To all the people judging Danielle..

[Queen]

I don't think it's fair to jump down her throat just because she doesn't agree with same sex marriage, it's something she was obviously brought up with. She shouldn't be condemned for her beliefs in the same way that homosexual people shouldn't.

[Samm]

I like her but I don't like her views

[Jake.]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251615

[Vanessa]

I just don't agree with her views.

[armand.kay]

I hope she's a messy god warrior.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't think it's fair to jump down her throat just because she doesn't agree with same sex marriage, it's something she was obviously brought up with. She shouldn't be condemned for her beliefs in the same way that homosexual people shouldn't.

lmfao goodbye

[ruiphillips]

She's such a hypocrite. Acting all holier than now, when she does Glamor model. Typical Catholic.

[Doogle]

She's a nasty bitch but I think I'll support her if she's entertaining

[Livia]

We're here to judge her, it's what we do. It's a Big Brother forum and she's a housemate. It's just the way it is. She's entitled to her beliefs, but if she's going to voice them on Big Brother, I'm going to judge her on them.

[Vanessa]

She's such a hypocrite. Acting all holier than now, when she does Glamor model. Typical Catholic.

This!

[Jords]

We can only go on what weve seen so far Queen. If she turns out a pretty nice girl who just has Catholic views, fair enough. However for now she has come across close-minded and self-proud from her VT. Also I think shes a bit hypocritical regarding her views and modelling career.

[smeagol]

dont worry a few weeks in that house with those wimpy guys she will be supping the furry cup by the end of the week

[Shaun]

bit of a difference between beliefs and rights though isn't there

[Jordan.]

idrc, she hasn't even mentioned it

[Lister of Smeg]

Hmm nice jublies nice strong child rearing hips got plenty of potential :evilgrin:

[lily.]

I wonder if she realises the majority of BB fans are gay..

[Vanessa]

I wonder if she realises the majority of BB fans are gay..

:D

[Lister of Smeg]

I wonder if she realises the majority of BB fans are gay..

Bit of a generalization right there :shocked:

[lily.]

Bit of a generalization right there :shocked:

Aye, but it's based on the population of this site.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Shes not even worth talking about.

All talk....Goes straight into the house and pops on her pj's.

[Jack.]

I wonder if she realises the majority of BB fans are gay..

:laugh:

[Lister of Smeg]

Aye, but it's based on the population of this site.

Fair enough :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I think Danielle will be scapegoated tbh, I actually think there will be more offensive people than her in the series but she touched a taboo subject which will cost her any chance of winning.

[InOne]

She's a walking contradiction

[Tom4784]

She doesn't believe that gay people deserve equal rights so she deserves the homophobe label and all the judgement she's going to get. The fact that she's a rampaging hypocrite doesn't help her case.

[Gypsy]

big hips huge ass


i think she will be a good housemate

[joeysteele]

I just don't agree with her views.

That is a problem Vanessa, were I in there,once she made such views known,I would need to avoid her as much as I could or sparks would fly.

[reece(:]

big hips huge ass


i think she will be a good housemate
http://i.minus.com/jEqiTgxifxvtY.jpg

[Cal.]

Aren't they allowed to say negative things about housemates on BOTS? Rylan stopped Gina when she called Danielle homophobic and then stopped Dexter when he made the point on her saying she'd never sell vulgar stories when she sold a story about the size of his willy.

[smudgie]

I am waiting to see what it is she models...she is not exactly model looking material.
Not fussed on her outlook on life either.

[Shaun]

they're trying to cover their asses as much as possible, it's a bit odd really when she's just a BB HM not some executive with a massive legal team ready to sue for libel.

[reece(:]

She doesn't like vulgar people and is a good Christian girl
*exposes secrets on her relationship with Dexter and his peen size with a newspaper*


okkkk

[Jordan.]

She's been the one who's spoke to Matthew most whilst he's stuck in that box so I like her for that

[lily.]

She doesn't have the prettiest face for a 'model' tbh.. I expect she's only a model because of her jugs.

[Razor]

I am just waiting for her to put on a bikini before I can judge her properly.

[Niamh.]

I don't think it's fair to jump down her throat just because she doesn't agree with same sex marriage, it's something she was obviously brought up with. She shouldn't be condemned for her beliefs in the same way that homosexual people shouldn't.

