I've started watching BBUK2.

[Mystic Mock]

I've got to say a very good start, I like how basic it was back then to how it is nowadays.

Anyway my favourite to least favourite from Launch night.

1. Paul
2. Brian
3. Narinder
4. Bubble
5. Amma
6. Helen
7. Dean
8. Stuart
9. Penny
10. Elizabeth

10 through 8 being ones that I really don't like so far.

[Samm]

BB2 is too old, I watched BB3 but I won't go any older

[Crimson Dynamo]

I loved that series, lol at Bubble in The Office

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Such good memories of that summer and BB2 was a huge part of it :p

Last year of school, all of us used to stay in to watch the evictions with some beers before going out then get back home at 2am kip on the living room floor and watch early morning live feed lol.

Its a rare *funny series but has some really good arguments, enjoy :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember how novel it was to watch them asleep when you were having breakfast

[Mystic Mock]

Such good memories of that summer and BB2 was a huge part of it :p

Last year of school, all of us used to stay in to watch the evictions with some beers before going out then get back home at 2am kip on the living room floor and watch early morning live feed lol.

Its a rare *funny series but has some really good arguments, enjoy :)

Thanks Daniel-Lewis, I think I might watch another one in a minute just to see if my opinions change.

[Marsh.]

BB2 is too old, I watched BB3 but I won't go any older

:pat:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Penny is a goddess; Bubble and Stuart are demons.

The series kinda actually sucks though! There's no plot whatsoever and nothing happens after, like, Week 4. It really might be worse than BB4, the only thing it has going for it is nostalgia.

[Marsh.]

Depends what you mean by "plot"?

[Mystic Mock]

Depends what you mean by "plot"?

Yeah it's not suppose to be TOWIE.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Literally nothing happens and there are no storylines, which is kind of important.

[Marsh.]

"Literally nothing happens", well that's an exaggeration at best and an outright lie at worst.

:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Can someone help me find the 2nd episode of BB2 please? I keep trying to find it but it's nowhere to be seen.

[Marsh.]

Someone's posted it in 3 parts on youtube.

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[Macie Lightfoot]

Well then what happens? The entire second half (and a good amount of the first half too) is just a shapeless mass of micro interactions that are interesting individually, but blur together collectively. There's no forward plot movement at all.

[Mystic Mock]

Someone's posted it in 3 parts on youtube.

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Thanks Marsh, I'll check them out now.

[Marsh.]

There's no forward plot movement at all.

What do you class as a forward plot movement?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Actual storylines and moments and other things BB2 lacks. There's no development because nothing happens, just people talking about house politics despite nothing going on.

[Marsh.]

Actual storylines and moments and other things BB2 lacks. There's no development because nothing happens, just people talking about house politics despite nothing going on.

But, again, you're not being specific. What "story lines" are missing? What is a story to you?

[Macie Lightfoot]

I can't be specific about BB2 storylines because there weren't any. Maybe if you're the one defending BB2 so much (out of nostalgia) you should be the one to mention specifics. After Week 3 or 4 there are no storylines or forward plot movement or anything, it's just a shapeless series of small interactions that are meaningless and forgettable. The only things that can be considered storylines are Brian hating Josh (which is reoccurring at best) and Helen and Paul's relationship (which doesn't even pick up steam until the penultimate week.) HMs like Amma had potential but were flawed, and HMs like Dean and Elizabeth you wonder what they even thought they were auditioning for.

[Marsh.]

Where did I say I like BB2 out of nostalgia?

You're the one making a big fuss and trying to make points so you're the one who is required to back them up.

Your mention of Josh and Brian shows that you need enemies battling throughout Gina and Hazel style or arguments all of the time. Well, BB wasn't all about that at the beginning.

The small moments, the tasks, everything was a bigger focus back then and the big draw.

Give me normal human interaction, seeing how people form friendships etc over arguing for the sake of the camera any day of the week.
Dean and Elizabeth auditioned for the experience, sorely lacking from recent years.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm not making any fuss about it at all, your constant interrogation would imply that you're in fact the one making a fuss.

And me mentioning Josh and Brian doesn't show that I need enemies battling it out through arguments all the time. If you stopped making things up and started to actually read my posts, you'd see that the reason I mentioned them was because Brian hating Josh for daring to be gay or whatever was one of the very few actually storylines in the whole series, and even then it was a recurring storyline at best that didn't have any development or forward plot movement. The second half of BB2 blends together because it's five weeks of meaningless interactions that have no effect on anything. BB4 did a better job of plot movement and having actually, tangible storylines and for that alone it can be considered better than BB2.

