Domestic abuse

[Firewire]

In a hidden camera experiment, two actors portray a couple in the centre of London.

This experiments shows domestic abuse against men and domestic abuse against women, but both receive a different reaction from the public.

Watch what happens:

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Is abuse against women all too common that domestic abuse against men is undermined?

How would you have reacted to this altercation in public in both scenarios, and is your view different now you have seen this video?

[Brother Leon]

I saw a woman being abused once near my home.I told the guy to chill only for her to tell me "not to ****ing get involved".. I still would again though regardless of that fool. Truthfully, Not sure how I would react if it was a man. Would be pretty awkward to get involved and help them, but I definitely wouldn't be laughing like those mugs at least.

[Jords]

That was quite sad... laughing? Really?

[arista]

Yes Typical
Women can attack Men


But Men can not attack Women
they will call the police


So fecking typical

[Ammi]

..that really is quite shocking and it makes you wonder how many guys suffer this but don't say anything because they think they will be in some way ridiculed or not taken seriously...

[Jordan.]

Did Tyrone and Kirsty teach us nothing?

[Marsh.]

Did Tyrone and Kirsty teach us nothing?

That storyline was crap.

[jackc1806]

The perception that men can't get abused by women is ridiculous... It's a disgrace that people were laughing :(

[joeysteele]

..that really is quite shocking and it makes you wonder how many guys suffer this but don't say anything because they think they will be in some way ridiculed or not taken seriously...

I have a feeling we would be amazed at the figures Ammi. Both scenarios of abuse are wrong and neither warrants being belittled and laughed at.

[Scarlett.]

That storyline was crap.

It started off decent, but then...

http://i.imgur.com/yLx2O48.jpg

[Ryan57]

Pissing Fiz getting involved. Stupid bitch can't even talk properly. From Maria and Kirsty, to Fiz. What a step down... hate that stupid bitch.

Anywho, knew there'd be a different reaction to a man getting abused. I'd say something to the woman after she grabs his hair like some mad bitch.

[InOne]

She's a feisty one alright

[Livia]

Women can be horrible... unreasonable, demented, vindictive... I was bullied really badly at school by females. Of course I wouldn't fancy their chances if they tried it these days... But my point is, I don't know why anyone would be shocked that a woman could be a violent abuser.

[MTVN]

It's sad but not that surprising really, I can't really explain why but I know that I'd take it a lot more seriously if it was a man acting that way to his girlfriend than vice versa. I might have said something when she started going really mental on him though, maybe just a little "calm down love", that should do the trick

[InOne]

It's sad but not that surprising really, I can't really explain why but I know that I'd take it a lot more seriously if it was a man acting that way to his girlfriend than vice versa. I might have said something when she started going really mental on him though, maybe just a little "calm down love", that should do the trick

A lot of the time both of them end up turning on you so I just stay out of domestics in public. Leave it to the white knights to sort out.

[Livia]

I've got to question the 40% claim too. Is that in this country? Is it 40% of reported incidents? Is it a guess? What?

[Firewire]

I've got to question the 40% claim too. Is that in this country? Is it 40% of reported incidents? Is it a guess? What?

Not sure where the source is for that, it's a British video so I assume in the UK but I'm not really sure

[Vicky.]

Its disgraceful tbh. Those utter twats just laughing. The problem is this thought that men should just suck it up as they are stronger than women and yadayadayada.

[Livia]

Its disgraceful tbh. Those utter twats just laughing. The problem is this thought that men should just suck it up as they are stronger than women and yadayadayada.

True. And if he'd slapped her back, there'd have been hell on. Those people laughing are a disgrace.

[Vicky.]

True. And if he'd slapped her back, there'd have been hell on. Those people laughing are a disgrace.

I have seen this happen in a bar before when I was at work. This lass was proper punching her boyfriend and he was trying to restrain her, but eventually he must have just got sick and he hit her back...all of a sudden everyone (who was ignoring it before) was on his case. Bouncers threw HIM out and were gunna leave her in.. I got loads of crap that day because I kinda stuck up for him and said if she thinks shes big enough to hit him then shes big enough to get a slap back..didnt go down too well..everyone kicked off at me for 'condoning violence' (?!) and I very nearly got sacked over it :bored:

[jackc1806]

I have seen this happen in a bar before when I was at work. This lass was proper punching her boyfriend and he was trying to restrain her, but eventually he must have just got sick and he hit her back...all of a sudden everyone (who was ignoring it before) was on his case. Bouncers threw HIM out and were gunna leave her in.. I got loads of crap that day because I kinda stuck up for him and said if she thinks shes big enough to hit him then shes big enough to get a slap back..didnt go down too well..everyone kicked off at me for 'condoning violence' (?!) and I very nearly got sacked over it :bored:

How were you condoning violence? That's really odd they said that :nono:

[Livia]

I have seen this happen in a bar before when I was at work. This lass was proper punching her boyfriend and he was trying to restrain her, but eventually he must have just got sick and he hit her back...all of a sudden everyone (who was ignoring it before) was on his case. I got loads of crap that day because I kinda stuck up for him and said if she thinks shes big enough to hit him then shes big enough to get a slap back..didnt go down too well..everyone kicked off at me for 'condoning violence' (?!) and I very nearly got sacked over it :bored:

I'd have been right behind you. How could they accuse you of condoning violence when they'd stood around with their thumb up their arse watching her slap him?! You hit someone, you should expect to take a slap back.

[Vicky.]

How were you condoning violence? That's really odd they said that :nono:

Obviously in their eyes its not violence when a woman hits a man..but it is the other way round..or some rubbish like that :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not hard this

men are stronger than women

they thought is "he could really hurt her and that is wrong" the other thought is "she cant hurt him so there is no need to be worried here"

its normal

[Livia]

Its not hard this

men are stronger than women

they thought is "he could really hurt her and that is wrong" the other thought is "she cant hurt him so there is no need to be worried here"

its normal

It's wrong though. Size is no guarantee of strength, is it.

[MTVN]

You don't necessarily have to be physically weaker than someone to be a victim of their abuse either

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's wrong though. Size is not guarantee of strength, is it.

Looking at both it is unlikely that he was in any danger and that is the innate conclusion that most came too in that situation.

If she had decked him and started to boot his unconscious head then intervention would have been swift

[Livia]

Looking at both it is unlikely that he was in any danger and that is the innate conclusion that most came too in that situation.

If she had decked him and started to boot his unconscious head then intervention would have been swift


It's never right for anyone to put their hands on anyone else, except in self defence. It's quiet sad really that people see attacks on men by women as funny. My thinking would be, if she's not afraid of slapping him around in public, wtf goes on in private?

You're very contrary today Trumpet. Don't make me come up there and sort you out.

[Kizzy]

It's not a good example really, she looks like she'a accusing him of something and overreacting, he looks like he's trying to squirm out of the shiz... I think thats why people are laughing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's never right for anyone to put their hands on anyone else, except in self defence. It's quiet sad really that people see attacks on men by women as funny. My thinking would be, if she's not afraid of slapping him around in public, wtf goes on in private?

You're very contrary today Trumpet. Don't make me come up there and sort you out.

i would never hit a woman, neither would any Scotsman

mainly because we would get battered

:joker:

[Kizzy]

i would never hit a woman, neither would any Scotsman

mainly because we would get battered

:joker:

They would...

Domestic Abuse
Domestic Abuse is perpetrated by a partner or ex-partner and may include physical, mental and/or sexual violence. It is characterised by a pattern of coercive control escalating in frequency and severity over time.

Prevelance figures suggest between one in three and one in five women experiences some form of domestic abuse in the course of their lifetime.

Source: Recommendation (2002) 5 of the Committee of Ministers to member states on the prevention of violence against women, adopted 30 April 2002. Council of Europe.

There were 51,926 incidents of domestic abuse in Scotland recorded by the police in 2009-10. Women are far more likely to be victims than men, with incidents involving a female victim and a male perpetrator representing 82% of reported incidents. Many women never report the abuse to police. This is partly because the abuse may not be physical and may not constitute a 'crime'.

Source: Scottish Government 2010, Statistical Bulletin Crime and Justice Series: Domestic Abuse Recorded by the Police in Scotland.

A Scottish study involving 1,395 young people aged between 14 and 18 found that a third of young men and a sixth of young women thought that using violence in an intimate relationship was acceptable under certain circumstances. The same study found that 17% of young women had experienced violence or abuse in their own relationship with a boyfriend.

Source: M and Cartmel, F (2005) Young People's Attitudes Towards Gendered Violence, Edinburgh: NHS Scotland

The 'Raising the Issue of Domestic Abuse in School' Study revealed that 32% of pupils in one secondary school in Scotland disclosed anonymously that they were currently experiencing or living with domestic abuse.

Source: Alexander, H, Macdonald, E and Paton, S (2005) @Raising the Issue of Domestic Abuse in School', Children and Society, Vol. 19, No. 3, pp187-198
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/People/Equality/violence-women/Key-Facts

[Firewire]

It's not a good example really, she looks like she'a accusing him of something and overreacting, he looks like he's trying to squirm out of the shiz... I think thats why people are laughing.

She literally pushes him into a fence and starts hitting him, how is it not a good example?

[Marsh.]

Looking at both it is unlikely that he was in any danger and that is the innate conclusion that most came too in that situation.

If she had decked him and started to boot his unconscious head then intervention would have been swift

Well it's kind of a bit late if he has to be in an unconscious heap on the floor before anyone intervenes.

All he had to do was grab hold of her chin and everyone swooped in.