That's if they are her actual views and not something she said to get in the house, because clearly she's a liar when it comes to her views on sex before marriage................Dexter?

[flamingGalah!]

It isn't just her views, she is a hypocrite (typical of most religious types who pick & choose bits from the bible to suit themselves) She apparently models lingerie (really?!?) & sells webcam shows & as for her 'no sex before marriage' rubbish, well she isn't married & has clearly had sex so she is a liar on top of all that too...

But yeah she's a homophobic witch so I can hate her just for that anyway :xyxwave:

[bez87]

I don't think it's fair to jump down her throat just because she doesn't agree with same sex marriage, it's something she was obviously brought up with. She shouldn't be condemned for her beliefs in the same way that homosexual people shouldn't.

well if this article is anything to go by, she likes to switch her religious views and teachings on and off to suit her, which is so wrong

LINK (http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/big-brother/big-brother-2013-dexter-kohs-ex-danielle-mcmahon-says-hes-broke-he-blags-his-way-into-restaurants-hes-useless-with-women/)

[Sophster]

She did mention something about how she wouldn't like it if the female housemates were running around with not many clothes on, and I did shout at the TV "But that's your job!"

[Amy Jade]

Some of the people here making out she's a homophobic bitch just for saying she is against same sex marriage were supporting Jim Davidson a few months ago who has a very spotted past with homophobia (including calling ex BB host names for being gay) so if Danielle is a hypocrite what does that make some people here?

[chuff me dizzy]

Some of the people here making out she's a homophobic bitch just for saying she is against same sex marriage were supporting Jim Davidson a few months ago who has a very spotted past with homophobia (including calling ex BB host names for being gay) so if Danielle is a hypocrite what does that make some people here?

:thumbs:

[Niamh.]

Some of the people here making out she's a homophobic bitch just for saying she is against same sex marriage were supporting Jim Davidson a few months ago who has a very spotted past with homophobia (including calling ex BB host names for being gay) so if Danielle is a hypocrite what does that make some people here?

I never liked Jim either :pipe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

lol, they are not her views, she has been brainwashed as a child by her parents, relations and elders to believe them. In time she will probably have her own views

[chuff me dizzy]

lol, they are not her views, she has been brainwashed as a child by her parents, relations and elders to believe them. In time she will probably have her own views

You can brainwash a child, but when that child turns into an adult they have their own mind

[Tarryn]

lol, they are not her views, she has been brainwashed as a child by her parents, relations and elders to believe them. In time she will probably have her own views

Totally agree.
Maybe her time in BB will help her to see other peoples lives in a different way.
You can't hate her for one episode of BB.
Yes her views are very narrow minded but she is young & maybe her family have shaped the way she thinks.
Give her time.

[aj2463]

Yeah she's totally thrown herself to the slaughter by going in that house

[Crimson Dynamo]

You can brainwash a child, but when that child turns into an adult they have their own mind

It takes time and i would imagine she will be in her 30s before the penny drops. she is only a young girl

[Tarryn]

You can brainwash a child, but when that child turns into an adult they have their own mind

Then you are judging her as harshly as you say she is judging other people.
Some people don't "Grow up" until their 30's or even 40's.
Being in the BB house will give her a chance to mix with other people unlike her.

[flamingGalah!]

Some of the people here making out she's a homophobic bitch just for saying she is against same sex marriage were supporting Jim Davidson a few months ago who has a very spotted past with homophobia (including calling ex BB host names for being gay) so if Danielle is a hypocrite what does that make some people here?

Depends if you actually believe Jim Davidson is homophobic, or if you think he just takes the p*ss out of people, there is a difference...

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I've just said basically the same thing in another thread, I don't agree with her views, but I think she could be very argumentative, so I don't want her evicted to early.

[chuff me dizzy]

I've just said basically the same thing in another thread, I don't agree with her views, but I think she could be very argumentative, so I don't want her evicted to early.

She could be a Mary !! :shocked:

[Strictly Jake]

She reminds me of Rachel rice a little bit?!

[Glenn.]

She's a homophobic hypocrite. She'll be gone next week.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She's a homophobic hypocrite. She'll be gone next week.

Its not her its the Catholic Religion

[Niamh.]

Its not her its the Catholic Religion

She's obviously just a liar, saying stuff for a reaction, she also said she didn't believe in sex before marriage but has also said she's slept with dexter :cat:

[reece(:]

She's a homophobic hypocrite. She'll be gone next week.
She won't be if she's not nominated

[flamingGalah!]