[Mystic Mock]

Update on my list after watching a couple of more highlight shows.

1. Paul
2. Narinder
3. Brian
4. Amma
5. Bubble
6. Helen
7. Dean
8. Stuart
9. Penny
10. Elizabeth

[reece(:]

9. Penny


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130427170849/bigbrotheruk/images/9/9f/Stuart_Hosking.jpg

[Marsh.]

:facepalm:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Penny is a goddess of the highest order

[BigSister]

Glad your enjoying bb2 mock.

[Mystic Mock]

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130427170849/bigbrotheruk/images/9/9f/Stuart_Hosking.jpg

Does he get less repulsive? And thanks BigSister, I'll be watching some more in the minute.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Literally nothing happens and there are no storylines, which is kind of important.

Erm there are plenty of storylines.

Penny stalking paul for 2 weeks and freaking the whole nation out lol.

The hate between Amma and Stuart.

The hate between Helen and Narinder.

The first ever innocent and real BB relationship was a huge storyline.

Brian and Josh was an interesting concept seeing as he was the only gay then watching him coping with a more attractive gay male come in and the rivalry between them was good.

I never got bored watching BB2 and if BB15 wasn't starting in a few weeks I would probs watch it again.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Erm there are plenty of storylines.

Penny stalking paul for 2 weeks and freaking the whole nation out lol.

The hate between Amma and Stuart.

The hate between Helen and Narinder.

The first ever innocent and real BB relationship was a huge storyline.

Brian and Josh was an interesting concept seeing as he was the only gay then watching him coping with a more attractive gay male come in and the rivalry between them was good.

I never got bored watching BB2 and if BB15 wasn't starting in a few weeks I would probs watch it again.

Penny stalking Paul for two weeks doesn't even cross my mind as a thing so yeah how great and memorable.

Amma and Stuart's fight was a good moment; it wasn't a storyline.

Again, Helen vs. Narinder was a random moment more or less, not a whole story.

I wouldn't call Helen and Paul innocent since she kinda had a boyfriend, but like I said that didn't even pick up steam until the penultimate week. And it ended then too.

Like I said, Brian vs. Josh was recurring at best.

[Niamh.]

awww I loved BB2 so much, I watched BB1 but BB2 was the one that really got me hooked on Big Brother. Brian Dowling as well :love: Best HM ever

[Mystic Mock]

There is one a-list contestant in this series, the others are good though.

1. Narinder
2. Paul
3. Brian
4. Amma
5. Bubble
6. Helen
7. Penny
8. Stuart
9. Dean
10. Elizabeth

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Penny stalking Paul for two weeks doesn't even cross my mind as a thing so yeah how great and memorable.

Amma and Stuart's fight was a good moment; it wasn't a storyline.

Again, Helen vs. Narinder was a random moment more or less, not a whole story.

I wouldn't call Helen and Paul innocent since she kinda had a boyfriend, but like I said that didn't even pick up steam until the penultimate week. And it ended then too.

Like I said, Brian vs. Josh was recurring at best.

Big Brother doesn't have to have constant storylines its about spontaneous human behaviour.

Arguments can come out of nowhere, housemates can be best friend or in love one minute and hating each other the next. I personally cant stand the focus on a "storyline" throughout a whole series.

I loved last year but the whole Dexter and Callum thing was dragged out I would much rather watch daily highlights where everyday seems fresh.

[Macie Lightfoot]

But for the show to seem fresh there needs to be something happening, and once you get past maybe Week 3 or 4 nothing happened. Almost all of the "moments" you listed happened very early into the season. And I agree that the Dexter/Callum **** got tiring, but that's because there was no forward plot movement at all, it was the same thing over and over again. A storyline with actual development and forward movement really can't be beat in BBUK, it's why seasons like 5, 6, 7, and 13 were so good.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But for the show to seem fresh there needs to be something happening, and once you get past maybe Week 3 or 4 nothing happened. Almost all of the "moments" you listed happened very early into the season. And I agree that the Dexter/Callum **** got tiring, but that's because there was no forward plot movement at all, it was the same thing over and over again. A storyline with actual development and forward movement really can't be beat in BBUK, it's why seasons like 5, 6, 7, and 13 were so good.

