Voting Today (Thursday 22nd) UK make sure you do

[arista]

Voting Today
for Some Local and some MEP's for Europe.

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Now You must vote
or you are part of the Problem.
Most places open at 7AM
until late.


If you have a voting card take it with you
so the people struggling with lists get a easy ride.
You do not have to take it, of course.


Life In The City

[arista]

I voted
very easy to do just one X

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[joeysteele]

I fear looking at the reports of weather across the UK that there will likely be a low turnout again.

I will of course be voting.Really effective opening posts arista, good one.

[Nedusa]

Remember to register your protest today by voting UKIP otherwise Govt's will continue to sell this Country down the river.

Planned future EU directives

More EU law incl Human Rights Bill (Terrorists freedom Charter)
More of our Taxes to Brussels
Planned EU Army
Planned EU Direct taxation for EU Federal Govt
Unlimited Immigration from all EU Countries + possibly also Turkey in 5-10 years time

We might as well just close down Westminster and accept direct rule from Brussels

The people who fought and died in two World Wars to keep this country independent and free would turn in their graves if they could see what has happened to the UK in the last 40 years.

[Jack_]

A vote for UKIP is not a protest vote, spoiling your ballot paper is. Like seriously, draw a cock on it...it'd be more worthwhile than voting for Farage's cronies

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[Jack_]

Oh and

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[arista]

I fear looking at the reports of weather across the UK that there will likely be a low turnout again.

I will of course be voting.Really effective opening posts arista, good one.



Its Easy
just One "X"


Nothing Complex

[arista]

A vote for UKIP is not a protest vote, spoiling your ballot paper is. Like seriously, draw a cock on it...it'd be more worthwhile than voting for Farage's cronies

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[Black Dagger]

Remember to register your protest today by voting UKIP otherwise Govt's will continue to sell this Country down the river.

Planned future EU directives

More EU law incl Human Rights Bill (Terrorists freedom Charter)
More of our Taxes to Brussels
Planned EU Army
Planned EU Direct taxation for EU Federal Govt
Unlimited Immigration from all EU Countries + possibly also Turkey in 5-10 years time

We might as well just close down Westminster and accept direct rule from Brussels

The people who fought and died in two World Wars to keep this country independent and free would turn in their graves if they could see what has happened to the UK in the last 40 years.

No thanks, you're quite alright.

[Saph]

I cant be bothered

[MTVN]

Gonna head down the polls this afternoon, will vote in the Euro ones but not the local

[joeysteele]

Its Easy
just One "X"


Nothing Complex

It is simple arista, sadly a good number of people look for any reason to say they didn't bother voting and when the weather is unpleasant, that is the main one.
I really doubt we are going to learn a great deal today from these elections.

In the general election, all parties will be getting far more airtime while the run up to these elections today have seen UKIP plastered,good and bad, over the TV screens for weeks.

I expect UKIP will however do very well indeed.
Also if Labour gain more than 200 council seats and the Consersvatives lose same, although that is hardly a great move,it would represent that no way will the Conservatives win the 2015 election on such figures.

Sorry Nedusa,I love your posts and agree a great deal of the time with you as you know but I could never vote UKIP, I am firmly a supporter of the EU even with it's faults and I recall my Grandfather saying to me that in his view the EU was a good thing too,he saw the 2nd world war as a hopefully final means to end wars in Europe for good.
In his view, the EU has helped that process in the joining of Nations together.
A different take on why such wars were fought but for me I cannot support anti EU parties.

I certainly also don't want any referendum on the EU until we are 100% sure of getting the full info as to the EU,(the great benefits from it as well as the unpopular things too,fairly debated and relayed by the media and govt.to us), which could have us sleepwalk out of the EU.

[Kyle]

Guess I'm part of the problem then cos I'm not voting. Politics is a snakes game I don't trust a single one of them.

[arista]

I cant be bothered


You are the Problem

[Livia]

Of course I will be voting. People died for me to have the right to vote... and I believe if I don't vote, I have no right to moan.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A vote for UKIP is not a protest vote, spoiling your ballot paper is. Like seriously, draw a cock on it...it'd be more worthwhile than voting for Farage's cronies

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Yes wise words from a crap comedian

Brilliant

[Crimson Dynamo]

I got a personal call from the SNP last night to remind me to vote today and Alex wrote me a letter.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

What are we voting for?

[Niamh.]

Of course I will be voting. People died for me to have the right to vote... and I believe if I don't vote, I have no right to moan.

Yep, my sentiments also

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are we voting for?

Ill monkey for mep

[Livia]

What are we voting for?

For the people you think will best represent British interests in Europe.

[Brother Leon]

**** them all.

[Nedusa]

A vote for UKIP is not a protest vote, spoiling your ballot paper is. Like seriously, draw a cock on it...it'd be more worthwhile than voting for Farage's cronies

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Really..........600 years of democracy people (women) dying to get the vote and your answer is not to vote but rather to spoil your Ballot paper by drawing a cock on it.

