwater and everything :D

[Marsh.]

:joker: I know it sounds dodgy as ****, but I think the reason it makes you tired is that you don't sleep properly or something when you do it. Is an amazing feeling though being in control of your dreams..I can breathe underwater and everything :D

:joker: I want you as my therapist.

[Livia]

Could you have dreamed it? I've dreamed I've woken up before... it's quite freaky.

[Kate!]

Could you have dreamed it? I've dreamed I've woken up before... it's quite freaky.

I actually think that's what happened when I analysed it this morning, it was freaky. I tried to do it again and it happened though, I was like :amazed: wasn't as scary the second time but I could only cope with it for a few mins before making myself sit up.

[Lee.]

I read in bed no matter how tired I am and sometimes I start dreaming and snoring a bit whilst I'm still reading.. I know that sounds daft but it does happen quite often :)

[Cherie]

No, but they can certainly take the edge off. I'm on anti-anxiety tablets as well and they are useful for treating symptoms. You can't just snap out of taking them.

Wean yourself off and snap out of it are two different approaches. Unless you have an anxiety disorder for which you will need life long medication, I would imagine at some point you would like to come off of them?

[Headie]

Sometimes I dream that I've woken up, but then I can't move a muscle or bone in my body, and I'm literally paralysed until some like demonic figure hovers over me, but I can't see it and only when it leaves is when I actually wake up in real life.

It feels so realistic though, like I even wake up in the same position I thought I had woken up in, if that makes sense :joker:

[arista]

So I'm on anti anxiety medication, and it's relaxing and all that, makes me quite tired, drained though. I got in bed at 10 and literally shut my eyes straightaway and felt my breathing relax and everything, could actually hear myself snoring too! But I was aware, so that's not properly asleep is it? I opened my eyes and saw my clock, but I was deep relaxed and snoring! I freaked out and sat up. Was bloody weird. Now I don't want to try go back to sleep in case in happens again, I didn't like it. Has anyone ever had this. What is it? Freaky!

Check online
with the Name of your Meds
Side Effects

[Redway]

[/B]

Wean yourself off and snap out of it are two different approaches. Unless you have an anxiety disorder for which you will need life long medication, I would imagine at some point you would like to come off of them?

Can't speak for anyone else but I've been victim to severe panic attacks since I was just a kid and also have a hoist of other anxiety problems so I can't imagine even weaning myself off them.

[Jarrod]

Are you sure you didn't dream it? I did a few days ago, I dreamed that I was getting up as normal... and then woke up in bed.

[lily.]

Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them.

That's a bold statement.

Do you know why Katherine is on meds? Do you know what her situation is?

I don't know the answer to either of these questions, which is why I wouldn't suggest she 'wean herself off' anything. Some people require meds to function on a day to day basis. Some people only require them short-term. Everyone's situation is different. But one thing is common.. people who do require meds often wish they didn't.

I find your post ignorant, and insulting.

[Redway]

L. :love:

[thesheriff443]

That's a bold statement.

Do you know why Katherine is on meds? Do you know what her situation is?

I don't know the answer to either of these questions, which is why I wouldn't suggest she 'wean herself off' anything. Some people require meds to function on a day to day basis. Some people only require them short-term. Everyone's situation is different. But one thing is common.. people who do require meds often wish they didn't.

I find your post ignorant, and insulting.

no need for the last part!

[Livia]

Got to agree with L - as usual. The vast majority of people don't mindlessly pop meds. They take them for a reason.

[Redway]

Got to agree with L - as usual. The vast majority of people don't mindlessly pop meds. They take them for a reason.

Exactly. I'd rather not be taking propranolol and SSRIs but it's obviously a must given the nature of my condition. Being told to wean yourself off them like a diabetic can stop taking insulin is an absurd notion.

[thesheriff443]

Exactly. I'd rather not be taking propranolol and SSRIs but it's obviously a must given the nature of my condition. Being told to wean yourself off them like a diabetic can stop taking insulin is an absurd notion.

no one has told you to wean yourself off of your medication

[Marsh.]