We are talking about a series that is 14 years old lol.

And sorry but you don't think BB7 stalled for the last 4 weeks? The rest of the nation did and the producers hence them bringing back ex housemates people paid money to evict *winces.

BB2 was great in 2001 it flowed, had just the right amount of fun, friendships, love interests, arguments and a lot of actual political talk which then was interesting but now is a diary room warning waiting to happen.

BB2 was never slow or uninteresting every episode had stuff going on partly because the episodes were only 25 minutes lol but still I t was a classic series.

So underappreciated.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's not underappreciated at all, everyone loves it solely because of the nostalgia. Watching it back in 2014 it sucks and it can be argued to be worse than BB4. There was no flow because there was nothing to flow. The few arguments there were could easily be counted on one hand and were all in the first few weeks. The only love interests were Paul and Helen, and that didn't even reach a peak until the penultimate week (not to mention that Helen HAD A BOYFRIEND.) The friendships were like, Brian/Narinder and then Dean/Elizabeth, who almost killed the show. The whole thing was a dull mess, especially the second half. Like, let's just take a minute and realize that more things happened in BB4 than BB2.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's not underappreciated at all, everyone loves it solely because of the nostalgia. Watching it back in 2014 it sucks and it can be argued to be worse than BB4. There was no flow because there was nothing to flow. The few arguments there were could easily be counted on one hand and were all in the first few weeks. The only love interests were Paul and Helen, and that didn't even reach a peak until the penultimate week (not to mention that Helen HAD A BOYFRIEND.) The friendships were like, Brian/Narinder and then Dean/Elizabeth, who almost killed the show. The whole thing was a dull mess, especially the second half. Like, let's just take a minute and realize that more things happened in BB4 than BB2.

That's what was so good about it, it took 7 weeks of genuine feelings before they kissed it wasn't just like you get now when they jump into bed and shag.

BB2 is very much more adult in the sense its more political and you have to have the concentration span bigger than a nat to really get into it and not just watch it for BIG "ROCK THE HOUSE " TWISTS.

BB4 was terrible, its not called Big Brother Bore for nothing.

BB4 was at the height of my BB fascination and what I witnessed was dreadful lol.

[Macie Lightfoot]

That's what was so good about it, it took 7 weeks of genuine feelings before they kissed it wasn't just like you get now when they jump into bed and shag.

BB2 is very much more adult in the sense its more political and you have to have the concentration span bigger than a nat to really get into it and not just watch it for BIG "ROCK THE HOUSE " TWISTS.

BB4 was terrible, its not called Big Brother Bore for nothing.

BB4 was at the height of my BB fascination and what I witnessed was dreadful lol.

It wasn't a gradual buildup though like you pretend it was. It went from being a recurring plotline at best to suddenly becoming A Thing in the penultimate week with no real in-between. And there's nothing sophisticated about Helen having a boyfriend outside the house.

You can act as pretentious as you want saying that BB2 was ~more adult~ and whatnot but it was boring. It really wasn't even a political series but you can keep using that word to make it sound sophisticated if you want.

BB4 actually had overarching stories that kept the plot advancing and things actually happened. After Week 3 or 4 of BB2, there's nothing tangible to hold onto. It's just low-level interactions that are somewhat interesting in isolation but painfully blend together when looking at the season as a whole. There's nothing interesting or political about it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It wasn't a gradual buildup though like you pretend it was. It went from being a recurring plotline at best to suddenly becoming A Thing in the penultimate week with no real in-between. And there's nothing sophisticated about Helen having a boyfriend outside the house.

You can act as pretentious as you want saying that BB2 was ~more adult~ and whatnot but it was boring. It really wasn't even a political series but you can keep using that word to make it sound sophisticated if you want.

BB4 actually had overarching stories that kept the plot advancing and things actually happened. After Week 3 or 4 of BB2, there's nothing tangible to hold onto. It's just low-level interactions that are somewhat interesting in isolation but painfully blend together when looking at the season as a whole. There's nothing interesting or political about it.

It wasn't a gradual buildup though like you pretend it was.: Yes it was and it got to the point where BB intervened for the first time and gave them a date in "the den" because the whole of the British public were waiting for them to kiss.


BB4 actually had overarching stories that kept the plot advancing and things actually happened Yes but give examples? What an invaluable forum member you are when whenever you back up your opinion you give no examples.