How old are you ?

[arista]

What are we voting for?


People like you makes
me want you must Vote or go to prison
and box for no one, option

[arista]

**** them all.


No
its Your Future

[Shaun]

my poll house is literally next door :laugh: popped round in my pyjamas i did :dazzler:

[arista]

my poll house is literally next door :laugh: popped round in my pyjamas i did :dazzler:


Spunky

[arista]

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[Brother Leon]

No
its Your Future

None of them represent "my future" though..I'm not voting for the sake of voting when it makes me feel sick to support any of them.

[arista]

None of them represent "my future" though..I'm not voting for the sake of voting when it makes me feel sick to support any of them.


What


There is 14 or 20 choices


Fecking Vote
Its your Duty.


If we go into WW3
people like you will be kept hidden
never able to vote

[Brother Leon]

What


There is 14 or 20 choices


Fecking Vote
Its your Duty.


If we go into WW3
people like you will be kept hidden
never able to vote

Fecking no x

[Jack_]

Really..........600 years of democracy people (women) dying to get the vote and your answer is not to vote but rather to spoil your Ballot paper by drawing a cock on it.

How old are you ?

Congratulations on missing my point completely :pat:

I'm 19 and I voted Green this morning, my point is that a vote for UKIP is not a protest vote, spoiling your ballot paper is. What I said was that turning up and drawing a cock on it would be more worthwhile of a protest than voting for Nigel Farage and his minions. I didn't do that because I'm not trying to make a statement or engage in some kind of political protest, but if you are then spoiling your ballot paper would be much more effective than voting for a party which are, quite frankly, disgraceful.

Guess I'm part of the problem then cos I'm not voting. Politics is a snakes game I don't trust a single one of them.

None of them represent "my future" though..I'm not voting for the sake of voting when it makes me feel sick to support any of them.

You don't have to vote for anyone, but at least turn up and spoil your ballot. That's the protest. Turnout figures go up, as do the number of spoiled ballots...what does that say about people's attitudes towards politicians in 2014? I don't understand how people can't see this. If you want to protest and you don't like modern politics and political figures then that's fine and actually totally understandable, but at least turn up so you're counted but can stick it to them by saying 'no, none of you are appealing'

[MTVN]

Gonna head down the polls this afternoon, will vote in the Euro ones but not the local

Ended up voting in both after the old boy down the polling station got annoyed with me for only telling him I wasnt planning to vote in the locals after he gave me my ballot, said I had to do something with it now and didnt want to spoil it

[joeysteele]

Ended up voting in both after the old boy down the polling station got annoyed with me for only telling him I wasnt planning to vote in the locals after he gave me my ballot, said I had to do something with it now and didnt want to spoil it

They can get rather irritated can't they.:hugesmile:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Me and devil dog just voted!

[Jordan.]

I've had better things to do like sitting and watching everything on my planner

[Vicky.]

Just been along to vote. Makes me feel so grown up :laugh:

Mine and Gavs votes cancel each other out though really so no need for us to do it but we still did.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just been along to vote. Makes me feel so grown up :laugh:

Mine and Gavs votes cancel each other out though really so no need for us to do it but we still did.

I am sure BNP and Britain First will be grateful you both went

:suspect:

[arista]

Just been along to vote. Makes me feel so grown up :laugh:

Mine and Gavs votes cancel each other out though really so no need for us to do it but we still did.



Thats the Spirit Vicky

[Crimson Dynamo]

But no Euro results till SUnday

[arista]

I've had better things to do like sitting and watching everything on my planner


No this is Your Future

[MTVN]

tsk is Dimbleby just giving us local election results tonight then?

[Vicky.]

I thought we were only voting for the euros D:

[MTVN]

Only some places had local ones I think, depends where you are. Seem to have them in Norwich every year but that might be cos its a city council we're electing :think:

[Vicky.]

Ah right, dont think ours was a local one then..sure we had one not long ago and for the locals we tend to have about 4 labour options, 2 conservatives, and one of others. Today we only had a choice of 6 parties, one for each

[arista]

tsk is Dimbleby just giving us local election results tonight then?


Yes first 8PM recording Question Time in Radlet
near Big Brother studio
then back to BBC London W1 Base
for a
all nighter.


If Lightning does not hit his Car

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes first 8PM recording Question Time in Radlet
near Big Brother studio
then back to BBC London W1 Base
for a
all nighter.


If Lightning does not hit his Car

a car is the safest place to be during an electrical storm

[reece(:]

Voted:dazzler:

when are the results revealed?:huh:

[Samm]

No this is Your Future

I don't see how it is every time one off these things happen nothing changes :laugh:

[Black Dagger]

Done :dance:

[arista]

a car is the safest place to be during an electrical storm


If his Driver is sober?

[arista]

Voted:dazzler:

when are the results revealed?:huh:


morning
some tonight
and others in a day or 2
due to the MEP Euro Gravy Zone

[Jack_]

Voted:dazzler:

when are the results revealed?:huh:

Depends what you voted in...European election, local council one or both?