Cherie never said anyone is mindlessly popping pills.

[Redway]

no one has told you to wean yourself off of your medication

Just saying, we don't know Kate's circumstances so no one here is in any position to give medical advice to her. I was giving an example of how I couldn't wean myself off so it's wrong to assume Kate should do likewise.

[Livia]

Cherie never said anyone is mindlessly popping pills.

Cherie said, and I quote: "Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them". If someone's been prescribed them, then I don't see how an unqualified amateur telling them to wean themselves off them is anything but unhelpful.

[lily.]

no need for the last part!

I think there was every need. I was stating my opinion, which is that I found the post ignorant and insulting.

If someone found me ignorant, insulting or anything else, I wouldn't object to them saying so.

[Marsh.]

Cherie said, and I quote: "Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them". If someone's been prescribed them, then I don't see how an unqualified amateur telling them to wean themselves off them is anything but unhelpful.

Fair enough, but the post didn't insinuate that Kate was being careless.

[thesheriff443]

Cherie said, and I quote: "Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them". If someone's been prescribed them, then I don't see how an unqualified amateur telling them to wean themselves off them is anything but unhelpful.

you have a way with words, Cherie never said she was a doctor, if you can do without medication, then you are better off in the long run,
anxiety medication comes with their own problems.

[lily.]

Every medication comes with its own problems. I think it will be up to Katherine and her doctor to decide which ones she needs to take and which she doesn't.

[thesheriff443]

I think there was every need. I was stating my opinion, which is that I found the post ignorant and insulting.

If someone found me ignorant, insulting or anything else, I wouldn't object to them saying so.

I find the need for you to include the last part, ignorant and insulting.

[lily.]

I find the need for you to include the last part, ignorant and insulting.

And I do not object to you saying so as you are simply stating your opinion. Your opinion is wrong, however, that is irrelevant.

[thesheriff443]

And I do not object to you saying so as you are simply stating your opinion. Your opinion is wrong, however, that is irrelevant.

your comment to Cherie was a needless one!, after a period of time the doctor will want to wean kate off of her medication.

the longer you stay on those meds the greater your dependency will be.

[Livia]

you have a way with words, Cherie never said she was a doctor, if you can do without medication, then you are better off in the long run,
anxiety medication comes with their own problems.

Obviously if you can do without medication then that's best all round. But if a doctor's prescribed them and the person taking them is not a fool, a virtual stranger on the web telling them to wean themselves off just sounds foolish to me.

[lily.]

your comment to Cherie was a needless one!, after a period of time the doctor will want to wean kate off of her medication.

the longer you stay on those meds the greater your dependency will be.

Cherie's comment to Katherine was twice as needless.

Explain to me how it was helpful or contributed anything positive to Katherine's thread.

[Redway]

your comment to Cherie was a needless one!, after a period of time the doctor will want to wean kate off of her medication.

the longer you stay on those meds the greater your dependency will be.

Just as the dependency to insulin and asthma inhalers increases? Or are these somehow different?

[thesheriff443]

Obviously if you can do without medication then that's best all round. But if a doctor's prescribed them and the person taking them is not a fool, a virtual stranger on the web telling them to wean themselves off just sounds foolish to me.

Cherie and kate are not virtual strangers, they know each other far better than you think.

Cherie had kates best interests at heart, she said wean not stop.

[Livia]

Cherie and kate are not virtual strangers, they know each other far better than you think.

Cherie had kates best interests at heart, she said wean not stop.


You know, I'm sure if Cherie has something to say about this, she'll say it. Unless you'd like to crack on for another seven or eight pointless posts, there's nothing on telly till 9pm.