[Macie Lightfoot]

As for your first point, I recommend you look up the meaning of gradual.

As for your second point, we had actual characters in Jon and Federico, the Africa swap, the bomb scare, Jon's return, the first example of poorly mistreating intruders in The Trials and Tribulations of Lisa Jeynes (who doesn't get enough credit as a HM), Steph and Nush's rivalry, Federico failing at shopping tasks, everyone regretting their nominations for Anouska, etc. BB2 was just a series of micro-interactions that didn't go anywhere. Like, after Week 4 does anyone have a purpose besides Brian and Helen and Paul? Absolutely not.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

As for your first point, I recommend you look up the meaning of gradual.

As for your second point, we had actual characters in Jon and Federico, the Africa swap, the bomb scare, Jon's return, the first example of poorly mistreating intruders in The Trials and Tribulations of Lisa Jeynes (who doesn't get enough credit as a HM), Steph and Nush's rivalry, Federico failing at shopping tasks, everyone regretting their nominations for Anouska, etc. BB2 was just a series of micro-interactions that didn't go anywhere. Like, after Week 4 does anyone have a purpose besides Brian and Helen and Paul? Absolutely not.

Im sorry but were Brian, Helen and Narinder not up to the mammoth characters of BB4?

All the other stuff you mentioned which made the show "enjoyable" were desperate ploys from producers to get viewers who were switching off watching. BB2 didn't have to do that, more people watched.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Dean, Elizabeth, Josh, Amma, and Bubble certainly weren't.

And yes, the bomb scare and things that happened inside of the house like everyone's individual storylines were desperate ploys by the producers :rolleyes: give it a ****ing break. And for what it's worth BB2 and BB4 were almost equal in number of viewers so keep grasping at your straws.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Dean, Elizabeth, Josh, Amma, and Bubble certainly weren't.

And yes, the bomb scare and things that happened inside of the house like everyone's individual storylines were desperate ploys by the producers :rolleyes: give it a ****ing break. And for what it's worth BB2 and BB4 were almost equal in number of viewers so keep grasping at your straws.

LOL but BB4 came after the highest rated BB of all time BB4 averaged 1.6 million less viewers than BB3.

You're grasping at straws.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm not grasping at straws because ~4.5-4.6 million viewers for BB2 is equal to the ~4.6 million viewers for BB4. And that's with the novelty having worn off.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm not grasping at straws because ~4.5-4.6 million viewers for BB2 is equal to the ~4.6 million viewers for BB4. And that's with the novelty having worn off.

The novelty had not worn off at all it had only been 3 years since the show first aired.

BB5 ended up averaging about 5.1 million afterwards which shows how big BB still was.

BB4 was just ****e and im sure in any poll most fans would agree.

[Macie Lightfoot]

"only three years" in case you didn't realize, BBUK is LONG and is an exhausting project to watch. Three years of 64 days is A LOT of viewing and naturally people are going to be tired. Viewership peaks and then goes on a decline, it happens in every show. BB4 managing to pull roughly the same viewership as BB2 two years later really isn't as bad as you try to make it out to be. And you're not even getting my point right, at all. I said that the argument can be made that BB2 was worse than BB4 based on the fact that absolutely nothing happened, especially in the second half. Your desperate attempts to factor in viewership and fan polls ("I'm right because most people agree with me!!!!!11" like no) don't change that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

"only three years" in case you didn't realize, BBUK is LONG and is an exhausting project to watch. Three years of 64 days is A LOT of viewing and naturally people are going to be tired. Viewership peaks and then goes on a decline, it happens in every show. BB4 managing to pull roughly the same viewership as BB2 two years later really isn't as bad as you try to make it out to be. And you're not even getting my point right, at all. I said that the argument can be made that BB2 was worse than BB4 based on the fact that absolutely nothing happened, especially in the second half. Your desperate attempts to factor in viewership and fan polls ("I'm right because most people agree with me!!!!!11" like no) don't change that.

Ok then BB4 came after a smash hit year which drew in 10 million viewers for the final yet only averaged slightly higher than BB2.

The figures speak for themselves, people were bored so they switched off.

Anyway this isn't about whats better BB4 or BB2 its the BB2 forum so lets get over your weird obsession with BB4 and get back on topic.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ok then BB4 came after a smash hit year which drew in 10 million viewers for the final yet only averaged slightly higher than BB2.