Its not her its the Catholic Religion

But if she picks & chooses from her religion what is/isn't acceptable then she is choosing to be homophobic. She has has had sex before marriage & obviously used contraception otherwise she would have children! Plus her getting her flabby tits (& more) out on webcams doesn't exactly scream 'sweet virgin Catholic girl' does it? Nor does being a "model", though looking at her that is probably a massive lie too... So yeah, hypocrite.

[Glenn.]

Maybe she had a lucky escape with not using contraception. :shrug:

[Loukas]

I disagree with her views however i'll give her the benefit of the doubt and give her a fair chance by watching he for a week or 2

[AnnieK]

But if she picks & chooses from her religion what is/isn't acceptable then she is choosing to be homophobic. She has has had sex before marriage & obviously used contraception otherwise she would have children! Plus her getting her flabby tits (& more) out on webcams doesn't exactly scream 'sweet virgin Catholic girl' does it? Nor does being a "model", though looking at her that is probably a massive lie too... So yeah, hypocrite.

Not necessarily. I agree though she has come across as hypocritical and a liar but I do wonder how much of their VTs should ever be relied on? The production team could tell them what to say to get the biggest reaction in line with their backgrounds / views etc .

[bez87]

Well it seem's like she is like most hardcore religious people, they read between the lines of the bible and make there own stories up to suit them, no sex before marriage and then spills to the papers for some cash about Dexter, how bad he is in bed, so yep she's already done wrong so she's going to hell in her gods eyes, and I'm sorry but wow she is the ugliest model i've ever seen, just think she is a walking contradiction, it depends what day it is for her i think, In no way shape or form does the bible condemn gays, it says love all

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

She reminds me of Rachel rice a little bit?!

This, she also reminds me of my cousin too

[Mystic Mock]

Depends if you actually believe Jim Davidson is homophobic, or if you think he just takes the p*ss out of people, there is a difference...

No Jim Davidson is definitely homophobic.

[flamingGalah!]

No Jim Davidson is definitely homophobic.

In your opinion...

[Mystic Mock]

In your opinion...

No there is an article of Jim Davidson in an interview comparing gay people to paedophiles, I can't remember who posted the link on here again now but he definitely said it.

[Livia]

Some of the people here making out she's a homophobic bitch just for saying she is against same sex marriage were supporting Jim Davidson a few months ago who has a very spotted past with homophobia (including calling ex BB host names for being gay) so if Danielle is a hypocrite what does that make some people here?

If we were here to discuss other forum members this might be a valid post. But we're not. So it isn't.

[letmein]

I don't think it's fair to jump down her throat just because she doesn't agree with same sex marriage, it's something she was obviously brought up with. She shouldn't be condemned for her beliefs in the same way that homosexual people shouldn't.

Oh, just stop.

[letmein]

Its not her its the Catholic Religion

What do you mean it's not her? I forgot that she had a gun pointed at her head forcing her to be a bigot.

[chuff me dizzy]

In your opinion...

And mine

[letmein]

lol, they are not her views, she has been brainwashed as a child by her parents, relations and elders to believe them. In time she will probably have her own views

What an imagination you have.

[Queen]

I can't deal with the stupidity of several users on here

[letmein]

Then you are judging her as harshly as you say she is judging other people.


Yes, we're judging someone harshly for choosing to be a bigot. And...?

[Queen]

Yes, we're judging someone harshly for choosing to be a bigot. And...?

Did she 'choose' to be a a bigot? I don't think so
Obviously she has been taught that same sex marriage is wrong from a very early age

[Roy Mars III]

It's her opinion, and I believe she has every right to have her opinion but obviously given the nature of the show there is nothing wrong with judging her negatively because of it

[Roy Mars III]

Did she 'choose' to be a a bigot? I don't think so
Obviously she has been taught that same sex marriage is wrong from a very early age

so?

[starry]

The VTs are always stupid and biased for some over others. If I back anyone it will have to be about more than whether I agree with every belief they have. Most people's beliefs will be hidden anyway with the miniscule live feed and the inane twitter updates.

[Queen]

so?