[thesheriff443]

Just as the dependency to insulin and asthma inhalers increases? Or are these somehow different?

these meds mask the true you, they make you feel numb to the world.

with long term use your body will need to keep getting its daily dose,

[Redway]

these meds mask the true you, they make you feel numb to the world.

with long term use your body will need to keep getting its daily dose,

And you know this from what experience?

[thesheriff443]

You know, I'm sure if Cherie has something to say about this, she'll say it. Unless you'd like to crack on for another seven or eight pointless posts, there's nothing on telly till 9pm.

it take two hands to clap, no one has forced you to reply to me.

[Livia]

it take two hands to clap, no one has forced you to reply to me.

Hey, that is a very good point.

Bye.

[thesheriff443]

Hey, that is a very good point.

Bye.

bye livia, always a pleasure.

[Cherie]

That's a bold statement.

Do you know why Katherine is on meds? Do you know what her situation is?

I don't know the answer to either of these questions, which is why I wouldn't suggest she 'wean herself off' anything. Some people require meds to function on a day to day basis. Some people only require them short-term. Everyone's situation is different. But one thing is common.. people who do require meds often wish they didn't.

I find your post ignorant, and insulting.

I think you need to take a chill pill L :laugh:

[lily.]

Hey, that is a very good point.

Bye.

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[lily.]

I think you need to take a chill pill L :laugh:

Sorry, I weaned myself off them already.

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[Cherie]

Cherie and kate are not virtual strangers, they know each other far better than you think.

Cherie had kates best interests at heart, she said wean not stop.

Thank you Sherriff nicely put

[Livia]

Sorry, I weaned myself off them already.

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Gif Queen.

[Cherie]

Sorry, I weaned myself off them already.

http://media.giphy.com/media/mZ9nTPZJjviKY/giphy.gif

Go somewhere else for your argument your comments do not deserve a reply.

[lily.]

Why are you replying then?

[thesheriff443]

Cherie's comment to Katherine was twice as needless.

Explain to me how it was helpful or contributed anything positive to Katherine's thread.

the feelings kate described where down to the medication.

[lily.]

the feelings kate described where down to the medication.


Oh sorry. I didn't know you were a medical professional. You should have mentioned that before.

[Cherie]

the feelings kate described where down to the medication.

I'd be inclined to ignore this particular tag team Sheriff

[thesheriff443]

Gif Queen.

is your tv broken:joker:

[thesheriff443]

Oh sorry. I didn't know you were a medical professional. You should have mentioned that before.

on this subject I know what im talking about.

[lily.]

I'd be inclined to ignore this particular tag team Sheriff

tag team lol. That's ironic.

[chuff me dizzy]

Just as the dependency to insulin and asthma inhalers increases? Or are these somehow different?

Totally different ,Diabetics NEED insulin ( in type a) asthmatics NEED inhalers

[Vicky.]

Totally different ,Diabetics NEED insulin ( in type a) asthmatics NEED inhalers

And a lot of people with anxiety issues NEED their medication too :shrug:

[lily.]

Watch out Vicky.. if you agree with me you'll be included in my imaginary tag-team.






It's totally not imaginary.. you get a badge

[chuff me dizzy]

And a lot of people with anxiety issues NEED their medication too :shrug:

And a lot DONT

[Vicky.]

:laugh2: I would be more inclined to believe the doctor that prescribes them tbh, than a wannabe quack on the internet.

[Kyle]

It can be helpful though Chuff to prescribe SSRI's or SNRI's for people with anxiety disorders.

Sometimes those meds can help people react to exposure therapy or CBT.

[Marsh.]

I'm sensing a bit of animosity on your part Vicky. :think:

[Vicky.]

I'm sensing a bit of animosity on your part Vicky. :think:

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:laugh:

[Redway]

Totally different ,Diabetics NEED insulin ( in type a) asthmatics NEED inhalers

In the same way that people with chronic anxiety need medication. The fact that it's psychological in origin makes it no less real and valid as other medical concerns. Stop being ignorant.

[chuff me dizzy]

It can be helpful though Chuff to prescribe SSRI's or SNRI's for people with anxiety disorders.