The figures speak for themselves, people were bored so they switched off.

Anyway this isn't about whats better BB4 or BB2 its the BB2 forum so lets get over your weird obsession with BB4 and get back on topic.

It's extremely moronic to compare viewing figures from a finale to average viewing figures or another season.

and lol at,

me: *makes a simple statement comparing BB2 to BB4*
you: support your argument! you're an awful poster if you don't!
me: *supports simple statement made earlier*
you: get back on topic, you're obsessed!

:joker:

[Niamh.]

Jeez Troy I understand that you may not have liked BB2 but why are you so hell bent in trying to convince other people that they didn't either? :laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Jeez Troy I understand that you may not have liked BB2 but why are you so hell bent in trying to convince other people that they didn't either? :laugh:

Here here lol.

[Mystic Mock]

I haven't watched any highlights yet today, but does Helen get more interesting as the weeks go on as an individual? Because so far she seems like a nice girl but extremely dull.

[Marsh.]

Jeez Troy I understand that you may not have liked BB2 but why are you so hell bent in trying to convince other people that they didn't either? :laugh:

You don't like it Niamh, you only think you do. It's only a matter of time before you realise that BB4 was the pinnacle of Big Brother and your favourite.

I haven't watched any highlights yet today, but does Helen get more interesting as the weeks go on as an individual? Because so far she seems like a nice girl but extremely dull.

:laugh: She's ditzy in an amusing way. But compared to a lot of recent "ditzy" housemates, she's Einstein.

[Niamh.]

You don't like it Niamh, you only think you do. It's only a matter of time before you realise that BB4 was the pinnacle of Big Brother and your favourite.

Oh right yes you're right, sorry about that



:laugh: She's ditzy in an amusing way. But compared to a lot of recent "ditzy" housemates, she's Einstein.

***She's not pretending to be ditzy like they do now

[Mystic Mock]

I'm trying to get her but I just can't at the minute, maybe she will get better who knows.

[Niamh.]

aww I loved Helen, where are you watching these btw Mock?

[Mystic Mock]

aww I loved Helen, where are you watching these btw Mock?

On Youtube.

If you have any trouble finding the links then I'll give you one if you're interested.

Anyway another update after watching the next highlight show.

1. Narinder
2. Paul
3. Brian
4. Amma
5. Bubble
6. Helen
7. Stuart (I don't like him but tbf he does more than the other three)
8. Penny
9. Dean
10. Elizabeth

[Niamh.]

On Youtube.

If you have any trouble finding the links then I'll give you one if you're interested.

Anyway another update after watching the next highlight show.

1. Narinder
2. Paul
3. Brian
4. Amma
5. Bubble
6. Helen
7. Stuart (I don't like him but tbf he does more than the other three)
8. Penny
9. Dean
10. Elizabeth

I think I'm going to rewatch it as well

[Macie Lightfoot]

Stuart does not do more than Penny, that's the biggest lie in this thread

[Macie Lightfoot]

Jeez Troy I understand that you may not have liked BB2 but why are you so hell bent in trying to convince other people that they didn't either? :laugh:

I said that BB2 kinda sucked and nothing happened and then I had people jumping down my throat telling me to explain myself, so I did.

[Marsh.]

I find it hard remembering when I actually liked Narinder and her friendship with Brian.

Nowdays I can't stand her. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

I said that BB2 kinda sucked and nothing happened and then I had people jumping down my throat telling me to explain myself, so I did.

Nobody jumped down your throat, people merely asked for more specifics on what you didn't like because you made a couple of vague statements about "plot movement". The discussion then went in another direction when you made the comment that people only like it due to nostalgia.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The statements I made weren't any less vague than the series in question was itself; BB2 lacking forward plot movement and any sort of development is kind of commonplace when discussing BB2.

The conversation turned in a different direction when I said that the argument COULD be made (not even that I agree with it) that BB4 had more going on than BB2 and thus could be seen as better. But apparently it's ludicrous to give BB4 any credit despite the fact that most of the vocal BB4 haters haven't seen it since it aired it haven't even seen it.

[Marsh.]

The statements I made weren't any less vague than the series in question was itself; BB2 lacking forward plot movement and any sort of development is kind of commonplace when discussing BB2.

I merely asked you what you meant by lack of plot or plot movement because to me it was vague and not actually explaining much.

Nobody jumped down your throat, at least I didn't, I asked a question about what you posted.


The conversation turned in a different direction when I said that the argument COULD be made (not even that I agree with it) that BB4 had more going on than BB2 and thus could be seen as better. But apparently it's ludicrous to give BB4 any credit despite the fact that most of the vocal BB4 haters haven't seen it since it aired it haven't even seen it.

Well, I didn't have the conversation about BB4 with you, another poster did but I was referring to this comment you made to me...

I can't be specific about BB2 storylines because there weren't any. Maybe if you're the one defending BB2 so much (out of nostalgia)

Assuming the only reason I like it is due to nostalgia, which is ridiculous.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So ridiculous that you started talking about the nostalgic appeal right after!

[Marsh.]

So ridiculous that you started talking about the nostalgic appeal right after!

You started having a debate with daniel lewis right after so you're either getting us mixed up or you imagined it.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Where did I say I like BB2 out of nostalgia?

You're the one making a big fuss and trying to make points so you're the one who is required to back them up.

Your mention of Josh and Brian shows that you need enemies battling throughout Gina and Hazel style or arguments all of the time. Well, BB wasn't all about that at the beginning.

The small moments, the tasks, everything was a bigger focus back then and the big draw.

Give me normal human interaction, seeing how people form friendships etc over arguing for the sake of the camera any day of the week.
Dean and Elizabeth auditioned for the experience, sorely lacking from recent years.

#mixedup ~~~

[Marsh.]

#mixedup ~~~

:conf: I wasn't going on about nostalgia.

I was talking about how I prefer Big Brother to be about a group of stranger getting to know one another. The live feeds watching them having long conversations.

Not the overflow "story lines" and constant bitching and arguing. Staging and blowing things out of proportion for the cameras.

The same went for last summer. I loved the small amount of live feed we'd get, watching the housemates settle down after an eviction and discuss the night's/or the previous week's events.

That's not nostalgia, that's a preference of what I'd like to see in the highlights show.

Telling me I only like BB2 because of nostalgia, is because I'm remembering 2001 and only like it because of how everything was back in 2001. Romanticising the past by forgetting the bad parts. Or having some strong personal affinity with that time. I don't, I barely remember 2001.

It isn't. It's how I prefer the show in 2014 too.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well good luck then because the show hasn't been like that in a while and it won't be :joker:

[Marsh.]

Well good luck then because the show hasn't been like that in a while and it won't be :joker:

Yes, I'm quite aware. Hence I've voiced my hatred of many elements of current BB many times.

Do keep up. ;)

But every now and then we're able to watch housemates engage in conversation. They just need to set the casting net wider than a pool of good looking, brainless models who have no social skills.

[BigSister]

Mock regarding helen after the first 2 weeks I would say yes she does get better

[Mystic Mock]

I find it hard remembering when I actually liked Narinder and her friendship with Brian.

Nowdays I can't stand her. :laugh:

Narinder's a strange one, she's likeable around Brian but horrible around everyone else lol, yet I still find her the most fascinating one in there.

[Mystic Mock]

Mock regarding helen after the first 2 weeks I would say yes she does get better

Ok thanks BigSister, I hope you're right as I'm not getting how she manages to beat Paul by such a landslide and get 2 million votes against Brian.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well good luck then because the show hasn't been like that in a while and it won't be :joker:

I don't get what type of point you're tying to make and I think you have been waffling on for so long now neither do you.

Why not get back to discussing what the OP meant and discuss the fact they are watching BB2.

Gotta say I like hearing the opinions of BB fans who watch the earlier Big Brothers for the first time as a lot of the younger members have an opinion of BB1/2 as boring so wont watch them.

Got Patrick to watch BB3 and its one of his top series now hope your enjoying the series op :)

[LikeABoatOnWater]

BB2 was amazing, top 5 for sure.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't get what type of point you're tying to make and I think you have been waffling on for so long now neither do you.

Why not get back to discussing what the OP meant and discuss the fact they are watching BB2.

Gotta say I like hearing the opinions of BB fans who watch the earlier Big Brothers for the first time as a lot of the younger members have an opinion of BB1/2 as boring so wont watch them.