The Euro votes won't be counted until the weekend, the local ones begin the count after the polls close at 10pm and good old Dimbleby will be live with results throughout the night on BBC1 :pipe:

[reece(:]

Depends what you voted in...European election, local council one or both?

The Euro votes won't be counted until the weekend, the local ones begin the count after the polls close at 10pm and good old Dimbleby will be live with results throughout the night on BBC1 :pipe:
idk what I voted in :worry: how do you know? :worry:

[Jack_]

I don't see how it is every time one off these things happen nothing changes :laugh:

To be fair that's because most of the recent elections over the last few years have been council ones or today's European Parliament one, unless you go actively looking any changes aren't particularly noticeable and so really this vote is more about gauging levels of support for different parties ahead of next year. It's the General Election that counts the most

[Crimson Dynamo]

idk what I voted in :worry: how do you know? :worry:

:facepalm:

[arista]

I don't see how it is every time one off these things happen nothing changes :laugh:


It does Change


There is more to life.


Its you chance to kick the power in the Teeth
by voting for other groups

[MTVN]

If you were given one voting slip it will have been for Euros, if two one of them will be locals, they should make clear to you which is which

[Jack_]

idk what I voted in :worry: how do you know? :worry:

:laugh:

Erm, do you still have your poll card(s)? It'll say on there

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[Crimson Dynamo]

idk what I voted in :worry: how do you know? :worry:

Are you sure you did not go into your local Spar and get a Euromillions?

[reece(:]

Members of the European Parliament for the North East region :pipe:

[Jack_]

:p hope you voted for a decent party :suspect:

Also for anyone not totally clued up on how the Euro election works, this is quite helpful and came in handy for me when getting info myself the other night

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27039093

What's happening on Thursday?

There are local council elections in England and Northern Ireland - but the big one this year is the European election on the same day. It is the only time outside of a general election when all 46 million voters can take part. The European Parliament is the only directly elected institution in the European Union. So this is your chance to decide who represents you in Brussels and Strasbourg (Yes, they still shuttle between the two parliament buildings at regular intervals).

Why do the European elections matter?

It is often ignored by the British media, but the European Parliament has a growing influence over our daily lives. It can not originate laws just revise or block legislation from the unelected European Commission, but it has more power than it used to, particularly in areas like consumer protection, the environment - such as the genetically modified crops German Greens are protesting against in the above picture. Nobody wins the European elections - there are no government and opposition benches like at Westminster. But the make-up of the new Parliament is likely to have a decisive influence on the future direction of the EU - particularly if, as expected, there is a large block of Eurosceptic MEPs. In the UK, the result can have a big impact on a party's mood and their leader's prospects ahead of the 2015 general election. Check out their election broadcasts to get a feel for how they are pitching it.

So how does the European voting system work, exactly?

Britain is one of eight countries - including Germany and France - to use a "closed list" system. So you vote for a party, rather than an individual. The parties themselves decide who goes on the candidate list for each of the 12 electoral regions. The ones at the top stand the best chance of being elected. The way seats are allocated within each European constituency uses the D'hondt system., which is a form of proportional representation.

[Livia]

Voted:dazzler:

when are the results revealed?:huh:

British votes are verified tomorrow and the count takes place late on Sunday.

[Jack_]

As well as my last post, if you're interested in how seats in the European Parliament are allocated based upon your regional results, here's King Jeremy Vine to explain all:

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As confusing as it is...I actually understood it :flutter:

[arista]

Jack

"hope you voted for a decent party"

you do not know who is decent
who the feck are you to say.


A Vote for Any Party
is better than nothing

[Jack_]

Be quiet arista

[reece(:]

Votes for BNP/UKIP are not better than nothing :umm2:

[Samm]

Votes for BNP/UKIP are not better than nothing :umm2:

.

[arista]

Be quiet arista


You need a Slap

[Livia]

Jack, some interesting stuff there. Nice of you to post it.

[Kizzy]

Voted :)

[arista]

Voted :)


Good On You.



so many on this site never bother
sadly

[Crimson Dynamo]

im giving shade to the cant be arsed on tibb

[Cherie]

im giving shade to the cant be arsed on tibb

spill that truth tea <3

[Jack_]

Vote 2014 has begun on BBC1 :spin2:

Jack, some interesting stuff there. Nice of you to post it.

You're welcome! :)

[reece(:]

Vote 2014 has begun on BBC1 :spin2:



You're welcome! :)
Watching now :dazzler:

[reece(:]

Sunderland, voting loads of UKIPs .. I live around there :bored:

[Jack_]

This studio looks like the 2010 one

Jeremy's green screen graphics and Emily's touchscreen results make election nights for me :dazzler:

[reece(:]

oohhh so this is for Local Elections


I get confused between the two

[Jack_]

Yeah, Euro results are on Sunday because other EU nations are holding their part in this election over the next few days

Vote 2014 [Sunday from 11pm - 3am]

David Dimbleby presents live coverage as the votes are counted in the European ballots. Emily Maitlis has news of the individual results as they come in from each nation and region of Great Britain, while Jeremy Vine's virtual-reality graphics will both reveal and analyse the results from the other 27 nations in the European Union. Regional teams will be at the most important counts and international correspondents have the latest from around Europe.

Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cwmmcv/vote-2014--vote-2014---europe)

[reece(:]

What does the councillors bar mean, is that seats? How many are available :o

[Me. I Am Salman]

but sky news > bbc ;/

[Jack_]

What does the councillors bar mean, is that seats? How many are available :o

Yeah, each local council is split up into wards (towns) and whoever has the most votes within them gets a seat in the council, a party has to reach a certain number of seats within a council to secure an overall majority. It works similar to electing MP's to the House of Commons

I think as more actual overall council results are revealed, that bar will change to count council results rather than councillors

Think David just said 2400 seats are up for grabs nationally

[Jack_]

Sky D: ew no, David, Jeremy and Emily, the BBC graphics and studio > the irrelevances on a Murdoch news channel

This is disappointing Salman

[reece(:]

I found this so interesting,don't usually watch these things either.

Will definitely be keeping checked up next year.

Who are "IND"?

[Jack_]

What a frightening figure that voting intention is D:

[Jack_]

I found this so interesting,don't usually watch these things either.

Will definitely be keeping checked up next year.

Who are "IND"?

Should definitely watch the General Election coverage next year, I was 15 when I watched it first time and stayed up till like 5am on a school night LOL. I've been excited for the next one ever since :spin2: it's a great night and more of an event/more important than other elections

IND means independent, i.e they're standalone candidates that belong to no party

[MTVN]

Urgh why have they got Grant and Chuka on here, the two biggest party nodding dogs out there

[reece(:]

Should definitely watch the General Election coverage next year, I was 15 when I watched it first time and stayed up till like 5am on a school night LOL. I've been excited for the next one ever since :spin2: it's a great night and more of an event/more important than other elections

IND means independent, i.e they're standalone candidates that belong to no party
I stayed up for the last General Election on a school night and loved it <3

[joeysteele]

Urgh why have they got Grant and Chuka on here, the two biggest party nodding dogs out there

Grant Schapps is not suited at all to his role now for the party, he doesn't come across on anything as convincing.

This I think is going to be a really strange local election,I almost can agree with Chukka Ummunah that we could be in the politics of 4 party politics now.
Although I,for myself anyway, live in hope for the demise further of the Lib Dems.

[MTVN]

Grant Schapps is not suited at all to his role now for the party, he doesn't come across on anything as convincing.

This I think is going to be a really strange local election,I almost can agree with Chukka Ummunah that we could be in the politics of 4 party politics now.
Although I,for myself anyway, live in hope for the demise further of the Lib Dems.

Thing for me is I thought that yes UKIP may do well in Euro and local elections but they won't ever carry that into national elections, but that poll Jeremy Vine showed kinda disputes that how people who voted UKIP tonight are likely to do so again in 2015. I still feel when push comes to shove though that people won't trust them on the national stage especially when their policies come under more scrutiny.

I ended up voting Lib Dem in the local elections here lol, only because I hadn't planned to vote at all but of the parties competing the Lib Dems had done the most in the local area to try and engage with voters and I found their literature more agreeable than the other parties

[joeysteele]

Thing for me is I thought that yes UKIP may do well in Euro and local elections but they won't ever carry that into national elections, but that poll Jeremy Vine showed kinda disputes that how people who voted UKIP tonight are likely to do so again in 2015. I still feel when push comes to shove though that people won't trust them on the national stage especially when their policies come under more scrutiny.

I ended up voting Lib Dem in the local elections here lol, only because I hadn't planned to vote at all but of the parties competing the Lib Dems had done the most in the local area to try and engage with voters and I found their literature more agreeable than the other parties

Actually I was unfair before, the Lib Dems do generally do a good job at local level and I know a good few Lib Dem councillors who are furious with their parliamentary colleagues.

I still think overall,we have had, with good and not so good publicity as to the media, UKIP overkill for the last few weeks.
I also think the announcement of the increase in EU immigration to the UK being announced today will also have played a role in those going out to vote too.

Other than UKIP, these election results could in fact turn out rather poor for all 3 main parties despite what councils those main parties win.

[Jack_]

I think it'll be another hung parliament next year, Labour largest party

I also agree that I'm not sure whether UKIP can translate local/European success onto a national scale. The day they get a seat in the HoC will be a very disconcerting one in British politics

[joeysteele]

I think it'll be another hung parliament next year, Labour largest party

I also agree that I'm not sure whether UKIP can translate local/European success onto a national scale. The day they get a seat in the HoC will be a very disconcerting one in British politics

I agree, I think you have it spot on although I still hold the view too that a 30 overall majority in 2015 is not out of reach for Labour,'IF' they carry out a really good and strong campaign.