Sometimes those meds can help people react to exposure therapy or CBT.

Oh in some case they are amazing ,but one of the easiest ways of getting onto invalidity is bad back or depression, the number of folk around where I live who are on top money because they claim depression is obscene ,even my SIL has been on top money for years claiming shes depressed, when she goes for medical she turns on the tears, never fails, if you NEED them (as some do ) then thats different ,but not everyone does, unlike diabetics who must have insulin

[Vicky.]

Oh joy. As if this thread couldn't get more tragic (not meaning you kate, I mean how its ended up :p ) now its gunna turn into a benefit thread. Only need a bit of 'rarrr muslims' and we should be able to wrap this up.

[chuff me dizzy]

In the same way that people with chronic anxiety need medication. The fact that it's psychological in origin makes it no less real and valid as other medical concerns. Stop being ignorant.

Dont call me ignorant thats a personal attack ,it seems you dont know as much as you wish you did

[Benjamin]

rarrr muslims stole my wife

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh joy. As if this thread couldn't get more tragic (not meaning you kate, I mean how its ended up :p ) now its gunna turn into a benefit thread. Only need a bit of 'rarrr muslims' and we should be able to wrap this up.

Benefit thread ?

[Shaun]

rarrr muslims stole my wife

:hug: I am so sorry

[Benjamin]

:hug: I am so sorry

Thank you :(

[Vicky.]

Benefit thread ?

Seems your problem with people on anti anxiety meds is because of someone you know on invalidity..who happens to be cheating the system. Because of this you seem to have an irrational dislike for meds that help a LOT of people. I may be wrong, but your post about the person you know who is 'putting on' her depression came across much like that...

[chuff me dizzy]

Seems your problem with people on anti anxiety meds is because of someone you know on invalidity..who happens to be cheating the system. Because of this you seem to have an irrational dislike for meds that help a LOT of people. I may be wrong, but your post about the person you know who is 'putting on' her depression came across much like that...

You couldnt be further from the truth Vicky

[Vicky.]

In that case, what was the point in mentioning the invalidity and such and that she acts sad when her medical comes round?

Oh in some case they are amazing ,but one of the easiest ways of getting onto invalidity is bad back or depression, the number of folk around where I live who are on top money because they claim depression is obscene ,even my SIL has been on top money for years claiming shes depressed, when she goes for medical she turns on the tears, never fails, if you NEED them (as some do ) then thats different ,but not everyone does, unlike diabetics who must have insulin

[Cherie]

Kate will be delighted she started this thread, it's been such a help. :laugh:

[Tom4784]

A Muslim once described my performance as Laertes is the classic shakespearean play 'Hamlet' as an 'unforgivable wooden tragedy'.

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[Vicky.]

Kate will be delighted she started this thread, it's been such a help. :laugh:

Hopefully reading through it will send her to sleep tonight without need for the meds. Everybody wins :amazed:

[Kyle]

I don't think Chuff has an issue with people taking Meds tbh Vicky.

Me and chuff get on well outside the forum and she is well aware that I use SSRI's and has never taken issue with it. If she has seen people claiming ESA for mental health issues that they are in fact lying about I'm sure she would have reservations about 'some' people.

[Marsh.]

But what's it got to do with the thread?

[Cherie]

Hopefully reading through it will send her to sleep tonight without need for the meds. Everybody wins :amazed:


.


I do apologise to Redway and Kate if my comments caused any offence. Personally I have to be forced to take a paracetomol, and it would be my worst nightmare to have to take regular meds, I would go out of my way to find an alternative therapy if it were available.

[Vicky.]

.


I do apologise to Redway and Kate if my comments caused any offence. Personally I have to be forced to take a paracetomol, and it would be my worst nightmare to have to take regular meds, I would go out of my way to find an alternative therapy if it were available.