Got Patrick to watch BB3 and its one of his top series now hope your enjoying the series op :)

I haven't been waffling on at all, you and Marsh just bore me that's all. And first you were asking me to explain myself further and now you're telling me to get back on topic, you can't have it both ways. So with that said, I don't get what point you're trying to make (or why you even posted.)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I haven't been waffling on at all, you and Marsh just bore me that's all. And first you were asking me to explain myself further and now you're telling me to get back on topic, you can't have it both ways. So with that said, I don't get what point you're trying to make (or why you even posted.)

If we bore you so much then leave and stop commenting.

[Niamh.]

Started rewatching aswell, I'm on Day 3 atm, I love how basic it all was back then and how innocent and not fame *****s all the HMs were. Really enjoying it

[Macie Lightfoot]

If we bore you so much then leave and stop commenting.

lolz someone's desperate to have the last word

[Marsh.]

you and Marsh just bore me that's all.

:joker:

God forbid people try to have a discussion with you. The ignore list is handy if you have any problems. :xyxwave:

[Macie Lightfoot]

No problems at all! The discussion just wasn't going anywhere

[Mystic Mock]

I don't get what type of point you're tying to make and I think you have been waffling on for so long now neither do you.

Why not get back to discussing what the OP meant and discuss the fact they are watching BB2.

Gotta say I like hearing the opinions of BB fans who watch the earlier Big Brothers for the first time as a lot of the younger members have an opinion of BB1/2 as boring so wont watch them.

Got Patrick to watch BB3 and its one of his top series now hope your enjoying the series op :)

I'm enjoying it very much thanks for asking Daniel-Lewis-1985.

I didn't watch any yesterday but I'm going to be watching some in the minute.

[Mystic Mock]

Started rewatching aswell, I'm on Day 3 atm, I love how basic it all was back then and how innocent and not fame *****s all the HMs were. Really enjoying it

Have you changed your opinions on anyone so far?

[BigSister]

Niamh I agree with you on how basic it was back then but somehow it was still watchable. One of my fave moments ever came from BB2
When I return from holiday i might start rewatching too
And Daniel BB3 is my second fave series

[Mystic Mock]

I've got to say that Bubble's sob story is really doing my head in at the minute.

Updated list.
1. Narinder
2. Brian
3. Paul
4. Amma
5. Helen
6. Penny
7. Stuart
8. Dean
9. Bubble
10. Elizabeth

[BigSister]

I like that Elizabeth is your least fave Mock she was mine too
Also when I watched first Narinder annoyed me so much. But looking back she was a good housemate

[Mystic Mock]

I like that Elizabeth is your least fave Mock she was mine too
Also when I watched first Narinder annoyed me so much. But looking back she was a good housemate

Yeah Elizabeth makes Rachel Rice look entertaining and that's saying a lot as I really didn't like Rachel Rice.

And Narinder is the star for me, there is other good HM's in there as well but she just has that presence about her that the others don't have imo.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Rachel Rice <3333333333 Elizabeth kinda sucked at first but she grew on me over time, even though she doesn't really change.

[Cal.]

Is this a good series? Everybody always raves about this and BB6. I don't rate BB6 that highly so I don't know whether to give this ago, especially since it aired 13 years ago. I always said Big Brother 5 would be as old as I would go.

[Niamh.]

Have you changed your opinions on anyone so far?

No I always loved Brian and Narinder and Helen as well

[Niamh.]

Is this a good series? Everybody always raves about this and BB6. I don't rate BB6 that highly so I don't know whether to give this ago, especially since it aired 13 years ago. I always said Big Brother 5 would be as old as I would go.

It's my favourite series anyway. It is completely different to the later series but I like that about it, it's much less about fame hungry wannabes and more about a social experiment and their interactions with eachother. Also for me Brian Dowling was just the best HM of all time and this series is what made me love BB so much

[BigSister]

What Niamh said. And they are normal but not boing

[Macie Lightfoot]

Is this a good series? Everybody always raves about this and BB6. I don't rate BB6 that highly so I don't know whether to give this ago, especially since it aired 13 years ago. I always said Big Brother 5 would be as old as I would go.

My thoughts have been well-documented in this thread about how nothing happens past Week 4 and the cast really isn't all that, but if this is going to be your first "old school" (1-4) BBUK series I'd suggest starting with BB1, which holds up surprisingly well. You have to approach viewing BB1-4 differently and it takes some getting used to and I think BB1 is probably the best one to start with just to get used to watching the old series.

[Marsh.]