[reece(:]

I think it'll be another hung parliament next year, Labour largest party

I also agree that I'm not sure whether UKIP can translate local/European success onto a national scale. The day they get a seat in the HoC will be a very disconcerting one in British politics
how did UKIP do last GE?

and lol at the labour guy slaying that Lynne from the Democrats.

[Kizzy]

God jack I hope you're right :worry:

[MTVN]

I think it will be another hung parliament as well and I again think the Lib Dems could be the king makers which would be interesting. So hard to call right now when the all important swing will likely happen over the next few months

I think UKIP get a couple of seats in Parliament 2015 but will be a long way from being a significant force. In a way that could be the death of them because they'll finally be involved in central politics so can't play the protest vote so strongly and claim they are against the 'Westminster elite' when they are now a part of it

[joeysteele]

God jack I hope you're right :worry:

I think he is Kizzy.

I am aware that UKIP have to get around 25% in a general election just to even pick up a few seats.
That is a tall order.

[Kizzy]

how did UKIP do last GE?

and lol at the labour guy slaying that Lynne from the Democrats.

They were nowhere last time they were a joke party! Like Kilroy Silk and his nutters .... then all of a sudden UKIP are EVERYWHERE!
How?... I don't know! He must have a lot of friends in high places and promised some a huge slice of something for backing that's all I can say.

[reece(:]

They were nowhere last time they were a joke party! Like Kilroy Silk and his nutters .... then all of a sudden UKIP are EVERYWHERE!
How?... I don't know! He must have a lot of friends in high places and promised some a huge slice of something for backing that's all I can say.
I find it absolutely crazy that people have decided to vote these out of spite then, considering all the recent outrage

[reece(:]

no mentions of the Greens :bawling:

[Jack_]

I agree, I think you have it spot on although I still hold the view too that a 30 overall majority in 2015 is not out of reach for Labour,'IF' they carry out a really good and strong campaign.

I do agree also but it's a big if and I don't want to tempt fate :p I've been impressed with Milliband's party conferences the last couple of years, he needs to translate the attitude he displayed there on a more mainstream scale so perhaps during the TV debates

If nothing else I hope there's an increased turnout

how did UKIP do last GE?

and lol at the labour guy slaying that Lynne from the Democrats.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/

3.1% share of the vote which was +0.9% up on 2005

God jack I hope you're right :worry:

I suppose a lot of it also depends on how many candidates they get to stand nationally in constituencies which I hope isn't a lot, as long as they're denied seats I really don't care how 'popular' they are...it's once they get a few that they can start pushing their campaign into overdrive and it'd be a downward spiral going forward

[joeysteele]

They were nowhere last time they were a joke party! Like Kilroy Silk and his nutters .... then all of a sudden UKIP are EVERYWHERE!
How?... I don't know! He must have a lot of friends in high places and promised some a huge slice of something for backing that's all I can say.

I partly blame Nick Clegg for setting up the opportunity for those Euro debates with Nigel Farage, since then all we have had on TV is UKIP really as main political news.

[MTVN]

UKIP were nowhere near in the general election but they were second in the Euro elections 2009 so anti-EU sentiment isnt anything that new and its only increased in the last few years. UKIP are appealing because they're the only largeish party who offers a clear exit option from the EU so it's hard to see them going away any time soon.

[MTVN]

Is that a purple tie Chuka is wearing :think:

[Kizzy]

Oh it just makes me sick how they appeal to the 'homeowners' sitting there bleating about Romanians not bothering to question any of the other questionable ideals they hold.
How 'British' will it be when we all have to get private healthcare as he's flogged the NHS to serco?

[Novo]

What a great night for farage so far +6

[Kizzy]

On yer bike you! :)

[Jack_]

UKIP are popular because they are tapping into media created and perpetuated ideas and fears about immigration and Europe and it's saddening. They're presenting themselves as this protest, 'stick it to the man' party for the working class when actually if the people that are deciding to vote for them did a bit more research they'd realise UKIP policies were going to be anything but beneficial for them...

I mean I know of people/people's parents that are left-wingers/socialists and have voted UKIP, there's loads of people whose politics shouldn't be anywhere near UKIP yet they've been brainwashed into thinking it is

It's just sad

[MTVN]

Doesn't bode hugely well for Labour that Swindon result

[smudgie]

Looks like a late night then.:sleep:

[Jack_]

One thing I will say though is I have noticed a hell of a lot of anti-UKIP sentiment among people my age over the last few weeks and I don't think I've seen a single person say anything positive about them. I've been quite surprised actually, either expected people to be jumping on the bandwagon because they don't really understand politics or just not commenting at all but there's been a lot of negative posts on social media about them and a lot of piss taking in real life too. Refreshing and calming to see

[Kizzy]

That is good to hear, you can't fool the children of the revolution ;)

[MTVN]

Don't think I'll stay up too late for these tonight, more interested in Sunday's EU results

[joeysteele]

Doesn't bode hugely well for Labour that Swindon result

Definitely not a good one and I fear more likely surprises to come, Labour should have taken this one but there was only a single seat change overall.