Same here tbh. I take codeine but its not something I have to take all of the time, only when my ribs flare up. Can't imagine being dependent on anything. Docs would have had me hooked on antidepressants a few years back though if I let them..despite them not working for me at all they insisted I keep taking them at a high dose too :umm2:

[Benjamin]

kate just do smack instead

[Cherie]

Same here tbh. I take codeine but its not something I have to take all of the time, only when my ribs flare up. Can't imagine being dependent on anything. Docs would have had me hooked on antidepressants a few years back though if I let them..despite them not working for me at all they insisted I keep taking them at a high dose too :umm2:

That was kinda my point even though I may not have put it across well, pills seem to be handed out like smarties by some GPs and are not always necessary.

[Vicky.]

Yup..unfortunately pills are the easy (and probably cheaper) option a lot of the time rather than tailoring help to people.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't think Chuff has an issue with people taking Meds tbh Vicky.

Me and chuff get on well outside the forum and she is well aware that I use SSRI's and has never taken issue with it. If she has seen people claiming ESA for mental health issues that they are in fact lying about I'm sure she would have reservations about 'some' people.

Got it in one Kyle, some people claim to have things they have not got for monetry gain and pity ,and you know I do not mean you, you are genuine

[mizzy25]

Im on meds for crohns disease id rather not be, but il be on them for life as there is no cure for crohns disease. Nothing to do with the original topic like, just saying.
As for the sleep thing, I once thought id got up, got ready, took all the dogs out for a walk, was just about to sit down to have my breakfast...then I bloody woke up and had to actually do it all s id been dreaming! it was very real.

[Kate!]

Got it in one Kyle, some people claim to have things they have not got for monetry gain and pity ,and you know I do not mean you, you are genuine

Oh dearie me. Let me translate. You mean me Chuff! Quelle surprise. :idc:

FYI. I have a genuine need for anxiety medication, it's trial and error getting the balance right as I have depression and GAD. (Generalised anxiety disorder).

I don't want pity, I was looking for any comments from people who had been/are in similar positions. Of which there are many from what I've read both here and in other threads at one time or another. Anyway, I had another severe episode this afternoon, hence I've not been on the forum all day to catch up with this.

Managed to see on call doc, apparently they think I'm getting too much serotonin so my meds are being reviewed tomorrow. This is the third time lol, hopefully we'll get it right soon please God! I take an SSRI (fluoxetine) and Buspar for anxiety attacks. 5 capsules a day, they are going to try reducing it slightly.

Hoping for a decent sleep tonight.

[Marsh.]

Some people just like focussing on the negative, ignore it.

[Vicky.]

Oh dearie me. Let me translate. You mean me Chuff! Quelle surprise. :idc:

FYI. I have a genuine need for anxiety medication, it's trial and error getting the balance right as I have depression and GAD. (Generalised anxiety disorder).

I don't want pity, I was looking for any comments from people who had been/are in similar positions. Of which there are many from what I've read both here and in other threads at one time or another. Anyway, I had another severe episode this afternoon, hence I've not been on the forum all day to catch up with this.

Managed to see on call doc, apparently they think I'm getting too much serotonin so my meds are being reviewed tomorrow. This is the third time lol, hopefully we'll get it right soon please God! I take an SSRI (fluoxetine) and Buspar for anxiety attacks. 5 capsules a day, they are going to try reducing it slightly.

Hoping for a decent sleep tonight.
This was my inkling too :wink:

[Kate!]

kate just do smack instead

Give me your stash then! :p

This was my inkling too :wink:

;)

[smudgie]

Hope you are feeling better Kate, with a bit of luck they will get your Meds right. :hug:

They do work in the end, all just takes time.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Chill out babes its called lucid dreaming and to be honest once you get control of it its amazing.

Those normal folk don't have this luxury lol.

I have epilepsy so I naturally get it can be quite epic when you have control of it. You can do anything in your dreams and if their lucid you can travel the world but its very very scary the first time you experience them.