Is this a good series? Everybody always raves about this and BB6. I don't rate BB6 that highly so I don't know whether to give this ago, especially since it aired 13 years ago. I always said Big Brother 5 would be as old as I would go.

If you didn't understand the fuss about BB6, I would advise not to watch any pre-BB5 as you may not like them. They're very different in tone and focus from later series.

It's worth giving it a go. Maybe watch the launch and a couple of highlights shows to see how you get on.

[Cal.]

If you didn't understand the fuss about BB6, I would advise not to watch any pre-BB5 as you may not like them. They're very different in tone and focus from later series.

It's worth giving it a go. Maybe watch the launch and a couple of highlights shows to see how you get on.

Big Brother 5 is my favourite series, does that change anything?

[Cal.]

My thoughts have been well-documented in this thread about how nothing happens past Week 4 and the cast really isn't all that, but if this is going to be your first "old school" (1-4) BBUK series I'd suggest starting with BB1, which holds up surprisingly well. You have to approach viewing BB1-4 differently and it takes some getting used to and I think BB1 is probably the best one to start with just to get used to watching the old series.

Thanks. :)

[BigSister]

I would say if you prefer the newer ones or the ones that got wacker people (BB5 onwards) then you might not like it. Like BB1 its more of a social experiment but if your intested in how BB started then its a good watch. But its up to you

[Marsh.]

Big Brother 5 is my favourite series, does that change anything?

Not really. That was a big changing point for BB.

I mean, if you don't mind a more simplified, basic and subdued BB?

[Cal.]

Not really. That was a big changing point for BB.

I mean, if you don't mind a more simplified, basic and subdued BB?

Hmm, I've seen clips from Big Brother 1. Didn't like its style but I think I'll give it a go.

[Mystic Mock]

Is this a good series? Everybody always raves about this and BB6. I don't rate BB6 that highly so I don't know whether to give this ago, especially since it aired 13 years ago. I always said Big Brother 5 would be as old as I would go.

BB2 has a much nicer bunch of HM's, and I think you might like some of the female Housemates in the series as they are quite outgoing.

Btw wtf with Stuart staring at Penny while she was doing the dishes?:umm2: And I like Paul but the highlights only seem to be showing him when his with Helen at the minute which is quite sad as his quite funny when his with the other Housemates.

Anyway my updated list.
1. Narinder
2. Brian
3. Amma
4. Paul
5. Penny (I don't want her to leave lol)
6. Helen
7. Dean
8. Stuart
9. Bubble
10. Elizabeth

[BigSister]

haha I don't remember Stuart staring at penny while she was doing the dishes

[Marsh.]

I don't remember Stuart/Penny, I just remember Amma vs Stuart when she was screaming at the top of her lungs.

[BigSister]

Spoliers hehe ^_^

[Mystic Mock]

haha I don't remember Stuart staring at penny while she was doing the dishes

I'll try and get a picture of it.

I can't get it at the minute but it was disturbing.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't remember Stuart/Penny, I just remember Amma vs Stuart when she was screaming at the top of her lungs.

I haven't got to that yet but I'm looking forward to it.

[Marsh.]

D: Sorry Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

D: Sorry Mock.

Haha don't worry I already knew about it before ever watching BB2 anyway.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't remember Stuart/Penny, I just remember Amma vs Stuart when she was screaming at the top of her lungs.

Stuart/Penny was like the whole first week. Long live Penny <3

[Mystic Mock]

Well I've just watched Penny's eviction, quite disgusting how the whole episode seemed to favour Helen over Penny by a mile and that everybody in the crowd seemed to be a Bubble or Brian fan.

Anyway my opinion on the Housemates now Penny's gone.
1. Narinder
2. Brian
3. Amma
4. Paul
5. Stuart (I know his going this week lol)
6. Helen
7. Dean
8. Bubble
9. Elizabeth

I am interested to see why Helen and Bubble was so popular? Helen's dull and Bubble is irritating.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Bubble is irritating and it won't get any better

[Mystic Mock]

Some fascinating moments happened today, Bubble pretending not to be angry at Brian for pranking Bubble back by stealing Bubble's hats, and Helen making Penny's eviction all about herself.

Anyway my updated list.
1. Narinder
2. Brian
3. Amma
4. Paul
5. Stuart
6. Dean
7. Helen
8. Bubble
9. Elizabeth (is she Human?)