[Novo]

9!!!!!!!!

[joeysteele]

I think it's already clear that where they are standing, UKIP will do really well tonight unfortunately.

The good thing is that hopefully they don't run any council after all the results and that this maybe does, just a year away from the 2015 election, wake the other parties up to the dangers of underestimating UKIP.

[MTVN]

Bet Vine is skipping his Radio 2 show tomorrow after this, lazy git

[arista]

Bet Vine is skipping his Radio 2 show tomorrow after this, lazy git

So many never do Fridays
anyway

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/22/article-2636838-1E1F3A6C00000578-50_634x762.jpg

Keep Lickin' Honey

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/22/1400791571859/2314ef7d-224e-4264-b9d6-1d4ff529d47d-460x276.jpeg
When you get a minute
put the washing on , Honey

[arista]

What a great night for farage so far +6



[Local elections: UKIP delivers first tremors of political earthquake
Nigel Farage weakens Labour's grip in north as Tories lose control of flagship councils and Lib Dem vote collapses]


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/23/local-election-ukip-nigel-farage-labour-tories-lib-dems

[Nedusa]

It is simple arista, sadly a good number of people look for any reason to say they didn't bother voting and when the weather is unpleasant, that is the main one.
I really doubt we are going to learn a great deal today from these elections.

In the general election, all parties will be getting far more airtime while the run up to these elections today have seen UKIP plastered,good and bad, over the TV screens for weeks.

I expect UKIP will however do very well indeed.
Also if Labour gain more than 200 council seats and the Consersvatives lose same, although that is hardly a great move,it would represent that no way will the Conservatives win the 2015 election on such figures.

Sorry Nedusa,I love your posts and agree a great deal of the time with you as you know but I could never vote UKIP, I am firmly a supporter of the EU even with it's faults and I recall my Grandfather saying to me that in his view the EU was a good thing too,he saw the 2nd world war as a hopefully final means to end wars in Europe for good.
In his view, the EU has helped that process in the joining of Nations together.
A different take on why such wars were fought but for me I cannot support anti EU parties.

I certainly also don't want any referendum on the EU until we are 100% sure of getting the full info as to the EU,(the great benefits from it as well as the unpopular things too,fairly debated and relayed by the media and govt.to us), which could have us sleepwalk out of the EU.

No problem Joey, everyone has their view, I for one have no problem with being in a European trading alliance as we do trade with Europe more than any other country. But I like a large number of people are dismayed at how the Common Market has evolved into a European Federal superstate without any discussion from the British public.

The fact that we the GBP were never ever asked to vote on this sea change to Britains identity is thing that upsets people the most.

To be forced to sit on the touch lines and watch your country give up its sovereignty piece by piece is the reason why, as I type this at 7.30am results are showing massive gains for UKIP in the council elections which are sure to be repeated if not exceeded in the European elections.

What's the point of democracy if your elected leaders exclude the voting public in such a major change to the direction of the future of the United Kingdom, and then rub salt into the wound by stating that normal people do not understand what is best for them.

Is it any wonder that normal working class people are angry at being treated this way for decades and have registered that anger with a protest vote for UKIP.

Hopefully this will finally make the major parties in this country sit up and take notice.

[Nedusa]

I partly blame Nick Clegg for setting up the opportunity for those Euro debates with Nigel Farage, since then all we have had on TV is UKIP really as main political news.

Yes I agree Nick Clegg and LBC radio must take some of the credit in finally getting the message out to the public at large.

[joeysteele]

no mentions of the Greens :bawling:

They have picked up 2 more seats in Bristol, taking their seats to 6.with that council still being no overall control, they could have some effect there.

[joeysteele]

Yes I agree Nick Clegg and LBC radio must take some of the credit in finally getting the message out to the public at large.

No one can moan at the fact Nigel Farage has had the chance to get so much airtime.
I don't dislike him myself, not sure if I can trust him with some of the things he says and what lies beneath what he says.
I don't agree with his immigration talk and as to the EU either.

Overall however, he is,no doubt, having a good night in these elections and I can only see him really doing extremely well now when we learn the European results.

There is little doubt UKIP's vote has brought about some odd results across the Country as to these local elections, Labour's stronger march in the local elections, seems on the surface of these early results to have been slowed by UKIP.
The Conservatives, already starting to panic have some already calling for electoral pacts with UKIP.
That would be a massive error in my view.

My guess is that deep down Nick Clegg regrets ever challenging Nigel Farage to those 2 debates, I also dare bet most Lib Dems are smouldering now with fury at Clegg for doing so.

The thing, is Nigel Farage, got the chance to propel himself and his party into the spotlight, he took that chance and has despite the attacks been able to guide his party to a really good night in these elections.

In politics, seizing the chances when they come are the most vital thing to recognise and do.
The other parties need to look at UKIP and learn that art again and 'stop' taking the voters for granted so much.
Start talking 'to' the voters and not 'at' them.

[Nedusa]

Yes I share your view that Cameron must be fuming at Nick Clegg for inadvertently propelling Nigel Farage and UKIP into the public's consciousness.

In fact I would think he is praying for the day he can bring this woeful coalition Government to an end.

[joeysteele]

Yes I share your view that Cameron must be fuming at Nick Clegg for inadvertently propelling Nigel Farage and UKIP into the public's consciousness.

In fact I would think he is praying for the day he can bring this woeful coalition Government to an end.



I think a great number of voters are near praying for that too Nedusa.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/5/22/310965/default/v2/times-1-329x437.jpg

[joeysteele]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/5/22/310965/default/v2/times-1-329x437.jpg

Well the knives must be out just for cleaning because no way will he be gone before 2015 now,no matter how much a minority may want.

I dare bet more than half at least of Lib Dems would even now like to see Clegg gone before 2015 though.

Also after these results so far, many in the Conservative party must be realising the chances of any kind of an overall majority or even being the largest party in 2015 are not achievable with David Cameron at the helm.

[arista]

Conservatives took Kingston on Thames
from LibDem.


Utter Bliss



SkyNewsHD Live

[Kizzy]

yey!... 'Conservatives have lost four seats on Nuneaton and Bedworth borough council - three to Labour and one to the Greens.'

boo...'And, according to the Press Association, Ukip have won their first seat on Weymouth and Portland council when local party chairman Francis Drake beat the current mayor, Ray Banham, a Lib Dem.'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/may/23/local-election-results-live

[joeysteele]

Conservatives took Kingston on Thames
from LidDem.


Utter Bliss



SkyNewsHD Live

I'd agree with that.

[MTVN]

Is there a rough timetable anywhere of when the results from each region are expected

[MTVN]

Dimbleby back from 11 with the European results tonight

[Jack_]

He's live now on the BBC News Channel also, they join BBC1 at 11

[arista]

Also on SkyNewsHD

[Jack_]

Jeremy's green screen graphics look even more amazing tonight :o

[MTVN]

Why are BBC 1 not starting till 11 if the results start getting revealed from 10 :huh:

[MTVN]

Christ the right really are on the rise, Front National seem to have won in France

[Jack_]

Because of their new drama series and news obligations

[Jack_]

These exit polls are ****ing terrifying

[reece(:]

How longs the results on?

[Jack_]

Till 3am but presumably it'll be extended depending on how long it takes for various results across Europe to come in

[Jack_]

Labour wins the North East region on share of the vote :spin2:

[Jack_]

Green seat plz

[Jack_]

**** sake

[reece(:]

Wait is it on now :worry:

[Jack_]

Has been on the BBC News Channel since 9 :p they join BBC1 at 11

[Vicky.]

Ok on these local election results.why are people saying labour did badly? I thought they gained 300+ seats :shrug:

[MTVN]

Ok on these local election results.why are people saying labour did badly? I thought they gained 300+ seats :shrug:

Just expected to do better than that I think and saw UKIP eat into a lot of their support in their core areas in the north and the midlands. They were always going to have gains but if the local election results replicated themselves in 2015 they'd never get a majority government

[Jack_]

Nick Griffin has lost his seat as an MEP :dance:

This will be the best news of the night

[jackc1806]

Nick Griffin has lost his seat as an MEP :dance:

This will be the best news of the night

Amazing news!

[reece(:]

ewww UKIP 35% :umm2:

[MTVN]

This was about the time that BNP peaked about 5 years ago with that Griffin election and his appearance on Question Time, it's been basically downhill ever since

[reece(:]

How many seats are available?

[MTVN]

How many seats are available?

73

[Jack_]

How many seats are available?

70 in the UK, I think there's about 700 elected to the parliament across Europe though

[reece(:]

Greens better get a few.

[Jack_]

This man makes me sick

[MTVN]

Front National are basically a more successful BNP. Both parties with murky history's where they were unashamedly racist but have tried to moderate themselves to gain more mainstream appeal. The BNP came close to doing it a few years ago but ultimately refused to moderate their message enough to get more widespread support, Front National have been a lot more willing to go back on what they've said and done in the past in order to sweep up more votes

[MTVN]

Christ Grant Shapps looks knackered

[Livia]

Nick Griffin has lost his seat as an MEP :dance:

This will be the best news of the night

That's great news.

[Livia]

Christ Grant Shapps looks knackered

His conscience has been keeping him awake probably.

[MTVN]

His conscience has been keeping him awake probably.

You not a fan of old Grant?

[MTVN]

Nice work from the East Midlands guy messing up the announcement, you had one job

[Jack_]

The returning officer trolling the Tories LOL

[Vicky.]

What an awful night for the libdems :umm2:

[MTVN]

Will Salmond ever lose that chip on his shoulder

[Black Dagger]

So have UKIP definitely won then?

[MTVN]

They're going to

[Jack_]

So have UKIP definitely won then?