So it's ridiculous to say she's a bitch and should be out first just because she has an unpopular opinion. We haven't seen her impose her view on anybody else so I don't understand why people were so quick to attack her

[Roy Mars III]

So it's ridiculous to say she's a bitch and should be out first just because she has an unpopular opinion. We haven't seen her impose her view on anybody else so I don't understand why people were so quick to attack her

I agree and I'm not going to judge anyone based on their opinions if they are said in a nonaggression way , but Big Brother is all about judging people (fairly or unfairly) so I can't fault anyone who does so.

[Crimson Dynamo]

calling people homophobes and then being all self righteous is a bit of a young person internet hobby at the moment

[Kazanne]

So it's ridiculous to say she's a bitch and should be out first just because she has an unpopular opinion. We haven't seen her impose her view on anybody else so I don't understand why people were so quick to attack her

Kind of agree with the fact that we are all entitalled to our opinions whether others like them or not,how dull would it be if we all had the same views,IF that is her view that's up to her and as you said she hasn't imposed that view yet,I see no reason to call her a bitch tbh.

[Turtle]

Danielle has an amazing bum.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm really not looking to get into the gay rights things, but to paraphrase CBB2 goddess Sue Perkins, my prejudice is against people who are prejudiced against me.

[Withano]

I'm Catholic, my family are catholic, I went to a catholic school so all my teachers and friends were catholic and literally none of them are homophobic. She has been brought up wrong and she is a terrible person.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm Catholic, my family are catholic, I went to a catholic school so all my teachers and friends were catholic and literally none of them are homophobic. She has been brought up wrong and she is a terrible person.

Are you saying that the Catholic religion agrees that homosexuality is ok and that its ok that they should get married?


Homosexuality is considered in Catholic Church teaching under two distinct aspects. Homosexuality as an orientation is considered an "objective disorder" because seen as "ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil", but not as sinful. Homosexuality as sexual activity is seen as a "moral disorder"and "homosexual acts" as "contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity."

The Catholic Church believes that marriage can only be between a man and a woman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Roman_Catholicism


So either you are lying or they are?

[Withano]

Are you saying that the Catholic religion agrees that homosexuality is ok and that its ok that they should get married?


Homosexuality is considered in Catholic Church teaching under two distinct aspects. Homosexuality as an orientation is considered an "objective disorder" because seen as "ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil", but not as sinful. Homosexuality as sexual activity is seen as a "moral disorder"and "homosexual acts" as "contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity."

The Catholic Church believes that marriage can only be between a man and a woman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Roman_Catholicism


So either you are lying or they are?

You think I'm lying that I'm Catholic and also not a homophobe and neither are my family? Are you high? I understand that Catholicism is strictly against homosexuality, that's abundantly clear but another thing that is abundantly clear is that the book was written more than 2000 years ago and you'd have to be an immoral disgusting person to follow what that book has to say blindly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You think I'm lying that I'm Catholic and also not a homophobe and neither are my family? Are you high? I understand that Catholicism is strictly against homosexuality, that's abundantly clear but another thing that is abundantly clear is that the book was written more than 2000 years ago and you'd have to be an immoral disgusting person to follow what that book has to say blindly.

Then you're not a practicing catholic, you just say that you are catholic :conf:

its not really the same

The doctrine is quite clear and its clear that you are not a catholic

[Withano]

Then you're not a practicing catholic, you just say that you are catholic :conf:

its not really the same

The doctrine is quite clear and its clear that you are not a catholic

Well by this logic neither is Danielle as women are not allowed to preach therefore she has no excuse to be homophoic and shes just a ****. Terrible argument.

[user104658]

The obvious answer here is that what's being described are "cultural catholics"... People who have been raised Catholic and come from Catholic families and often Catholic school, but who don't actually follow the doctrines of the Catholic Church and only vaguely believe in God (if at all). My dad's side of the family is full of cultural Catholicism.

In truth, if someone is a Catholic who does not think that active homosexuality is sinful and who supports same sex marriage, then they are not a "Catholic" at all. The Bible is very much open to interpretation but, if a person does not agree with the Catholic church's interpretation, then they are by definition something else. They are someone who has created their very own little branch of vague Christianity, membership 1. Until some enterprising individual groups together all of these liberal ex-Catholics into one group United under one new Bible interpretation... And then we get (yet another) whole new church. Hooray!

Tl;Dr - I don't like organised religion (or Danielle)

[flamingGalah!]