I had the strangest dream last week where I was involved in a bomb going off , I was laying on the floor then as I was waking up this weirdly angelic whisper said "Wake up you're suffocating"

I woke up face down on my pillow gasping for air.

Just roll with it its probably gonna get weirder but embrace it ;)

[Me. I Am Salman]

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I wanna do this but there is absolutely no way I can stay still for 20 minutes :laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Meds are not the answer to everything, wean yourself off them.

You cant say that. You're not a qualified doctor.

Meds were invented to help people who suffer with various illnesses.

I was very lucky to get an eeg and diagnosed in days and those meds let me live a normal life for 6 years.

Not all drugs are bad, medics dedicate their lives to cure these problems remember. They are the geeks of society.

[Vicky.]

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I wanna do this but there is absolutely no way I can stay still for 20 minutes :laugh:

You don't need to do this, BUT the other way takes longer.

Edit. Thinking about it a bit more, Im not sure that^ method would work for me at all...

It sounds absolutely ridiculous and you need to be serious about it, but how I learnt was a few times a day (when alone obviously) I would jump 3 times and question in my head if I was dreaming..although I knew I wasn't. I did this for about 5 days or so, and then it started to happen in my dreams (as dreams are usually stuff you have done recently). But when you jump in a dream it feels different..and you kind of..click on. Once you realise you are dreaming, just go with it.

[Cherie]

You cant say that. You're not a qualified doctor.

Meds were invented to help people who suffer with various illnesses.

I was very lucky to get an eeg and diagnosed in days and those meds let me live a normal life for 6 years.

Not all drugs are bad, medics dedicate their lives to cure these problems remember. They are the geeks of society.

Yes they were but we have also overused meds, antibiotics being a case in point. You are not a qualified doctor either so my view is just as valid as yours, and I very much doubt Kate is going to throw her pills down the loo on my say so :laugh: There are other ways to treat mental health issues, counselling, relaxation therapy etc, I just don't thinK throwing pills at a problem helps IN EVERY CASE, that is not to say they don't work well in some situations. Cases should be treated on an individual basis not a one size fits all approach.

[thesheriff443]

Chill out babes its called lucid dreaming and to be honest once you get control of it its amazing.

Those normal folk don't have this luxury lol.

I have epilepsy so I naturally get it can be quite epic when you have control of it. You can do anything in your dreams and if their lucid you can travel the world but its very very scary the first time you experience them.

I had the strangest dream last week where I was involved in a bomb going off , I was laying on the floor then as I was waking up this weirdly angelic whisper said "Wake up you're suffocating"

I woke up face down on my pillow gasping for air.

Just roll with it its probably gonna get weirder but embrace it ;)

biting the pillow dan,:joker:

[Ammi]

Yes they were but we have also overused meds, antibiotics being a case in point. You are not a qualified doctor either so my view is just as valid as yours, and I very much doubt Kate is going to throw her pills down the loo on my say so :laugh: There are other ways to treat mental health issues, counselling, relaxation therapy etc, I just don't thinK throwing pills at a problem helps IN EVERY CASE, that is not to say they don't work well in some situations. Obviously cases should be treated on an individual basis not a one size fits all approach.

..I will say though Cherie that like you, I personally would rather not take medication generally but especially more 'heavy' medication, that's just a personal thing...but from my own experiences recently of people I know and people I also know who work in the mental healthcare system, I know that with cutbacks etc that therapies are not so available and there are huge waiting lists so you're quite lucky to get to see someone quickly or in reasonable time..this is wrong, I feel really strongly about this and that people with anxiety/emotional/stress/mental issues etc are being 'forgotten' almost..I'm not sure that's the right word but anyway, with medication I think that it should be monitored frequently because as someone said, maybe there are times when it is given to someone who may not need it but I think those who also do need it are not monitored to make sure they're taking it etc if that makes sense...people can just stop taking it with no GP advice and that can lead to extremely severe consequences...