There's no real 'winners' of a European election, but if we're talking UK national vote share and number of MEPs elected then yes it looks like they'll have the most

[reece(:]

The returning officer trolling the Tories LOL
:joker::joker:

[Jack_]

Lib Dems lose their seat in the South West and Labour and the Greens take one each :D

[Jack_]

These raw vote figures for UKIP though...450,000 odd...just disgusting

[reece(:]

These raw vote figures for UKIP though...450,000 odd...just disgusting
Sickening :yuk:

Yay for Greens tho.

[MTVN]

Be very embarrassing for the Lib Dems if they don't even get one MEP after boasting about how they have been the face of the pro-EU party and the only ones representing the 'in' supporters

[MTVN]

Welsh announcer is not a fan of the rowdiness

[Jack_]

LOL @ the look that returning office gave the crowd, was the classic teacher 'look'

And that guy who shouted 'out of the EU!!!!!!!!!' shut the **** up you're an embarrassment to society

[michael21]

wtf are you lot watching the parliament channel or something :laugh:

[reece(:]

LOL @ the look that returning office gave the crowd, was the classic teacher 'look'

And that guy who shouted 'out of the EU!!!!!!!!!' shut the **** up you're an embarrassment to society
:clap:

[MTVN]

wtf are you lot watching the parliament channel or something :laugh:

BBC 1, get it on Mikey

[Vicky.]

Apparently a BBC light just fell on Nick Griffin's head..according to twitter

this night just keeps getting better :D

[MTVN]

Isabel Hardman :lovedup:

[michael21]

Isabel Hardman :lovedup:

i just google her and i more than likely would :evilgrin:

[michael21]

i seeing a man standing on a map :fist::fist::fist:

[MTVN]

i just google her and i more than likely would :evilgrin:

Tough luck, I am going to marry her

[michael21]

Tough luck, I am going to marry her

fine but when she out guess what she be doing :dance:

[michael21]

boring

where is isabel

[Shaun]

:amazed: yay we (south west) elected a Green MEP <3

[reece(:]

:amazed: yay we (south west) elected a Green MEP <3
good county :love:

[Shaun]

oh...

greens got (in total) a third of the Labour vote, and a thirteenth of their seats... democracy sucks :(

[MTVN]

The Lib Dems have got one!!!

[Firewire]

bye at this vote

[reece(:]

yay greens got another seat :amazed:

[MTVN]

The good old European elections, when else do you get Jeremy Vine doing an analysis of Estonian politics

[joeysteele]

Interesting results,not sure they tell us that much as to the general election next year but really, although UKIP are topping the poll clearly and strongly, this isn't a bad night for anyone other than the Lib Dems.
Labour should have done better than they are and the Conservatives could have been doing a great deal worse too, not sure what to make of these results really yet.

[MTVN]

Yeah the Tories will be happy enough with how they have done, if they hold on to second they'll be delighted though not sure how London and Scotland will go (Scotland will obviously favour Labour over Tory but dunno how many seats)

[MTVN]

Chop chop with these London results

[Josy]

Probably won't even get the results until Tuesday

[joeysteele]

Chop chop with these London results

Apparantly we may not get then until tomorrow as there is a delay in the counting in Tower Hamlets.
I don't think they have declared the local elction results yet.

[MTVN]

Pfft bloody London, might as well hit the hay then

[Shaun]

looks like UKIP might creep into Scotland then :worry:

[joeysteele]

looks like UKIP might creep into Scotland then :worry:

They are predicted to get one seat if it doesn't go to the SNP.It is it seems a close call.

[Shaun]

london results

conservatives 495k - 22%
green 196k - 9%
labour 807k - 37%
lib dem 148k - 7%
ukip 371k - 17%

MEPs elected
labour - 4
conservative - 2
ukip - 1
green - 1

[arista]

Nigel Farage celebrates a historic victory for UKIP, as his party breaks an electoral record that had stood since 1906.

And
Nick Griffin (BNP) lost his seat on the European Parliament

http://news.sky.com/story/1268952/european-elections-ukip-top-british-polls

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/26/article-2638960-1E36167700000578-840_634x454.jpg

UKIP tops the polls in large parts of the country, pushing Labour into 2nd

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638960/Will-earth-Ukip-confident-triggering-political-earthquake-winning-European-elections-tonight.html#ixzz32naLwGDe

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/5/26/311621/default/v2/guardian-1-329x437.jpg

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/ukip-european-elections-political-earthquake

[Livia]

That's SO typical of the Guardian. The Headline beginning "Far Right..." with a picture of Farage. He is not on the "far right". The National Front are the "far right".

This is one of the reasons we've been unable to have a proper grown-up debate about immigration, ever.

[arista]

That's SO typical of the Guardian. The Headline beginning "Far Right..." with a picture of Farage. He is not on the "far right". The National Front are the "far right".

This is one of the reasons we've been unable to have a proper grown-up debate about immigration, ever.





Yes France has the Far Right
Women le pen

[Livia]

Yes France has the Far Right
Women le pen

Then why not have her picture over the headline? This is typical of the leftie press.