Did she 'choose' to be a a bigot? I don't think so
Obviously she has been taught that same sex marriage is wrong from a very early age

Yes.

She has chosen to have sex outside of marriage & I am 99.9% certain that she used contraception too, those are also forbidden by her religion, yet she turns a blind eye to those, as well as for generally being a slut by getting flabby bits out on webcams...

[InOne]

Did she 'choose' to be a a bigot? I don't think so
Obviously she has been taught that same sex marriage is wrong from a very early age

Unless she's lived in a Nunnery all her life then it's clearly her choice. I hope you're not buying this good little girl Catholic act :joker:

[Queen]

Unless she's lived in a Nunnery all her life then it's clearly her choice. I hope you're not buying this good little girl Catholic act :joker:

Not necessarily a nunnery.. just a conservative Catholic family

[Vanessa]

I hate he holier than thou attitude. She doesn't practices what she preaches, from what i saw on BOTS. :nono:

[Shaun]

CBB2 goddess Sue Perkins

finally, a goddess of yours i can get behind :love:

[MrWong]

You think I'm lying that I'm Catholic and also not a homophobe and neither are my family? Are you high? I understand that Catholicism is strictly against homosexuality, that's abundantly clear but another thing that is abundantly clear is that the book was written more than 2000 years ago and you'd have to be an immoral disgusting person to follow what that book has to say blindly.

Obviously not. Plenty of catholics are much the same as you and your family.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/few-british-catholics-agree-with-church-on-abortion-gay-marriage-and-euthan

http://www.brin.ac.uk/figures/attitudes-towards-gay-rights/

:douf:

[Withano]

Obviously not. Plenty of catholics are much the same as you and your family.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/few-british-catholics-agree-with-church-on-abortion-gay-marriage-and-euthan

http://www.brin.ac.uk/figures/attitudes-towards-gay-rights/

:douf:

Thanks! It was probably the weirdest thing anybody has accused me of lying over

[letmein]

She's a bigot. There's no defending that. She's a horrendous person who has chosen to live a life full of hate. She can hide behind that Bible all she wants.

[letmein]

Did she 'choose' to be a a bigot? I don't think so


You're impossible. :sleep:

[Heaven = Winner]

We're here to judge her, it's what we do. It's a Big Brother forum and she's a housemate. It's just the way it is. She's entitled to her beliefs, but if she's going to voice them on Big Brother, I'm going to judge her on them.

Perfect.

[Withano]

We're here to judge her, it's what we do. It's a Big Brother forum and she's a housemate. It's just the way it is. She's entitled to her beliefs, but if she's going to voice them on Big Brother, I'm going to judge her on them.

deffs

[letmein]

It's her opinion, and I believe she has every right to have her opinion but obviously given the nature of the show there is nothing wrong with judging her negatively because of it

There's nothing wrong about judging someone for being a bigot period. It has nothing to do with her being on the show.

Every bigot has their story as to how they became one. It's their choosing. You come of age and decide where you're going to go from there. If you walk around spouting homophobic garbage you're going to be chastised for it. If she can't take that, then it's time for her to either change her views or keep them to herself. Gays and lesbians get enough crap from society, and have so for centuries. We live in the 21st century. We're exposed to just about everything today. Unless she grew up living in a cave, she's been exposed to gay people. She can't claim ignorance. She's also an adult. In five years she'll be 30. Stop talking about her as if she were a little kid.

You're always going to find people on here playing the contrarian just for the sake of it, or you'll find people who just want to see the best in everyone. Sorry, a spade is a spade.

If she said something along the lines of black people shouldn't have the same rights as whites, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

[Colbert-Bump]

What would the Pope say? :nono:

http://bluebird.tv/st/girl.php?id=41

[Marsh.]

What would the Pope say? :nono:

http://bluebird.tv/st/girl.php?id=41

21? :laugh2:

[Marsh.]

finally, a goddess of yours i can get behind :love:

:umm2: I'm not sure Sue is into that.

[Josy]

Name: Imogen

Whats all that about

[Marsh.]

How much is it a minute?

[InOne]

Not necessarily a nunnery.. just a conservative Catholic family

My point was she's not lead a sheltered life therefore she's had a lot of time to form her opinions and make her own choices. Unless she's incredibly stupid and just follows her Religion blindly of course :pipe:


Either way your arguments are weak and I win. Welcome to TiBB :love: